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1 LANDROVER@delphi.com 48Re: Rattles and Rumblings from Sid
2 Spenny@aol.com 25Re: My Wheels
3 dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on51Re: Oil consumption for the 3.9l
4 WILSONHB@ctrvax.Vanderbi21Discovery 5spd
5 JFisk1120@aol.com 19Livestock Hauler Extraordinaire
6 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca24[not specified]
7 Joseph Broach [PC7170@UT13 Manual (hand) Winches
8 David John Place [umplac8Re: What is Happening
9 David John Place [umplac8Re: My Wheels
10 David John Place [umplac10Re: My Wheels
11 David John Place [umplac9Re: Oil consumption for the V8


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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 03:22:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Rattles and Rumblings from Sid

16:16:50.35
 
>      Sorry, I should have been more explicit. The engine is original, but
> has been rebuilt within the last six years, and the whole beast has only
> 106k on it. The noise is most prominent at higher speeds and when

decelleratin> 
> g
> more so than accelerating. It is inaudible as I stated if you keep it
below
> 25-2600. Thanks!!!

Could be timing chain, bearings, valve adjustment, drive train, gawd..who
knows with these things..
Seriously.. Someone posted to TeriAnne about listening with a screwdriver
for the location of the noise. Hard to do if you have to be in motion to
hear it.
So, we narrow it down some more. Park the truck, put the gearbox in
neutral, set the handbrake, start it up, get out and open the bonnet. Rev
it up by moving the accelerator linkage by hand. Get it going about the
same speed as you would be on the highway.. you know, when it sounds like
those little squirrels inside are running thier tails off! Not too long
though, and then let it rev down. Hear the noise?? If yes, see if you can
tell where. If no, then we try something else..
Put the TRANSFER case in neutral. Put the main gearbox in 1st gear, stay in
the truck this time and rev it up a bit and then back off. Try all the gears
in the main gearbox. Got the noise yet?? 
NO?? Something in the drive train maybe.
Drive shaft/U-joints maybe loose or worn. Shut it off, climb underneath and
check the drive shaft to the rear. See if you can wiggle the shaft and see
any play in the U-joints. Probably not, but it's a thought.
I hope this all doesn't sound too simplistic. Maybe you've tried it all.
Maybe not. (Maybe I've been sniffing diesel fumes from my VW too long!!)
Personally, I don't worry too much with rattles. My series III has sounded
like a sewing machine for the past six or seven years. Hasn't got any worse
or better.
Good luck with it..
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:08:53 EDT
Subject: Re: My Wheels

Limestone - 69 IIA 88
in an 88that is the difference betweeen an station wagon and a non-station
wagon, i know the 109 station wagon doesnt havea bulkhead behind the seats,
and obviously  5 doors

also, speaking i the trivial threads, could whoever was keeping track of the
 famous rover owners please re-post i have inadvertently thrown the list away
and still am unable to FTP

Thanks,
Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                                Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA
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1969 IIA SWB Bugeye - The Wayback Machine

Land Rovers on the Information Superhighway!
What will they think of next!

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Subject: Oil consumption for the 3.9l 
From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 13:06:08 -0500

        I forwarded your message off to a longtime TR-8 owner, Rover V8 fanatic
        and friend here in Ottawa.  Below is his response:

        Rgds,

        Dixon

From: dhuddles@charm.gandalf.ca (David Huddleson)
Subject: Re: Oil consumption for the 3.9l
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 14:32:22 -0400
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]

FHYap@aol.com writes:

> How much oil does/should the 3.9l engine consume?  The LR dealer said 1 quart
> per 2000 miles is ususal/not unusual.  Some RR  owners have told me they need
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> no oil consumption between oil change (at 3000 miles).  I would appreciate
> your comments.

Dixon,

In my opinion, based on my TR8 with the 3.5 engine (as you well know!), there
REALLY should not be any oil consumption of significance in "normal" use.
Using high RPM in "racing" or very-hi speed driving would tend to use some
oil, but this is an "old" GM engine... and how many GM V8's use quantities
of oil.

