1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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| 1 | "Ron Franklin" [oldhaven | 22 | 109 FS |
| 2 | john cranfield [john.cra | 8 | Re: Tell us your Name. |
| 3 | john cranfield [john.cra | 10 | Re: Using the cracked distributor |
| 4 | "Con P. Seitl" [seitl@ns | 22 | Re: Using the cracked distributor |
| 5 | LndRvr SC [LndRvrSC@aol. | 16 | Tires |
| 6 | john cranfield [john.cra | 15 | Re: Tires |
| 7 | trowe@cdr.wisc.edu | 29 | re: Tires |
| 8 | "Paul Gussack" [pcg@tenn | 9 | rover name |
| 9 | "C. Marin Faure" [faurec | 30 | In response to Jim's reply about diesels... |
| 10 | "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" | 49 | Zenith question |
| 11 | "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" | 49 | Zenith question |
| 12 | "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" | 26 | Welding |
| 13 | "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" | 21 | Oils well.... |
| 14 | Solihull@aol.com | 22 | Re: Series 3 2.25 L diesel - should I buy |
| 15 | "William L. Leacock" [wl | 9 | dipstick |
| 16 | "William L. Leacock" [wl | 13 | oil splash |
| 17 | "William L. Leacock" [wl | 23 | Stuck in 4 wd |
| 19 | "Ron Beckett" [hillman@b | 9 | Dingleberries |
| 20 | "Ron Beckett" [hillman@b | 25 | Using the cracked distributor |
| 21 | "Ron Beckett" [hillman@b | 42 | Tell us your Name |
| 22 | "David and Cynthia Walke | 18 | Re: Tell us your Name. |
| 23 | Ralph N Bradt [rnbradt@e | 20 | Oil filter adapters |
| 24 | "Ron Beckett" [hillman@b | 28 | Watch out for your rear mounted tyres |
| 25 | "Ron Beckett" [hillman@b | 22 | Buying a SWB 2.25 diesel |
From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:03:49 -0500 Subject: 109 FS 1959 Series II 109 pickup, not running but in very good original condition, including lots of features like 1 piece doors, large horn in fender, horn push on steering column, arctic interior, screw type vents etc. Frame is original and quite good with basically surface rust. Very minor footwell rust. Seats need to be redone, body panels are very good but unrestored. Needs wiring harness. Includes 1 and 1/2 series II engines. Also includes a new Series II through the fender exhaust system. This 109 needs a lot of restoration work to be perfect but is a very rare example of an early S II for the originality fan. $4000.00. It was owned by a Maine guide and has been stored inside for over 20 years. Located near Brunswick in my barn, mid coast Maine. 207-666-5614 Ron Franklin Bowdoin, Maine, USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 09:42:38 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Tell us your Name.
Are you really sure you want to know all those names
Well I'll never divulge that information.
John and Muddy :-)
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 09:45:49 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Using the cracked distributor
I am going to warn Tom about getting a new distributor cap from You!!!!
And in order to beat some one through the water first you have to have a
Working Land Rover .Get the Pigg fixed.... NOW.
Good morning Con.
John and Mddy
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]Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:11:04 -0800 From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Using the cracked distributor john cranfield wrote: > I am going to warn Tom about getting a new distributor cap from You!!!! Uhh, yeah, Tom, that's who was going to get it. ;-) > And in order to beat some one through the water first you have to have a > Working Land Rover .Get the Pigg fixed.... NOW. We are going to crawl under it this morning in the mud and fix the starter wire, maybe put a heavier cable on it. The old one just lit right up, very pretty! Wish I could get someway of cranking by hand, but the winch is in the way :-( See ya! Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LndRvr SC <LndRvrSC@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 09:33:25 EST Subject: Tires Hi all, I stopped by a guys shop here in Columbia yesterday. He has 6 series Land Rovers and 1 forward control restored. One was a Camel Trophy series (88). The has an auto restoration shop. WOW. Does anyone know where you can get the 900 X 16 military Tires for the forward control? They are mare by Continental. He wants to replace these. Cheers, Greg Edwards 95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:50:09 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Tires
LndRvr SC wrote:
> Hi all,
> I stopped by a guys shop here in Columbia yesterday. He has 6 series Land
> Rovers and 1 forward control restored. One was a Camel Trophy series (88).
