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From: Jacobs Johan <XY14449@exchange.oldmutual.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:22:27 +0200
Subject: Cape Land Rover Club Newsletter

Hi to all

The latest newsletter of the Cape Land Rover Club is available on our
club website at http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/5382/

Just follow the "Current Newsletter" link. 

To club members and visitors in the area, please note the change of
venue for next weekend's outing and remember next Friday, 1 May 1998, is
a public holiday. The club weekend therefore starts on Friday morning at
a bright and early 07h00.

To club members, also be aware of the advance notice of the Special
General Meeting that has been called to elect a club member to the CLRC
committee to attend to the Series issues.

Johan Jacobs
Webmaster
Cape Land Rover Club
johanj@yebo.co.za

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:18:36 -0400
Subject: Re: off-roading anyone ?

Maybe next weekend - this one's right out....

Let me see what SWMBO has to say.

                    Alan

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:27:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: off-roading anyone ?

OOPS - hit the wrong button...sorry....

          aj"There's a first time for everything"r

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:28:25 +1000
Subject: Links for websites (no LR content)

Lawrence,  I give you permission to link to mine.  Just give me the details
of yours.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia (02) 4735-6883
Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman
for Hillman and Rover

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:15:14 +1000
Subject: FFR Charging lights

Richard Marsden wrote:

> To me it sounds a bit like a relay (solid state or otherwise) is
>sticking on?

Do you have a Lucas alternator?  If so which model?  Some models  e.g. the
15AC etc drain power from the battery all the time when the engine is off.
It's a function of their design.  I can measure how much tomorrow.

Ron

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:28:19 +0100
Subject: Re: FFR Charging lights

Its the "Mark2"  - 24v jobby. 90 Amp.   I guess it would be made by Lucas.
I could find you the NATO Part number...    :-)

If it is the genny, it didn't used to drain a current.

Also, this relay action definitely doesn't look right!  Why have a relay if
its going to be on all the time?

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

hillman@bigpond.com on 04/24/98 01:15:14 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  FFR Charging lights

Richard Marsden wrote:
> To me it sounds a bit like a relay (solid state or otherwise) is
>sticking on?
Do you have a Lucas alternator?  If so which model?  Some models  e.g. the
15AC etc drain power from the battery all the time when the engine is off.
It's a function of their design.  I can measure how much tomorrow.
Ron

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From: "LT J Jackson" <lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Date: 24 Apr 1998 09:11:12 -0400
Subject: Re- Wiper Blades

Rick Grant wrote:

>I lost two wiper blades in Ottawa a couple of years ago and there aren't
too >many vehicles that use those.

If you're in a bind, buy a 20" blade.  Peel the rubber blade off of the rigid
arm.  Cut it in half.  Voila - two 10" blades, sort of.   Spend 20 frustrating
minutes pressing your new 10" blades onto the old metal frame of your worn out
blades.    Goes against my land rover prime directive ("You can't make chicken
salad out of chicken sh*t") but it did work.

Jeff Jackson
Waterford CT

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From: Lodelane <Lodelane@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:16:32 EDT
Subject: Re: FFR Charging lights

Richard,

It's probably a CAV, not a Lucas.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA
USA

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:45:23 -0500
Subject: RE: Found a new deal. Want opinions.

Both sounds just right, excluding the money problem anyway!
Restoring two, mmmmmm, a lot of work.

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From: Paul Wakefield - Serco <Paul.Wakefield@esrin.esa.it>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:09:39 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: Parts interchangeability

re: bonnet & breakfast Defender style on a SIII

I Wrote:
: Is it really this simple ? What about hinge & fittings placement etc.
: 
: I know Craddocks sell a 'defender style' conversion kit for the SIII but does 
: this only consist of a Defender bonnet and breakfast ?
: 
: I had always assumed it was a custom item.

And Luis still wants to know:
> Does anybody knows if the change is that simple, or if it can be achived only 
> through a major surgery custom work? 

Come on you lot, i'm taking a leaf out of Dave "terrier" Bobeck's book and just 
being persistent for a reply, so here it is again.

I can always keep posting it until Bill C kicks me off the list if you like :-}

Someone out there must have measured these bits for fit, and I haven't seen 
this 
thread in a long time.

