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From: David Wan <davidwan@vk.com.au>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:56:07 -0700
Subject: Discovery Knocking noise

Hello All

I have a Land Rover Discovery 1995 model.

I regularly get a knocking noise from under the Discovery 
when takening off, even just driving straight taken off from the 
traffic lights.

Although this seems to go away for few weeks if I bring it into 
Rover for service. Could it be some bushes or suspension become
loose during normal city driving..????

Which parts should I check to tighten up..???

Regards
David Wan

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:24:50 EDT
Subject: Re:  Discovery Knocking noise

In a message dated 8/28/98 8:11:41 AM, you wrote:

<<I regularly get a knocking noise from under the Discovery 
when takening off, even just driving straight taken off from the 
traffic lights.

Although this seems to go away for few weeks if I bring it into 
Rover for service. >>

Sounds like a case of "Post-Warranty-Knocking-Syndrome"... bring it in every
three to four weeks for some periodic cash outlay.

Any less-vague descriptions of where the knocking noise comes from? Is your
disco a V8, automatic or otherwise?

It could be one of those Rubber-U-Joints that LR tried in the drive shafts of
Discos of around that time. They've since gone back to normal U-Joints...

--pat.

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From: bcw6@cornell.edu
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:50:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Transmission problems

Driving along yesterday and suddenly couldn't engage 3rd or 4th(SIII 
trans.) No noise or evidence to suggest any internal damage, just a total 
unwillingness to reach 3rd or 4th. I took the tunnel off and examined the 
linkage, everything was aligned right and seemed to work. after a lot of 
fiddling I got it to work by trying to engage third while cranking the 
starter, but the shift from 3rd to 4th now feels very 
notchy. It seems to run OK, but I am worried this will happen again. I 
don't think the problem is in the linkage or selector shafts, but I could 
be wrong. anyone run into this before? 

thanks,

Braman

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:18:29 -0500
Subject: Rancho Shocks

Good Morning to all of you:

I was wondering if any of you has any experience with Rancho 9000 shocks and
their compressed air buttons adjusting system. Is it really reliable? It
looks nice and it isn't expensive, but I see there a potential waste of
cash.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:01:29 -0500
Subject: Re: PCV valve for Solex 

> I switched from a single barrel weber carb to a rebuilt Solex.  My 
>weber had PCV valve fed into a base for the carb.  The solex does not 

solex equipped land rovers did not employ the PCV system. they simply vented 
the crankcase and valve cover into the great pavement yonder. This system used 
a different oil filler neck and cap, as well as a different valve cover 
breather. You bes bet is to keep the current equipment and run a hose from the 
fitting on the oil filler neck down to somewhere below the crankcase...leave 
the vlave cover breather the way it is with no hose. Only problem you might 
encounter with the above modifications is water ingress into the crankcase.
You could always switch to the early style neck and breather caps.

later
daveb

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From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:06:40 -0700
Subject: Disco on CNN

Disco, according to the news in the middle of nowhere, on it's roof lying partly
in the water. When they opened the doors no one inside. And no ones reported
missing.My sympathies to the owner.

Tom

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:18:19 +0200
Subject: Re: PCV valve for Solex

David R. Bobeck wrote:
solex equipped land rovers did not employ the PCV system.

I beg to differ! Not being a petrol SIII expert, but having had a petrol
engined SIII in care for the last year. This had a PCV system - but it
had been dismantled by the previous owner - there was some sort of
pressure diaphragm between the distributor and the carb, as well as a
hose entry on the carb which was capped off. Similarly there was a hose
entry capped off on the oil filler tube. There was no hose entry into
the lower crank case.

I did once try to couple the oil filler tube to the carb with a hose -
just like the book said - the result was very black smoke and little
traction. So I removed the hose and capped again.

My mechanic tells me that this set up was standard for the Scandinavian
market. I have never seen one that works though...

