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1 azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo15Help me PLEASE!
2 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu19Re: Help me PLEASE!
3 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu50Taxi!
4 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu15Re: Help me PLEASE!
5 azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo33Re: Taxi!
6 Jules@learnlink.emory.ed29Landie Woes!
7 Jon Humphrey [jh5r+@andr13Re: Landie Woes!
8 Steven M Denis [denis@o20RE: frame lore
9 Steven M Denis [denis@o22Re: Taxi!
10 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca32[not specified]
11 Robertslab[rjrlab@neb.co19[not specified]
12 hiner@mail.utexas.edu (G14Salisbury Axles
13 Steven M Denis [denis@o40Re: Salisbury Axles
14 CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR 32Help me PLEASE!
15 DEBROWN@srp.gov 38Land Rover Discovery purchase decision???
16 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak22muffler location for 109 4 door?
17 Bret Marquis (via RadioM112 wheel rolling road?
18 Steven M Denis [denis@o39Re: muffler location for 109 4 door?
19 Steven M Denis [denis@o37Re: 2 wheel rolling road?
20 llevitt@idcresearch.com 16Re: Taxi!
21 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak36Re: Land Rover Discovery purchase decision???
22 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak40Re: muffler location for 109 4 door?
23 Benjamin Allan Smith [ra14[not specified]
24 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca16[not specified]
25 jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell)10my rover trip


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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Help me PLEASE!
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:05:49 UNDEFINED

On the last tank of deisel my 90 did 35mpg.

Is it broken?

'Worried', of Aberystwyth

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: Help me PLEASE!
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 18:05:12 +0930 (CST)

Worried of Aberystwyth writes: 
> On the last tank of deisel my 90 did 35mpg.
> Is it broken?
none
Not yet.....

Expect to find the engine missing any day.

( On the last tank my stage one V8 did 13.9mpg)  "Wanna Swap????"

'Broke' of Balhannah

P.S. At least it's about the same as the latest 'Cruiser.

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Taxi!
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 9:42:23 BST

Stefan says that London taxi's came fitted with Perkins engines.
In fact,although I'm not saying *none* of them were so fitted,most
used a thing called the BMC 2.2 diesel.This *was* a dog.It had barely
enough power to start the taxi from rest let alone permit any speed
much faster than an arthritic snail could walk.However,despite this,
some of these truly *awful* engines found their way into Land Rovers.
In fact,when I was looking for A Land Rover,some eight years ago now,I
was offered a 1964 SWB soft top,by LRO's very own Mr Ivins(who used to
trade from a village garage about two miles from here).This scruffy
old beast(the Rover,not Mr Ivins)had a BMC 2.2 in it,and such was its
reputation that,desperate though I was getting,I gave it a *very* wide
berth.However,this engine was most definitely *not* a Perkins.
The Rover group currently fit a Perkins engine in the Montego car,
namely the 2 litre Prima which I believe is Japanese designed possibly
Mazda though I'm not certain.It got,I remember,an excellent press when
it was first announced.LRO ran an article some time ago,where someone
had fitted one into a ninety and was well pleased with the result.
I was never quite certain,though,how he had overcome the problems caused
by the fact that the Montego has a transverse engine,and he was using it
in fore and aft mode.
With regard to diesels detiorating(sp) with age,I dont find this is a
problem.My 2.25 was 19 when it dropped a valve and had to have major
surgery.Up until then,altough it *did* smoke,such smoking was not
excessive,it started resonably well and ran smoothly enough.When I
stripped it down,and it is a *very* easy engine to work on,I found
that it still had its original pistons.I had an "in situ" rebore done
fitted a seconhand head,with new valves,guides etc,and it started and
ran first time.The crank miked up exactly to factory spec,even after
all that time,so I could fit standard big end shells.Providing the
injectors are looked after and the distributor pump is timed correctly
excessive pong shouldnt be a nuisance.Admittedly,the rather feeble
sreies wired heater plugs can be a pain,but replacing these with the
Dieselglow parallel wired set at about 25 quid the lot should cure
any potential trouble in this area.And yes,you *do* need a big battery!
The trouble is,I think,that diesels are their own worst enemy,inasmuch
as they have this reputation for reliability and longevity.This makes
people think "its a diesel,it will last forever".It may do,but *not*
without regular attention,any more than any other engine.Given the
sort of maintenance that one would normally afford any engine its
lifespan will easily outstrip its pertol counterpart.
It has another advantage.When driving along,and you can suddenly smell
petrol,relax,its not you!
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Help me PLEASE!
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 9:49:40 BST