What say you ?

Cheers,

Paul.

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:17:06 -0400
Subject: searching message archives HOW?

can anyone provide me with info on how to search the message archives by
subject from the list?
TIA
Rgds
Steve Bradke

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:17:59 +0200
Subject: Re: Parts interchangeability

Paul Wakefield - Serco wrote:
> re: bonnet & breakfast Defender style on a SIII
> I Wrote:
> : Is it really this simple ? What about hinge & fittings placement etc.
> :
> : I know Craddocks sell a 'defender style' conversion kit for the SIII but 
does
> : this only consist of a Defender bonnet and breakfast ?
> :
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> Cheers,
> Paul.

OK, here goes, the bonnet and breakfast on the Stage 1's (in my case an
R6) are identical to the defender (note the little "d"), so are the
bonnet hinges. The firewall and the wings are the same as the Series
vehicles. So I guess that means that with a defender bonnet and
breakfast, you'll be alright.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za
http://AfricanAdrenalin.com

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:37:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Parts interchangeability

In a message dated 4/24/98 10:27:23 AM, you wrote:

>OK, here goes, the bonnet and breakfast on the Stage 1's (in my case an
>R6) are identical to the defender (note the little "d"), so are the
>bonnet hinges. The firewall and the wings are the same as the Series
>vehicles. So I guess that means that with a defender bonnet and
>breakfast, you'll be alright.

Something tells me it isn't going to be that easy...  I'm not sure about the
bonnet hinge spacing on the SIII, but the hinges look different on the d;
different design, and the bonnets may have a different curvature to them. Undr
the bonnet at the bulhead is a strip of metal that conforms to the curve, and
maybe the hinge height above the wings is different on account of this.

Behind the breakfast, on my 110 are radiator supports that look like nothing
on a SIII, so one would have to hang the breakfast off the right brackets,
etc. Incidentally, the 97 NAS D90 has a unique breakfast with a perforated
grille below the rad opening for the autotrans cooler I suspect. It could be
useful for someone who wishes to mount an oil cooler below the radiator.

I saw a SIII 109 ex-mil with a d-front last weekend. It was run in a Safari
Triathlon by Robert Palmer & Nader Ardalan from Reeves Import Motorcars/LR
dealer in Tampa or Sarasota. I'll post contact info for whoever wants to ask
about the front end later (when I find the card!).

pat
93 110

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From: AKBLACKLEY <AKBLACKLEY@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:38:51 EDT
Subject: Rag top front bar

Several years ago I bought the soft top offered by Rover North and would swap
the hard top on my former SIIA 88 come spring. The top bar, as I recollect,
bolted directly to the windscreen frame, using the same nuts and bolts and
rubber seal as the hardtop. The only thing I riveted to the top bar was a
little rubber pad in the center. Any other liitle holes were sealed with a dab
of sealer. With whole ensemble in place ( an iron mongers dream) the result
was a top that was quieter and less leak prone than the old hardtop. The only
annoying trait was a tendency to pull in exhaust fumes when ONLY the back flap
was rolled up. With the door tops off and all sides rolled up, vent flaps
open, it was a delight. On the whole the assembly is not unlike erecting an
Army surplus canvas tent.Practice your knot skills for the rear tie down
ropes. Hmmm. I wonder if could convert my RR to a canvas top... Cheers, Andy
Blackley

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From: AKBLACKLEY <AKBLACKLEY@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:38:53 EDT
Subject: Wiper blades

Series II and III do indeed use the same 10" blade a for an MGB.  The best
deal is buy the Bosche blades in black from any good foreign car parts store.
If you want original shiny stainless you will have to hunt around, or buy from
Rovers North. Cheers, Andy Blackley

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:30:10 -0500
Subject: volcanoes

Volcanoes are great offroad destinations. We have one that is active, =
and its great to go camping to it. It is surrounded by a national =
tropical forest wildlife park. In the night you can see the whole =
volcano getting covered by lava explosions while the earth beneath you =
rumbles.
Having (and enjoying) a rover has two sides to it. First the car itself, =
its great to work on you car and get things fixed and improved, but that =
is just the lesser part. The real fun is what you can do with it. Nature =
gives us so much to explore and see. Each time you go out offroading you =
learn a lot of new things, not just from your truck, but from everything =
that surrounds you. There is a mystique to it. Being almost alone in the =
middle of the jungle, or up in a mountain, or down by the sea, stopping =
the engine and hearing each kind of silence there is to each place, =
watching the wild life that surrounds you, smelling fresh and pure air, =
or feeling the rain that falls on you, Could it be anything better? I =
don't think so.