I played with the carburation of Eskild (the SII in question) for
months, never really got it right - achieved smooth tick over and
running, good timing and reliable starting, but still experienced
stalling at tick-over - or far too high revs if the tick over was
adjusted to avoid stalling, as well as sudden loss of power when
changing down at junctions. Other than that the car runs fine, and still
acheived 100 kph on the flat.

As Eskild was "only" a "foster-car" I never went into great detail - I
replaced all the mving parts and jets in the carb, adjusted, and then
adjusted again - continually - I didn't really get beyond the adjusting
stage.

But then I normally tickle diesel motors, which is a totally different
kettle of bananas.

Adrian Redmond

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:24:24 +0200
Subject: HTML - no rover content

At the risk of wandering off topic, are there any HTML afficionadios out
there who can answer this one.

I use Netscape 4.04 and composer. On some websites which i visit, I have
noticed that if I click on a link, it opens automatically in a NEW
browser window, whilst others go to that URL in the same window.

When I programme HTML myself, I use the URL http://www.???.??? in the
link attributes dialogue box, to determine where the link will link to.
But is there a command string which can "force" the link to open that
link in a NEW browser window on the client PC?

Or am I being stupid here somewhere?

Happy rovering.
 
Adrian Redmond

"Whitworth may be a pain, but it's nothing aside HTML"

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From: Casey McMullen <st93wxta@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:27:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: dynamic timing a 2.25 petrol

The Haynes and Porter manuals both state that dynamic timing adjustment 
is best but to refer to manuf. for specs.  Does anyone out there adjust 
timing dynamically with a strobe light?  If so what are the settings?  I 
have a sIII, I think 8:1.  Should I just give up and use the light 
bulb/static method?

thanks,
Casey McMullen
'72 sIII 88
casey@drexel.edu
http://httpsrv.ocs.drexel.edu/undergrad/st93wxta/

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From: Todd_Wilson_at_Rivergate@ccmail.columbia.com (Todd Wilson)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:37:25 -0700
Subject: sIII dual brake booster.

               
     I need to get a functional brake booster going for my truck. It's a 
     1967 109 sIIa but it has, I believe, a sIII dual master cyl and 
     booster. I've rebuilt the master but am not getting an boost from das 
     booster.
     
     test 1: Start truck with foot on the brake pedal and when engine 
     starts watch for brake pedal to move down. Didn't happen!
     
     test 2: With engine running, disconnect vacuum line from booster and 
     check for vacuum. Vacuum present.
     
     btw: engine is 2.5 td.
     
     So, in checking around there is a rebuild kit but it doesn't include 
     the diaphragm. A new booster goes for $300ish or something.
     
     Question, Did any other British car use that booster or has anyone 
     found an available replacement diaphragm for that booster? 
     
     I also ran into an issue with the adjusting pins on the shoes. The 
     truck was a nada six. As part of this brake overhaul I replace all of 
     the components of the brakes except the drums. I noticed that the 
     adjusting pin on the shoes is 1mm longer on one side than the other. 
     As your looking at the shoes (either side) the left shoe mounts with 
     the longer portion on the inside. Conversely, the shorter pin is on 
     the inside on the right (inside being towards the backing plate of 
     course). As I try to adjust the right side shoe about a third of the 
     way round the cam adjuster travel the pin rides up and over the cam 
     allowing the shoe to pull back against the wheel cylinder. 
     
     I looked at the shoes off the truck again last night and there is no 
     orientation that I could find that would allow the long pin to be 
     inside on all shoes.
     
     Do I have the wrong set of shoes? I managed to get decent brakes by 
     poking a screwdriver through a stud hole where a stud came out with 
     the lug nut and holding the shoe up against the backing plate while I 
     adjusted the shoe.
     
     Thanks, 
     Todd
     
     PS. I already checked with the pharmacist for replacement diaphragms, 
     no luck.
     
