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| 1 | azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo | 20 | Re: Rust Buster (was new RN toy...) |
| 2 | azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo | 10 | Re: Land Rover Camping |
| 3 | IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.a | 27 | Stars and their Cars |
| 4 | "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak | 26 | Re: mil bits |
| 5 | maloney@wings.attmail.co | 22 | Ralph & Oprah |
| 6 | dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on | 24 | [not specified] |
| 7 | dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on | 135 | [not specified] |
| 8 | "R. Pierce Reid" [70004. | 17 | Elephant Hide |
| 9 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 14 | [not specified] |
| 10 | David John Place [umplac | 17 | Re: Land Rover Camping |
| 11 | Craig Murray [craigp@ocs | 20 | Images |
| 12 | Craig Murray [craigp@ocs | 70 | Re: engine replacement (fwd) |
| 13 | James B Russell [jrussel | 22 | Re: Elephant Hide |
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) Subject: Re: Rust Buster (was new RN toy...) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 14:50:59 UNDEFINED > coming out of the sump? I have plenty of that stuff in my fancy plastic > oil change container. The one where you take your old oil to some > enviromentaly responsible recycler instead of dumping it in the weeds or > in the storm sewer. / / I wouldn't use the stuff from the sump. It isn't the best stuff to / use and probably has all sorts of junk in it. Used oil is sent for / recycling whenever the city allows people to bring it in. NO WAY use teh stuff from the sump. It's full of VERY corrosive combustion products. You'll just make it rust faster!!! Much faster!!!!!! Old gearbox oil is fine ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940824 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) Subject: Re: Land Rover Camping Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 14:54:59 UNDEFINED /* 12v Inverter (to power the Laptop) Anyone know where you can get reasonably priced inverters in teh UK? They seem to be like hen's teeth. ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940824 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 16:59:13 +0000
Subject: Stars and their Cars
OK,
I'd like to maintain a list of 'Stars' that drive LR vehicles, and
what vehicle that is. This is all I've got so far :
Kevin Costner - a black 88 (I, II, III, hybrid?)
Robert Wagner - ?
Robin Williams - 90 Defender, but used to drive an 88 before Mork
Janet Jackson - Dicovery? (Gift from agent or someone)
John Rhys Davies - ? (According to Sandy Grice)
Sting - discovery
Elizabeth Windsor (et al) - Range Rovers, dicoveries and Defenders (numbers?)
Anyone else? (any famous people, from any country....)
----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University.
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Land Rover: A work-horse that was meant to survive the charge of an
adult bull rhino and be field-stripped in the jungle with essentially
a screwdriver and a crescent wrench.
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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:48:16 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: mil bits
In message <m7cHRc5w165w@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca> writes:
> The military spec 110s have a locker just forward of the rear wheel to
> stow a jerry can.
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> --
> Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
> Ottawa Valley Land Rovers / FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada
I have seen one rig set up with a side door and it was ex-RAF. I do not know if
it was an orignial door or if it was home made though. It had two hinges on the
front side the same as a 109 two door utility box. On the rear side of the door
was the same latch as is used to fasten a tail gate.
Iy looked Land Rover, but if you are after authenticity, you might check with
others before searching for the parts or taring appart a 109 pickup.
TeriAnn Wakeman Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com upside down and backwards
LINK: TWAKEMAN
408-974-2344 TR3A - TS75519L,
MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561
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]Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:16:21 -0400 From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney) Subject: Ralph & Oprah I just heard that Ralph Lauren has approached LRNA with the concept of a Ralph Lauren edition Range Rover. Apparently he will not make much off the deal but is doing it out of his passion for Rovers. Woopee! As soon as I finish paying for my new hinge pin kits, Series III grille, and used IIA instrument cluster, I'll start saving my pennies. The same source told me that Oprah owns a Defender. I asked her if she was sure it was a Defender and not a Discovery or Range Rover. She said no it was definately a Defender. Somehow I just can't picture Oprah in a Defender. Hmmm... come to think of it, the Defenders have a much heavier duty suspension than that of the Range Rover or Discovery. Could it be that she needs the extra load carrying capacity? The more I think of it, she probably does drive a Defender. Enough baloney from Maloney maloney@wings.attmail.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940824 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: canvas bags revisited.
From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 10:45:18 -0500
"TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com> writes:
> I hang mine on the grill. I have a lock down post in the center front of the
> bonnet (from Previous owner) that I hang the bag from.
[ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> Hang it in the back and you get a nice coating of dust, what ever the tyres k
> up and whatever oil is leaking.
In front of the rad doensn't seem to make that much of a difference,
but it certainly warm the engine up a bit. Hanging it around the
winch so the bag is just below the bumper seems to work rather well.
