Marin--
I definitely agree with you that the list has been listing one
direction. Personally, I like your memos well enough and I appreciate
your comments. I certainly don't read everything anymore, most of the
titles don't seem to be worthwhile. There are plenty of folks still
interested in maintaining not mangling. Hey, and piss on 'em if their
pants are a little tight.
C
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lro@works.team.net [mailto:owner-lro@works.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Faure, Marin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:06 PM
> To: 'Land Rover Mail Group'
> Subject: LRO: Re: Marin Faure
>
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:14:52 -0500
> From: "cde3" <cde3@mindspring.com>
> Subject: LRO: RE: Marin Faure
>
> >If you are bored (as I am) or offended by Marin Faure's
> e-mails, do what I
> do. Have all of them directly deposited into their own
> folder which goes
> directly into the recycle bin.
>
> Sounds like a good solution. I'm sorry if I've offended
> anyone on the
> list as that wasn't my intention. But the subject of what's
> a Land Rover
> and what isn't escalated to the point where it became more an
> exercise
> in semantics than a useful discussion, and I'm certainly
> largely to blame
> for that. The stuff on youth was an entertaining (but not to
> everyone,
> I guess) sideline, but that, too, got out of hand, for which
> I, again,
> was largely responsible. So I'm sorry for getting people
> wrapped around
> the axle on what didn't seem to me to be very big deals.
>
> When I started participating in this list a few years ago, it
> seemed to
> be largely made up of people who were interested in keeping
> their Series
> Land Rovers running more or less in original form. As this
> is what I am
> interested in, too, and is what I've been doing for almost
> three decades
> now, I found the list a useful exchange of information. The
> list has changed
> dramatically over the last year or so, to the point where it
> now seems to be made up
> mostly of people who are interested in modifying their Land
> Rovers to suit their
> purposes. That's okay, of course. But with a dwindling
> interest in the marque
> as built, I suppose it's natural for someone who is
> interested in the vehicles as
> they were designed to express some frustration. Judging by
> the reaction of the
> "new" list membership, I guess I went too far in expressing
> that frustration. So
> I'm sorry for upsetting so many of you.
>
> Those of us in the US who bought Land Rovers back in the "old
> days" of the
> '60s and '70s got used to being almost totally self-reliant
> outside of finding a
> parts source. There was no internet, no mailing list, and
> pretty much no
> communication between people who had Land Rovers unless you happened
> to live near someone who had one. For help, you called the
> few people who
> were selling parts back then or a Land Rover representative.
> Of course the
> Land Rover reps were gone after 1974. Those of us who ran
> Land Rovers
> back then (and there were a fair amount of folks who did; I'm
> certainly not some
> sort of rare breed in that respect) learned a lot about the
> vehicles in the course of
> keeping them going day after day. That's useful information
> to someone with a
> stock Land Rover, but that knowledge is of dwindling value
> today, at least in the
> US.
>
> I understand the Toyota FJ40 folks are undergoing the same
> shift, from
> driving and maintaining the vehicles as built to heavily
> modifying them to
> suit the owners' needs or desires. I'm sorry to see the same
> thing happening
> to Land Rovers, but I guess it's inevitable as parts become
> harder to get and
> people try to make a forty-year old design cope with today's
> traffic conditions.
> I can certainly understand the frustration of trying to drive
> a stock Land Rover
> in traffic today, as I am in that boat myself.
>
> I will continue to maintain my Series as-built, and if I see
> a question on the list
> that I think I can help answer, I'll do so. I'm not
> reversing my opinion on what's
> a Land Rover and what's a hybrid, but it's certainly not
> productive to argue a
> point that has no meaning or importance anymore for most Land
> Rover owners.
> ___________________________
> C. Marin Faure
> (original owner)
> 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
> 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
> Seattle
>
>
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