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1 Ian Otty [imo@kerridge.c30SER: Series 3 diesel parts for sale (UK)
2 Ian Otty [imo@kerridge.c18RE: Diesel starting problems
3 asfco@banet.net 12Rear Tub For Sale
4 "Brian Jenkins" [brian@n30Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
5 msullivan@paravant.com (15RE: LEAF SPRINGS
6 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o16Re[2]: Texas
7 "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@32Archiving LRO posts--redundant.
8 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M24Re: Diesel Starting Probs
9 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi28See ya'll
10 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi13[not specified]
11 "David and Cynthia Walke9Re: LEAF SPRINGS
12 Paul_Hackbart@stream.com87Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions
13 Paul_Hackbart@stream.com87Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions
14 NADdMD [NADdMD@aol.com> 13Speedo question
15 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us15Britcar "survey" spam
16 Oliver_Gottlob@t-online.105Re Diesel Starting problems
17 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1122Re: Britcar "survey" spam
18 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 23Unleaded
19 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 28Servo servicing
20 David Scheidt [david@inf18Re: Unleaded
21 gruno@att.net.hk (Keith 8Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions
22 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml18RE: Unleaded
23 "Chris Dillard"[cdillard10Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions [multipart mime
24 Adrian Redmond [channel629Re: Do I sync my front axle half shafts?
25 "William L. Leacock" [wl20Springs
26 "William L. Leacock" [wl25Diesel starting problems
27 "William L. Leacock" [wl15Brake booster
28 Gavin Smith [GavinFSmith8The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
29 lndrvr@ldd.net (BRIAN WI18Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts
30 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire28Re: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts
31 jory bell [jory@mit.edu>20Re: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts
32 CIrvin1258 [CIrvin1258@a22It's alive!/passed a SIII in Palos Verdes


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From: Ian Otty <imo@kerridge.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 98 12:36:46 BST
Subject: SER: Series 3 diesel parts for sale (UK)

Now that my series 3 rebuild has turned into a hybrid coil sprung special, I 
have several parts that I no longer need. 

Series 3 2.25 diesel cylinder head from 3brg engine 
Injection pump, injectors and glow plugs
Diesel starter motor and alternator
Series 3 gearbox complete
Brand new boxed diesel clutch plate
Nearly new rear propshaft
New & unused rear halfshaft
Brand new boxed 2.25 diesel timing chain
Brand new boxed fuel filter

If anyone can collect these they can have them all for £250 or email me 
individual offers.

Also can somebody let me know what the name of the coil sprung digest is please?

Does anybody know if the NAS90 roll cage/soft top is available in the UK?

Thanks,

Ian
(SER3/90 V8 special)

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From: Ian Otty <imo@kerridge.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 98 12:46:39 BST
Subject: RE: Diesel starting problems

I had a similar problem with my 2.25 diesel years ago, it refused to run. I 
spent many hours and much money in checking and replacing much of the fuel 
system only to find that the rubber membrane in the fuel pump had perished. 
This was renewed for 
less than £1.00!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the problem went away. My fuel pump was the type 
that allowed manual priming.

Good luck!

Ian

PS. I now always check the least expensive parts first and work my way up!

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From: asfco@banet.net
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:24:56 -0400
Subject: Rear Tub For Sale

I have a rear tub for sale off a 1968 lla short wheelbase.
asking  $250 
If anyone is interested e-mail me off the list for particulars etc..
Located in Albany, NY
Rgds,
Steve

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From: "Brian Jenkins" <brian@nettrek.com.au>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:17:09 +0800
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

Can someone set a proper example of seriousness for Charlie, please?
I can relate to John Donne (who would surely have been a Super Snipe
man had he been born this century) but those other names have no place
in a serious British motoring newsgroup.  (Try a clove stuffed in the
tooth, Charlie.)