     Pss. I'm located in the northwest, USA

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:44:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CA to regulate diesel emissions

California is moving to regulate diesel engine exhausts.  Teh AP newswire
report I am looking at is rather lacking in detail, but CARB has  list
40ish chemicals, including chlorine, benzine, dioxin as "toxic air
pollutants".  (That they weren't already is fairly shocking to me.)  What
CARB is going to promugulate as regulations is not yet known, probably:
-- require cleaner engines
-- reformulate fuel
-- alternative fuels

Other facts:
-- 2% of CA vehicles are diesel
-- 60% particulate exhaust is from diesels
-- 30% NOx emissions are from diesel
-- don't tell us what percentage of miles diesel engines cover, so these
numbers are pretty context-free

David

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:15:40 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: PCV valve for Solex 

>David R. Bobeck wrote:
>solex equipped land rovers did not employ the PCV system.
>>I beg to differ!
>> Not being a petrol SIII expert, but having had a petrol engined SIII 
>>in care for the last year. 

SII's came wth Zenith's, not Solexes.
>- there was some sort of pressure diaphragm between the distributor and 
>the carb, 
>>I beg to differ!
>> Not being a petrol SIII expert, but having had a petrol engined SIII 
this is the PCV valve itself
>as well as a hose entry on the carb which was capped off.
>the carb, 
>>I beg to differ!
vacuum advanvce/retard?
>there was a hose entry capped off on the oil filler tube. 
>the carb, 
>>I beg to differ!
this is where the lower crankcase vents in the direction of the 
abovementioned valve.
>There was no hose entry into the lower crank case.
>the carb, 
>>I beg to differ!
see above...
>I did once try to couple the oil filler tube to the carb with a hose - 
>just like the book said - the result was very black smoke 
>>I beg to differ!
>> Not being a petrol SIII expert, but having had a petrol engined SIII 
yes you need the valve for it to work correctly
>My mechanic tells me that this set up was standard for the Scandinavian 
>market. I have never seen one that works though...
>>I beg to differ!
>> Not being a petrol SIII expert, but having had a petrol engined SIII 
US too for SIII's and some late (headlight in wings) IIa's. Works fine 
if the diaphragm is not split and there are no other intake problems 
(leaks, or other carb problems). Mine has given me no trouble whatsover.

>I played with the carburation of Eskild (the SII in question) for 
>months, never really got it right 
>>I beg to differ!
sounds like there may be an intake leak, could be in the manifold gasket, the 
PCV diaphraghm, brake booster if fitted or economy valve diaphragm on the carb 
(not sure which carb tho'). slowly cover as much of the top of the carb with 
your hand as you can without stalling the motor. If the revs pick up then there 
is an intake leak.

later
daveb

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From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:00:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Disco on CNN 

In message <bulk.7997.19980828080816@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:

> Disco, according to the news in the middle of nowhere, on it's roof lying par
> in the water. When they opened the doors no one inside. And no ones reported
> missing.My sympathies to the owner.

	See what happens when you don't take your Land Rover off-road from 
time to time?  They escape and do it on their own.   Sometimes they get too 
frisky and hurt themselves.

Ben
--
Benjamin Smith                   "If I were running such a contest, I would
Collective Technologies          specifically eliminate any entries from Ben 
    (a pencom company)           involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere. 
Land-  : '72 Series III 88"      He'd drive it up the Amazon Basin for a half
 -Rover: '94 Discovery 5-Spd     can of Jolt and a stale cookie." --K. Archie

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Alexander" <geoff@cine16.com>,

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:02:30 EDT
Subject: Re: CA to regulate diesel emissions

No worries, I'll have that Tdi I always wanted, before this goes too far!

Charles

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:23:53 EDT
Subject: Re: CA to regulate diesel emissions

Troublw with CARB? Just register it in Nevada, c/o LROA's address, now
*that's* a benefit worth way more than the annual fee for old-rover owners
(older cars, not the owners)... 

okay, I guess it borders on deception, but then I think deception is written
into nevada's state charter somewhere; how else to explain its aberrance? 

