1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: Kevin Sellitti <Kevinsel@gte.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:39:29 -0400 Subject: RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest /unsubbing A mind is a terrible thing.... He who Laughs Last.... Thinks slowest........ Kevin Sellitti The Defender 110/130 Pickup Website http://home1.gte.net/kevinsel/ Kevinsel@gte.net ---------- From: Russ Wilson[SMTP:rwilson@usaor.net] Sent: Saturday, April 25, 1998 8:47 PM Subject: Re:The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest /unsubbing >In a message dated 4/24/98 7:48:08 PM, mfoster@CHROMALLOY.COM wrote: >> unsubscribe >What do y'all think when you see this message on your screen? That some poor stupid shit is just trying like hell to make the influx of messages stop. Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Wrecker" <wrecker@wreckers.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:44:28 +0100 Subject: Re: The simplest anti theft devices... HI all Not wanting to have to point out the obvious flaw in the idea of having 4 fwh fitted but how do you get the parking brake to work when the hubs all the hubs are disengaged ? I had this prob after snaping a half shaft in my 88" S11a. I had to let the Land rest against someone elses car whilst I got out and re-engaged the front hubs so I could get her to stay still by puting her in 4wd. Yours Wrecker ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: mark.luker@virgin.net (mark.luker@virgin.net) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:04:38 +0100 Subject: Landrover News from Whitby, North Yorkshire, England. Hello all, I am a bit of a lurker on this list, I love Landies but am without one at the moment, so don't usually have much input to offer. This morning, the newly formed Whitby and District Landrover Enthusiasts (WADLE) had their first 'rally' for want of a better word. I would think that nearly 75 Landrovers turned up for a drive round the town and a park up on the pier. All series Landies where well represented, also there was a Freelander, some Disco's and Rangies, two or three Lightweights and a Forward Control (which was for sale, and I'm trying very hard not to think about that, as I have no where to put it). Commercial Landrovers were there too, with Gas, Electricity, Coast Guard and Fire services being covered. Also there was a Ser IIa ice-cream van, which had its photo in LRO sometime last autumn. All in all a very good turnout, it rained, but somehow Landies and fine weather don't go hand in hand. Well, not round here anyway. There was a collection for charity too, but I don't know what the total was. Cheers Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 07:46:15 -0700 Subject: Greasing springs When I first put my Land Rover back on the road, we just came back from sailing and it was the only vehicle we had. Cindi was also eight months pregnant! Her smooth ride demands were.......well, shall we say - PRIORITY!!!!!! (if you have not been in a situation of mixing a rough vehicle and late pregnancy - well, then you might miss the point) I needed to LR to be real smooth Two major changes were: A good set of M&S rated radials with no edge knobs. Dry - DRY - graphite lube between the leafs (this was night and day). Please note that I did not use grease. After giving a few different LR owners a ride over the years, I have been told that mine is the most comfortable and quiet :-0 Land Rover they have ever been in. It does help with wheel articulation also - I go off road a decent amount. Oh, the first trimester was on an off-shore delivery.....32 days, 2900 NM....Delivered in a Mid wife clinic in Calgary. Land Rover is not just a statement, it is part of our lifestyle. Cheers David Wahoo Adventures - Stay at Home Father 1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD" Ural Motorcycle - S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 11:30:33 -0300
Subject: Re: Landrover News from Whitby, North Yorkshire, England.
mark.luker@virgin.net wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am a bit of a lurker on this list, I love Landies but am without one at
> the moment, so don't usually have much input to offer.
> This morning, the newly formed Whitby and District Landrover Enthusiasts
> (WADLE) had their first 'rally' for want of a better word. I would think
> that nearly 75 Landrovers turned up for a drive round the town and a park up
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> Cheers
> Mark
It was raining the last time I was in Witby too but that was in a
Vauxhall Astra so there was really no excuse for the weather.