Rgds,
Dixon
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dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
Ottawa Valley Land Rovers / FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada
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Subject: engine replacement
From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 10:51:41 -0500
"BENJAMIN G. NEWMAN" <71773.3457@compuserve.com> writes:
> I recently purchased a 1967 109"NADA wagon almost fully restored.After having
> some engine and oil leak problems I was told that my engine was a 1955-59
> Rover car engine.I was told that parts for this engine are almost impossible
> to get and that this engine was the worst Rover made.
Describe the engine. What is the engine serial number?
It has the 6 cylinder engine in there? Here are the specs etc on it.
Land Rover Series IIA : (109 inch models, 1967 - 71)
6-cylinder : 77.8 x 92.1mm 2625cc
compression ratio: 7.8:1
carburettor : SU (Skinners Union)
horsepower : 83bhp (net) at 4,500 rpm
maximum torque : 128 lb ft at 1,500 rpm
Land Rover Series III : (109 inch models, 1971 - 85)
6-cylinder : 77.8 x 92.1mm 2625cc
compression ratio: 7.8:1
carburettor : Zenith - Stromberg
horsepower : 86bhp (net) at 4,500 rpm
maximum torque : 132 lb ft at 1,500 rpm
This is a detuned Rover 110 car engine with modified
water pump and different carburettor for the Land Rover.
This is an excellent engine for towing, and was a smooth
running engine. However...
- Problems: Same as the early 1.6l and 2l engines where
it ate a lot of exhaust valves and suffered the
additional problem of the long aluminium head corroding
or warping.
1955-59 is impossible. the 2l engine was introduced in 1952 for the
80". It was taken out of service and replace in 1958 by the 2.25l
engine which lasted until 1971 when it was replaced by a slightly
different version of the 2.25l. If you do have a 2l engine in there,
parts will be difficult to find, and you might as well get a 2.25l
to go in there. Here is the info in the 2l and 2.25l engines"
Land Rover Series I : (80 inch model, 1952 - 54)
(86 inch model, 1954 - 56)
(107 inch model, 1954 - 58)
(88 inch model, 1956 - 58)
(109 inch model, 1956 - 58)
4-cylinder : 77.8 x 105mm 1997cc
compression ratio: 6.8:1
carburettor : Solex
horsepower : 52bhp (net) at 4,000 rpm
maximum torque : 101 lb ft at 1,500 rpm
- This engine again uses a bypass filter arrangement, with
the 1.6l engine bored out to 2l. Spacing between the 1
& 2 and 3 & 4 cylinders is down to 1/4" which becomes a
problem later in engine life. The original 2l engine
was only used from Sept. 1952 to 1954 and the
introduction of the 86". In 1954 the full flow 2l engine
was introduced, modified baearings but still suffered
from the 1/4 spacing between cylinders. In 1956 the
spacing was corrected with "staggered bores" where the
spacing was increased to 3/8".
Problems with the 1.6l and 2l include camshaft problems
with the followers wearing prematurely, exhaust valves
that didn't last too long, head gaskets are prone to
blowing, and a rear main "thrower" system on the back of
the crankshaft, that after a lot of off-road use, could
lead to oil getting into the clutch, or a lot of wading
could lead to the crank pulling water into the engine.
This last problem was solved on the later 2l engines
which could keep oil in and water out.
Land Rover Series II : (88 inch model, 1958 - 61)
(109 inch model, 1958 - 61)
Series IIA : (88 inch model, 1961 - 71)
(109 inch model, 1961 - 71)
4-cylinder : 90.47 x 88.9mm 2286cc
compression ratio: 7.0:1
carburettor : Solex
horsepower : 70bhp (net) at 4,250 rpm
maximum torque : 124 lb ft at 2,500 rpm
- This engine includes modifications of a stronger water
crankshaft, altered water pump position (because of
cylinder head cooling problems) and modified water pump
and thermostat housings. This engine was so successful,
that it was used up until 1984. In 1980 a 5-bearing
version of this engine was introduced.
Problems: The early 2.25l engines has a cooling problem
that resulted in cracked heads and suffered from
crankshaft knock. Later 2.25l engines solved this
problem.
Land Rover Series III : (88 inch model, 1971 - 85)
Series IIIB : (109 inch model, 1971 - 85)
4-cylinder : 90.47 x 88.9mm 2286cc
compression ratio: 8.0:1
carburettor : Zenith
horsepower : 70bhp (net) at 4,000 rpm
maximum torque : 120 lb ft at 1,500 rpm
> I now want to replace it.
Good idea is it is a 2l engine, though someone might want parts
out of it. I wouldn't ditch it.