Brian Jenkins

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Studebaker: "Give more than you promise"

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

[Charlie contributed:]

> That's easy for you say, driveless sense is more my forte except
when I'm
>going to the dentist in the morning. Which I am. Squark, banana, fig
leaves
>I'll have a cup of tea Mrs Onassis. Rave on John Donne. And you
Gregory.
>Has anybody got an idea what a carburettor is?
>Serious answers only please <vbg>
>Charlie

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From: msullivan@paravant.com (Mark Sullivan)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:33:38 -0400
Subject: RE: LEAF SPRINGS

The bushings eye on the driver side front main leaf has enlarged to the
point where the bush moves freely at least a 1/8 in all directions. Does
anybody know if beating the eye with an appropriate size hammer will close
the gap or will the spring steel resist, in which case a trip to the local
ye old smythe shop be required.

Mark Sullivan
Senior Engineer
Paravant Computer Systems, Inc.

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Fri, 15 May 98 09:12:37 EST
Subject: Re[2]: Texas

>The membership fee is 36.00 per year and currently they are trying to be 
>registerred with the state. They will also give members 10% discount on 
>vehicle kits.

Vehicle kits? I'd like a 90 tdi p/u with 3/4 canvas please...

I sure hope you didn't mean K.I.T.T.s...

later
DaveB

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From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:50:05 -0400
Subject: Archiving LRO posts--redundant.

Saw something from a couple of days ago about saving all of the posts to
LRO. Just want to be sure that folks realize that, thanks to our listmaster
extraordinaire (All praise Bill!), this is done for us--with some cuts when
auto-reply filters go awry! ;-)--and is accessible and searchable using any
WWW browser. (Well, any that supports tables anyhow.) Check it out at
lro-info.html and conserve space on your own
drives.

One note here--sometimes "recent" archives aren't indexed for
searching--there's a process that Bill has to fit into his busy life. So
it's not a bad idea to save a few months worth of digests if you're real
serious about "total access."

RoverOn!

jab

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================
	My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
	My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
	Taste for the good life,
	I can see it no other way.
		--Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:11:57 +0000
Subject: Re: Diesel Starting Probs

>Sounds to me that you have a leaky seal, gland or washer - somewhere in
>the fuel line,

Sounds like its on the suction side(unless its the lift pump itself),
otherwise there would be diesel evident by appearance or smell.If
it were on the delivery side of the DPA pump,or the spill line the
engine would still run.
I've had both.Suction line failure on a Citroen C15D van (not mine,
I hasten to add) giving the "start and die" symptom,and a spill line
failure at the banjo union on no2 injector which had no effect on the
engine but an 'orrible pong in the cab (My Land Rover this one),and
an engine clean in places.As a matter of interest,the brass insert in
the spill union had become uninserted.Cure was to remove the spill line,
turn up a new brass insert(nice having a lathe at times like this),and
using Fry's liquid solder resolder the new one thus produced into the union.
Ineresting little job,albeit unwanted at gone nine on a cold evening.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:42:57 -0400
Subject: See ya'll

Dear all,
Quick good-bye to the list.
It has been fun, but time just doesn't permit me to make any real quality
input recently so I'm heading off. I also have 4 staff members using the
computer for company emails now and between computer time, work, etc. there
just aren't enough hours in the day.
If for any reason you need to reach me or have questions, need free tech.
advice, information, whatever, please feel free to email me directly. I'll
be glad to try and help. I'm going to try and put a bit more time in the
ECR web page as well, so if you have anything you would like to see there,
let me know.
Best to all, have a day, and hope to see you at the events during this 50th
year of Land Rover!
See ya!
Mike Smith

From: EAST COAST ROVER CO.
*Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME (USA) 04864
207.594.8086 phone  207.594.8120 fax
http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:43:42 -0400

unsubscribe lro

From: EAST COAST ROVER CO.
*Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME (USA) 04864
207.594.8086 phone  207.594.8120 fax
http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:33:44 -0700
Subject: Re: LEAF SPRINGS

That is how they would have done it thirty years ago! - The beating it part
I mean - most farmers do it that way still.
David

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From: Paul_Hackbart@stream.com
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:03:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions

