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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:01:39 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Gearbox repairs

Thorsten Klein wrote:
>  dbobeck@ushmm.org wrote

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> kleit001@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de
> SIII Lightweight <Scotty>
As you correctly state, I did pay in danish kroner - about 9000
including VAT (which is called MOMS here) - a fair price for a
professional rebuild) BUT - it flet more like I'd paid with the shirt
off my back, an experience which, if possible with a modicum of
mechanical curiousity and ingeneity, I wish to avoid at least for a few
months.
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:15:07 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Spare wheel

David Olley at New Concept wrote:
> You are not legally required to carry a spare wheel. The MoT test
> only covers the wheels on the road and the spare, if present, is not
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> am I
> > right?
> > Chris
It's different here in Denmark as far as I know - here you are not
required to carry a spare, but if you do, it must be legal. I presume
that if you were stopped with a punctured spare it would, because of the
puncture be classified as not being a spare - otherwise they might feel
the rubber to see if it's warm - or if you in fact have been driving
around with a punctured spare for weeks.

Many add-ons (which in our circles are considered essentials) like rear
spotlight, adjustable tow-hitch, fog-lamps, extra front-spots, spare
wheels in unusual places, and even rear seats which do not point
backwards, thus rendering them liable for safety-belts, must be removed
before the MOT test.

According to danish bureaucracy, you may mount the seats to the chassis
or floor yourself, but the anchor points for seat-belts must be standard
installations which are covered by the danish "type-approval" which is
undertaken by testing an example or two to destruction which the
importer must provide for the state testing authorities.

A similar misnomer is the definition of BUS - as a film company we can
get exemption from the heavy import duties if we reconstruct a BUS so
that it has no more than 9 seats (inc. driver) and there is a seperate
cabin for equipment. A LR station wagon, or 4 door RR,  would be perfect
for this application, with the rear six bench seatpositions/luggage bay 
replaced with equipment storage, making transport of 4,5, or even 6
persons off road an easy job for us. However the law permits import duty
dispensation for new vehicles which are imported as busses, and which
can be classified as a bus. The cabin interior is 1cm too low to permit
this classification. The RR is excluded because such conversion doesn't
actually differ from a standard factory vehicle (it's not a bus). Even
though it must be a bus, the regulations about the maximum number of
seats imply that it must be re-registered so that it can be driven by an
ordinary license holder. When our bus must be MOT'd, the rear seats,
including thiose which back up to the partition to the equipment bay,
which is only accessible from the rear doors (it's a VW LT35 bus) must
be turned so as to face backwards, as there are no seat belts. Seat
belts must not be fitted as there are no approved anchorages! EU
regulations state that if seats face the rear (even if it means that
no-one can sit in them) , seat-belts are not needed.

Brave new world? You tell me!
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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Elephant's hide
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:01:52 +0000

At 02:13 AM 4/23/97 +0000, you wrote:
>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>Does anyone know of a source for this "leatherette" type material that was
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>front bottom cushions.  Either a source of this material or a source of the
>entire lower cushion would be most appreciated.  Thanks,  Brian 
Brian;

     There had been some previous discussion about this subject awhile
back.. I beleive it is available thru British Northwest Land-Rover.  Speak
to Charles Kellogg, but be forewarned you will pay big $$$$ if he has it.
 
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:28:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: WANTED: owner of Ft.Collins, CO, white SIIa 109" with Alaska plates

In a message dated 4/22/97 8:57:55 PM, you wrote:

>I was wondering whether anyone knows the owner of the white SIIa 109" with
>Alaska plates on it and Landy stickers on the tail??  It has a black 
>expedition rack mounted on it and sits in the parking lot of the same
>appartment complex where I live at (The Preserve) in Ft.Collins, CO, US...

So, you see a 109 in the same parking lot where you live, and you didn't
double-park behind it to make sure the owner met/acknowledged you? Did you
leave a note under the wipers (if it has them;-) ) or something? How
fortunate that you see one where you live... it is soooo rare down here. The
nearest one I know of is 40+ miles away and not e-mailable.

Most series trucks I've come across (in South Florida/Miami) aren't on the
LRO-list and some have contacted me via phone from notes I've left. I
sometimes leave the Major's and the lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net addresses, but
that has even less success I think.

pat
93  110

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:44:01 -0700
From: john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: woolies and elephant hide

david cockey wrote:

Try Woolies in England. Phone number was 0778-347347. I believe it is now
01778-347347. Fax should be 01778-341847. Address is Market Deeping,
Peterborough, England, PE6 8LD. Very friendly folks. They can provide
material which is very close.

