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1 Mike Johnson [johnsonm@b17RE: tappet clearances SIII Diesel and assorted questions
2 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u13RE: tappet clearances SIII Diesel and assorted questions
3 Franz Parzefall [franz@m23Re: tappet clearances SIII Diesel and assorted questions
4 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 20Jerry cans
5 "Paul Gussack" [pcg@tenn6subscribe
6 ASFCO@worldnet.att.net 15Locking Hubs on Rear
7 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o17Re: Jerricans & PAP
8 "Davies, Scott" [sdavies30Re: Jerricans & PAP
9 John Putnam [JPutnam@whp19RE: Series IIA Question-Clutch/gearbox
10 "K. JOHN WOOD" [JWROVER@25FW: Red River Area National Rally things to Do!
11 gpool@pacific.net (Granv19Re: Locking Hubs on Rear
12 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u18Re: Locking Hubs on Rear
13 lopezba@atnet.at 23Rear Propshaft Flange
14 BarrieWyLR@aol.com 7D-90 Still for Sale
15 Rick Grant [rgrant@cadvi24brake wheel cylinder repair?
16 Christian Neuhaus Wiese 11RE: DISCOVERY / DIFFERENTIAL LOCK.
17 "Con P. Seitl" [seitl@ns20Re: Locking Hubs on Rear
18 QROVER80@aol.com 22Black panel syndrome or ( + ) earth


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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:23:20 -0400
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: RE: tappet clearances SIII Diesel and assorted questions

Can anyone clear up an anomaly for me? On the engine cover of all of my
Land Rovers it says "Tappet clearance hot or cold 0.010" " and yet in
the haynes Manual and the Official LR Workshop manual (Danish edition)
it states 0.020" (0.25mm) - so are we talking about a minor discrepancy
of 0.010" or an error of the magnitude of 100% - does this matter? Who
should I believe - the man who made the motor (label) or the man who
made the manual?

I would say to always trust the language of origin.
Mike Johnson
74 SIII 88 Chester
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: RE: tappet clearances SIII Diesel and assorted questions
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 97 12:32:50 BST

> Can anyone clear up an anomaly for me? On the engine cover of all of my
> Land Rovers it says "Tappet clearance hot or cold 0.010" " and yet in
> the haynes Manual and the Official LR Workshop manual (Danish edition)
                                                         ^^^^^^
You weren't at the auction on the last day of Billing, were you?  :-)

Richard

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: tappet clearances SIII Diesel and assorted questions
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:35:55 +0200 (MET DST)

Mike,
| Can anyone clear up an anomaly for me? On the engine cover of all of my
| Land Rovers it says "Tappet clearance hot or cold 0.010" " and yet in
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| should I believe - the man who made the motor (label) or the man who
| made the manual?
My LR (German) manual says .25mm which is actually .010" (at least until recently
1 inch was 25.4mm) for the 2.5D and the 2.3D.
Hope this helps,
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
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      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:15:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Jerry cans

Dave: A company called "Sportsmans Guide" in Minnesota sells ex-E. German and
Ruski jerry cans, which are made to the original Wehrmacht pattern (i.e.
almost identical to NATO jerry cans- they all copied the Germans, hence the
nickname) for about $16 each. I have two and they are good quality, but may
come in odd colors, i.e. I have one silver can, one dark green Red Army can.
The Russian ones can be identified by the cryllic same case letter which
looks like greek "lambda" as an abbreviation for "liter".  They also sell
original British army water jerry cans (in HDPE) for about the same or less.
Once youre on their list you keep getting their catalog. They have a lot of
neat surplus stuff, plus shooting supplies and clothing, and camping gear. I
dont have a catalog handy but their number is 1-800-882-2962. They have a web
page at //www.skypoint.com/members/pilot/guide.htm   The usual disclaimers
apply. If anyone needs the order numbers I'll try to hunt up a catalog at
home. Cheers. Andy Blackley

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg@tennis.org>
Subject: subscribe

subscribe lro-digest

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Locking Hubs on Rear
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:06:43 +0000

A friend of mine asked about installing locking hubs on the rear of his 88
so he will be able to unlock them while he is towing the rover behind his
pick-up any thoughts/comments?.
  If it were me I would drop the driveshaft.
Thanks
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 97 07:37:43 EST
Subject: Re: Jerricans & PAP

URL: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

>Could anyone please suggest a place to get new or used jerricans?  I'm
>also looking for perforated aluminum platforming (PAP)

Seeing a steel is too heavy, and aluminum is NLA< I'd be so bold as to say 
forget it DAve, you won't need this stuff. A winch and a pull pal and a good 
shovel will get you out of most anything.

later
DaveB.

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: Re: Jerricans & PAP
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 97 15:22:00 PDT

In the August issue of LROI Dave Bowyer's advert shows a GRP alternative, 
'waffles' sand and bridging ladder at 105.75UKP each including VAT. 5' long 
by 15" wide and weighing 11kg.

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
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From: dbobeck
Subject: Re: Jerricans & PAP
Date: 05 August 1997 07:37

URL: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

URL: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

>Could anyone please suggest a place to get new or used jerricans?  I'm
>also looking for perforated aluminum platforming (PAP)
Seeing a steel is too heavy, and aluminum is NLA< I'd be so bold as to say
forget it DAve, you won't need this stuff. A winch and a pull pal and a good 

shovel will get you out of most anything.

later
DaveB.