John and Muddy
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]From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:15:38 -0600 Subject: Re: Parabolic springs-Hey Jeff! Jeff, An other option for purchaseing the springs is through a guy in Colorado Springs, CO. He and great basin are the only two allowed to distribute in the US under contract from the manufacture. His name is Frank Jakos a Concourse Cars. I think his pricesd might be a bit more reasonable...I've never heard of needing the "kit" to install a set that are safe, functional, and much improved over factory leafs. Frank- 719-473-6288 mon-fri 8am-5pm Yours' John ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: jimellis@primenet.com (jim ellis) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:55:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: Newbie in AZ-Stick in the Mud? ;-) Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> >Look for us in our green and white VW Westfalia at the starting point of the >Flagstaff event in June! Will you be stuck in the mud?? Is there mud in Az??? Ah, quite! good one. Let me reassure the list that the Ellis family is not a bunch of "Sticks in the Mud" ~ Also the written word sometimes prevents one from understanding that all parties are intending humor/humour. All has been received and sent as such. BTW: Little chance for much mud in Northern AZ in June. Look for mild to warm weather and good times. July and August are a bit wetter but not bad at all. To clarify, we intended to camp and *watch* the start off and then procede on to the California VW Classic in Irvine California. I have yet to convince my wife that a Landie is a brilliant idea. There is hope as I got her hooked on me and aircooled German fodder. She still smiles once in awhile. I will, in future posts, try to restrict my comments to mechanical discussions... -ellis\ ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:02:11 -0300
Subject: Re: Newbie in AZ-Stick in the Mud? ;-)
jim ellis wrote:
> Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
> >Look for us in our green and white VW Westfalia at the starting point of the
> >Flagstaff event in June!
> Will you be stuck in the mud?? Is there mud in Az???
> Ah, quite! good one.
> Let me reassure the list that the Ellis family is not a bunch of "Sticks in
> the Mud" ~ Also the written word sometimes prevents one from understanding
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> hope as I got her hooked on me and aircooled German fodder. She still smiles
> once in awhile.
Driving a VW bus you must be used to people smiling at you. Mostly in
that rather patronizing way reserved for small boys and fools.
John and Muddy
> I will, in future posts, try to restrict my comments to mechanical
> discussions...
> -ellis\
> Will you be stuck in the mud?? Is there mud in Az???
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]From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Newbie in AZ-Stick in the Mud? ;-) Also the written word sometimes prevents one from understanding >that all parties are intending humor/humour It was taken as such... Welcome to the list >. >I have yet to convince my wife that a Landie is a brilliant idea. If you manage to do this I am sure that there are many, many, men who would love to be let in on your method of persuasion. >I will, in future posts, try to restrict my comments to mechanical >discussions... Don't do that..... The list needs a bit of humor/humour no matter how poorly recieved by those that ARE "sticks in the mud" Good luck on finding a suitable Rover for your needs Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Jeff Goldman <roverboy@gis.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:24:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Parabolic springs-Hey Jeff! At 02:15 AM 8/10/98 -0600, you wrote: >Concourse Cars. I think his pricesd might be a bit more reasonable...I've >never heard of needing the "kit" to install a set that are safe, functional, >and much improved over factory leafs. Thanks for the info on Concourse. I should clarify, however, that a "kit" is not necessary to install parabolic springs, and Great Basin does sell just the springs alone. The "kit" is for an almost complete suspension upgrade and changeover including, new springs, shocks, polyurethane bushes, and assorted hardware. Perfect for those going the frameover suspension replacement route and need all the aforementioned items. The parabolic springs alone do work as direct replacements for the stock springs, if so desired. Jeff G. Boston, MA ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:59:52 EDT Subject: Re: Parabolic springs Does anyone know what is *parabolic* about parabolic springs? Does the axle describe a parabola in traveling up & down when going over bumps, or does it have to do with the shape, or what? I saw the pictures of