> The has an auto restoration shop. WOW. Does anyone know where you can get
> the 900 X 16 military Tires for the forward control? They are mare by
> Continental. He wants to replace these.
He could try at http://www.wadewallace.com/
John and Muddy
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]From: trowe@cdr.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:41:19 -0600 Subject: re: Tires From: Tom Rowe@CDR on 02-28-98 10:41 AM cc: Subject: re: Tires snip >he has an auto restoration shop. WOW. Does anyone know where you can get >the 900 X 16 military Tires for the forward control? They are mare by >Continental. He wants to replace these. I believe general also makes them. I have a catalog at home that has them in it. They are the US style NDT though. Tom Rowe Network Systems Administrator WI Center for Dairy Research Madison, WI 608-265-6194 Fax: 608-262-1578 trowe@cdr.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 09:56:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg@tennis.org> Subject: rover name My rover as per it being an ugly little Anglican monster is Grendal. Paul G SIII SWB "Grendal" ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:29:02 -0800 From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com> Subject: In response to Jim's reply about diesels... From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: : In response to Jim's reply about diesels... Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:26:40 +1100 >>Marin Faure wrote: >>This has been proven to me time and again in the de Havilland Beaver >> floatplanes I fly; vehicles are no different. >>marin.faure@boeing.com >Do you fly Beavers because you like 'em (I do) or because Boeing now own >DHC? I fly the Beaver because I like the plane and because it's the only one that will carry the stuff I have to carry. While Boeing did purchase de Havilland of Canada back in the 1980s it proved to be a costly mistake and we subsequently sold DHC a number of years ago. The current owner is Bombardier. ________________________ C. Marin Faure (original owner) 1973 Land Rover Series III-88 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE Seattle, WA ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:38:39 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Zenith question
Steve Irwin <irwin@fred.ifas.ufl.edu> wrote:
>First post to the list, after 1.5 years of lurking.
>I have a 1973 SIII 88 with Zenith carb. I have owned it for about a
>year. The weekend of Jan 24, I undertook a carb rebuild/cleaning....
>Rover ran fine for about another week, then started talling at lights.
As a veteran of the Zenith campaigns, let's assume that the jets, float
level, o-ring and gasketing are correct. Two items left that will produce
these symptoms. A warped carb (which can be cured with the glass-plate
grinding trick) or one of the ports has come unplugged. The Zenith is a
generic carb, in that it fits several vehicles and one of the ports on the
flange between the carb halves *must* be plugged. In your case, the soak
and subsequent driving may have dislodged whatever gunge or plug that was
correctly stopping it up. Look at the top flange of the bottom half.
You'll see two ports 1 cm apart. Plug the one that is almost vertical over
top of the vacuum port to the distributor. A chunk of scrap O-ring smeared
with Permatex #1 or 2 (*NOT* silicone or RTV) works well.
While you're at it and have the carb apart, you may want to try to grind
the halves flat. Put a piece of 400-600 grit carborundum paper on a glass
plate which ensures its absolutely flat. Swirl the carb body on the plate
being careful to do each half equally or the o-ring won't work anymore.
When you get shine marks all around, you're done.
Another possibility is that the brake servo diaphragm has been perforated,
and when you hit the brakes hard, it dumps a whole lotta air down the
throat *behind* the carb and leans the flow out to the point where the
engine starves. Suck on the brake booster hose (high tech: a vacuum pump,
low tech: lungs). Any appreciable flow or a whistling sound and the servo
is toast. Unfortunately, it is non-serviceable. Rebuild kits haven't been
available since '74. Cheers
Cheers
*----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
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| Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. |
| Association of North American Rover Clubs |
| 1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 |
|(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
*----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:38:37 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Zenith question
Steve Irwin <irwin@fred.ifas.ufl.edu> wrote:
>First post to the list, after 1.5 years of lurking.
