Re: LRO: Air Compressors

From: Hope Peter (hope_peter@bah.com)
Date: Thu Apr 19 2001 - 10:50:07 EDT

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    Probably, unless you shut off the other stuff on that circuit. Seems the
    surge/spike comes when the compressor first kicks on. If I forget and plug
    my compressor into the same circuit as my radio, desk lamp and fan, it pops
    as soon as I turn the AC on.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "RON WARD" <ronward@synovustrust.com>
    To: <lro@works.team.net>
    Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:20 AM
    Subject: Re: LRO: Air Compressors

    > I'd planned to run 220 out to my garage if necessary. Right now I run a
    'frig, and some lights off the residential 110v service from the house. I
    suppose a compressor, even wimpy, would draw enough on the 110v to throw a
    breaker inside the house. Is this true?
    >
    > >>> konacoffee2@hotmail.com 04/19/01 02:07PM >>>
    > We have horse power and we have horse power. The old line manufactures
    have
    > a very conservative way of measuring horsepower. 2 horsepower on a Quincy
    > or Ingersoll Rand are very close to the 5hp compressors advertised by
    Sears,
    > Coleman, Devilbiss, etc. Check the amperage draw not the horsepower.
    That
    > will tell you what the output really is. As a for instance, believe
    Quincy
    > makes a nice 2hp 20 gallon portable unit that has the same amperage draw
    as
    > the 5hp Sears compressors. Another plus of the Quincy is its a really
    cool
    > maroon color and runs very quiet. My old home quality Ingersoll
    compressor
    > was a 2hp and worked very well for my use. Even though it was rated at
    2hp
    > by IR, it looked uncannily like the 5hp DeVilbiss, etc.
    >
    > If you are buying a home quality compressor from a retail outlet, look for
    > at least 5 hp. The larger the tank, the better but at least 20 gallons.
    Do
    > not buy the oil less compressors because they are very very noisy.
    >
    > The compressors from the big guys like IR are really nice and really
    > expensive. Their smallest compressors typically start at around $800.
    Not
    > only are the compressor pumps and motors heavy duty, but the tanks are
    > better, also. They also require at least 20 amps and possibly 30 amps at
    > 220volts. Does your garage have the juice to power one of these
    compressors
    >
    > Do you need all that fire power in a compressor for occasional home use.
    > Probably not unless you are going to do a lot of sand blasting or other
    use
    > that requires the pump to be on continuously. I compromised on a $400
    > Coleman 6.5hp, 15 amp, 220v, 60 gallon tank compressor. Doesn't cycle as
    > much as a smaller tank compressor and has the pressure to power all but
    the
    > most hungry of power tools. Another plus is its stationary. Don't have
    to
    > worry about friends wanting to borrow it.
    >
    > Last but not least. The home compressors don't have a super high quality
    > tank. There have been a few reports of rusting out from the inside on
    > compressors that have not had the air bled off, when not in use. Release
    > the air pressure after each use. It also drains moisture in the tank and
    > should greatly extend the tank's life. I replaced the PITA pet cock with
    a
    > street elbow a short length of pipe (nipple) and a ball check valve to
    make
    > releasing the pressure very easy. From experience, found that getting
    down
    > on my hands and knees and groping under the tank to find the valve, then
    > trying to remember which way it had to be turned to release pressure,
    always
    > going the wrong way, bruising my fingers in the process, didn't encourage
    > releasing the pressure on a daily basis. The street elbow and nipple also
    > act as a reservoir so small amounts of water doesn't pool at the bottom of
    > the tank.
    >
    > Aloha
    > Peter
    >
    >
    > >From: "Hope Peter" <hope_peter@bah.com>
    > >Reply-To: lro@works.team.net
    > >To: <lro@Works.Team.Net>
    > >Subject: Re: LRO: Air Compressors
    > >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:07:38 -1000
    > >
    > > > Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > It's not like I have a wimpy compressor either - 1.5 Hp running on
    220
    > >is
    > > > > more than adequate.
    > > > ajr
    > > > Sorry AJR 1.5hp isn't even as good as wimpy. Wimpy starts at 2.5hp.
    This
    > > > probably why you have never come to love airtools.
    > > > John and Muddy
    > >
    > >Have to agree with that.
    > >I am not saying that you need a 10hp cast pump mounted on a 120 gallon
    > >tank,
    > >but 1.5 sounds like a pancake compressor used by roofers.
    > >
    > >For a home shop I would recommend 5hp minimum and a 60 gallon tank.
    > >Shooting paint, using a sand blaster, or running a die grinder or sander
    > >will suck down air very fast, but for a hobbiest the above size will work
    > >well. I only spray small bits and panels at the house, use the downdraft
    > >paint booth over at Hickham for bigger jobs. Anyway I have a 6hp pump,
    but
    > >only a 40 gal tank and it works, and it's on wheels. But I plan on
    getting
    > >a bigger tank in the furture.
    > >Pete
    > >
    >
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