them on that www. page and the leaves looked pretty straight from center to bush (not flat from end to end), with a gap between the leaves, under no load. Maybe under load they look "parabolic"? pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:24:12 EDT Subject: Hydraulic Winches & Capstan To those who were looking at Mile Marker winches, but fell asleep waiting for them to spool in, here's another www site that offers winches & hydraulic capstans: www.dpwinch.com dp WINCH, Inc. Tulsa, OK 1-800-dpwinch no connections or comments, other than they have a lot of orange paint on hand! pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 18:41:10 -0400 Subject: Jerry cans Anyone in teh USA who wants nice Swiss Jerry cans... the Sportsman's guied has some and evidently they ARE in stock because I just ordered 5. they are $11.97 a piece catalog # for them is d8m-23686 donkey dicks for them are d8m-13473 if you need them... Phone # is 1-800-888-3006 there is no maximum number that you can order... this company usually socks it to you on shipping when you order small stuff but in jerry cans its pretty fair. I'm not affiliated with them etc, just a pretty satisfied customer, and I'm trying to make up for thet Northern Hydraulics fiasco last fall... ;) good luck Matt Nelson Hartwick, New York ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:34:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Parabolic Springs Again dbobeck wrote: > so what i want to know is > 7. What is meant by parabolic. How are these different from regular > springs. > 8. Please only knowledgable answers A semi-knowledgeable answer: >From the pictures I've seen the parabolic springs have a progressive rate, meaning they get stiffer as the are compressed,. This is due to the free ends of the secondary leaves which are not in contact with the other leaves initially. This is not uncommon on light trucks these days. Also this construction reduces friction and should reduce harshness. The parabolic name may signify that these springs have a rising rate and thus a "parabolic" rather than linear force-deflection curve. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:38:28 -0400 Subject: cheap alternative Hi everyone, it's me again. I don't have any off-road lights yet, pretty much because of their price. But I came up with a cheap and neat alternative that I'm proud of. I want to use four of those 300 watt rectangular worklamps like you might see in Lowes or Home Depot. I'm probably going to need to get a Dual Battery System also. The 300 watt worklamps are built for AC Power but I'm going to use a DC/AC inverter to power them in the Disco. I'll then mount them using a light bar that I'll hopefully find. I'll hook them up electrically by leaving all the electrical stuff (like the inverter, because it requires direct connection to the car battery) under the hood, probably screwed to the firewall and using some well-insulated copper wire to extend the switch out of the inverter to the interior of the Disco. All thoughts/advice appreciated! Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:51:57 -0400 Subject: Bumper heights, wheel size, etc. The federal passenger car bumper regulations have never applied to LR series trucks, nor Defenders. Both are exempt as off-road light trucks due to the combination of 4wd, approach angle, ground clearance, running or axle clearance, breakover angle, and departure angle. (I deal with bumper req. at work.) Also, the US passenger car bumper requirements kicked in around '73, so I don't think they had anything to do with the switch to 15" wheels. More probable is a request from the US marketing folks to follow Jeep who switched to 15" wheels from 16" in the early '60s. Most new heavy trucks (much heavier the LRs) are now covered by a rear under-rider requirement, and the height requirement for those was recently lowered. This may be the regulation David Walker was refering to. I wonder about the reason LR moved the headlights outboard in the late '60's. Neither Jeep CJ's nor Toyota LC's moved at that time. Both new US regs and Australian regs are sometimes sighted as the reason. Were the LR headlights closer than Jeep or Toyota so that they alone had a problems, or did LR mis-understand the new regulations, or what? Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:56:56 -0400 Subject: Synchro repair << The "pliers " that surgeons use to close off blood vessels are extremely useful when fitting the springs. >> Hemostats. Straight or curved and about how long? Nate Mine are about 1 inch to the hinge point and about 6 inch long. I have seen some about 4 inch but I think they would be a little short. Cant imagine curved or staright would make much difference, mine are straight. Of course if we have some surgeons on the list with surplus hemostats I am willing to try different types. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:05:20 -0700 Subject: Re: cheap alternative Mohammed Taheri wrote: > I want to use four of those 300 watt > rectangular worklamps like you might see in Lowes or Home Depot. I'm > probably going to need to get a Dual Battery System also. The 300 watt > worklamps are built for AC Power but I'm going to use a DC/AC inverter > to power them in the Disco. All thoughts/advice > appreciated!. Only thing that comes to mind is......don't. We have them (500 w x 4) on our new Fire Dept. Rescue truck, Volvo, diesel. During trials, we let it sit idling with the four lights on. After about 15 minutes it automatically set itself up to high idle to offset the battery condition. About 30 minutes the lights were observed to be noticably dimmer. After another 1/2 hour, we shut it down, and tried to restart the engine. No go. So, one of the mods that came of the trials was the addition of a 5000w gen-set. It not only powers our lights when on a call at night for any length of time, but also is a back up for our regular gen set that powers lights and fans etc. (can also be used to jump start the Rescue in case someone forgets to switch the gen-set up). Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: PScales <pscales@blvl.igs.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:20:41 Subject: 88" IIA sn244xxxxxE is a 1966 >. Further to my question about IIA serial numbers and production years, I just looked at a wretched 88" IIA in Trenton, Ontario (for $1,000!!) with a serial number starting with 244 and ending with E. The owner thinks it is a 1966, and that's how it was once registered. My original question was in regard to a 264xxxxxE IIA. Thanks to the two fellows who have e-mailed their info, but in some ways I'm even more confused now. Does anyone else have a 264xxxxx LR? Peter PS: The man I visited today also has two 1955 88" LRs, in terrible shape. I've never seen a 1955 in Canada! >. ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:35:22 -0400 Subject: Re: cheap alternative > Only thing that comes to mind is......don't. We have them (500 w x 4) on > our new Fire Dept. Rescue truck, Volvo, diesel. During trials, we let it > sit idling with the four lights on. After about 15 minutes it > automatically set itself up to high idle to offset the battery condition. > About 30 minutes the lights were observed to be noticably dimmer. After > another 1/2 hour, we shut it down, and tried to restart the engine. No > go. So, one of the mods that came of the trials was the addition of a [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)] > Con Seitl > 1973 III 88 "Pig" Thanks for the info, but what if I used a dual battery system? Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:36:24 -0700 Subject: Re: 88" IIA sn244xxxxxE is a 1966 PScales wrote: > I've never seen a 1955 in Canada!. Well, come on down, I'll give ya a ride in one. Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" **and a 1955 I 86** ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:39:03 -0700 Subject: Re: cheap alternative Mohammed Taheri wrote: > Thanks for the info, but what if I used a dual battery system?. The Rescue's got 4 batteries. Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:49:54 -0400 Subject: Re: cheap alternative Con P. Seitl wrote: > The Rescue's got 4 batteries. Wow, guess I'm back to the drawing boards. Thanks! Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:51:46 -0700 Subject: Re: cheap alternative Con P. Seitl wrote: > The Rescue's got 4 batteries.. I should add, that the truck ain't no small one either. It's one foot shorter than our Pumper, 34 ft. Got bunk for 3 fellows for ScBA, all our Jaws of Life gear, pumps, stretchers, E-vac gear and supplies, a whole bunch of med gear I hope not to use, etc etc, and of course, we run all those flashing red and white lights and sirens. (it's the real reason we drive fire trucks ;-) ) Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 18:17:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Bumper heights, wheel size, etc. Headlights were moved to meet the minimum distance between them requirements laid out in the BIG automotive change year of 1968 (Thanks to Ralph). Jeeps were not modified because they meet the requirements (I think 24 or 26" c to c on the lights). Land Rover lights could not be moved out far enough (they were already moved to the edge of the center panel). Additionally, Jeeps have a wider radiator panel. All cars, import and domestic underwent huge changes in 1968 - pollution controls, death of the true muscle cars, braking requirements, light requirements - taillight also.....to mention a few. There were new bumper reg's in 68 also - in 73 they added the "5 mile per hour impact reg.", among others. I did extensive custom work - decroming, body mod's etc. on a variety of vehicles in the past. - I really like those pre 1968 vehicles! Cheers David Wahoo Adventures - Stay at Home Father 1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD" Ural Motorcycle - S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 18:51:14 -0700 Subject: Re: cheap alternative More light If you want more light up front - switch to higher power bulbs in your headlights. 