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From: Ian Otty <imo@kerridge.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 12:29:02 BST
Subject: Freelander vs others

reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) wrote:

the 
>Freelander is far superior to the Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi... 
SUV's. 
> I wish it every success also, but it is competition for the RAV4 
>crowd, not the 4Runner, Montero... crowd.

Geoffrey, I agree that for off-roading there are better vehicles 
than the Freelander (although I haven't driven a freelander yet!) 
but my point was that unlike you, me or anybody on this list there 
are people who desire the looks of a chunky off-roader but will 
never use them in anger off-road. I think that LR have built the 
Freelander especially for them. I believe it will be more 
economical, quicker and handle better on road than the current 
generation of 4WD's as well as being safer in a crash. I know in 
the UK there are thousands of big 4WD's that never venture off the 
tarmac, not even onto muddy tracks.

Also in a fair test of such vehicles the emphasis should be more 
tarmac biased - fuel economy, acceleration, handling etc - things 
not normally associated with real off-roaders.

Ian Otty

SWB series3 hybrid

  

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From: tim harincar <harincar@camworks.com>
Subject: Voltage Regulators - protection?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:53:18 -0500

Hey everyone,

Is there a way to protect the voltage regulator in a IIa? It seems in my =
truck the smallest electrical hiccup blows the damn thing. And at $60 a =
throw, that's a pretty expensive fuse, especially with Lucas running the =
show. OTOH, I've never actually blown one of the two fuses. I've been =
going through about one VR a year since I bought the beast. And its not =
like I have a lot of mixed up wiring or anything. Its the original =
harness and in a lot of places I can still see the original colors, and =
I have no accessories to speak of.

Tim
---
tim harincar
harincar@camworks.com
'66 IIa 88 SW
http://www.pconline.com/~harincar/

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:19:18 +0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Jos=E9_Luis_Trisotti_C.=22?="  <jtrisott@reuna.cl>
Subject: Camel 98

Hi LR Fans :

Yes , the Ca..l ( sorry I dont smoke )Trophy 98 will be in Chile , Last week
I went to the LR genuine workshop and there I saw 4 vehicles 2 disco and two
defender , ready for this event. 
I am investigeiting about it .
I hope to participate with my new restored Serie I 80" 1953 ( smile.... )

From

Chile Southamerica

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:19:45 -0400
From: Keith Mohlenhoff <krm@nj.paradyne.com>
Subject: Trek 97 ?

Hello;
Friday night I saw three yellow Range ROvers driving north on NJ route
287, I was in my 63 IIA Safari. I didn't get to wave at the first two, I
was in shock, but I did get to wave at the third who was already waving
to me

The Rovers had Trek 97 stickers and lots of other decals. Any clue what
Trek 97 is. I know I live in a hole, I'm just wondering how deep.

My kids and I were going camping in the Catskills. The weekend was
great, no rain, no trips to the hospital and nothing broke

Keith R. Mohlenhoff

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:53:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Off Road Fun Weekend

     Following several requests for further information on the Breckland Land
Rover Club's
fun weekend at Bircham Newton (Construction Industry Training Board site) on
October 25/26th Here is a second post giving more details for all.    

    The fun weekend is open to none club members from 10am each day, but will
cost you #5 per vehicle for admission to the site and #2 per run on the
course (a run can last an hour or more). Camping is availiable at no extra
cost but ONLY FOR ARC CLUB MEMBERS. This I am told is due to the new
camping/caravaning planning permission exemption certificate rules (members
must show there membership cards). Hunstanton is only 10 miles away with
Heacham or Dersingham even closer so any none ARC members wishing to camp,
Caravan or even stay in a guest house should have plenty of choice.

   The weekend is being sponsored by RPI Engineering who are putting up #100
in prize money for participants in a series of simple challenges around the
course. I believe it will be broken down into #50 First, #30 Second, and #20
third place, with a token donation to charity requested to play.