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From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:51:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Wiper blades

I think this statement is a bit too general.  When I switch to a single motor
system (Posts in firewall), the wipers were significantly different from those I
replaced (posts in windscreen).  To which version of the Series 'II' do you
refer?

AKBLACKLEY wrote:
> Series II and III do indeed use the same 10" blade a for an MGB.  The best
> deal is buy the Bosche blades in black from any good foreign car parts store.
> If you want original shiny stainless you will have to hunt around, or buy from
> Rovers North. Cheers, Andy Blackley

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:49:58 -0500
Subject: RE: Parts interchangeability

That would be great, Pat.

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:30:10 -0500
Subject: volcanoes

Volcanoes are great offroad destinations. We have one that is active, =
and its great to go camping to it. It is surrounded by a national =
tropical forest wildlife park. In the night you can see the whole =
volcano getting covered by lava explosions while the earth beneath you =
rumbles.
Having (and enjoying) a rover has two sides to it. First the car itself, =
its great to work on you car and get things fixed and improved, but that =
is just the lesser part. The real fun is what you can do with it. Nature =
gives us so much to explore and see. Each time you go out offroading you =
learn a lot of new things, not just from your truck, but from everything =
that surrounds you. There is a mystique to it. Being almost alone in the =
middle of the jungle, or up in a mountain, or down by the sea, stopping =
the engine and hearing each kind of silence there is to each place, =
watching the wild life that surrounds you, smelling fresh and pure air, =
or feeling the rain that falls on you, Could it be anything better? I =
don't think so.

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From: Mike MacDonald <mmacdonald@laserdirect.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:07:35 -0700
Subject: RE: Rover Sighting

I've been away from the board for a bit, so I don't know if anyone else
has noted this sighting yet. In the new Animal Kingdom just opening at
Disney World in Florida they have a "safari ride" where you travel
around 100+ acres of African rangeland viewing animals from an open air
lorry.  At the end of the "safari" you have the opportunity to see a
couple of Land Rovers being used as props for the scene.  Unfortunately,
they are used by the bad guys (poachers), but hey, at least they're
LR's!.

BTW, Disney World is great if you're looking for a family vacation site
- just don't take little kids, you'll wear yourself out!  Ours are 12
and 15 and they had a great time!

Mike MacDonald
1957 Series I - 88"

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From: "david j hope" <davidjhope@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:16:34 -0500
Subject: llA gearbox

Reversing down my short driveway last night to get out to the road the
gearbox suddenly and violently jumped into third gear and has refused to
move out of third gear since then.  The clutch is fine and still disengages
the tranny from the engine, so I had no problem driving back into my garage
so that I could hide this latest embarrasment from my well to do neighbours
who already think I'm mad.

The gearbox is a professionally rebuilt unit with about 100 miles on it.  I
do not have an overdrive.

Just before this happened I had taken the rear PTO cover off to reseal it
following a slow but substantial oil loss - oil was draining out of the
gearbox into the transfer case because I had forgot to put in one of the
connecting bolts.  I put the internal bolt in, properly sealed the PTO
cover, refilled the oil in both tranny and and transfer case, reversed down
the driveway in triumph and smug satisfaction at my great handiwork and bang
it jumped into 3rd and will not move.

Any ideas before I tear into the tranny again?

David Hope

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From: William Dan Terry <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:26:16 -0600
Subject: Series Parts For Sale

Must clean out garage in Fort Collins, CO, USA.

Will consider all reasonable offers. First check gets item as I seem to
have incorrectly interpretted items as being claimed, taking them off
the market, yet still have them.

- Civ fuel tank, filler neck and body fitting, cap, locking hasp, filler
hose, $120

- 2.25l head rebuild parts: intake valve guides, exhaust valve guides,
valve seats, head gasket set, oil seal and gaskets/front timing cover,
$100

- used seat backs from IIA, one with a small tear in side, other with
breaks in seams between center parts and sides, foam good, make offer.