(Here in FL, we have county-by-county emissions regs & testing. If you have a
post-74 vehicle that you want to tinker with, or can't get to pass emissions,
just register it in some gulf coast counties.)

--pat.

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:36:35 -0700
Subject: I'll see you in Portland

Of interest only to those going to the Portland, Oregon All British Field
Meet next week...

It's official,  I just registered my Rover for the Portland show.

Going down to Seattle via the Anacortes Island ferry on Thursday, then on
down to Portland on Friday.  If you come across a Limestone 88 with no roof,
stranded on the I5, stop and say Hi...
Hope to meet up with some of you on the way...   Itineraries anyone?

I'll be out of town (Sailing the Gulf Islands) till Wednesday so I won't be
receiving e-mail after today.

Ps,  I hope to install a CB tonight.  Is there a standard channel to
monitor?

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
Victoria, BC

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:29:37 -0500
Subject: Re[3]: PCV valve for Solex  

in my last message i wrote:

>SII's came wth Zenith's, not Solexes.

that should have said SIII's...

later

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:59:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Discovery Knocking noise 

>>I regularly get a knocking noise from under the Discovery 

could there be some boots knocking in the backseat?

later
daveb

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:09:22 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re: Discovery Knocking noise

In a message dated 8/28/98 4:04:48 PM, daveB answered:

<<>>I regularly get a knocking noise from under the Discovery >>

could there be some boots knocking in the backseat?>>

Hey, maybe it is a rustworm just trying to get in... or that infamous rover-
seeking cat, wrapped around the driveshaft. oh no, not rovers and cats again!

--pat.

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:36:27 -0400
Subject: Temp calibration

put the probe in boiling water.  >>

I wondered about that but wasn't sure it would register correctly if it wasn't
touching the block. (Final ground).  As it is, the old IIa sensor locates the
gauge at the junction of the white and clear area when the thermostat is fully
open,  seems like the right place for it!

 It is a simple maztter to clip a lead on the exterior of the sensor and
link it to ground.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:38:44 -0400
Subject: Idle

 Nate writes : - My engine is a SII (although I don't know if it's been
skimmed to a 8:1
compression).  I changed plugs and wires last night and can't get a smooth
idle back-

 Are you sure that you fitted the replacements in the correct sequence ?
1;3;4;2 
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:30:11 -0500
Subject: steering freeplay

People, I went to test drive a 1986 D90. I felt exesive freeplay on the
steering wheel. Can that be adjusted or it is a matter of changing expensive
parts?
Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:39:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Idle

In a message dated 8/28/98 4:34:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wleacock@pipeline.com writes:

<< Are you sure that you fitted the replacements in the correct sequence ?
 1;3;4;2  >>

Yup.  I think I found the problem (with Al Richer's help).  Whilst turning the
distrib. to try and get it tuned, I received a rather abrupt shock.  Figured
it is a cracked cap.  Just to make sure, I checked again last night.  No
contact with the wires, I get a definite shock from the cap.  New one coming
and I'll time it again.

Thanks for the help all

Nate

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From: Kirk Hillman <khillman@rttinc.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:56:36 -0700
Subject: Speedo

Douglas,
    In the SIIa that I have, I don't know.  I don't know what all the
wires and prongs are in the back of the Smiths speedo are for.  A wiring
diagram would be nice.  I am not good with electrics.  I could figure it
all out if I had a meter and an afternoon to kill.  There is a little
square block on the back that has three male connector prongs on it.
There is an end to a wire on it, but no wire attached.  Also, there is a
wire in the dash that is apparently blue that is not connected to
anything.  This truck is scarry when it comes to wiring.  One of the
previous owners must have replaced most of the wiring.  That person got
everything working, and even labeled some of the wires with tape.  The
problem is that it was done a little messy and even the wires with tape
are illegible now.
    Back to the problem at hand.  Should the speedo need power at all?
Again, this is all new to me.  I understand that the indicator lights
would require power, thus all the misc. wires coming out the back of the
speedo, but my choke light works, and that is the only other thing on
there I am worried about.  I don't even know if a Smiths is the original
speedo or not (I am sure to find out soon though).
    What specifically does the speedo cable route into at the other
end?  Is it likly that the cable is broken or dislodged from the source
end in the drivetrain?  Thanks all for taking time to consider my
plight.