   We are hoping to have a few trade stands, burger bar, etc. and a beer tent
with band on the Saturday night to help make it a more interesting weekend.
Tuition for the inexperienced will be available from club members, again in
return for a small contribution to the charity fund. The course will include
alternative routes at the discretion of the drivers to challenge the more
adventurous, yet leave a safe none damaging route for the less adventurous.
Marshals covering all major obstacles on the course will also offer advise.
Children are welcome as long as they are supervised and safely strapped in to
the vehicles whilst on the course. Dogs can also be brought along again as
long as they are under control.

   Bircham Newton can be found on O/S sheet No 132 at ref 789336. That's past
Kings Lynn on the A148 then turn left onto the B1153 to Great Bircham, then
right onto the B1155 which takes you past the site. It will be signed
locally.

Anyone wishing to know more please dont hesitate to Email me direct, but at
this stage I know no more than is listed above.

   Look forward to seeing you there.
(I am the bearded guy with the Lightweight/Range Rover Hybrid on yellow
wheels)

Mike Rogers    

                                               

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:50:52 -0400
From: chrisbrowne@minet.com (Chris Browne)
Subject: Bay State Rover - Fall Heritage

     
     Ok folks, just trying to nail down numbers of people heading to 
     BSROA's Fall Heritage so we can plan on food etc. If you've 
     signed up already thank you, if not I need to hear from you asap! 
     
     Please email me here!
     
     Thanks

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Roof Rack For Sale
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:29:55 +0000

      I have a full length galvanized roof rack for a swb for sale.
Pick up in Albany, NY
$375.00  
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:09:32 -0400
From: reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoffrey Reynolds)
Subject: Second Monthly Boston Area Get Together

Where: John Harvard's Brew House in Framingham

When: Wednesday, October 8th

Time: 7:30PM

If anyone wants to get together earlier, let me know and I'll be sure 
to be there (as early as 5PM).

Directions (courtesy of Chris Browne):

>From 128 north or south:

Take the Mass pike west to exit 13 (about 6 miles) labeled "Natick 
Framingham Rt 30".  Toll is 30 cents (70 cents if coming from Boston 
on the Pike).

After toll booth go right on rt 30 towards Framingham.  Through first 
light.  At next light turn left and JHBH is on the right.  REI is on 
the left.

For a new building its hidden behind some trees and not well marked or 
lit.  Parking all around the building both on Rt 30 and the Framingham 
Mall.

>From Route 9:

Framingham Mall backs on to Route 9 East, you just have to drive 
through the mall (Barnes & Noble, Bob Stores, We've just beaten the 
wiz (they closed down) etc to get to JHBH.

Based on our parking experience last month, I would recommend parking 
in the Framingham Mall lot instead of the private lot for John 
Harvard's (which is rather small).

Hope to see lots of you there!

Jeff Reynolds
1995 Beluga Black Discovery
Rovers North Roof Rack
4 Hella Rallye 4000's
1 Hella Work Lamp

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 30 Sep 97 11:23:44 MST
Subject: Chirping noise...

From: <debrown@srp.gov>
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
Someone reported a chirping sound with the front hubs locked??

Check the front U-joints. Sounds like one's dry.

Good luck, Dave Brown

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:44:02 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
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here am I, brought up in England in the good old days of illogical
imperial measurements, bought my first beer by the firkin, tanked my
first car by the gallon, and even today remember something about 98.4°F
being healthy.

After 15 years in metricated europe, I am about to make my first trip to
the new world - I order a weather report (Alaska) and suddenly realise
that Fahrenheit is russian to me.

So question is - anyone have the simple, ready to remember formula for
converting F to C? I can see that Anchorage yesterday was between 32 and
42 - what's that - just above zero C by my book?

Help!
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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:10:24 -0700

>From the Land Rover Service Guide page 109

Fahrenheit to Celsius (Centigrade)
Subtract 32, multiply by 0.5555

ie 42F =3D 5.55C

Paul

ps Expect *lots* of rain and possibly snow this time of year!