- non-Landy Isuzu cassette/stereo and 4 speakers, electronic, from
Special Equipment Trooper, $40.

- Series brake adjuster kit, replacements for cams adjusters. Have
three,
will sell individually or as set, new. $10 each or $27 for the three.

- Series front vent knob, uses little screw to stay on, (not sure which
versions used what style, mine was press on L shaped hole), new, $1

- IIA press in wheel studs w/ 15/16 flat-side nuts, new, 2, $15

- IIA petrol cap and Lucas 7mm Premium wires, new, $18

- IIA upper right front door hinge, used w/ new bolt, spring, bronze
bush,
locker and nut, $15

- RN Transfer case vent system to keep Fairly OD from filling with oil,
new, $13.

- 2.25 part gasket set, none of the large gaskets, but probably all and
more (multiples) of the small ones, $25

Happy Rovering, William

_______W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y_______
  How do we acquire wisdom along with all these shiny things?
  (David Brin)

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:18:28 +0000
Subject: Re: Wiper blades

I think this statement is a bit too general.  When I switch to a single motor
system (Posts in firewall), the wipers were significantly different from those I
>replaced (posts in windscreen).  To which version of the Series 'II' do you
>refer?

I'd hazard a guess,and say that the blades are the same length whatever,
but the arms are a different length.My local parts blokes(UK) only sell
one length of blade.That is to say,you go in and ask for a pair of wiper
blades,period.The only question you are likely to be asked is whether
you want the sprung blades or the straight ones.Since the screen is flat,
I cant see any reason to pay extra for sprung blades.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:23:30 +0100
Subject: Re: volcanoes

>Volcanoes are great offroad destinations. We have one that is active, =
>and its great to go camping to it. It is surrounded by a national =
>tropical forest wildlife park. In the night you can see the whole =
>volcano getting covered by lava explosions while the earth beneath you =
>rumbles.
I guess this was the volcano she was looking at.

>Having (and enjoying) a rover has two sides to it. First the car itself, =
>its great to work on you car and get things fixed and improved, but that =
>is just the lesser part. The real fun is what you can do with it. Nature =
>gives us so much to explore and see. Each time you go out offroading you =
Being a "trained" geologist, I've done my time on the UK's moors and wilder
parts, albeit on foot.   Our volcanoes are a bit older. Most spectacular
being the Black Cuillins on Skye - only 57 Million Years since it was
active! But then it does mean I've walked inside a magma chamber! :-)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: William Dan Terry <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:45:00 -0600
Subject: IIA 109 mil ht for sale

Fort Collins, CO, USA

~6k miles on RN trans w/ OD, HC head, front axle rebuild (new swivel
balls, bearings...), new Zenith carb w/ selection of jets, springs,
alternator, brakes (master cyl, wheel cyl, lines, shoes, drums), clutch
(new master and slave), tires, seats, front prop shaft, front splash
panels, one new fuel tank (other is original), Def rear fog and backup
lamps, front exhaust pipe, anti-burst door latches w/ keys, passenger
side-step,
seatbelt pickups for full shoulder retractables. Over $13k in parts and
professional labor (Landy mechanics).

In other words, good mechanicals. You can stand on the rear x-member
bumperette, but it is deteriorating. Rest of frame is in good shape, but
could use clean-up and refinish. Body has no damage, paint has seen
better days (NATO green w/ white on the sun sheet). 

Serious inquiries to wterry@netpubsintl.com. Will entertain all
reasonable offers. Regret losing La Rana (the frog), but finances force
sale.

Happy Rovering, William

_______W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y_______
  How do we acquire wisdom along with all these shiny things?
  (David Brin)

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:05:21 -0400
Subject: Getting air

Jeff Berg wrote:

> I didn't even know he'd got air until Sandy published the photo in the
ROAV >Gearbox...with the caption "Jeff Berg shows how NOT to drive the
trials >course."

Not quite.  I didn't know who's vehicle it was, as the spare tire obscured
the registration number.  The actual quote was "how it's not done: the last
obstacle on the trials course."  Jim Wolf took the photos of Jeff's 88"
getting airborne.  In fact, it was airborne so high/long that Jim's
motordrive clicked off *three* shots.  When we built the clay mound, we
were intending to make stair-steps out of railroad ties, but it has always
been a "roun' tuit".