This is a survey intended for all past or present owners of British Cars.  If 
you consider this survey to be an intrusion on your list, please tell me and 
if there are enough complaints this will be the last British Car Owner Survey.
        Why a survey? Us Americans are generally deprived of British cars.  Even
the
British are slowly but surely being deprived of British cars.  Please pardon my 
intrusion onto your list, but I do believe that there is no way BMW (Leyland), 
Ford (Jaguar-Aston), or The French (One of them owns Rootes Group, bought from 
Chrysler) will EVER reintroduce our favorite cars unless there is some 
documented demand for them.  Cars that we can get, like the Jaguar, will become 
increasingly less like the Jaguars we knew and remembered because the current 
master-of-the-marque does not know what the essence of each marque is.
   To help create original research, I ask that anyone with a few moments to
spare please answer the following questions about Jaguars.  Each week, month, 
(or never again if this posting pisses people off) we will do another marque, 
to find out what the key characteristic of each marque are.  The statistics 
will be posted. REPLY DIRECTLY TO MGMAGNETTE@AOL.COM    DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY 
TO YOUR OWN MAILING LIST.  Chances are that I am not a member, and this one 
letter was enough of an intrusion, we don't need to fill up the Hillman board 
with junk about Jags.  My suggestion is that you cut and paste the following 
questions directly into your reply, if possible.  Feel free to ramble on with 
long answers if need be.  OPINIONS OF NON-JAGUAR OWNERS ARE EXTREMELY VALUED
     
1.  Do you own a Jaguar?  If not, would you ever want one?  Which one?
     I own 4. I have owned at least 1 Jaguar since I was 15.
2.  What does the name "Jaguar" mean to you?
     thoroughbred, refinement, class, performance
3.  What is your general idea of what a Jaguar owner is like?
     Intelligent well mannered. Someone who KNOWS how to drive and KNOWS 
     their cars.
4.  What elements make a Jaguar a Jaguar?
     See #2. Mechanical Engineering, styling, Special JAguar interior 
     appointments(ie. Leather, wood)
5.  What don't you like about Jaguars?
     nothing
6.  What do you see in older Jaguars that you want to see in the modern 
versions as well?
     Personality. Stop trying to please everybody and be individualistic.
Thank you for your time, and though these aren't alot of questions your 
answers will cover alot of territory.  I hope you didn't mind this intrusion 
on your list.  If this didn't upset too many people we will do "Rover" next 
week, the car most likely to be introduced to America in the year 2000. 
Thanks-   John
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From: Paul_Hackbart@stream.com
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:03:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions

This is a survey intended for all past or present owners of British Cars.  If 
you consider this survey to be an intrusion on your list, please tell me and 
if there are enough complaints this will be the last British Car Owner Survey.
        Why a survey? Us Americans are generally deprived of British cars.  Even
the
British are slowly but surely being deprived of British cars.  Please pardon my 
intrusion onto your list, but I do believe that there is no way BMW (Leyland), 
Ford (Jaguar-Aston), or The French (One of them owns Rootes Group, bought from 
Chrysler) will EVER reintroduce our favorite cars unless there is some 
documented demand for them.  Cars that we can get, like the Jaguar, will become 
increasingly less like the Jaguars we knew and remembered because the current 
master-of-the-marque does not know what the essence of each marque is.
   To help create original research, I ask that anyone with a few moments to
spare please answer the following questions about Jaguars.  Each week, month, 
(or never again if this posting pisses people off) we will do another marque, 
to find out what the key characteristic of each marque are.  The statistics 
will be posted. REPLY DIRECTLY TO MGMAGNETTE@AOL.COM    DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY 
TO YOUR OWN MAILING LIST.  Chances are that I am not a member, and this one 
letter was enough of an intrusion, we don't need to fill up the Hillman board 
with junk about Jags.  My suggestion is that you cut and paste the following 
questions directly into your reply, if possible.  Feel free to ramble on with 
long answers if need be.  OPINIONS OF NON-JAGUAR OWNERS ARE EXTREMELY VALUED
     