55/60 are stock but you can go higher (illegal in most places though) I have 90/140's - great at night. David ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:33:07 EDT Subject: Re: cheap alternative In a message dated 4/26/98 7:42:55 PM, you wrote: >[But I came up with a cheap and neat >alternative that I'm proud of. I want to use four of those 300 watt rectangular worklamps like you might see in Lowes or Home Depot. I'm probably going to need to get a Dual Battery System also. The 300 watt >worklamps are built for AC Power but I'm going to use a DC/AC inverter >to power them in the Disco. I'll then mount them] yadda, yadda, yadda... Ack! I can't think of a reason to come up with such a proposal. (BTW, your Disco just wouldn't happen to be *Beluga Black*, would it?) How many lights do you need up there? I often wonder about that. I'm often coming home after sun down, but have never felt a burning desire for X-more watts of light on the roof... I mean, how fast can I drive at night before I'm Treading-Not-So- Lightly into an obstacle my regular headlights on high can't pick up? Unless I want to be some Desert-Racer wannabee, jumping off dunes in Baja, I think headlights give a lot of illumination when going off road at night, especially in low range. Then again, I can't comment on your Disco's stock lights (never been in one at night), but I have 7inch H-4s with good bulbs, and they perform admirably. Save the money and use it to put on a decent under bumper guard or better off-pavement tires (IMHO, the extra lights will just light up the mudbog your stock tires can't get you through, better). I must admit, that I too sometimes fall for the marketing hype and the need to hang all sortsa bits off a land rover, but I'm humbled when I see Quintin take his 80inch all over, and do everything without ARB bumpers, zillion pound winches and staduim lights. I mean, it isn't like everything is necessary, just adjust your pace. But, who's to say what to whom, right? Personal preference rules at the end of the day, which is why we all drive different rovers, set up differently. I also believe in changing things out as they're needed, not just because it is the latest thing on special at RN; ie: keep the muffler till it falls off, then get the snazzy zoom tube, or keep the stock bumper until you (or I) hit a tree, then judge whether it was really too weak (it wasn't, really). I admire those who can buy a vehicle and decorate it with add-ons as soon as it gets home, but I would caution against it. You'll spend less, and spend wiser. my .02 pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 18:52:43 -0700 Subject: Re: 88" IIA sn244xxxxxE is a 1966 There is a 54 and 56 for sale in Calgary - 500 Doll hairs for the pair! David ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: cheap alternative Mohammed, have you priced an DC/AC inverter? Last I looked they aren't cheap. I seem to remember that in JC Whitney they ran from 100 or so for really small ones to about 5 or 6 hundred. Four of those 300 watters will suck (300watts x 4 /12volts) 100 amps from that inverter - That's a lotta juice! Peter ----------------------- Peter M. Kaskan Uris Hall 231 Dept. Of Psychology Cornell University 607-255-3382 pmk11@cornell.edu ----------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:47:41 EDT Subject: Re: cheap alternative/2 I didn't mean to sound negative on the whole idea, I think the suggestion of using 110VAC lights from Home Depot through an inverter just struck me as a bad idea and I wanted to save humankind from doing that kind of jury-rigging. Dave runs brighter bulbs, so do I, though not quite as bright as his... and they do make a big difference. Big enough that I will continue to be like a Dutch Tulip Farmer and search far and wide for good bulbs. Someone has a good webpage on wiring additional accessories (I think it is C Glaves w/ a 90), and there are also other sites with the proper way to run a new harness and relays. I highly recommend doing it properly when you add electrical accesories. so that makes it .04 pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:49:20 EDT Subject: Re: Re: 88" IIA sn244xxxxxE is a 1966 In a message dated 4/26/98 9:38:27 PM, you wrote: >There is a 54 and 56 for sale in Calgary - 500 Doll hairs for the pair! What's the catch? They are frozen under 300 feet of ice next to a WWII squadron? Any idea on the condition/s? pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:59:29 -0400 Subject: Re: cheap alternative More light David and Cynthia Walker wrote: > If you want more light up front - switch to higher power bulbs in your > headlights. 