>LOL! I'd forgotten about the *contest*. (The photo originally ran with a
>caption giving me credit for the deed. The contest came along a few issues
>later.) Sandy, who was it that won?

The contest asked folks to "place an 'x' where the front, driver's side
wheel of Jeff Berg's 88 will land (and no he wasn't driving ...or even in
the vehicle for that matter).  Closest to the actual mark will win a
T-shirt from each of the past rallies."  Considering the prize was worth at
least $45, we didn't have a single entry.

Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:05:18 -0400
Subject: Silicone redux

Ron Beckett wrote:

>BUT, the penultimate paragraph says "Don't expect to see silicone brake
>fluid produced by the major brake manufacturers because expanded use of this
>material will reduce their parts and fluid sales to near zero"

Quite.  I've been running with silicone fluid for four or more years and
haven't touched the brake hydraulics since (except to change the fluid in
the master and renew the shoes recently).  It struck me that this
anti-silicone fluid publicity smacked just a bit of "disinformation".
While silicone manufacturers themselves do not reccommend it for ABS
systems (due to air-entrainment), for the low-tech system on series
vehicles, it is a boon.  With the hygroscopic nature of LMA and a seaside
loaction, I used to rebuild the brakes every three years.

When the vehicle was off the road for a major rebuild over a decade ago, I
made the mistake of cleaning the clutch MC, smearing it with fresh LMA,
putting a paper towel soaked with LMA in the bore and enclosing it in a
plastic bag.  Two year later, the MC was unusable due to extreme corrosion.
 The LMA sucked enough moisture out of the atmosphere to destroy the
aluminium casting...  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "Jason B. Carroll" <carrollj@up.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:30:08 -0700
Subject: That (brake) Pulling Feeling

I have noticed that my 1969 Series IIa 88", has been pulling to the right 
on braking. It appears to happen primarily after it is hot, and can be 
intermittent. The strength of the pull seems to depend on how hard I stab 
the brakes--it's controllable but can be alarming. Any ideas of what I 
should look out for? Thanks.

Jason Carroll
1969 Series IIa V8
Portland, OR

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:38:31 -0400
Subject: Re: That (brake) Pulling Feeling

Check the brake adjustments, and look for a leaking hub seal. Both can
cause brakes to pull.

The other thing to have a look for is a partially frozen wheel cylinder.
Pull the drum and have a confederate (SLOWLY!) push the pedal downward. Do
this on both sides, and look for brake shoes that don't want to move right.

                    ajr

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:53:25 -0500
Subject: RE: volcanoes

Being a "trained" geologist, I've done my time on the UK's moors and =
wilder
parts, albeit on foot.   Our volcanoes are a bit older. Most spectacular
being the Black Cuillins on Skye - only 57 Million Years since it was
active! But then it does mean I've walked inside a magma chamber! :-)

[]  That sounds just great. We have also older ones, cant give you =
numbers, but they are dead. We also have the one with the largest crater =
  []  in the world, the Poas, and it is semi-active still. 

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:02:29 -0700
Subject: RE: volcanoes (no LR)

If I stretch far enough from my desk, I can seem Mt. Baker in Washington
State.  It is dormant now (last erupted in the early nineteenth century)
but can be seen steaming away on cold winter mornings.  The whole
Pacific coast of N.A. C.A. & S.A. is part of the "great ring of fire"
that surrounds the Pacific ocean.  The volcano's in the Pacific
Northwest tend to be the explosive type ala Mt. St. Helen's.  Not much
lava but lots of ash & steam.

Paul in Victoria.

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:36:29 -0500
Subject: RE: volcanoes (no LR)

The active one I talked about is a very recent one. People began hearing =
noises and feeling warmth in the earth around 1964-8, until a little =
hill near the center of town just exploded and lava, ashes and rocks =
came out. Now its hundreds of meters higher and kilometers wider. It is =
called "Arenal", which means "place full of sand". And it sits besides a =
lake.
Offroading is great when your going somewhere.