And the only other point is, when the engine is being broken in, we have a
completely different situation... yes, it may use some oil in the first 5000
miles or so.

Adding a quart between regular oil changes... not a problem/concern at all!
Might need one, might not...

Cheers,
David

-- 
dhuddles@gandalf.ca   David J. Huddleson   Gandalf Data Ltd., Nepean, Ontario
                      (613) 723-6500 Days  (613) 822-1315 Otherwise

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dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
Ottawa Valley Land Rovers / FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada

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From: WILSONHB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 13:36:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Discovery 5spd

I have a 94 Discovery 5-spd and have noted the observations with my Disco also.
I have not needed to double-clutch when in low, however.  I'm not sure why
there is so much "slack" in the Disco--a Defender 90 I drove has some also
but not as much.  Probably NVH dampers.  I would regard this as "normal" for
the Disco 5-spd.  It can be ameliorated by watching the revs, since they seem
to drop off quickly between shifts; sometimes I can get a "perfect" shift
doing this, but not terribly often and not as easily as my previous Nissan's
5-speed (3000ZX).   Also, higher engine speeds help; there is less "rubber-
banding" shifting at 4000 (accelerating briskly) than there is shifting at
2000.
Hope this helps.
Henry Wilson 
WILSONHB@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
59 AUSTIN-HEALEY 100-6 BN6
94 Land Rover Discovery

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From: JFisk1120@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:33:48 EDT
Subject: Livestock Hauler Extraordinaire

Received a phone call from my girlfriend....she was stuck in traffic on a
freeway outside of Monterey, California  (on her way to Pebble Beach
Concourse de Elegance....puff puff).....she was next to a red Range Rover
with a miniature horse in the back, head hanging out!

Okay guys,......'fess up.....who was horsing around this afternoon?

Curious in the heartland,
Jan Fisk
Springfield, Missouri

'64 Land Rover Series IIA
'91 Range Rover (I brake for mud puddles....sorry)

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Subject: discovery 
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:42:43 -0500

Today I payed a visit to  a local vehicle and militaria museum in the 
countryside. A number of my friends were there. They all know about my 
love of the Alumninium beast. as the vehicles present were mostly WW 2 
and the like I got a real ribbing as they couldnt understand why I was 
there.

We had only stopped talking for about 3 minutes when a military 109 GS 
still in IR paint rolled into the museum yard. Thank gos for Land Rover 
owners!

As it was one of the few runners around it drew alot of attention. 
Nothing like getting better of people when they make fun of ones 
addiction.

Robin

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Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
Ottawa Valley Land Rovers / FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada

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Date:         Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:21:27 LCL
From: Joseph Broach <PC7170@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Manual (hand) Winches

     Until I decide (aw well, save up enough $) for a primo winch, I need
to get something to pull me out should I become stuck. Does anyone know a
good source for these? I don't care if it's slow, it just needs to be cheap
and geared low enough to pull out Sidney, and most importantly, get me home!
Thanks in advance!!

                              -Rgds,
                               Joseph

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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 22:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: What is Happening

Re Land Rover Names.  Mine is Yabba.  My daughter couldn't say Land Rover
when she was small and always called it Yabba.  My license plate also ends
in YBA--so Yabba.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 22:54:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: My Wheels

I think the colour you really want for factory is called sand.  It matches
the top on most North American Land Rovers that came with a light coloured
top and a second colour on the bottom.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 23:07:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: My Wheels

Dixon is right.  The term I used sand is not correct for the paint colour
on the wheels.  Limestone is and in fact I found a pint chip in our local
body shop file and had the wheels and top done in Limestone when I rebuilt
my unit.  The bottom is in my case called "Hunter Green" I believe.  Dave
VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 22:51:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Oil consumption for the V8

I agree with Daryl.  I have been told and have found myself that Pensoil
didn't burn up between changes while a Texico brand I was using went down
between changes.  I presently use Esso, and on my rebuilt engine with
about 6000 on it, I have yet to use any oil.  Dave VE4PN

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