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1 | Mike Cattell [Mike@mikec | 23 | Re: major problem? |
2 | "Brian Cotton (bcotton@p | 15 | New FAQ page - Needs input |
3 | "Brian Cotton (bcotton@p | 9 | Sorry-I'm stupid |
4 | rhodesia@juno.com (Chris | 22 | [not specified] |
5 | lopezba@atnet.at | 58 | Stripping paint from galvanized parts, fuel tank |
6 | ASFCO@worldnet.att.net | 13 | Outer wing skin needed |
7 | Majordomo [majordom> | 22 | [not specified] |
8 | David Cockey [dcockey@ti | 40 | No direct sales to NA |
9 | Michael Carradine [cs@cr | 31 | Re: No direct sales to NA |
10 | Simon Ward-Hastelow [sim | 47 | [not specified] |
11 | marsden@digicon-egr.co.u | 41 | Re: Billing '97 report |
12 | David Cockey [dcockey@ti | 10 | SI Calender (na in NA) |
13 | James Curtis [staff@stjo | 28 | SERIES II PUSHRODS |
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:01:06 +0100 From: Mike Cattell <Mike@mikecat.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: major problem? In article <bulk.21502.19970718132003@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Erik van Dyck <erikvandyck@mindspring.com> writes >I haven't recieved the lro-digest for about two weeks, have unsubscribed [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)] >Suwanee, Georgia >1973 Series III 88" The major certainly is!!! I met him at Billing yesterday. I pointed out that all was not well and he appologises but there's not a lot he can do for a fortnight while hes in the uk. As far as I'm aware the real time list is working. As far as Billing goes, what a meet, between 8,000 and 10,000 landrovers all in the same place at the same time, absolutley amazing :-) Mike Cattell, Christleton, Cheshire, U.K. http://www.mikecat.demon.co.uk/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Brian Cotton (bcotton@pta.lia.net)" <Brian.Cotton@liapta.pta.lia.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:49:16 +0000 Subject: New FAQ page - Needs input Everybody, Please go and have a look at my new, and very young, FAQ page concerning the Land Rover Owner's Club's Golden Jubilee Tour of Southern Africa 1998 Thanks Brian Cotton LROC of SA ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Brian Cotton (bcotton@pta.lia.net)" <Brian.Cotton@liapta.pta.lia.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:54:09 +0000 Subject: Sorry-I'm stupid Sorry Folks, I forgot to tell you where to go: http://www.dbn.lia.net/users/bcotton/50page.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: models(toys) From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R Whitehead) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:54:38 EDT Hi Everyone, A long six weeks in the land of the eternal Land Rover. Along the way I inadvertantly picked up ( actually between my wife and I we did this) a couple of extra Land Rover models. They are super friction 4x4 toys made by NewRay. The scale is 1:32 Land Rover Station Wagons-(1985 Defenders 90). They are die cast metal with plastic safari top. The bodies are either green or yellow with the plastic tops being white. The four wheels are geared so that they move totally in unison (I guess I would call it permanent four wheel drive). There is a rear spare wheel on the safari door, and bull bars on the front. Is anyone interested in these before I let my kids add them to their growing LR collection. Email me at Rhodesia@juno.com Cheers Chris Whitehead-Arizona, USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:08:29 +0200 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Stripping paint from galvanized parts, fuel tank Dear all, every now and then there is a question about stripping paint off galvanized parts without damaging the galvanizing. I asked the same question about two years ago, and one of the answers I got was to use methylchloride-based stripper. I found some from Eastwood's and used it today on my windshield. It really works well! The stripper eats up the paint, and the winshield looks almost like new. Some points: The part you want to strip the paint from should be reasonably warm (I left the windshield in the sun for a while). I used a paintbrush to apply the stripper to the windshield and let it sit for about ten minutes (worked on something else in the meantime). Then I used stainless steelwool and lots of water to remove the paint ( a white base, red and light green) and the stripper. Where do you get stainless steelwool from, you might well ask? I couldn't find any, either, until I went to a local supermarket to do the heavy shopping for my wife and found some that is used to scour stainless steel pots. It pays to help your wife! The stuff works really well, too. If you use normal steel wool, your galvanized surface will rust. This stripper dissolves natural rubber, too, btw. Fine with me, I had wanted to take the two panes of glass out of the windscreen, but they wouldn't budge - now they almost fell out (I caught them in time). The stripper is not supposed to hurt aluminum, so it should be safe to use on galvanized parts still attached to aluminum panels as long as you plan to repaint the panel. Please be sure to wear rubber gloves and goggles and only work in a well-ventilated room, or out in the open. I also removed the fuel tank today, and I must say the way the fuel tank is attched to the chassis is the most perverse bit of engineering I have encountered so far. The three front bolts are 5/16th A/F, and all sheared - fine, they have been sitting in an exposed place for almost fourty years. The three rear bolts are 1/8th WW, and you can't get at the nuts unless you