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>So question is - anyone have the simple, ready to remember formula for
>converting F to C? I can see that Anchorage yesterday was between 32 =
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From: "Lowe, Dave J" <LoweDJ@BP.com>
Subject: RE: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 15:20:19 -0400

Adrian,

As and Alaskan living in Anchorage and working in Colombia the past
year, and working as and engineer in the oil industry, I constantly =
have
to make the coversions.  Here is the formula:

F=3D9/5C + 32

or

C=3D (F-32)5/9

Two key piont to remember

0 C  =3D 32 F  Freezing point of water
100 C =3D 212 F  Boiling point of water at sea level

By having these two points, you can always derive the formula by
calculating the slope and intercept of a line by regressing C on the y
axis with F on the x axis of a xy plot.

hope that helps,

Dave Lowe

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> From: 	Adrian Redmond[SMTP:channel6@post2.tele.dk]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, September 30, 1997 11:44 AM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
>
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> to
> the new world - I order a weather report (Alaska) and suddenly =
realise
> that Fahrenheit is russian to me.
>
> So question is - anyone have the simple, ready to remember formula =
for
> converting F to C? I can see that Anchorage yesterday was between 32
> and
> 42 - what's that - just above zero C by my book?
>
> Help!
> --
> Adrian Redmond
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:25:56 -0800
From: "Deanna D. Sitter" <lani@Alaska.NET>
Subject: Parts in Alaska

Dave Lowe was inquiring about parts in Alaska.

  There is a guy in Fairbanks, Guy Satley (spelling may be wrong) who
has somewhere between 12 and 20 series vehicles in various states of
disrepair.  I have met him once and although he had no working vehicles
and didn't seem to be trying to get any working, his collection is dear
to him and it would take serious coin to pry parts from him. This was
several years ago, his attitude may have changed but I don't have a
number for him.

In Wasilla there is a guy named Steve Booth who has several vehicles, he
also is a reluctant seller and prices acordingly.  The Mary-Rose Trevor
of Ontario referred to is, I believe, Mary-Rose Clark, her husband is
Carl.  Unless they are getting rid of their vehicles They probably don't
have any spares.

I haven't been in touch with any of these people in several years so
their status may have changed.  Guy in Fairbanks would probably be your
best bet but don't get your hopes up.  Information could probably supply
his number.

If you get really hard up I have a tranny out of an early IIA.  It
definately needs a rebuild and has the less desireable high first gear
ratio (it is a suffix B).  I don't have any extra T-cases.  I'm swimming
in extra 2.25 engines and have some good diff stuff as well as misc.
parts from a '65 109 and '73 88 I dismantled several years ago.  My
philosophy on selling parts is either it's a part I want to keep, in
which case I wont sell it, or it's in my way and priced accordingly.

Tim Sitter
Peters Creek, AK

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:13:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: spark plugs

 philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be  writes
anybody knows what could be the reason that I've destroyed after only 2500
km one of my (very expensive 24 V water resistant, no-radio-interference)
spark plugs ?

 The ignition circuit on a 24 volt land rover is in fact 12 volt. Mounted on
top of the rocker cover is a black box, approx 75 mm square and 150 mm long.
This is a voltage dropper. The coil is 12 volt. The ffr and waterproof
ignition system can be used on a 12 volt vehicle, the coil can be replaced
with a standard 12 volt coil, the only complication is the wiring connections.
 The spark plugs are usually very expensive and for this reason the
distributor and plugs are often change d for the conventional version, if
you cut the cap off the coil there are screw connections underneath for
normal wiring connnections. If you make this change it is also necessary to
add a vacuum advance pipe and drill out the solder filling of the connection
on the carburretor.
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:22:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: 3 litre

dave lowe asks about the 3 litre rover engine 
 The 3 litre six cylinder Rover engine is a superb conversion for a 2.6 109.
Use the flywheel off of a 2 1/4 petrol and it is a simple bolting job, use
the LR exhaust manifold. The flywheel housing will bolt up directly to the
six cylinder gearbox. Only complication is the air cleaner.
  If the engines are in vehicles the 3.9 differentials fitted to the 3 litre
will make a good upgrade to the gearing to use the extra power very
effectively. From memeory the output of a MK 2 3 litre is arund 50 % more
than the LR 2.6 at around 130 hp.
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: "Lowe, Dave J" <LoweDJ@BP.com>
Subject: RE: 3 litre
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:50:32 -0400