> On the last tank of deisel my 90 did 35mpg.
> Is it broken?
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Dear Worried,
Dont panic.But you really *must* stop running it on its sump oil.
It isnt fair to the rest of us.
"Envious" of Loughborough.

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: Taxi!
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 11:43:29 UNDEFINED

>Stefan says that London taxi's came fitted with Perkins engines.
>In fact,although I'm not saying *none* of them were so fitted,most
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>much faster than an arthritic snail could walk.However,despite this,
>some of these truly *awful* engines found their way into Land Rovers.

But the reason these truly awful engines were used is that they'de go twice 
round teh clock with nobbut oil changes. The thing that reassures me most 
about the 2.5 normally aspirated desel (which they dont use anymore.......) 
is that it is put in taxis (Landrover deisels having a bit of  a reputation 
for fragility). Taxis cant afford engines which give trouble before HUGE 
mileage.

>The trouble is,I think,that diesels are their own worst enemy,inasmuch
>as they have this reputation for reliability and longevity.This makes
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>sort of maintenance that one would normally afford any engine its
>lifespan will easily outstrip its pertol counterpart.

Depends on teh design. The deisel used in teh Mazda pickups is very fragile; 
as is the Landie 2.25 - being based on the petrol, and also having detacheable 
ingnition chambers! But somme of teh peugeots and Fords are bulletproof as are 
most marine and commercial deisels.

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From: Jules@learnlink.emory.edu (Sean P. Murphy)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:20:48 EST
Subject: Landie Woes!

     Well, guys, you have managed to truly hook me on the idea of owning a
Land Rover over the past week.  I have gotten piles of mail and advice and
many friendly offers.  I decided to go ahead and get my beast, so I started
clearing space in the driveway and selling some extra parts and parts cars
to get together the money.  Over the past three days, I've been trying to
reach the owner of the one I looked at to make an offer.  Today, I got
ahold of him.  The Rover sold the day after I looked at it for the asking
price of $800.  I'm very depressed now.  I'm without my Rover and I was so
looking forward to delving into the guts of the electrics this weekend. 
Damn damn damn damn DAMN!

     The end result of all of this is that I appreciate everything that you
folks have done and the advice you've given and I'm still in the market. 
If anyone sees any ads or can post anything from their local area or from
catalogs, etc. that you see, please let me know via mail or on the list. 
I'm looking for something preferably on the cheap end and I would *like* a
IIa, although that's not an absolute necessity.  Please let me know what's
out there, I'm going into withdrawal and I haven't even owned one yet!

/========/     Sean Murphy, LearnLink Administrator
 !! !! !!      Internet/Telnet: Jules@learnlink.emory.edu
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Date: Fri,  1 Jul 1994 09:44:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Landie Woes!

Sean,
    Sincerest sympathy and condolences over the loss. Rover withdrawl
can be very painful. 
    Try getting a copy of Hemmings at the B. Daltons. I haven't looked
at this month but there might be something there. But beware it might
add to the depression.
    Again, very sorry about the disappointment
Jon

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:50:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: RE: frame lore

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On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, David John Place wrote:

> I have always used an engine hoist to remove my transmissions, but my
> friend uses a musch simpler set up.  more more more....> 

YA know.....I've always just *heaved* the thing in and out of the chassis....
do you suppose that's why I've got a bad back?....I helps greatly if you
tighten the hand brake adjustment right down so that the drum won't
rotate..makes a *much* better hand hold that way.....

steve...