>I have a 1973 SIII 88 with Zenith carb. I have owned it for about a
>year. The weekend of Jan 24, I undertook a carb rebuild/cleaning....
>Rover ran fine for about another week, then started talling at lights.
As a veteran of the Zenith campaigns, let's assume that the jets, float
level, o-ring and gasketing are correct. Two items left that will produce
these symptoms. A warped carb (which can be cured with the glass-plate
grinding trick) or one of the ports has come unplugged. The Zenith is a
generic carb, in that it fits several vehicles and one of the ports on the
flange between the carb halves *must* be plugged. In your case, the soak
and subsequent driving may have dislodged whatever gunge or plug that was
correctly stopping it up. Look at the top flange of the bottom half.
You'll see two ports 1 cm apart. Plug the one that is almost vertical over
top of the vacuum port to the distributor. A chunk of scrap O-ring smeared
with Permatex #1 or 2 (*NOT* silicone or RTV) works well.
While you're at it and have the carb apart, you may want to try to grind
the halves flat. Put a piece of 400-600 grit carborundum paper on a glass
plate which ensures its absolutely flat. Swirl the carb body on the plate
being careful to do each half equally or the o-ring won't work anymore.
When you get shine marks all around, you're done.
Another possibility is that the brake servo diaphragm has been perforated,
and when you hit the brakes hard, it dumps a whole lotta air down the
throat *behind* the carb and leans the flow out to the point where the
engine starves. Suck on the brake booster hose (high tech: a vacuum pump,
low tech: lungs). Any appreciable flow or a whistling sound and the servo
is toast. Unfortunately, it is non-serviceable. Rebuild kits haven't been
available since '74. Cheers
Cheers
*----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
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| A. P. ("Sandy") Grice |
| Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. |
| Association of North American Rover Clubs |
| 1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 |
|(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
*----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:19:04 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Welding
>Ben Nibali, somewhere in East Tennessee, wrote:
>Also- I'm planning to do this with an Oxy-Acetylene rig, but I believe
>that most people MIG it- any comments?
Gas is fine, but you'll be dealing with surprisingly thin sections (it gets
strength from the box-section, not mass) and MIG has quicker/better heat
control over the arc. Plus, once you get the heat setting just right, you
cna really lay down the beads with a MIG.
Just make sure you have plenty of wire (from someone who ran out at 3PM on
a beautiful *warm* Saturday in February).... :-(
*----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
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| A. P. ("Sandy") Grice |
| Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. |
| Association of North American Rover Clubs |
| 1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 |
|(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
*----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:25:52 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Oils well....
WRT the thread on "spalsh" lubrication, I don't think that's the only way
up. As I racall on my last rebuild, the con rod had a little squirt hole
on one "shoulder" that would spray the cylinder walls. There was also a
passage up inside the con rod so that the wrist pin could be supplied from
the oil pumped to the journals.