1.  Do you own a Jaguar?  If not, would you ever want one?  Which one?
     I own 4. I have owned at least 1 Jaguar since I was 15.
2.  What does the name "Jaguar" mean to you?
     thoroughbred, refinement, class, performance
3.  What is your general idea of what a Jaguar owner is like?
     Intelligent well mannered. Someone who KNOWS how to drive and KNOWS 
     their cars.
4.  What elements make a Jaguar a Jaguar?
     See #2. Mechanical Engineering, styling, Special JAguar interior 
     appointments(ie. Leather, wood)
5.  What don't you like about Jaguars?
     nothing
6.  What do you see in older Jaguars that you want to see in the modern 
versions as well?
     Personality. Stop trying to please everybody and be individualistic.
Thank you for your time, and though these aren't alot of questions your 
answers will cover alot of territory.  I hope you didn't mind this intrusion 
on your list.  If this didn't upset too many people we will do "Rover" next 
week, the car most likely to be introduced to America in the year 2000. 
Thanks-   John
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        land-rover-owner@playground.sun.com, hillman@can-inc.com,
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From: NADdMD <NADdMD@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:49:30 EDT
Subject: Speedo question

Hi all,

Is a SIII and SIIa speedometer housing and worm gear completely
interchangable?
The SIII worm gear looks different but has the same part number.

Nate

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:52:01 -0400
Subject: Britcar "survey" spam

Keep this luxo-snobmobile tripe off our list!
We don't care about anything newer than 1980 around here, unless it has 
"Tdi" in its nomenclature.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: Oliver_Gottlob@t-online.de (Oliver Gottlob)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:03:30 +0100
Subject: Re Diesel Starting problems

Hello Dennis,

I am also running a 109 Diesel and had a similar problem tow or tree

times. 

First:

In the winter of 1994 (My first winter with the Diesel, I bought it in
Okt. 1993) the Landrover ist running fine at the start. After

a few Km then there was no power, the car is going slower an slower.

Then suddely it went like before. This happens every morning (at 5:30

AM) several times on my way to the work. I don´t want to get struck
because it was very cold (abt minus 20 degree Celsius).

After a few day I found the problem: The Water (a lot of) in the

sediment and water tap (below the passager (right) side) there was so

much water that if i drive the wind freesed it up. After removing of the

water and dirt (abt 3 cm high) (on the day minus 10  C) the truck runs

fine again.

Second:

In the Summer of 1994 (a few month later) on the B1. The Truck is going

slow and then normal again. I thougth no problem "I know this". But the

sedimentor was free ! After a few more Km (slow and fast) I stopped

again and checked all. After removing of the Fuel pump (not the injector

pump) and a strip down I found that there was the inlet valve is dirty.

After cleaning all and a refit it go again (with no slow & fast).

Third:

If my truck parked longer than 10 hours I had to prime the fuel system.

After a lot of tries I changed all seals an gaskeds (especialy the

copper and aluminium ones) and after a final primimg the problem solved.

(alwas clean the sedimentor before winter and change the gaskeds if

removed)

Hope this helps.

Oli

1976 Landover 109 Diesel "everyday transport" slow & smokey

I visit the ARC International 1998 form Friday 22. May.

look for a light green 109 with canvas: SO-XA 245

http://www.qsl.net/dg5dbv

> From: Kuhl Dennis <Dennis.Kuhl@hvr.siemens.de>

> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:37:54 +0200

> Subject: Diesel Starting Probs

> Subject: Diesel Starting Probs

> Hi ,

> Hi ,

> I have an nice 109 Station SIII, 2.25 ltr Diesel engine

> I repaired a lot of Parts and the Car was running quite good. But since a

> few days its is very hard to start the engine. After a normal glowing-Time

> the Engine is coming up very easy but after a few seconds he dies. After

> this I need to use the starter more then one min. After about one min. the

> engine ist running like new. . The diesel System ist Checked an no air ist

> in it when I start.

> in it when I start.

> If Anyone hs a good idea  please write me.

> If Anyone hs a good idea  please write me.

> Dennis Kuhl

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Britcar "survey" spam

Bill Adams wrote:
>Keep this luxo-snobmobile tripe off our list!
>We don't care about anything newer than 1980 around here, unless it has
>"Tdi" in its nomenclature.

I'll Second That! They don't make 'em like they used to!!
Peter Kaskan '65 IIA

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Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:57:41 -0400
Subject: Unleaded

"Adam Jones" <adam.jones@mcmail.com> wrote:

>What is the cheapest way of converting a 2.25 Petrol head to unleaded. I
>have just had a quote of £20 per valve plus £30 extra for refacing etc.