have a third joint and a special Whitworth tool that goes round a corner - they sit inside an outrigger with a narrow opening at the bottom, and they sit close to the wall of the outrigger so you can't get anything around them. It was a real struggle with a broken-off spanner I ground to fit between the nut and the wall - I couldn't get he nutsplitter in there, either. And the worst part: The tank does not rest on the outriggers, it is suspended from them, so as soon as you have the first three bolts out it slips down on that side and puts even more stress on the other three bolts, and it also needs to be propped up or it will fall tp the ground as soon as the last nut is removed (which, luckily, is practically impossible). However, I must admit the tank is in very good shape, with very little superficial rust and all the attachments still there and in working order (including the float-type fuel gauge sender). Hope everybody else had a productive weekend Peter Hirsch Vienna, Austria Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net Subject: Outer wing skin needed Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:51:31 +0000 I am looking for a right side outer wing skin for my '68 lla 88. Please contact me direct TIA Rgds Steve Bradke 96 Discovery WA2GMC 72 S lll 88 (For Sale) 68 S lla 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:56:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Majordomo <majordom> Hi all, It seems that in addition to the obvious chagnes which I made, the actual file containing the lists of names for the lro-digest subscribers was wiped out entirely, and replayed by a binary file. It has been fixed, by retreiving a version from 7 July. Don't know if this will get everyone going again or not. Cheers, -Bill (writing from Pierre Ketteridge's laptop, in New Farnley, nr. Leeds, UK I'm off to the west coast of Scotland, so if you digest folks get this message on Monday morning, then you're happy, and if you don't then I'll sort it out in August. Happy Rovering.) ~v ~V ~v ~e ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 22:13:34 -0400 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: No direct sales to NA The SI Club Shop no longer ships directly to North America. Items no longer available include clothing, stickers, handbooks and manuals, repro bulkhead plates, a few tools, and hardened exhaust valves. The reason is given in "Legend" #88. The SI Club believes that "there is a tendency in North America to sue at the drop of a hat - or a spanner on someone's big toe". So they became concerned over a situation such as one in which "it was claimed that the Club's exhaust valves caused an engine to seize which was the possible factor which resulted in a third party being hurt - and they, the third party, then sent out writs in all directions". They were then "advised that it would be prohibitively expensive to take out suitable product liabilty insurance for North America". They suggest anyone in North America find an intermediary in the UK for SI Club items. As far as I'm aware the SI Club is a limited liability corporation in the UK with no assests or representation (other than members) in North America. Does anyone who is knowlegable about US and Canadian product liability law believe their concerns are reasonable? How would anyone sue them and collect if successful in the US? What is the real probablity of anyone suing a club in North America over merchandise sold? What would insurance cost a North American club with such concerns? I'm worried others in the UK, particularly the small LR related businesses, will pick up on this and refuse to ship to the US. Any suggestions on how to counter this? BTW, based on what is in the British press, don't say anything negative about any UK residents. They probably sue you for libel or slander, and you will have great difficulty defending yourself. Insurance coverage is prohibitively expensive. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:13:25 -0700 From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com> Subject: Re: No direct sales to NA At 10:13 PM 7/20/97 -0400, David Cockey wrote: :The SI Club Shop no longer ships directly to North America...... :The SI Club believes that "there is a tendency in North America to sue :at the drop of a hat - or a spanner on someone's big toe"...... :As far as I'm aware the SI Club is a limited liability corporation in :the UK with no assests or representation (other than members) in North :America. So what is the worry? No one is going to sue over a $10, $100, or even $1000 part. Suits up to $5,000 are relegated to Small Claims Court, that is, citizens suing citizens without attorney's involved. Service of Process to an overseas entity would be difficult, and the court has no sphoena powers unless the entity steps foot in the state. Keep selling merchandise and parts, used and "as is". The only trouble you can expect is fraudulent sales, where a customer can ask his credit card company to refund his money which will get withdrawn from your account. -Michael PS- What are dues and the address for the SI club? _____ Michael Carradine [__[_\__ 50-80, 72-88, 89-RR Architect [_______] www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)_.(o)___..