Bill,

Thanks for the feedback on the Rover 3 liter sedan engine in place of
the 2.6 Land Rover.  As I recall, the cars ID plate identified it as a
Rover 3000, Mk III.  Is that possible and would it make for an even
higher performance engine than the Mk II you referred to?  Do you know
if there is a difference in bore or stroke or both on the 3.0 versus the
2.6 engine.  Can you tell me where I can find the specs on the 3.0 liter
engine?

Do the Rover Sedan 3.9 diffs transfer directly into the Land Rover?
What about axle shafts?  I do have two sedans I can get both engines,
and diffs out of.  They both have automatic transmissions.  Does that
require me to get a different flywheel housing to bolt up the 2.6 bell
housing and trans to?

Also, is the 2.6 Liter trans any different from any other SIIA trans
other than the bell housing?

Thanks,

Dave Lowe

> ----------
> From: 	William L. Leacock[SMTP:wleacock@pipeline.com]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, September 30, 1997 1:22 PM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	3 litre

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> Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
> 89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:22:05 -0400
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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:13:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:  Re: 1st valve adjust addendum 

>>The plugs are out, the valve cover gasket is off, cleaned and the new
gasket
>>is glued on and waiting for the glue to set, right?

That's glued to the *valve cover*, y'all!  Not the head. An old habit I
retain from my aircooled VW days. Seems to keep it from slipping. I also
dimple the gasket surface on the cover with a pin punch; same reason.

Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:06:56 +0900
From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net>
Subject: Re: Parts in Alaska

Deanna D. Sitter wrote:
> Dave Lowe was inquiring about parts in Alaska.
>   There is a guy in Fairbanks, Guy Satley (spelling may be wrong) who
> has somewhere between 12 and 20 series vehicles in various states of
> disrepair.  I have met him once and although he had no working vehicles
> and didn't seem to be trying to get any working, his collection is dear
> to him and it would take serious coin to pry parts from him. This was

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> Tim Sitter
> Peters Creek, AK
Tim,
	I'm currently restoring a 1967 109 SW and will need LOTS of parts(It
was a basket case but the guy gave it to me). I've got the frame fixed,
and now I'm starting on the drivetrain.  I'll yell at you when I'm ready
for some stuff.  (unless you have some 3.54 diffs!)
Thanks, 
-- 
Winn Bearden
P.O. Box 464
Americus, GA 31709
912-924-6513 (H)
912-928-4984 (CELL)

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:54:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Latest LROI and Being Smug

When I read that articleabout the Red Rover I also wondered about the point
of it, which seems to be more illustrative of what not to do, intentionaly so
or not. I think that there are far more opportunities for that type of event
(trials) in Britain there here, and if someone wants to run down the road and
have a go at the local trials course, more power to them. So Our Faithful
Correspondents get themselves a cheap beater (would that we had some of those
here - theyd be cherished!) and go for it. The results are probably not
unlike those experienced by some of us in the past.Back in old days I used to
race dirt bikes and pushing a broken bike out of the mud back to the pits
teaches a lesson about preparation. 
So, having read the artice and feeling smug about my sorted out ride,
 yesterday I experienced the horror of smoke in the cabin of my 83 RR! The
left headlight harness on my truck burned itself out too! Lest someone think
that a sympathic curse is in operation here, it turns out that maybe I didnt
learn the old lessons so well. During my recent engine rebuild I had
neglected to properly secure the fog light relay during the reassembly, which
was bolted to the radiator shell, but which I just allowed to dangle in my
hurry to get the job done. I'll see to it later I thought. Well a week later
it moved against the radiator, shorted itself out and fried the headlamp
harness too. Lucky for me it stopped there. Also lucky that I had a  wiring
harness I stripped out of a 78 MGB parts car with a good headlamp harness.
The wires are color coded the same even. Maybe Ill learn someday. Doubt it.
Cheers. Andy Blackley 

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:55:51 -0400
From: Jeff Goldman <roverboy@gis.net>
Subject: Anyone need parts moved?