Stuck in the office on a Saturday...Cheers
*----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
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| A. P. ("Sandy") Grice |
| Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. |
| Association of North American Rover Clubs |
| 1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 |
|(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
*----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*
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]From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:33:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Series 3 2.25 L diesel - should I buy No, you'll never be satisfied after a 4.6. So forget it! One other thing, If I send ya a check right now, could you pick it up for me, and I'll drive down next weekend and tow it home. ;-) Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA (never been spoiled by too much power in a Rover) KF4NAS LROA #1095 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation "Old 502" Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say: Land Rovers for Agriculture! Land Rovers for Industry! Land Rovers for Recreation! Land Rovers forever!! D.V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:40:38 -0500 From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Subject: dipstick Ben. put the prescribed amount of oil in the sump and adjust the dipstick height to the level, add a clip to the stick to set the level. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:49:11 -0500 From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Subject: oil splash Ya gotta splash oil up into cylinders. This is the only way. Cheers Peter -106 LR con rods have some small holes in them which directs oil spray from the big end journal up into the bore, providing they have been fitted the right way round, ( the rods, not the bores ) Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:01:43 -0500 From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Subject: Stuck in 4 wd John asks for advise on how to unstick from 4 wd. How often is 4 wd drive used on your vehicle ? A common problem on gearboxes which are seldom used in 4 wd is found in the transfer box. the 4 wd dog is fitted to a spring returned shaft ( unless the selector mod has been made ) the rod protrudes from the front of the gearbox, just above where the front drive shaft is fitted. The shaft extension is normally covered by a metal shroud. It is not uncomon for the shaft to stick in the bore, particularly if it is not used, if it cannot move freely then the spring does not have enough force to overcome the friction. Thjis problem is often found on LR's that have never been off roaded. Removal of the floor plate gives access to the area, iit is necessary to remove the yellow 4 wd selector arm whiuch oivots on the front of the gearbox, the cover can be removed giving access to the shaft whence some kind of lubricant, anti sieze etc can be applied to free upo the shaft. Whilst on the subject fitting a selector to this shaft enables an easier method of 2 to 4 wheel drive selection. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: Dingleberries Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:57:17 +1000 OK, I've read the description. Gross! I'm sorry I asked. Ron ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: Using the cracked distributor Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:59:41 +1000 >I thought about returning it, but I've had it a number of years and the >box it came in looks a bit crusty. The cap looks like it was made >yesterday. Go and buy a new one, swap boxes and take the "old" new one back. BUT only if you buy it from the same shop as you originally bought the faulty one. And not from some one on the list - they'll know! Ron Beckett Emu Plains, NSW, Australia '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila) '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: Tell us your Name Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:03:02 +1000 Tom Rowe wrote: >My friends (?) in VT started calling mine the Antichrist back in '86 >when I received the license plates (by chance) of 6A666. When I was in Norfolk Island, the local Catholic priest's car had 666 as the number (they only use 3-digit plates - there's only about 1700 people on the Island.).. His PO box number was also 666. Rover content. My Rangie is called The Last Aquila. When I had the dash out last year I found a label behind the dash saying "The Last Aquila". "Aquila" was the LR code name for my model Rangie and I'm assuming mine was the last one built. I have yet to write to LR to ask. Ron Beckett Emu Plains, NSW, Australia '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila) '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover Ron Beckett Emu Plains, NSW, Australia '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila) '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tell us your Name. Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 22:53:36 -0800 My Land Rover is named "BEAN TOAD" - say the words out loud, not just in your head. This is actually Bean Toad II, but it is the same vehicle. I towed the Land Rover (seldom, now days) behind our 17,000 # bus "THE MOOSE". I used to post a sign in the rear window when under tow, now it is in large letters on the rear window. It just stuck, a bit of wit. The MOOSE sits parked for most of the year but Bean Toad is a daily driver. Cheers David Stay at Home Father 1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD" Ural Motorcycle - S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:03:46 MST From: Ralph N Bradt <rnbradt@earthlink.net> Subject: Oil filter adapters So, what's the word on spin on oil filter adapters for 2.25 engines? What sources are they available from and what are the pros and cons? And what would it be likely to cost? The stock setup provides the messiest oil changing experience I've ever had to deal with. I've done it plenty of times, but I'd welcome a better alternative. Ralph If you don't see drips underneath, it's time to top off the fluids. ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: Watch out for your rear mounted tyres Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:22:57 +1000 Sorry for the cross posting but at the January meeting of the Land Rover Owners Club in Sydney (OZ), 5 members had their rear mounted spare wheels stolen. It appears that one really should have a lock fitted. Interestingly, they didn't take the plastic Land Rover wheel centres nor the wheel covers So if you see a Rover with 5 different pattern treads..... Ron Beckett Emu Plains, NSW, Australia '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila) '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: Buying a SWB 2.25 diesel Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 20:22:39 +1000 Would someone give me an idea of expected fuel economy for a Series III SWB 2.25 diesel, please? What should I look for, mechanically, in one of these motors? Ron Beckett Emu Plains, NSW, Australia '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila) '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980301 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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