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:39:02 EDT
Subject: RE: Rover Sighting

In a message dated 4/24/98 11:10:31 AM, you wrote:

> At the end of the "safari" you have the opportunity to see a
>couple of Land Rovers being used as props for the scene.  Unfortunately,
>they are used by the bad guys (poachers), but hey, at least they're
>LR's!.

And they also feature LRs prominently in their TV spots.

BTW, Busch Gardens (Tampa) has an "exhibit" where you get into a SIII, and a
*Tiger* climbs into the other side. You are separated by a sheet of lexan that
bisects the vehicle, just to keep your muddy paws off the tiger! I just can't
figure out where the tiger fits in the "African Safari"...

pat
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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:44:01 EDT
Subject: Re:  Rag top front bar

In a message dated 4/24/98 10:43:19 AM, you wrote:

>Hmmm. I wonder if could convert my RR to a canvas top... Cheers, Andy
>Blackley

Double-dare ya! ;-)

pat
93  110

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:49:44 EDT
Subject: Re:  RE: volcanoes (no LR)

In a message dated 4/24/98 1:41:39 PM, you wrote:

>Offroading is great when your going somewhere.

Now that's something to remember when you are stuck good in the mud!

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From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:07:34 -0400
Subject: Re: The simplest anti theft devices...

Con P. Seitl wrote:
> <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> a.k.a Mohammed Taheri wrote:
> > Are you referring to me?  I've never been to Nairobi, I live in
> > Charlotte, North Carolina, USA..
>  Of course you do.........how's the little teddy? ;-)
> Con Seitl
> 1973 III 88 "Pig"

Little teddy?  I asked that question because my email address is
"mrbeans@bellsouth.net."  After I sent it, I realized that everyone was
talking about the real Mr.Bean in the later emails.  But I really do
live in Charlotte.

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:27:44 +1000
Subject: The simplest anti theft devices...

Con P. Seitl, wrote
>  Mr. Bean was in Nairobi?

OK, I admit it.  When I was younger (17) and drove a 1938 Vauxhall 14hp
Model J, the door locks wouldn't work.  So I used to take the floor shift
gear lever out and lock it in the boot (trunk).

One day I forgot and the car was stolen.  The police couldn't find it.

I did - two weeks later, parked outside the police station where it had been
for those two weeks.  All they took was my new battery.  Was it stolen by a
cop?

I was 17 and I had a near-30 year old car - now we have 15-yo on the list
with a Discovery!  How things have changed.

Now I'll let you in on a little secret.  Don't tell anyone.

On Norfolk Island, noone (except tourists) takes the keys out of their cars.
They leave them in the ignition, doors unlocked.  (Houses are also
unlocked - I'll talk about that later).

One night I went to the airport to see off a visitor from Papua New Guinea.
Then went out to the car park, hopped in my wife's car and drove home (my
company car had been borrowed by one of my staff).

Elisabeth came out as we were heading off to dinner and said "Where's my
car?"

I replied, pointing "There!"

To which she said "That's not my car."

So we jumped in, rushed back to the airport, parked the stolen vehicle and
found hers, hopped in and quickly left.

I found out months later who owned it and apologised to him.  He hadn't
noticed his car had been taken.

Unlocked houses?  Well, Elisabeth was in Sydney and was rushed to hospital,
extremely ill.  I went to the airline next morning and managed to get
tickets for my son and I back to Sydney (the plane was full but 2 people
gave up their seats).  That afternoon we hopped on the plane and left the
Island in a rush.  I forgot to lock the house.

When I got back to the Island 2 weeks later, my lawns were mown, the house
was cleaned, the washing and ironing done, beds made and there was a bowl of
fresh fruit on the dining table.  (This is important - fruit is very
difficult to get, it isn't imported).

Oh, and my car was waiting, washed (and unlocked), at the airport.

That shows why I love the Island and the people there.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia (02) 4735-6883
Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman
for Hillman and Rover

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From: Wil <who@netwizards.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:29:19 -0700
Subject: fwh

>>The best antitheft device I have ever heard suggested on this list wast
>>the one about fitting fre-wheel hubs to all four wheels, and then
>>disengaging these when parking the car - simple, and very effective.

So, what if the thief had a flatbed? Or another Rover with a tow kit?