Regards,
Kirk D. Hillman
'66 SIIa (still no name)

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:05:18 -0700
Subject: RE: Speedo

The speedometer itself is purely mechanical and needs no wires.

There are however a few warning lights in the Speedo:  Oil Pressure, High
Beam and Cold start (at least they're there on mine which is late SIIA
vintage)  plus the Speedometer night illumination bulb of course.  

You'll need to consult a wiring diagram to trace these...

Paul in Victoria.

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:06:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Speedo

On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Kirk Hillman wrote:

z>     Back to the problem at hand.  Should the speedo need power at all?
Only for the lights in it.  In a 66, you should have just two lights, one
the read-the-thing-in-the-dark light, and the high beam indicator.  You,
of course, may have a latter speedo.  

>     What specifically does the speedo cable route into at the other
> end?  Is it likly that the cable is broken or dislodged from the source
> end in the drivetrain?  Thanks all for taking time to consider my
> plight.

The speedo cable goes into a speedo drive housing on the left hand side of
the transfer box.  It is quite likely that you have a broken or loose
cable.  Pull the dash, then disconnect the cable from the speedo.  You
should not be able to spin the cable freely, nor should you be able to
pull the inner section to far out of the outer houseing.  Replacing the
cable is not terribly easy, though it is dirty.  Mine recently died
because it got burned by the exhaust pipe.

David

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From: "Wrecker" <wrecker@wreckers.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:59:51 +0100
Subject: Re: My wife says YES!

I must be very lucky. My fiancee insists on me having a Land Rover. When I
had to sell my S11a swb last year due to finacial probs she went out and
found a S111 lwb for sale at a give a way price for me to restore just so we
still had one of Solihulls finest in the family and the only complaint I
ever get is that at 5'3" she dosen,t feel safe driving her so she wants to
know when we are going to get a S11a swb again so she can have fun driving
it.
Yours Thankfully
Wrecker

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From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:36:18
Subject: Re: My wife says YES!

There is no difference between the 88 and 109 from the rear bulkhead
forward.  Your wife should have no reason to be intimidated by the 109.
The 109 is a bit more of a handful to maneuver in tight places which may be
her complaint.  

Shouldn't be talking, however.  My wife will only ride in the rover under
duress let alone drive it or find me another one.  At least I don't have to
compete with her for the keys to the rover
Aloha Peter

the only complaint I >ever get is that at 5'3" she dosen,t feel safe
driving her so she wants to >know when we are going to get a S11a swb again
so she can have fun driving

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:52:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Clutch...again!

>Steve Rochna <75347.452@compuserve.com>

>I just got back home after being away for awhile.  

Glad to have you back in town...I guess you fly-guys didn't sortie with the
fleet for Hurricane Bonnie....

>The question is is it normal for these things to leak with disuse and
>drastic temp changes or should I pull the thig out and rebuild the master
>(where the leak was)?

Probably a good idea.  I've found that when Castrol dries out, it leaves
these little crystals behind (most likely aluminium salts of some type) and
that these little buggers cut up the seals.  It may work for a while but
better to rebuild it at you leisure than later on.  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:43:47 -0400
Subject: What winds, indeed

pat >SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:

>Sandy, I see that Bonnie is predicted to drop some water up your ways? I
guess
>the Ginseng Lake, er, Bog, will benefit from a bit of moisture a few weeks
>before it is once again called into service ;-) Hope the winds spare you, and
>that the Atlantic doesn't surge up...