If you are really trying to save a few quid, you don't need to replace the
inlet valves.  Only the exhaust valves/seats are affected by residual
oxygen in the exhaust flow....

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
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  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:05:09 -0400
Subject: Servo servicing

"Huub Pennings" <hps@fs1-kfih.azr.nl> wrote:

>I am still in the process of disassembling two '88's, one petrol and 
>one diesel and am wondering if I can use the vacuum brake booster 
>assembly  of the petrol '88 SIII 1975  together with the diesel 
>engine. Are these two units the same? Or should I stick to the 
>corroded diesel unit? Anyone any wishdom on this one? 

There shouldn't be any difference in the servo units, only a difference in
how the vacuum is created on the petrol and diesels.  Test both units by
drawing on the vacuum port.  If you can't pull a vacuum on one, the
diaphragm is probably perforated or perished.  Oh yeah, the plastic one-way
valves sometimes go bad separately....  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:08:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Unleaded

On Fri, 15 May 1998, A. P. "Sandy" Grice wrote:

 >What is the cheapest way of converting a 2.25 Petrol head to unleaded. I
 >have just had a quote of £20 per valve plus £30 extra for refacing etc.
 If you are really trying to save a few quid, you don't need to replace the
 inlet valves.  Only the exhaust valves/seats are affected by residual
> oxygen in the exhaust flow....

And if you are really trying to save a few quid, don't do anything until
the engine actually eats a valve.  

david

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From: gruno@att.net.hk (Keith Addison)
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 02:14:19 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions	        
[multipart mime

That's the 3rd time we've had this survey - wasn't once enough??

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:20:50 -0700
Subject: RE: Unleaded

Hi all,

I'll say again that my Land Rover has been running on unleaded with
unhardened valves for 10+ years (not including the 5 years it sat in a
back yard).  Compression is still 130-150 lbs/in2 on a 7:1 head!  I know
that I eventually will have a problem, but I'm not going to fix
something that's not broken!

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/
Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:07:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [xj-s] British Cars Owner Survey- 6 Questions	[multipart mime

LEARN HOW TO READ E_MAIL DIRECTIONS !!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
C. Dillard

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 00:52:57 +0200
Subject: Re: Do I sync my front axle half shafts?

When changing the swivel joints/balls and pinions, I have removed the
axles from the diff.

When replacing these - do they have to be inserted in any specific
aspect to acheive synch? (like mounting the front and rear tranny's) or
does it not matter?

Any advice anyone?

(SIII 88" 1979 diesel)

Adrian Redmond

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:24:49 -0400
Subject: Springs

Chris, rebuilding road springs, especially the OE ones is a useful exercise. 
I usuualy start by hammering each leaf on an anvil ( a big piece of steel
joist will do ) to flake off the loose rust. If the set is a bit flat it is
possible to beat some set back into trhe leay. Start by putting the main
leaf on its side on the floor, chalk allong the side so you have a copy of
the curve, hammer the leaf against an edge and you can beat some curvature
back into it, compare the curve with the original until you are happywith
the new shape, mark out the new shape and then make all the others the same
profile. Re assemble with a light smar of grease between the leaves.
 Thsi usaully gives the sprig another few years of life. It is particularly
effective for springs in which the leaaves have separated due to the build
up of rust. Reving the rust agfeter dismantling works wonders.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:40:43 -0400
Subject: Diesel starting problems

Denis, your assesment is correct, it is not an air in the fuel problem. The
Land Rover diesel does not self prime, the fact that you can start it again
after a minute confirms this.
 The fact that it stops means that fuel is not being properly injected into
the combustion chamber, or that compression is not present. ( insufficient
air being drawn into the cylinder for compression, or poor ring condition ?
or poor valve sealing ) 
 The injectors have two orifices for fuel injection, one a smal bypass
sprays fuel onto tje heater plug to aid starting, the other is contolled by
a spring loaded needle which releases fuel when the injection pressure is
reached, if either of these is dirty starting problems follow, but the fact
that the engine runs well when it finally starts suggests that they are
decent. Does the 109 have a servo ? The servo flap, if badly adjusted could
cause lack of air for the combustion process, is the air filter clean ?  Is
the fule filter and fule pump sediment bowl clean ?  Is the fuel pump
working efficiently, this needs to generate  5 or 6 psi ( 35 to 40 kp ) of
primary pressure for the distributor pump.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:48:30 -0400
Subject: Brake booster