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From: John Putnam <JPutnam@whpacific.com>
Subject: RE: Series IIA Question-Clutch/gearbox
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:40:04 -0700

Okay Chris,

Thanks for bringing this up.  Now my Rover has the same problem. Untill
this weekend I'll just have to be real attentive to my shifting.

John Putnam
'70 SIIa SWB "Rhino"
Forest Grove, OR
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	chrisste@clark.net [SMTP:chrisste@clark.net]
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> Series IIA 1969 SW 88"
> Towson, MD

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 97 12:36:46 UT
From: "K. JOHN WOOD" <JWROVER@msn.com>
Subject: FW: Red River Area National Rally things to Do!

LRO's 
	Here are some sights to check out in prep for info on the National Rally.
Your's
K. John Wood
Event Co- Solihull Society

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From:  David Hanna
Sent:  Monday, August 04, 1997 1:06 PM
Subject:  Red River Area

John, I found these sites on the web.  I would Highly reccomend checking them 
out becasue they offer some good area advice.
http://www.laplaza.org/gov/fed/carson/index.html
http://www.laplaza.org/gov/fed/carson/html_trails/trail_fork_lake.html
These guys are building a 4-wheel drive page but it is not up yet.  Also check 
out the Red River page which is linked from the Solihull page...
http://rtt.colorado.edu/~hannad/solihull/national.htm
Dave

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:38:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Locking Hubs on Rear

Steve,

>A friend of mine asked about installing locking hubs on the rear of his 88
>so he will be able to unlock them while he is towing the rover behind his
>pick-up any thoughts/comments?.
>  If it were me I would drop the driveshaft.

I think it's a good idea.  I had them on one of mine for quite a while.  I'd
just make sure that the ones used are good, fresh, heavy-duty ones.  And
always carry a spare stock drive plate in case one breaks.

Cheers,

Granny

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Locking Hubs on Rear
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 97 16:45:35 BST

> Steve,
> >A friend of mine asked about installing locking hubs on the rear of his 88
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> just make sure that the ones used are good, fresh, heavy-duty ones.  And
> always carry a spare stock drive plate in case one breaks.

I'd be worried about one breaking - sudden loss of power, engine braking,
and handbrake.
If you've got new nuts on your driveshaft (what 20p each?) they're quite a bit
easier to undo! I'd be tempted to do that too.

Richard ("it happened to fast")

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:25:23 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Rear Propshaft Flange

Dear all, here's a question to the Series specialists:

Today I finally managed to get my rear propshaft off the 107". The 
self-locking nuts linking it to the diff were really self-locking and had to 
be ground off. The ones holding it to the transfer box output flange looked 
pretty inaccessible, but when I started tackling them with an open-ended 
spanner they yielded easily. Actually, they all seemed pretty loose. Even 
the bolts/studs are a little loose, the will turn about 15 degrees and seem 
a little loose inthe sockets. According to my parts manual, these should be 
studs, but this is a late 1958 and they might just be captive bolts (like 
the ones that hold the transmission brake drum). Does anybody know? I don't 
want to dismantle any more components in that direction if I don't have to, 
but loose studs would really worry me.
Best regards and sorry about the cross-posting

Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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From: BarrieWyLR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:47:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: D-90 Still for Sale

Still available 1994 D-90.  $23,500 OBO, trade considered.

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Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 19:40:12 -0600
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: brake wheel cylinder repair?

As I related on the weekend I managed to strip a bleed nipple in a brake
wheel cylinder. So based on the old aircraft maintenance principle that if
something goes wrong, and you have more of the same thing on board,  you'd
better pull and at least inspect if not replace, I pulled the others and
sure enough one is close enough to complete strip failure to make no difference.

But it turns out that the cost of these things in C$ is way high.

Is there a way to repair these things?  It's the soft alloy in the casting
that is stripped, not the diamond hard bleed nipple.

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Cobra Media Communications.  Calgary, Canada
Aboriginal and International Relief Issues

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 21:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christian Neuhaus Wiese <chnw@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Subject: RE: DISCOVERY / DIFFERENTIAL LOCK.

I HAVE A 1991 DISCOVERY TDI 200 AND WISH TO PUT ON FRONT AND / OR REAR
DIFFERNTIAL LOCKS .

DOES ANY BODY CAN HELP ME RECOMENDING WHERE TO FIND THEM / PRICE APROX.

REGARDS AND THANKS.

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Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:36:55 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Locking Hubs on Rear

ASFCO@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> URL: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> A friend of mine asked about installing locking hubs on the rear of his 88
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> WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
>                    68 S lla 88

  Got them on my 88, had 'em  for about 8 years there, no problem. 
Actually, they are better lubed than the ones on the front ( probably 
cause my front swivel balls leak oil out and water and crap in) Easy to 
change axles, just a few extra bolts, as witnessed at the Owls Head on 
the "Hill"  :-)

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:02:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Black panel syndrome or ( + ) earth

Dixon wrote
 Your wiring too eh... :-)  This year we have Wade, Quintin... all
joining the black instrument panel club!  Actually, a black instrument
panel denotes the beginning of the end.  First covering up for shoddy
wiring and future electrical fires when they sucuumbed to that fad of
earthing things negatively.  It was then a repressed haterid for the
customer by changing the dash from safe, black painted steel, to unsafe,
flamable plastic.  The eventual switch to coil suspension was to help lull
you to sleep by offering comfort while driving.  

Alas it is a good theory BUT my truck is still , as all things should be +
earth.
Ps. I fixed the darn thing and it will be at The summer party in all its
glory , Might even ... wash it .  
Quintin 
What is that burning smell. ?

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