"HEY, NICE JEEP MISTER!....................."IT'S  NOTAJEEP"!

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Taxi!

 The reason that the rover diesel is not thought to be "bulletproof" is
that *MANY* owners have put it to the test..."BLOODY "ELL! YA won't start
AGAIN *EH*? Well! (reaching for the 30.06) We'll see about *THAT*,dag nab
ya!....."  :-)  :-0

there were days.................

steve.....

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"NICE JEEP MISTER!!..............................IT'S"NOTAJEEP"!

STEVEN M. DENIS                        <denis@oswego.oswego.edu>
PO BOX 61                             1967 109SW (NADA-6,now a "4")
ERIEVILLE,NEW YORK 13061              1957 107SW (no engine yet!)
                                      1964 109reg.(still lives in CAN.)
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Subject: LAND ROVER OWNER Magazine
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 94 08:38:23 -0500

    NEWS  NEWS   NEWS     NEWS

Land Rover Owner and sister magazine International Off Roader have been 
sold to EMAP National Publications of Peterborough.

Richard Thomas will stay on as a consultant for a while as the new editor 
MARTIN HODDER formerly of Popular Classics (another EMAP publication) 
settles into the swing of things.

If you would like to write to Mr HODDER mail should be sent to;-

Martin Hodder, LRO, Bushfield House, Orton Centre, Peterborough, Cambs, 
PE2 5UW.

Personally speaking I think that Richard Thomas, the outgoing editor has 
done a tremendous job or bringing the magazine from obscurity to becoming 
the largest circulation UK 4 X 4 magazine. 

If you have any suggestions as to the direction / content that LRO should 
have then drop Martin a letter and let him know what you think. He is 
looking to hear what is right and what is in need of improvement aswell.

Robin Craig, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:23:38 +0100
From: Robertslab<rjrlab@neb.com>

I think it is very rude to fail to notice one's requests to be removed from
this list.  If anyone is monitoring the activity of this list, would you
kindly remove me from future messages.

unsubscribe lro-stratus

Brian Monks 

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:27:53 -0500
From: hiner@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Hiner)
Subject: Salisbury Axles

What exactly is the story on the Salisbury axles. I know that they were the
heavy duty set up for the Land Rover in the late 60s and early 70s (or at
least I think so). Was this a custom job for Solihull or were these axles
used on other trucks (ie is there anywhere else to look for them). With a
Salisbury is the whole rear axle different or only part of it? Why are they
so much stronger then the stock set up? Any info would be appreciated.

Best-
Greg

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:50:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Salisbury Axles

I add what little I know to the story...I would *love* to be corrected!
The Salisbury was a response to the snapped half shafts on the
109...particularly the ones in military service...the whole set-up is
different.. the rover axle is a removable carrier design...much like light
duty ford trucks here in the states, where the Salisbury is an intergral
carrier type such as used on GM and heavy duty Fords and Dodges..these heavy
duty axles are made by an outside firm,normally"DANA"....the salisbury
*appears* to be a Dana "60" but is not...I do not know who actually makes
the salisbury. The best way to identify the
beast is that it has a removable rear diff. cover....(HEY! I could send it
out to get CHROMED!!!....) to remove the ring,pinion or carrier,one must
disassemble the gear set and remove the parts piece by piece....the whole
axle is bigger and stronger (and HEAVY!!)  they are set up only for the
109's and not the 88's..spring mounts are in the wrong place for an
88...could be cut and moved tho....the comp-safari crowd seems to not use
them due to the great increase in un-sprung weight....
I picked up mine in the UK for under 100 quid(4.7 ratio).....the 109 axle with
the
3.54 ratio was only used in the stage 1 109 and is very rare and the price
reflects that rarity...200-300 quid and more!
110's use a coil sprung version of the salisbury....
fyi...the rear cover is often painted white...this is to reflect the
convoy light mounted on the frame at the rear...you could follow the truck
in front w/o the light being seen from above....unless you get too close
and then you know where the front vehicle is...stuck in the radiator!!!!