Huub, the brake booster could be used on the diesel, however you need some
additrional equipment. A standard diesel engine will not provide sufficient
vaccum under normal operating conditions to power a brake booster. Look in
the parts list for a 109 series 3 and you will see a butterfly valve
arrangement which is fitted at the air inlet, This valve closes when the
accelerator is released and creates a vacuum in the inlet manifold. a small
vacuum tank is also utilised as a vacuum reservoir. 
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:04:39 -0400
Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

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From: lndrvr@ldd.net (BRIAN WILLOUGHBY)
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:16:16 -0500
Subject: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts

Hello to everyone.  I haven't heard anything about this ever, though what
are the collective thoughts of fellow listers about using aluminium nuts
and bolts to attach such things as inner and outer wing panels together?  I
know that aluminium fasteners will be more expensive, though I would like
to prevent galvanic corrosion around the fasteners themselves.  I'm worried
about strength and resistance to deforming under the normal stress and
strains the body panels will encounter.  Any thoughts?  And finally, if not
aluminium, how about stainless steel?  Or brass?  Or copper?  Thanks in
advance,

Brian
1960 Series II 88" S.W.

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:07:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts

Use zinc plated mild steel nuts and bolts but use hot dipped galvanised washers
against the aluminum.Do not use stainless steel against aluminum. Without
getting into a long dissertation on galvanic corrosion the easiest solution is
to place zinc (galvanising) steel against the alum. If you wish it is
acceptable to use stainless (although not in areas requiring grade 5 or 8
strength bolts) hardware just as long as you use hot dipped washers.Zinc is
less "noble" than aluminum and therefore becomes sacrificial to the alum.
Stainless steels particularly the "3" series are significantly more noble than
alum and will corrode faster than mild steel.

BRIAN WILLOUGHBY wrote:

> Hello to everyone.  I haven't heard anything about this ever, though what
> are the collective thoughts of fellow listers about using aluminium nuts
> and bolts to attach such things as inner and outer wing panels together?  I
> know that aluminium fasteners will be more expensive, though I would like
> to prevent galvanic corrosion around the fasteners themselves.  I'm worried
> about strength and resistance to deforming under the normal stress and
> strains the body panels will encounter.  Any thoughts?  And finally, if not
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> Brian
> 1960 Series II 88" S.W.

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From: jory bell <jory@mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:47:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts

fwiw, i've had very good luck with stainless fasteners in rovers.

::jory

>Use zinc plated mild steel nuts and bolts but use hot dipped galvanised
>washers
>against the aluminum.Do not use stainless steel against aluminum. Without
>getting into a long dissertation on galvanic corrosion the easiest solution is
>to place zinc (galvanising) steel against the alum. If you wish it is
>acceptable to use stainless (although not in areas requiring grade 5 or 8
>strength bolts) hardware just as long as you use hot dipped washers.Zinc is
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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 02:29:59 EDT
Subject: It's alive!/passed a SIII in Palos Verdes

Finally finished converting my 109 to a SIII gearbox, and BOY - what a
difference! I now have the ability to tolerate L.A. traffic, with my SIIa
diesel!

Whilst going for a "test drive" around Palos Verdes, Ca. this afternoon, I
passed a pastel green SIII 88 (I think it was a SIII), going in the opposite
direction! Any idea of whom this could have been?

Charles
P.S. - Anybody considering a SIII gearbox conversion please note: You have to
cut away a bit at the flanges on the front crossmember (the one underneath the
engine), because the hump in the gearbox casing for the clutch slave won't
clear it. Also - either you have to go with the SIII clutch master, OR (like I
did, being the poor bastard that I am), make a new hydro line from the master,
ot the slave, AND use a thread adaptor on the slave cylinder (the diameter for
the fitting is larger than the SII fittings)

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