> Spoke to Mr. Turner of Turner engine fame from the UK who suggests replacing
> mine with a 4cyl.2.5 re-built by Turner.IF i did this I would like to change
> the rear ratio's to gain more speed [I do little off road work ].I would like
> to hear other's advise and suggestions.Thank
A Turner engine is supposed to be very nice. Not that cheap, but
nice. If you have the cash...
Changing the final drive gear is a whole different story and can be
a bit of work. Why not spend the $$$ and get an overdrive? The
final gear for the standard gearbox is going to be a bit pricy
anyway, and unless you are into changing it, it will be a bit of
work to change. You can put an overdrive in yourself.
Rgds,
Dixon
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dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
Ottawa Valley Land Rovers / FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada
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]Date: 23 Aug 94 18:18:51 EDT From: "R. Pierce Reid" <70004.4011@compuserve.com> Subject: Elephant Hide Folks: Anyone have a source for the original "elephant hide" seats for a Series IIa 88 Land Rover. They are tough to find here in the U.S. I definitely don't want to keep the black Series III seats. I am going to be doing the cosmetic restoration on my 88 in the spring and am trying to line up sources now. Thanks, R. Pierce Reid ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940824 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: locker From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:45:46 -0500 In case you all did not quite understand what I was on about, this is a small locker situated on the SIDE of the vehicle. Rgds Robin -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca Ottawa Valley Land Rovers / FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940824 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 22:22:13 -0500 (CDT) From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA> Subject: Re: Land Rover Camping I don't know about UK, but i am using one you might want to consider. It is good enough to power a VCR and small TV set. How is that for roughing it? Hi Hi. The unit is about 5" square and 1" thick. It has one 115 Volt plug and a 3 foot power cord with lighter socket plug. It is made by Toshiba for their lap top which I use. I think it is great. Dave VE4PN On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Andy Woodward wrote: > /* 12v Inverter (to power the Laptop) > Anyone know where you can get reasonably priced inverters in teh UK? They seem > to be like hen's teeth. none ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940824 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Images
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 15:51:34 EST
Hi all,
Does any-one have any scaned pictures of Landies of any sort! If
possible in xbm format, but other format will do also, as at the moment, I
only have crap that came with the system, and a lotus logo one, and I would
prefer any thing to do with Land Rovers, even if it is a picture of a bolt
that was once on a Land Rover, that's how desperate I am. Series 1 would
xbm picture would be the most extreamly wanted, but any picture.
Thanks in advance!!!
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Craig Murray 1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia 2.25 diesel (Soon!)
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au
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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Re: engine replacement (fwd)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 15:59:17 EST
Dixon Kenner wrote:
[stuff deleted]
> 1955-59 is impossible. the 2l engine was introduced in 1952 for the
> 80". It was taken out of service and replace in 1958 by the 2.25l
[ truncated by lro-digester (was 39 lines)]
> This last problem was solved on the later 2l engines
> which could keep oil in and water out.
[more stuff deleted]
The 80" started production in 1948, all models sold in 1948 were the 48
prototypes that were made, and I am not sure, but I think the 2l was introduced
in 1949 or 1950, and the first 2l were just the 1.6l bored out to 2l, also I
always thought that the 86" was introduced in 1953, and ran till the end of
1956.
You did not menchion any of the diesel engines, so here is what I know,
the 2l diesel was design in 1956, but not available until the 88" was released,
as the diesel needed a shoe horn to be fitted under the bonnet of the 86".
The 2l diesel was the basis for the 2.25 petrol and diesel. The 2l diesel was
replaced in 1961 with the 2.25 diesel, and ran upto the 110, in 1983, when it
was redesigned, don't know much about the 2.25l after 1961 though, except that
sometime in the late 70's to early 80's, they changed how the accelerator was
hooked up, they went for all rods to a cable arrangement, but again I don't
know when, if any-one does could they please tell me, as the 2.25l diesel I am
putting into my 86" has the cable arrangement accelerator.
P.S. Does any-one know how many genuine factory 86" Fire Engines were built,
and how many, if any, were sent out to Australia?
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Craig Murray 1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia 2.25 diesel (Soon!)
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au
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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 23:56:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: James B Russell <jrussell@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Elephant Hide
Rovers North did have the Elephant Hide raw material (I have a yard or so
of it in the back of the vehicle even as I write). Give them a call and
ask them if they still have it. It isn't listed in the catalog. I went
through the same trauma a few years ago and decided the elephant hide was
best. BTW, they may be able to supply complete cushions in elephant
hide. Your choice as to whether new ones or recovering is better.
Jim Russell ==== jrussell@netcom.com
(Seattle -- San Francisco)
On 23 Aug 1994, R. Pierce Reid wrote:
> Folks:
> Anyone have a source for the original "elephant hide" seats for a Series IIa 88
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> Thanks,
> R. Pierce Reid
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