steve.......
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STEVEN M. DENIS                        <denis@oswego.oswego.edu>
PO BOX 61                             1967 109SW (NADA-6,now a "4")
ERIEVILLE,NEW YORK 13061              1957 107SW (no engine yet!)
                                      1964 109reg.(still lives in CAN.)
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Date: Fri, 01 Jul 1994 11:17:01 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Help me PLEASE!

Mike Rooth writes:
>Don't panic.  But you really *must* stop running it on its sump oil.

Reminds me of a tale Mike McCaig told at the last Rover outing.  Before
Mike got a job with the Commonwealth, he was farm manager on a 3,000 acre
spread in Goochland County (about a third of which was cultivated) where
they used these behemoth, eight wheel tractors to till the soil.  One of
his lads was plowing a mile-long field down by the James River when the oil
seal on the turbocharger blew.  This huge machine starts accelerating out
of control, consuming engine oil in the process, and these things have
*BIG* sumps.  Even though the operator had the presence of mind to engage
the implements to maximum depth and shut off the fuel, with both feet
firmly applied to the brakes the monster keeps speeding up, spewing copious
clouds of sooty black smoke.  All the chap could do was hang on to this
runaway volcano like grim death - there was no way to bail out - least the
triple-width cultivators grind him into hamburger.  Well, about 50 yards
from trees/river at the end of the field, the machine finally runs out of
oil. Though there was no real damage to the tractor, Mike says that three
hours later the guy was still shaking.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
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Date: Fri, 01 Jul 94 08:08:36 MST
From: DEBROWN@srp.gov
Subject: Land Rover Discovery purchase decision???

FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist
       AM/FM - PAB204 X-3544 - Pager:8800 then 6486
SUBJECT: Land Rover Discovery purchase decision???
Hello all, I'm having quite a quandary over which vehicle to purchase.
My heart and emotions want to get the Discovery, but as I intend to use
it off road quite a lot, I don't want to feel that "fingernails on a
chalk board" feeling when I go through the Arizona (USA) desert full of
cacti and bushes. I'm also considering the Toyota 4-runner, (cheaper,
and can get a used one that's already depreciated). I know the obvious
advantages of the LR (Anti lock brakes, air bags, etc.) but have
concerns about reliability, electrical problems (is it still Lucas, and
are they better than the past years?) parts availability, etc. The 1
thing that I do like about the Toyota is it's reputation for being
trouble free.

Would you "all" please help me with this decision??? Obviously I AM
leaning towards the Discovery, otherwise I'd post this to a Toyota group
(if there is any). Someone please talk some sense into this confused
puppy!!!

Also, does anyone know any dealers in the Southwest United States that
is willing to "deal". As the demand is HIGH for this vehicle, I have a
hunch that they're not going to be willing to deal, making the
difference between the LR and the Toyota even more! (Yeah, I know, you
get what you pay for... Sigh...)

Thanks a LOT!!! I DO appreciate any responses!  debrown@srp.gov

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  *     *  *   *  *   I see things as they never were and say why not?"
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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:51:40 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: muffler location for 109 4 door?

One of my summer projects is going to be putting a rear petrol tank in the back 
of my 109 two door.  I have a new tank, a complete set of new fittings, and a 
filler set up for a 109 heavy duty pickup.  Before I can start fitting the tank 
I am going to have to get the muffler moved.  Where does the muffler normally 
sit in 4 door 109s?  I do not want to put it in the obvious place behind the 
left front seat in front of the rear wheel because i plan to have a water tank 
installed there when I get the chance.