	If anyone needs some parts moved, I'm going to be renting a 6'x12' U-Haul
trailer this weekend to carry stuff from Belleville, Ontario to Boston, MA.
Thing is, it'll be very empty from Boston to Belleville. Anyone needing
something moved between Boston, MA and Rochester, NY and then Rochester, NY
to Belleville, Ontario, and possibly (space permitting) Belleville, Ontario
to Boston, MA let me know and we can work something out.
	My route takes me from Newton, MA (Metro West of Boston), to Rochester via
I90. From Rochester I take I-90 to I81 into Canada where I'll hook up with
401. Check out the route through Mapquest at http://www.mapquest.com.
Rochester, NY is in central northern New York state between Buffalo and
Syracuse. Belleville is literally almost due north across Lake Ontario. My
route takes me along the eastern coast of the lake.
	The trailer is an enclosed U-Haul trailer that measures 11'7" x 6' x 5'5".
The door aperture is 5' x 4'10".
	Due to time constraints, I cannot veer terribly off my route, sorry. If
this of interest to anyone please contact me. The dates I'll be going are
Friday to Sunday.

Jeff G.

Boston, MA
1971 88" Series IIA Land Rover
1990 Range Rover County (ask about parts)
1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
1991 Range Rover Hunter 

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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:28:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: pscales@blvl.igs.net (P.S.)
Subject: Boston to Belleville

>If anyone needs some parts moved, I'm going to be renting a 6'x12' U-Haul
>trailer this weekend to carry stuff from Belleville, Ontario to Boston.
>Jeff G.

Hey Jeff,
        I wish I'd known earlier!  I am 10 miles from Belleville, and would
love to ride along.  I need replacement footwells for me '59 Series II, plus
a full set of rear leaf springs and a rear crossmember with the 18"
extensions.   Do you have any of this stuff, or does anyone in Boston have
any of it that Jeff could bring to me for a reasonable cost?

Peter
CFB Trenton

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From: SFmms@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 02:31:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: No digest

Anyone else having problems getting their lro Digest? 

Karen Sindir
'74 SIII 88

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Date: Wed,  1 Oct 97 07:47:28    
From: Steve Mace <steve@solwise.demon.co.uk>
Subject: RE: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE 

I don't want to seem picky but the correct term is Celsius NOT Centigrade!

Centigrade denotes any 100 point scale measuring anything. Celsius means temperature.

On the F scale water freezes and 32 and boils at 212. On the C scale water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 so 1F = 0.55C. To convert just multiply the F's by 0.55 after taking off the 32 offset so...

e.g.

30F = (30-32)x0.55C = -1.11C

and the other way round...

30C = 30/0.55 + 32F = 86.5F

You can trust me; I'm a Doctor!

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Fax: +44 1482 472245
Date: 01/10/97
Time: 07:47:28
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From: Bruce Denney <bruce@lesleyjames.demon.co.uk>
Subject: help
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:26:07 +0100

help

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From: "MALCOLM R FORBES" <MALCOLMF@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:14:36 -0400

Adrian Redmond wrote:
> So question is - anyone have the simple, ready to remember formula for
> converting F to C? I can see that Anchorage yesterday was between 32 and
> 42 - what's that - just above zero C by my book?

Although Centigrade/Celcius is always considered the logical system it is
really true only if you are a bucket of water.  At one end the C scale you
turn to a solid and at the other end you turn into a gas.  Fine, if you are
a bucket of water.  