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Billing '97 report Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 08:49:56 +0100 From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com> Great event as usual - I arrived on Thursday afternoon and was amazed at the number of people already there - considering that it did not officially start until Friday - the campsite looked pretty much full already with more rigs arriving by the minute. By early Friday I couldn't see where they would fit everyone. Its never been this busy so early before I'm sure. The weather Thursday and Friday was pretty miserable but Saturday and Sunday were glorious. The extra rain added a little extra to the off-road course. I drove it every day and each time was different, with some sections being roped off due to excessive wear, by the end of the weekend there were some enourmous ruts and holes in the back end of the course that certainly had my suspension clunking and groaning. The Display area was the same as usual - I don't see how they can alter it, they go through the same routine every year with Club displays, off-road driving techniques etc, all that changes is the running order. The Trade stands were not as good this year - they seem to be moving towards more companies offering after-market parts and modifications with less traders offering used/new parts for older series vehicles etc. but some bargains are still to be had, just not as many as before. A couple of traders seemed to be shifting more 'small items' than large parts, probably the items that cost more in shipping costs than the purchase price. John Craddock's Auction on Sunday afternoon revealed some real bargains, an new Arctic Heater went for 10quid (usual cost - over 1000UK) a couple of capstan winches sold for around 200 quid (usual cost again over 1000) a Power Take-Off for a 5-speed box sold for 40quid and numerous items selling for similar amounts. The more unusual bits for sale were a large amount of workshop manuals and handbooks in foreign languages, I really don't know where Craddock got so many Arabic and Danish publications from, there were also Land Rover books in French, Italian, Dutch and one or two in English. A real treat for the hundreds of Continental Europeans visiting the show this year. The problem next year will be whether we can fit all the shows in, I already know of 5 events all planned to celebrate 50 years of Land rover with the ARC National planned to take place over NINE days. I don't know if my wife will appreciate using up all our holiday entitlement from work on Landrover events. Simon W-H 110 V8 CSW ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: Re: Billing '97 report Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 9:40:10 BST > John Craddock's Auction on Sunday afternoon revealed some real bargains, > an new Arctic Heater went for 10quid (usual cost - over 1000UK) a couple [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)] > or two in English. A real treat for the hundreds of Continental Europeans > visiting the show this year. With hindsight I should have bid on that Arctic Heater! I was going to bid on a wing, but it turned out it was for a 90/110. Well, it the first Billing I went to - yes there were a lot of Landies! I heard quite a few people saying there were loads more than last year. Surprising number of Discos too. I was very good with buying bits - a couple of shackles and a model kit! :-) *But* there may be a new convert... I went along with a guy I new from Uni (works for Ford) who's being toying with the idea of getting a military Landy since I got mine. Although tempted by a 101" the girlfriend overruled it! (anything that will fit in the garage, and yes I fitted *my* 109" in *his* garage!) Anyway, he found a 109" FFR soft-top going for some ridiculous price (L1250 I think). Seems to be in good nick - we had a drive around in it. The paint job was much worse than mine, looks like there's a rear axle seal leaking. That's about it! Engine sounds good, although neither of us actually drove it. Green engine (what *did* that signify?) New clutch master. New shocks. Suspension was claimed to be new, although the front springs looked newer than the rear. Chassis seems good, although it was Vince who had the poke around. The guy trying to sell it claimed the gearbox and steering were good - hard to tell without driving it... He said he was going back next week. If so, we'll all be meeting up for a barbie in Purley, so we'd have to drive in in convoy. I remember the looks I got last year, when I did a 3-point turn in Purley! :-) Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 05:11:57 -0400 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: SI Calender (na in NA) The SI Club is advertising a '98 calender for #3.50. Presumably it can't be sold directly to North America due to product liability concerns. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:15:27 +0100 From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk> Subject: SERIES II PUSHRODS A brief question... I have a Series II 1960 (3 bearing I presume) I have just raised the compression by skimming the head... I have taken off 4.8mm! There is no apparrent problems and there certainly is a little more poke!... However the pushrods are now too long. So The long and short of it is I need to get some pushrods from an engine with shorter ones (the 2 & 1/4 diesel) Question 1: Are the diesel ones shorter? " 2: How much? " 3: If not then how does the diesel equivalent manage this shorter distance between crank and valve? There must be loads of you out there who have done similar things to your beasties... I would appreciate any advice on how to overcome this minor problem.. Thanks in advance, James ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970721 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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