I sent them a letter and receieved back a FAX saying they didn't know what
Land Rover elephant (or rhino hide) was.  They said if I could supply a
sample they could help me.  Of course, I'm here and they're there;  plus,
all my elepahnt hide is aging in my rovers.

<Please> If someone could get the name and or catalog number of the
material that Woolies sells that looks close to elephant hide, I could ask
them for a sample, then I could discuss prices and decide if it's what I
want to recover the dormobile seats with.

BTW, BNW insists on reupholstering seats and not selling any fabric.  When
I asked Mr Kellog for a quote for the seats in the dormobile, he wouldn't
give one.  Insisted that I ship the seats to him and he would bill me
later.  Assured me that they would be better than new;  new paint, new
fabric.

Dunfold had some a coule years ago.  30 pounds per meter.  Don't know if
they have any now.  I asked Brian Bashall for a sample and he promptly sent
one out.  It looks like exactly the same stuff I have.

cheers,

John F Hess                       1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us      1984 Mazda GLC "Mazda box"
dormobile homepage:               1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's)
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:53:00 -0400
From: johnsonm@borg.com (myk)
Subject: Finger Lakes Rover Club outing

Does anyone east of Rochester plan on attending the FLRC meeting/outing
this weekend.  If so would you like to meet on (I90) the NY thruway to
create a caravan?  Maybe we could get a list of folks who are attending and
what exit and time they will meet up.

Mike Johnson  exit 33   8:30am

I understand some folks in Fulton, Gloversville and Albany will be
attending.  See you there.

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 07:34:05 EST
Subject: Re: Rear floor support cross members

>A friend is doing a frameover on a S3 109 and is in need of what I can 
>only describe as rear floor support cross members. ...snip....
>  We are told that the usual parts sources can't get them and that the 
>only realistic supply source is from salvage vehicles.  

I bought 3 of these from Rovers North, for $25US about one year ago. I'm 
sure they are still available. What part of the world are you in?

DaveB
Arlington VA
72 SIII SWB "Green Car"
Ask me about ANYONE

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:37:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Rear floor support cross members

On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 dbobeck@ushmm.org wrote:

> Subject: Re: Rear floor support cross members

> >A friend is doing a frameover on a S3 109 and is in need of what I can 
x >only describe as rear floor support cross members. ...snip....
> >  We are told that the usual parts sources can't get them and that the 
x >only realistic supply source is from salvage vehicles.

x I bought 3 of these from Rovers North, for $25US about one year ago. I'm
> sure they are still available. What part of the world are you in?

dave, did you rivet these things in or bolt and grind the head
flat.  if you rivet-ed, it certainly is a 2-person job or how
did you pull it off...

Sincerely,

Ray Harder 

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:57:01 -0700
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: Elephant's hide

David Cockey wrote:
> Another LRO owner in search of the elusive elephant hide:
> > Does anyone know of a source for this "leatherette" type material that
> was
> > used to uphoster the seats, door panels, etc. on Series IIs and early
> IIAs?
Note that the British Northwest Land Rover Company also has it, but my
understanding is that you may have to mortgage your house to get any. 
Also, note that many Left-Coast LROs bear extremem antipathy toward the
proprietor of said company.

C

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Subject: Cleaning engine compartments
From: robot1@juno.com (Mark E Hardig)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 12:04:22 EDT

On Tuesday, April 22, you wrote:
> I omitted to steam clean under the hood prior to starting to
take things apart! I now have the head off (block will be coming out
this week) and all the ancillaries (fuel pump, alternator, distrib. etc)
off. Unfortunately they're all coated in a layer of grime. What's the
best way for me to start cleaning them?<

Elbow grease, elbow grease, and lots more elbow grease. Commercial brake
cleaning tanks use lye suspended in water. This eats just about
everything, including insulation (certain types) hoses, gaskets(again,
certain types) and mostly things you don't want eaten. Ditto for most
spray solvents, ditto for many paint thinners/reducers. Better to
carefully protect anything that can be hurt and rent a pressure washer.
(you can buy one for a hundred bucks at Wal-Mart nowadays)

I made a set of plywood covers that I could bolt on the open cylinders
and other uncovered places. I use closed cell foam "sill sealer"
available at building supply houses as a gasket. Allows me to steam clean
an engine once heads have been removed and shipped to my local machine
shop. Total cost ten bucks for plywood, a few minutes with a sabre saw, a
couple of short bolts to hold the whole silly thing together. Looks rube
goldberg, but protects well. 

