Re: LRO: RE: Re: special tool

From: Jim Hall (jimfoo@qwest.net)
Date: Wed Apr 18 2001 - 23:19:48 EDT

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    Well, the "castellations"? if they can be called that, are horizontal,
    not vertical like on the normal castellated nut. So no, there is no
    hole for a pin as it would do no good.

    Mark Sullivan wrote:
    >
    > Yes castellated is the correct term ,they resemble an "old english castle
    > tower" with the up and down stonework where olde archers used to fire and
    > hide. normally used when a pin is inserted through the up and down section
    > to "lock the nut on. Boy I bet that sounds confusing however they do work
    > but is there a hole in the main shaft to put the pin thru ?? As allready
    > noted it is an odd shaped nut (normally larger than standard ) which allows
    > amateur mechanics to tighten down a bit more without rounding the flats of
    > the nut ???
    >
    > Mark Sullivan
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Faure, Marin [mailto:Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2001 10:26 AM
    > To: 'Land Rover Mail Group'
    > Subject: LRO: Re: special tool
    >
    > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 01 16:06:44 -0700
    > From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
    > Subject: RE: LRO: Re: special tool
    >
    > >>whatsa big deal? Do like I did and get thee to the hardware store or yer
    >
    > >junque pile and get a 12 inch chunk of 1/4 inch square mild steel. That
    > >and a hammer or rock, and its a done deal. Torque be damned, tighten the
    >
    > >thing as tight as you can get it.
    >
    > >Oh, OK. This level of repair seems all too common with series Land Rover
    > owners. People take REAL pride in NOT doing things correctly. I sure
    > wish people would quit complaining about how unreliable series Land
    > Rovers are. It's not the car's fault.
    >
    > The problem seems to be that Land Rover used a bizzaro nut on the end
    > of the mainshaft on some vehicles. In a correspondence with someone
    > off-list,
    > I mentioned that my mainshaft had on it from the factory a regular hex-type
    > nut, and
    > this is what is illustrated in my Land Rover factory service manual. But
    > many of you seem to have some sort of castleated thingy that normal
    > tools won't fit. (is that a word, "castleated?") Anyway, this obviously
    > explains why I had no trouble with the rear nut, as it's a standard
    > hex nut size and a normal socket for that size fits on it. I don't know
    > if Land Rover wised up and decided to put a normal nut on the thing after
    > such-and-such a year, or if they ran out of the bizzaro nuts and had to
    > resort
    > to a normal nut on the day they made mine. But on mine, the instructions
    > simply say tighten down fully and bend two tabs of the washer up against
    > two sides of the hex nut.
    >
    > My point is, if the threads on the back end of the output shaft are of a
    > standard
    > number and pitch (I realize they may not be), why not simply get rid of the
    > stupid
    > castleated thing an put on a normal nut? Making a washer with tabs to bend
    > up
    > against two sides of the hex nut should be easy enough, or the stock washer
    > for the bizzaro nut might work fine with a hex nut. I don't know because
    > one of the
    > the lock washers that came with my first Fairey overdrive was built to fold
    > up against a hex
    > nut (so I guess Land Rover must have used hex nuts enough that Fairey
    > realized
    > they could be in there).
    >
    > I agree with TeriAnn that using the wrong tool can end up costing you more
    > money
    > than if you'd gone out and bought or rented the right tool to start with. Or
    > you may not
    > install something properly, which comes back to bite you later on. But in
    > the case
    > of this transmission nut issue, I wonder if there's a way to make the
    > problem go
    > away altogether by simply switching to a nut that doesn't require a special
    > tool
    > (or a bar and a rock).
    > ___________________________
    > C. Marin Faure
    > (original owner)
    > 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
    > 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
    > Seattle

    -- 
    Jim Hall
    1966 88" Elephant Chaser
    http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
    "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
    with Jim." Mitch Stockdale
    



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