55/60 are stock but you can go higher (illegal in most places > though) I have 90/140's - great at night. Thanks for the info, where do you live? Speaking of bulbs, have yall seen those purple headlamps that are on most of the new Mercedes' and Lexus'? If you don't know what they are, they're H.I.D (High Intensity Discharge) Xenon gas systems that don't use light bulbs but use a gas discharge and they cost like $2,000 US. I found a couple of companies that sell colored bulbs that look as close as you can get to the real Xenon systems and they cost about $35 US per bulb and come in almost if not every size. According to my research, the best "imitation" is made by a company called "Heliolite." The URL to the page that has these Heliolites for sale is "http://www.sportscar-parts.com/heliolite.htm" Bye. Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:06:00 -0400 Subject: Re: cheap alternative SPYDERS wrote: > Ack! I can't think of a reason to come up with such a proposal. (BTW, your > Disco just wouldn't happen to be *Beluga Black*, would it?) How many lights do > you need up there? I often wonder about that. I'm often coming home after sun > down, but have never felt a burning desire for X-more watts of light on the > roof... I mean, how fast can I drive at night before I'm Treading-Not-So- > Lightly into an obstacle my regular headlights on high can't pick up? Unless I > want to be some Desert-Racer wannabee, jumping off dunes in Baja, I think [ truncated by list-digester (was 30 lines)] > home, but I would caution against it. You'll spend less, and spend wiser. > my .02 Well basically, there are so many Disco's in my city (Charlotte, NC) that I want mine to be different than the one that pulls up next to me at the traffic light, and also for it to stand out when other people are looking at it, so basically, I want the looks and the occasional off-road performance. I also think that these rectangular worklamps look better than round or rectangular off-road lights, but that's me, and after hearing about the fire truck that didn't have the power for the lamps, I'm not gonna take that route anyway The other thing is that there are huge price gaps between the really awesome bumpers/tires and simple off-road lights, so I would probably go with the lights first and then upgrade the bumpers/tires. ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:08:47 -0400 Subject: Re: cheap alternative/2 SPYDERS wrote: > I didn't mean to sound negative on the whole idea, I think the suggestion of > using 110VAC lights from Home Depot through an inverter just struck me as a > bad idea and I wanted to save humankind from doing that kind of jury-rigging. > Dave runs brighter bulbs, so do I, though not quite as bright as his... and > they do make a big difference. Big enough that I will continue to be like a > Dutch Tulip Farmer and search far and wide for good bulbs. [ truncated by list-digester (was 16 lines)] > electrical accesories. > so that makes it .04 Thanks again for the info! Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:10:41 -0400 Subject: Re: cheap alternative Peter M. Kaskan wrote: > Mohammed, have you priced an DC/AC inverter? Last I looked they aren't > cheap. I seem to remember that in JC Whitney they ran from 100 or so for > really small ones to about 5 or 6 hundred. Four of those 300 watters will > suck (300watts x 4 /12volts) 100 amps from that inverter - That's a lotta > juice! Peter Wow! Therefore, you could buy 4 $100 lights and a good light bar and still have some money left over. Ok, so that means that the real way is the way to go. Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:17:53 -0400 Subject: off-road lights While looking for off-road lights, I found an amazing source, the prices are what make it amazing, this has to be the way to go. The URL is "http://www.rinto.com" Bye. Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Jarvis 64 <Jarvis64@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:42:04 EDT Subject: Re: Jerry cans Are the swiss ones like the British ones? I have a Brit one I got a few years ago for about $10 w/ a British army shovel for another whoppint $5, but, of course, have no recollection whatsoever of where I got them. If the swiss ones are the same (w/ the hinged lid that NEVER leaks), I'll have to get some. Bill ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 23:36:40 -0400 Subject: Hydraulic Fluid level/Clutch Master Before overhauling my clutch master cylinder, I just wanted to check that I'm headed in the right direction. Under the circumstances to be described, my clutch and brakes work well, the only difference being the location of some hydraulic fluid. When I fill up my fluid resevoir, I have a slow leak of hydraulic fluid down the clutch pedal onto my shoe and then the floorboard. This continues until the entire resevoir level drops to about 1/3 or 1/4 full. At this point, the leakage appears to stop. Is this indicative of the need for a simple overhaul or is there some other problem? Does anyone have a suggestion for a commonly available tube (as described in the repair manual) to be used when clearing the clutch hydraulics after an overhaul? TIA David Russell 1997 Discovey SD 5-speed 90% of the pieces needed for a 1969 SIIA "Bugeye" 88" SW Petrol 1965+/- SIIA 109" P/U Diesel, "Loo" (Thanks DaveB) 1977 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser (sort of) http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Bill Fishel" <bfishel@cisnet.