I wonder how far I can get on three tanks?  With two under seattanks, I can get 
from Monterey bay to garberville and have a quarter tank left.  I wonder if I 
can get as far as Salem?

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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Date: Fri, 01 Jul 1994 08:57:44 PDT
From: Bret Marquis (via RadioMail) <bam@radiomail.net>
Subject: 2 wheel rolling road?

I've seen the caution notice in Range Rovers warning about "2 wheel rolling
roads'.

Ok, fine.  But what is a 2 wheel rolling road?

Bret Marquis

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:06:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: muffler location for 109 4 door?

TAA DAA! Station Wagon Man to the rescue!!!!!
The muffler on the sw rides at angle just in front of the rear axle..from
there the pipe goes up and over,PAST the rear tank,and exits behind the
l/r tire...(*through* the mud flap,if ya got 'em)....SOOOOO if you use the
real sw tank, there is enough room for it and the exhaust...it clears
everything nicely...the front pipe is the same as the 109 2 dr...it will
pass directly under the l\f tank....hhmmmmmmmm.I did not place a tank
there as i was more concerened with safety than range...is california such
a wilderness that ya cant get gas???? *I* need to get out and take a break
every couple-o-states...the fuel gauge gives me a reason to stop *before*
"rigor-rover" settles in....anyway,you need the centre pipe and the
muffler/tail pipe..and the hangers will be in the wrong place,of course....
btw...there is a rear tank that is narrower to allow the passasge of the
driveshaft for the rear PTO......You might think about using jerry cans
instead...if you would only need the range once in a while, this is a lot
of work and expense and complication just to say"I can drive 1000 miles
between fill ups...."....I use an electric pump to pump the contents of
the reserve tank into the main tank..12 into 19 gal....this prevents all
the fuel line and gauge complication....gotta make sure that switch *never*
get switched on with the rear tank full!.......mega-fire hazzard....I
thought of using the sender from a diesel,with the low fuel contact, to
act as an interlock on the pump switch...never got around to it...you know
how *that* works......<sigh>

steve.....

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STEVEN M. DENIS                        <denis@oswego.oswego.edu>
PO BOX 61                             1967 109SW (NADA-6,now a "4")
ERIEVILLE,NEW YORK 13061              1957 107SW (no engine yet!)
                                      1964 109reg.(still lives in CAN.)
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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:28:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: 2 wheel rolling road?

Well,ya see this is the "Joey Chittwood Thrill Show",where they get the
car up to speed and go up a ramp with just the left wheels and the car
hurtles down the road with the door handles scraping pavement....not hte
type of thing ya want to do with a Rangey....
Really, the rolling road is a set of rollers mounted in the floor that are
used to measure brake efectiveness on vehicles for the MOT. (a similar set
up is known as a chassis dynomometer and is used to do performance tests
on the engine and driveline)....anyway, the"problem"with the late model
range rovers is in the viscous coupling for the front and rear
driveshafts...the land rover could uncouple the front and rear axle by
slecting 2wd (high range only) the early range rovers automaticly
uncoupled the axles through the center differential(if "unlocked")...with
the new range rovers the drive is truly full time to front and rear,and
if you drive one end ,the other end is gonna turn!...so if you put the
front wheels on the rollers and start the test, the rear wheels will shove
ya right off the rollers and into the Jag parked in front of them....OOOOOO!
(this is thought to be bad manners....)

I have no idea how they check the brakes on these vehicles...must have a
set of movable rollers for the rear wheels and I guess they discount the
braking effect from the rear wheels on the drive line..

now you know....(I hope)
steve....
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STEVEN M. DENIS                        <denis@oswego.oswego.edu>
PO BOX 61                             1967 109SW (NADA-6,now a "4")
ERIEVILLE,NEW YORK 13061              1957 107SW (no engine yet!)
                                      1964 109reg.(still lives in CAN.)
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From: llevitt@idcresearch.com
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 94 14:45:01 EST
Subject: Re: Taxi!

