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1 "Keith Coman" [BAKC@gira44 Re: muffler location for 109 4 door?
2 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn41Re: Land Rover Advice?
3 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca29[not specified]


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From: "Keith Coman" <BAKC@giraffe.ru.ac.za>
Date:          Sat, 2 Jul 1994 10:17:44 GMT+0200
Subject:       Re: muffler location for 109 4 door?

> I am going to have to get the muffler moved.  Where does the muffler normally 
> sit in 4 door 109s?  I do not want to put it in the obvious place behind the 
> left front seat in front of the rear wheel because i plan to have a water tank 
> installed there when I get the chance.

    If yr going to go the whole hog and install all of these *very 
desirable* Landie additions, you might plan in terms of a custom 
exhaust system.  Take a sheet of graph paper and plot a scale figure 
of yr Landie's underside with all the addos installed, then work out a
exhaust system flow that gives you the clearance and aesthetics that 
you want -- i.e. plan the exhaust system around the mods.  Any 
competent exhaust outfit should be able to fix you up.
    FWIW a popular system here in South Africa is to either make the 
system very short and have the tailpipe emerging from under the 
lefthand side about 1' aft of the front seat (this is very similar 
to the common "hotrod" layout, I imagine), or to simply make it 
as straight as possible down the left hand side with the muffler box
cobbled inside the frame area under the left-rear door area.  The 
overall design philosophy is to (a) get as much of a "free-flow" 
effect as possible (b) minimise kinks and bends that might retain mud 
and (worse) dry grass, (c) keep it simple in case you need to get it 
welded up in some bush-garage.
    Obviously all the above might be totally spurious if California 
traffic\vehicle regulations say otherwise.

> I wonder how far I can get on three tanks?  With two under 
seattanks, I can get 
> from Monterey bay to garberville and have a quarter tank left.  I wonder if I 
> can get as far as Salem?

    Total fuel capacity minus safe reserve (say 15%) divided by 
average fuel consumption for planned driving conditions should equal 
range.
    BTW, don't forget the genuine 1940's-1970's British Army jerry-
cans full of petrol and water --- pretty mandatory for *serious* 
safaris!!  (:D)!!
KRC * Dept of Management, Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa *
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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 02:11:12 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Land Rover Advice?

Without an overdrive, you're probably gonna travel along at 50-55 mph on 
the freeway (unless you're going uphill.)  If you put in an overdrive, you 
can do around 70 mph comfortably.  Of course, if you're going downhill in a 
tornado, you may be able to get a rover without an overdrive up to 60 or 
even 65.  

They're not the most comfortable vehicles in the world, but they are 
totally cool.  My brother the lifeguard/professional student is thinking of 
selling his '74 camaro and buying a Land Rover partly because he thinks the 
Rover would be better for picking up girls.  

Rust on the frame is not a good thing.  Depending on how bad it is, it 
could mean you'll need a new frame very quickly.  If the vehicle's not 
running now, don't pay too much.  Also keep in mind that there are probably 
going to be a lot of little problems that you'll run into before everything 
gets smoothed out.  ("Previous owner" is generally synonomous with 
"nitwit")

If you don't know about working on cars, you soon will.  Get used to the 
smell of 90wt gear oil -- it will be with you all your days.  I own two 
Land Rovers, and can't imagine not owning at least one.  Warning:  Once you 
become a Land Rover Owner, you can never go back.  

You might want to find out if there are any members of the Land Rover 
Owner's Association (LROA) in your area who could take a look at it and 
offer moral support.

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Uncle Roger                              "There is pleasure pure in being 
mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                     that none but madmen 
know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Subject: review rovers
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 94 20:56:03 -0500

The June 27 issue of soldier magazine, the publication of the british 
army has a number of pictures of review vehicles in it.

Page 5 has a berlin based RR of the early type with berlin Brigade 
registration shown with HRH Prince Charles reviewing the troops. Page 17 
shows HRH QE 2 in an un registered new RR, the newest oone in the fleet i 
beleive on the beach at Arromanches reviewing the veterans during the D 
Day ceremonies.

Page 26 has a 109 ser 3 review vehicle being used by HRH Prince Charles 
to review the troops of the Army Air Corps. Finally the rear cover has 
HRH Prince Philip reviewing veterans at Netley in Hampshire from an RR, 
very possibly the same one as on p 17.

Not bad for a 52 magazine to have 8% Land Rover product coverage by 
pages.

Rgds

Robin Craig, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada

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