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:33:17 -0700
Subject: RE: fwh

	>>The best antitheft device I have ever heard suggested on this
list wast
	>>the one about fitting fre-wheel hubs to all four wheels, and
then
	>>disengaging these when parking the car - simple, and very
effective.

Unless you want to park on a hill...

Paul.

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From: mfoster@CHROMALLOY.COM
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:31:36 -0500
Subject: Re:The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

     unsubscribe

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:57:02 -0400
Subject: Re: llA gearbox

It sounds like one of  your syncro springs has broken.If it`s well and truly
jammed in gear take the top off the box and look inside with a flashlight at the
syncro hub particularly at the the three flat spring steel springs.They are
cheap to buy but a royal pain to install since the box has to be pulled.

david j hope wrote:

> Reversing down my short driveway last night to get out to the road the
> gearbox suddenly and violently jumped into third gear and has refused to
> move out of third gear since then.  The clutch is fine and still disengages
> the tranny from the engine, so I had no problem driving back into my garage
> so that I could hide this latest embarrasment from my well to do neighbours
> who already think I'm mad.
> The gearbox is a professionally rebuilt unit with about 100 miles on it.  I
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> Any ideas before I tear into the tranny again?
> David Hope

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:04:48 EDT
Subject: Re:The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest /unsubbing

In a message dated 4/24/98 7:48:08 PM, mfoster@CHROMALLOY.COM wrote:

>     unsubscribe

What do y'all think when you see this message on your screen?

;-)

pat.

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From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:52:25 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest /unsubbing

SPYDERS wrote:
> In a message dated 4/24/98 7:48:08 PM, mfoster@CHROMALLOY.COM wrote:
> >     unsubscribe
> What do y'all think when you see this message on your screen?
> ;-)
> pat.

I think that someone's either sold their Rover, realized that they
couldn't get a Rover, or got tired of the mail.

Mohammed Taheri
'95 Discovery

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From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:58:24 -0400
Subject: brushbar

Hi everyone, it's me again.  I'm about to buy a second Disco :)  This
one doesn't have brushbars, tail-light guards, or running boards, but it
does have mud flaps.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a place or
person that sold any of these items for rather cheap prices.  I don't
mind at all if they're used, as long as they're not ripped, broken, or
discolored.  Thanks!  By the way, I live in the US and don't really want
to pay huge international shipping costs :)

Mohammed Taheri
'95 Discovery

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From: Jarvis 64 <Jarvis64@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:54:59 EDT
Subject: SOLAROS membership?

Hi everyone,
Sorry for the general posting, but I somehow wrote down that SOLAROS address
the other night and now resort to bugging you all.

I need to join (moving to GA very soon).  I can't get on the web (1991 Mac
Classic).  Someone please send me the info (and then I'll join).

Thanks and sorry,
Bill Rice

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From: Jarvis 64 <Jarvis64@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:54:47 EDT
Subject: May 98?!??

I just got the April issue of LRW last week and now I hear you talking about
the May one?!   Maybe I shouldn't have been a cheapskate and gotten air
freight eh?

Bill

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:16:37 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest /unsubbing

In a message dated 4/24/98 8:57:49 PM, you wrote:

>I think that someone's either sold their Rover, realized that they
>couldn't get a Rover, or got tired of the mail.

Yeah, but sending it to the list doesn't end the madness... eventually, all
our mail about FWHs, oil vs. grease and sea-rovers drives them to the point of
pleading...

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:02:52 EDT
Subject: Re:  SOLAROS membership?

SOLIHULL@aol.com

John will help you...

--pat
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From: PScales <pscales@blvl.igs.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:44:56
Subject: Serial numbers and years

>.
A friend has a 109" five door 12-seater, and he thinks it's a Series II or
IIa.  The heater inlet is in the passenger side wing, if that helps.  It is
a Canadian LR.  Anyhow, he gave me the serial number and asked if I could
find out what year the vehicle was produced (it has no title right now).

Serial #26403315E

>From the excellent FAQ, I learned that this eight digit, one letter code
signifies that it is a Series IIA, produced between 1962 and 1979.  But the
FAQ says that there is nothing in the number which gives away the
production year.

Does anyone have a vehicle with a close serial number?  If yes, what year
is your LR?

Can anyone tell me an easier way of doing this?!

Thanks, everyone.