Mike Rooth writes:

> It has another advantage.When driving along,and you can suddenly smell
> petrol,relax,its not you!

Well it indeed may be you, but it most certainly isn't your Landie...

;-)

Lee

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:18:36 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Land Rover Discovery purchase decision???

In message <199407011528.LAA00702@transfer.stratus.com>  writes:
> FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
>        Computer Graphics Specialist
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> thing that I do like about the Toyota is it's reputation for being
> trouble free.

Thank you but in the 15 year I have owned my Land Rover, I have had one bulb and
one flasher unit burn out.  Thats it for my Lucas electrical system.  Neither of
those parts were Lucas.

My Land Rover has always gotten me home (except for the time I ran out of gas 
and there was no open gas station).  I can get any part on my Land Rover 
overnight UPS.  In my not so humble chalvinistic opinion, the Tyota is not even 
in the running as a viable Lnad Rover alternative.0

> Also, does anyone know any dealers in the Southwest United States that
> is willing to "deal". As the demand is HIGH for this vehicle, I have a
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> difference between the LR and the Toyota even more! (Yeah, I know, you
> get what you pay for... Sigh...)

Have you EVER heard of any dealer of any Marque & model discount a car that 
sells faster then they can get them in?  Early Miata buyers paid a couple 
thousand over list for the privilige of getting one.

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:42:30 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: muffler location for 109 4 door?

Gee THANKS station wagon man!

Sometimes it is that far between gas stations in the high desert, but mostly its
that far between  cheaper gas stations (My ansestor's Scottish blood showing 
through here).  The farther you head into the country, generally the more 
expensive the gas is.  I should be able to save about $20 on a trip with the 
third tank.  Petrol is 10 to 15 cents per gallen more expensive near my house 
then in the big city I work in.  When you really get away from population 
centers, petrol can be up to 50 cents a gallon more expensive.  If I can fill up
in Oregon where the gas taxes are less, I would like to make it all the way home
without having to hit one of those expensive out in the boonies stations.

I have a 3 way valve on the front of my seat box to switch tanks and only one 
has a guage on it.  I just make a point of using the guaged tank last.

Seems to me like your aux. fuel pump & shifting gas from one tank to another is 
awfully complicated.  I have one 3 way valve.  A hose running from each tank to 
the valve, and one from the valve to the stock fuel pump.  By using the tank 
with the guage last, i do not need to deal with changing the guages.  When I 
start to feel the engine miss, I reach down & switch tanks.  A couple of coughs 
later & back to speed.

Rover made (makes?) an axillary tank that fits under the left seat over the 
exhaust pipe.  They evidently thought it was safe.  Mine came with this tank.  
It leaked and I converted to a stock under seat tank with external filler.  My 
exhaust pipe does have a heat shield on it where it passes under the petrol 
tank.

Thanks again,

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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Subject: So far so good....
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 1994 14:29:37 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu>

	I made it to Seattle with out a hitch.  The Rover's running
grate. The Rover will even maintain 65 mph up slight hills and 50 to 55 mph
on all but the steepest despite the load and increased wind resistance of a 
full roof rack. The only thing that I don't like is too much weight in the
roof rack make me nervous when I go around tight bends.

 
-Benjamin Smith
 ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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Subject: diffs
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 94 22:40:10 -0500

OK, I think it was Steve who up the piece on differentials, correct about 
painting the rear ones white. If you look closely you might have noticed 
that some front ones are now also painted white. Explain pls!

rgds

Robin Craig Ottawa Ontario Canada

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Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 94 01:11:46 EDT
From: jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell)
Subject: my rover trip

leaving boston tomorrow. all of my possessions are in or on the rover (can
you say too much on the roof rack). first stop is rochester ny, to say
hello to the parental units.

-jory

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