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:46:28 -0400 Subject: Re: ><Re: Weird Characters> From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 01:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Weird Characters ><Re: Weird Characters> I'm surrounded by weird characters, what should I do??? Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. Russ I'm sure the coilers with the rusting problems would say take your own advice. "That or a quick pistol shot right behind the ear." Sorry I missed the gathering at your place Thursday. Bill Fishel ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:46:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: 88" IIA sn244xxxxxE is a 1966 One is drivable and running - $500 Canadian Yes this is real David but who wants a series I anyways? wahooadv@earthlink.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:51:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Jerry cans About Jerry cans......... I bought 2 sets of Russian Parts Cleaning Kits - here near Seattle. They contained 2 six litre tanks, a parts cleaning kit (with the WW2 brushes, scrubbers and all) and a tray that holds them - all for $20 The cans do not leak and they are a dead ringer for miniature Jerry cans - working the same as the larger British can. For what it is worth....... David ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:01:46 -0700 Subject: Re: 88" IIA sn244xxxxxE is a 1966 > PS: The man I visited today also has two 1955 88" LRs, in terrible shape. > I've never seen a 1955 in Canada! Are you sure they were 88s and 1955? I believe the 88s didn't start until 1956. Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:12:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Bumper heights, wheel size, etc. > I wonder about the reason LR moved the headlights outboard in the late > '60's. Neither Jeep CJ's nor Toyota LC's moved at that time. Both new US > regs and Australian regs are sometimes sighted as the reason. Were the > LR headlights closer than Jeep or Toyota so that they alone had a > problems, or did LR mis-understand the new regulations, or what? Don't know how true the statement is but LRO May 1998 at page 22 notes: "As a matter of interest, the reason why the headlamps moved to the wings is that US Federal regulations (introduced in 1968) insisted that the main lamps gave a good indication of the width of the car. They clearly didn't when they were alongside the grille, so they had to be changed." Perhaps the pronounced lower fenders of the Jeep and LC made the difference? Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:58:31 +0100 Subject: RE: volcanoes Poas sounds interesting. Of the big ones, you tend to hear of (in TV programs, books, or case studies) you hear of the ones in the US or Europe. In the case of the latter, there'll be at least once civilisation destroyed. Re. Mt. Baker: I've flown over it (scheduled airline flight). We passed over Mt. St. Helens - but I'd seen it before the pilot gave it out on the intercom. I knew we'd probably fly close to it - I even had my camera ready! :-) (yes, you can tell it from the others - there's a lot of grey ash still visible, and lack of snow) Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109) ------------ Being a "trained" geologist, I've done my time on the UK's moors and = wilder parts, albeit on foot. Our volcanoes are a bit older. Most spectacular being the Black Cuillins on Skye - only 57 Million Years since it was active! But then it does mean I've walked inside a magma chamber! :-) [] That sounds just great. We have also older ones, cant give you = numbers, but they are dead. We also have the one with the largest crater = [] in the world, the Poas, and it is semi-active still. Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:12:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Jerry cans >Jerry Can Is that a correctly located Spice Girl? Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR with Bosnian Bits) ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:24:12 +0100 Subject: FFR: Problems solved? Hi all! I *think* I've solved my problems... The BK relay was indeed sticking on. Tried adjusting two of the screws - no use. Then I followed up an idea of my father's: maybe the coil experienced a huge current in the past, and the core of the emagnetic had become magnetised. Apparently this was a common problem in the old Post Office relays (all digital now - similar circumstances give you fried chips). The solution is/was to put some tape over the end of the emagnetic. The idea is that tiny thickness is thin enough for the relay to still work, but thick enough to remove some of the extra "stickkiness". Anyway, tried it with insulation tape - and it seems to have worked! I'm still a bit paranoid - eg. when I connect my earth to the batteries, I get a tiny spark (can't measure any current, so it might be decoupling capacitors charging) Good news, is that a "surge" on the ammeter under certain conditions (poor idle, putting your foot down) has gone. I'd already explained this to myself in terms of the relay sticking on (ie. it should be releasing itself during the poor idle). Anyway, I drove to work with it, but with the case of the top off the batteries, and the two panels need tightening up. As for the high current surge that the new genny panel has experienced: I do know something about the donor vehicle. About 1yr ago, is was sold at auction, coming back from Bosnia as a non-runner. The starter motor was in the back - pointing to a starting problem. I bought the FFR bits bar the generator (already had one of those), knowing that the starter motor was probably dead [still hoping to check it and rebuild it sometime]. Maybe there was somekind of short in the starter motor/solenoid area... Now it needs some attention for the MoT. Brakes are much better after yesterday's adjustments. Number plate light now working. New hazard light switch on order. Just need to restore my seatbelts [I'm not going to get that new bracket made in time), new rear shocks, a working speedo, and I've just noticed my rear chassis might need a little welding :-( Thanks everyone who gave suggestions and hints! I hope to have some diagrams from my exploits on my WWW page in the next few weeks. I have also taken some photos of the inside of the panels. I'll annotate these and add them too. Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:25:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Parabolic springs They're meant to be a parabolic shape - rather than the semi-elliptical shape of conventional springs. Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) SPYDERS@aol.com on 04/26/98 07:59:52 PM Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC) Subject: Re: Parabolic springs Does anyone know what is *parabolic* about parabolic springs? Does the axle describe a parabola in traveling up & down when going over bumps, or does it have to do with the shape, or what? I saw the pictures of them on that www. page and the leaves looked pretty straight from center to bush (not flat from end to end), with a gap between the leaves, under no load. Maybe under load they look "parabolic"? pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Duncan Phillips <dunk@ivanhoe.soc.staffs.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:38:07 +0100 Subject: Land Rover Deaths On the front page of our local newspaper on Saturday wa the following headline: Father & Son Die In Crash Turns out that they were driving along in a soft-top LR when they hit a 5-ft wall and flipped the vehicle over. 3 others survived as they were thrown clear, but the father and son were trapped underneath and pronounced dead at the scene. I have a related question - would a hard-top have faired any better in a flip/roll or should I consider getting a roll bar (not that I intend to roll my motor). I'll be interested to hear whether it was a mechanical failure that caused the accident (brakes/steering??) or if it was driver error (forced or otherwise). I'm sure you'll join me in offering condolences..... ******************************* Duncan Phillips 1980 SWB SIII 'Evie' http://Gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdmp/play/lrover/ ******************************* Big Bad n' Blue ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Semih Bingol <semih@leo.ee.hun.edu.tr> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:02:59 +0400 (EET DST) Subject: Re: Land Rover Deaths On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Duncan Phillips wrote: > I have a related question - would a hard-top have faired any better in a > flip/roll or should I consider getting a roll bar (not that I intend to > roll my motor). A hard-top would have made a negligible difference, if any. I'm seriously thinking about getting a roll-cage to at least protect the kids travelling at the back. Semih Bingol 74 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980427 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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