Mark

"No one speaks english, and everything's broken" --Tom Waits

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From: Michael Slade <slade@imagina.com>
Subject: Re: Inertial Seat Belt Swap Det
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:12:23 +0000

Lt Jackson wrote...

>   C.  Back of Reel Case:  There is a "pin", for lack of a better term, which
>sticks out from the back of the reel.  This is just a piece of the steel
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>pin (which I did on one side) or cut it off (which I did on the other).   It
>is not important, and not related to the safety mechanism in any way.

<<<<<IMPORTANT>>>>>>

The pin is there so that the inertia unit does not rotate upon impact.  If
the retractor unit spins on it's mounting bolt, the retractor locking
mechanism releases and the efficacy of the belt is diminished/eliminated.
I would strongly suggest that you either replace the pin, or find a way to
make darn sure that retractor unit won't spin on axis.

When I installed the retractor belts into my 109 I took great pains to make
sure the pin was mounted properly.  It isn't tough, just level out the unit
(truck on level ground) and align the pin for proper release of the
retractor.  Make a mark on your LR bracket and drill the appropriate size
hole for the pin to slide into when the retractor is bolted to the bracket.
BTW the belts I used were out of a SAAB 900.

Good luck!

Michael Slade
Portland, OR
slade@imagina.com
'70 109 SW (for sale)

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:39:52 -0700
From: cyoungso@direct.ca (Chris Youngson)
Subject: Santana springs & address

Does anybody know anything about the Santana parabolic springs?
Also, does anyone have a fax # or address for Santana. I'd like 
to get plans to have these springs made locally. 
The article in LRO says these springs were developed in the 
early 90's. Is Santana still building LR's.

73, Chris

Chris Youngson, VE7CST
West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
1965 109 3 door.

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Subject: RR rolling chassis for sale
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 19:07:08 +0100
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

A colleague of mine from work has recently decommissioned a 1985 Range 
Rover. He says he has 'moved on' from 4x4 and is using bits of the RR to 
make a 'kit sportscar'

Anyhow he has offered me whats left of the RR for 350 quid, I think it is 
basically a complete RR minus engine and body. The 5 speed Manual 
Transmission, Transfer Box, Air Con, Axles, Props, Wheels, Floor pan, 
Dashboard, are all there! If it wasn't for the fact that I have nowhere 
to put it and I think the neighbours might get a little upitty if I just 
'parked' it out front I would snap it up just for the 'box and axles 
alone. 

If anyone is interested I could put you in touch with with the seller. 
I'm not sure where he lives but we work in London so I guess he would 
live within commuting distance of there.

Simon W-H
'85 110 V8

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:33:15 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Welcome to land-rover-owner

Dear Major or Bill! I have a suggestion which would be appreciated by
many LRO subscribers who have been bombarded with "undeliverable
messages" for the last two or three weeks - it goes like this...

    unsubscribe land-rover-owner tims@postoffice.durango.mjt.com

Whoever tims is, he could fix his postbox, or write to us to explain the
problem. I have also received similar messages from somebody called
paulc at the same address - for him I would suggest the following
variation...

    unsubscribe land-rover-owner paulc@postoffice.durango.mjt.com

I do hope these phantom LRO's will understand the frustration, like I
hope the Major, with Bill's approval, will accept my suggestion.

I love getting mail from LRO's - whatever the subject, content and tone,
I can take it! I can even take the non-LRO's who like the flying
dutchman have been locked in a Solihull-Time-warp and are able to
unsubscribe - at least they exist - but
postoffice.duramngo.durango.bim.bam.bom is getting to be tiresome - how
can you agree, comment, challenge, or reply to someone who seemingly
does not exists and doesn't want you mail?

If they don't exist - they won't mind my suggestion. If they do exist,
they can't even receive it, so what about it eh?

Yours roverly!