On the other hand, Mr Farenheit was not exactly lacking in logic.  For his
extremes he chose temperatures that roughly represent the temperature
extremes found in the European climate.  Namely, 100*F (37.8C) is about as
hot as it usually gets.  0*F (-17.8C) is about as cold as is typical. 
There is a huge difference between Palermo and Oslo, of course, but I think
that he started in Paris and split the difference.

Consider a few key points as you go up the scale:
fraction  F     C    remarks
   0      0   -18    down jacket
  1/4    25    -4    wool coat
  1/3    32     0    mind the ice
  1/2    50    10    sweater
  2/3    68    20    room temperature
  3/4    75    24    go to the beach
   1    100    38    air conditioning/body temp

Formulas are fine, but a few key points will tell you what to wear, and
that is really what you need to know. (bring a raincoat)

As you head to Alaska, I am heading to the UK for the first time.  I have
to guess about October weather in Scotland plus drive on the wrong side of
the road.  Any advice?

Cheers
Malcolm

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:00:06 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi Malcolm,
| Although Centigrade/Celcius is always considered the logical system it is
| really true only if you are a bucket of water.  At one end the C scale you
| turn to a solid and at the other end you turn into a gas.  Fine, if you are
| a bucket of water.  
Hey! 95% of our body definitely is water...   ;-)

| As you head to Alaska, I am heading to the UK for the first time.  I have
| to guess about October weather in Scotland plus drive on the wrong side of
| the road.  Any advice?
Have been there twice. Last time in July. Think they have quite wet weather
right now. Driving on the wrong side issn't that bad if you have a passenger
(assuming you still drive a LHD, like I did) or if you got used to shift 
gears with the wrong hand instead of opening the door.  ;-) 
The worst thing are all those roundabouts. But fortunately they don't have 
too many in the rural areas of Scotland.

cu,
Franz
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From: Andy Phillips <AnPi@serviceteam.co.uk>
Subject: RE: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:29:54 +0100

I am in the UK (down South) and its surprisingly warm! We did appear to
have some rain coming in (didn't turn up) and for the past couple of
days the North end has been wet - if you believe the weather
forecasters! I don't feel cold at the moment and the temperature in
Scotland has been above 10 degrees C when I've bothered to look. Its
basically windy and showery but changeable up North! After my subjective
view here's what the met office has to say today:

Wednesday 1 October 1997

    ** Valid for Broadcasts Between 1000 and 1400 **

Headline:  Brighter fresher weather will  spread  across
the north. Some Sunshine at first in the south.
Today:  Showery  and  windy in the  north  but  brighter
fresher  weather  will spread across  northern  Britain.
After some sunshine, the south will cloud over again.

Tonight:  Mainly  dry and cooler  but staying  mild  and
misty in the south-west.

(c) Crown Copyright 1997, All rights Reserved

And here's a 3 day forecast for somewhere in Scotland:
Glasgow
				Weds	    Thurs       Fri
Max Temp (C)                	16            15           15
Min Temp (C)                 	08            08           10
Midday Wind Speed (mph)      20            10           10 
Midday Wind Dirn            	W             W            SW 
Weather                   		Partly        Cloudy
Cloudy  
                          		Cloudy

Prob of Precip (%)          	10            70           60

Hope it helps! Good luck! As for driving on the wrong side of the road,
stay out from the edge a bit and pull back in when someone comes the
other way. This helps on the narrower roads where you can build up a
stunning collection of punctures by driving in the gutter. Oh, and take
an eagle-eyed passenger!

Andy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	MALCOLM R FORBES [SMTP:MALCOLMF@prodigy.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, October 01, 1997 4:15 AM
> To:	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject:	Re: FAHRENHEIT vs CENTIGRADE
> As you head to Alaska, I am heading to the UK for the first time.  I
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
> have
> to guess about October weather in Scotland plus drive on the wrong
> side of
> the road.  Any advice?
> Cheers
> Malcolm

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