Thanks for the concern.  Strange storm, that Bonnie.  Came ashore in
eastern NC and then just *sat* there.  Some places had hurricane force
winds for a full day...and usually that happens for just a couple of hours.
 As it headed north it was downgraded to a tropical storm, but we were
having 75-100 mph winds here in town.  Weather service changed it back to a
Cat. 1 storm.  Mind you *none* of the predictions were right for this storm.

It passed to the east of town, so winds backed around to the NE.  That
apartment building real close to the office did lose its roof (trusses,
actually) but they went the other way.  One hell of a mess.  One crew is
cutting down and throwing away the debris and another is putting up another
section...and Hurrican Danielle is on the same track three days away.

This was very much a coastal event, I don't think that Buckingham County
and Penlan Farm got much at all.  It's storms that go inland (like Fran and
Hugo) that dump torrential rains in the Piedmont.  And it's not the
Gingseng Bog that's the worry now, the Bootsucker Bog is now *open water*
with fish living in it.

The forecast for the Atlantic hurricane season has suddenly been revised...
to a much more energetic one.  If there is pending catastrophic weather, we
will notify everyone as to the status of the Mid-Atlantic Rally.  It isn't
so much the wind and the rains and floods.  The Route 15 bridge over the
James probably doesn't have too many more years left.  If you ever looked
up at it from underneath, you wouldn't want to drive across it.  Cheers

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From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:05:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: British Brake Double Flare

 Anyone know how to make British Brake Flares?

 I'm forced to make a whole new brake system for our
 Series I 80" with 3/16" lines and fittings, replacing
 the existing 1/4" system.  Snap-On tools has a standard
 (as opposed to metric) "American" double flare tool, but
 I'm sure this is the proper one.  The fittings are BSF
 (British Standard Fime) and supposedly commonly used in
 air conditioning systems in the US.  The male and female
 fittings, T's, couplers, and even a brake light switch
 are available from the usual LR parts dealers, although
 I'm having a bit of trouble locating a 1/4" to 3/16"
 adapter necessary at the master cylinder.  Any help or
 advice is very much appreciated!

 Also, I seem to recall a brake article in LRO or LRW some
 many months ago.  Anyone recall the issue?

-Michael

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From: Kirk Hillman <khillman@rttinc.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:07:18 -0700
Subject: Speedo

David,
    ... and all others, I 'got to' check the speedo cable this evening.
Silly me, I checked the speedo drive housing first.  Those three little
bolts are nearly impossible to get off, worse to get on with an
overdrive.  That seemed to tell me nothing.  The cable did turn
(actually it did tell me something, I was able to pull the housing back
to see the cable turn, but I didn't clue in at that point).  So I
fiddled with those silly bolts again to put them back in.  I then
checked the dash end.  Of course, no turning.  Broken cable for sure.
It makes sense too.  The cable is bent up around the
transmission/transfer case like it probably should be to keep out of the
way.  The problem is that an extra electric fuel pump was added so that
the cable got kinked.  I am not looking forward to replacing that cable,
not even a little.
    After the frustration of that little ordeal, I wanted to go have
some fun.  Gassed up the rover and picked up a friend.  We went down by
the river and played a little hear and there.  We followed some trails
(made them suitably wide for a rover in some cases) until we got to the
gravel pit at the end.  I remember as a kid playing on these piles with
a trials motorcycle.  Just for fun I hit one in four low second.  I
wasn't really even trying, but I scarred myself how far we got up.  I
was excited now!  We found our way on top.  I looked at the steep side
from above and thought, 'I could do that.'  Well we went down all
right.  That is it for my story.  Let me tell you that 'Holy S**T!' was
part of the decent.
    I am new to rovers, but they haven't ceased to amaze me yet.  I can
put up with little things going wrong all the time for the wonderful
things they can do.  Rover on!

Regards,
Kirk
'66 SIIa (nameless)

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