Peter
Trenton, Ontario, Canada
>.

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From: PScales <pscales@blvl.igs.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:43:31
Subject: Serial numbers and years v2

>.
A friend has a 109" five door 12-seater, Series IIa, serial #26403315E

>From Dixon & Benjamin's excellent FAQ, I learned that this eight digit, 
one letter code signifies that it is a Series IIA, produced between 1962
and 1979.  I've read another page on the FAQ, and have learned that "E"
started in March 1968.  Anybody got any info which can narrow the date
further?

Peter
Trenton, Ontario, Canada
>.

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From: PScales <pscales@blvl.igs.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:46:02
Subject: Re: She's running again! 

At 10:22 AM 4/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Well, after plugging a few leaks in the Solex & trouble shooting a bad
>LT ignition circuit, my 1961 Series II is purring like a kitten!
>.
Congrats, Paul!  My 1959 purrs like a kitten (a loud, diesel kitten), but
still doesn't have any brakes.  My success will come on that wondrous date
(after the new footwells are welded in, etc) when I can actually come to a
stop!

Peter
Trenton, Ontario
>.

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:46:34 EDT
Subject: Re:  Serial numbers and years

In a message dated 4/24/98 10:34:09 PM, you wrote:

>Serial #26403315E
>From the excellent FAQ, I learned that this eight digit, one letter code
>signifies that it is a Series IIA, produced between 1962 and 1979.

1979? That's a new IIa to me... I thought IIa's ended with the intro of III's,
or is that not quite right; due to things like Santana extending the life of a
series, foreign ckd assemblies, etc.

--pat

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From: Jarvis 64 <Jarvis64@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:07:05 EDT
Subject: Re:  Serial numbers and years

Peter,
My 109 is SN26405933B  and it's registered as a 69, but I've been told on good
authority that that's wrong and it's really a '64.  I understand there's a
book out there w/ every SN listed in it, listing country for which the vehicle
was manuf. etc.
 
Mine has no vent in the wing, so yours is either newer (I don't think so) or
the wing isn't original.  Or someone cut a hole in it.

Bill

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From: jimellis@primenet.com (jim ellis)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:19:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Newbie-wannabe in Arizona

I'd like to introduce myself and genuflect before the masses.

My name is Jim Ellis of Phoenix, AZ. My wife, Paula, and I have been very
involved in the location, rescue, restoration AND daily usage of pre-1968
Volkswagen buses for quite awhile. Our latest effort is a complete and total
restoration of a 1967 pop-top Westfalia camper bus. It and our Eriba Puck
caravan trailer was recently photographed for an upcoming issue of "Dune
Buggies and Hot VWs."
Natural progression of our interests in camping and traveling lead me to
research Dormobiles in general, VW Kombi's (buses) specifically and
eventually Landies! I have been looking for a 4x4 camper that would allow us
to get into areas where the VW shouldnt be or couldn't go.

We are searching for a IIa Dorm. A few initial contacts have been made. If
you can lead me to one it would be appreciated. Newbies on the VW bus email
list usually ask for the rarest vehicle and quote a budget for the rattiest,
most common offerings. I wish to avoid this faux pas with out becoming a
jail cell date. The ideal would be pre-'68 for emissions purposes if a
future V8 convertion is to be done. Keep in mind that, in general, I try
very hard to be a Vintage guy. 

Look for us in our green and white VW Westfalia at the starting point of the
Flagstaff event in June!

Contact me via private mail if you can help.
Thanks,
Jim (and Paula) Ellis
Phoenix, AZ

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From: jory bell <jory@mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:23:58 -0700
Subject: Re: llA gearbox

i know of at least one rover mechanic who replces these in situ. having
done the job myself (and pulling the box) i can't imagine successfully
doing it myself.

>It sounds like one of  your syncro springs has broken.If it`s well and truly
>jammed in gear take the top off the box and look inside with a flashlight
>at the
>syncro hub particularly at the the three flat spring steel springs.They are
>cheap to buy but a royal pain to install since the box has to be pulled.

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From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:12:56 -0600
Subject: Weird Characters

If you are using Outlook Express, and get HTML at the end of your messages.

Click "Tools"
Click "Options"
Click "Send"
on the first group click "Plain Text"

This should solve it.

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