-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: 	Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:49:18 -1000
From: Wayne R Haight <whaight@hawaii.edu>
Subject: Timing chain to gear conversion

Aloha all,

I noticed an ad in the back of LRO by Zeus Design of Devon, England that
sells a gear conversion to replace the timing chain and tensioner on 2.25
Petrol engines with meshing gears.They claim improved performance and
reliability. Has anyone done this or heard about anyone that has? Any
problems/horrors encountered? If it works it seems like it would cure the
sloppy chain syndrome once and for all...

Mahalo,

Wayne Haight
1970 Series IIA SWB (Kololohi)

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:01:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Speedometers

 If you look at the front dial on a Smiths or jaeger speedometer you will
note a model number followed by 3 or 4 figures. These latter figures
represent the number of revolutions per mile that the speedo cable makes.
For a 88 fitted with 600 x 16 tyres the number is around 1500 ( some later
ones were 1536 ) and for a LWB fitted with 7.50 x 16 tyres the number is 1400.
 Now whenever you change the gearing in any way ( except overdrive or high
ratio transfer gears ) you can use this data to change the speedo. For
example if you put 3.54 differentials in place of 4.7 the calculation is (
for 7.50 tyres ) 1400 / 4.7 x 3.54  = 1054. So go round the scrap yard
looking at british cars that have smiths speedos and find one with a number
closer to this, it will be more accurate than the standard. All kinds of
fancy shapes can be found, rectangular elliptic etc. There are certain
standard ratios available,I can't remember them all> I think the Range rover
was 1000, so was the Triumph 2000 car, the Triumph Herald had some at 1400 (
good for 7.50 tyres ) etc .
 So when you use a @#$$%^ gearbox, check the speedo cable ratio change and
change the speedo. Alternatively I think some of the specialist shops will
recalibrate the instrument and put in the nearest ratio for the miles
travelled bits. The Speedo part change is relatively simple for them.
 
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:48:53 +0000
From: RPI Engineering <rpi@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

The reply has to be 'YES' post our V8 information everywhere, The V8 engine
has many dark secrets, our web site exposes them all.

Mike Rodgers needs a Mallory Distributor, ---- visit our web site to find
out why?? --- sorry Mike you'll get one eventually even if i have to give
it to you.

bye for know.

Chris Crane (rpi-engineering.co.uk)

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:16:55 PST
Subject: Re: Elephant's hide
From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R Whitehead)

Only solution I know of is to make it. If you want to know how to make it
call Marty Davis at (602) 437-9491

Cheers

Chris
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 03:31:51 -0400 "David Cockey" <dcockey@tir.com>
writes:
>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>Another LRO owner in search of the elusive elephant hide:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 29 lines)]
>just reupolstering.
>Regards,
>David Cockey

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From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren)
Date: 22 Apr 97 21:36:11 +0000
Subject: overdrive

From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren)

On the subject of Overdrives!!!

 >I have always thought that the mark was the Full mark or a MAX mark, could
 >explain why the thing makes so much noise :( even though I think they all
 >are noisy anyway. Can anyone confirm if the mark is Max or Min.

 >The instructions I received with my Fairey Overdrive back in the early
 >1970s state that the mark on the dipstick is the MAXIMUM level.  Allowing
 >the level to increase above the mark on the dipstick runs the same risk as

Errrrr.... oh dear!!!!!! My 90wt is over the mark then!!! :-/

But the mark is at the bottom of the dipstick, so that would mean a 
normal level would be off the end of the dipstick????

HELP!!!!!!
 
Catch you later,
Lenny...                                                                  72/4
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From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren)
Date: 22 Apr 97 21:24:42 +0000
Subject: tyres again.....

From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren)

Quoting: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk>

> Nope, the LWB rims are 5.5 inch wide as opposed to 5 inch, and have a
> different offset.
> So are there any problems fitting 7.50s to a normal 90? Surely you 
> dont have to get new rims????????
 
Well, on a 88 it's advisable to use LWB rims. I think the wheel offsets 
were changed on the 90's.

> >get M&S pattern tyres in this size - no pure road patterns :( So I
> >am 
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> No. They are all M and S. with a blocky tread rather than continuous 
> ribs. So hte blocks heat up more and they'll wear quicker. I havent 

My local tyre dealer has some quite nifty 205x16's in stock. They seem 
not too knobbly! Also, the 90's at work have 205x16's on them and they 
seem reasonably road biased!

> My mate is on 7.50s but he advised changing to LWB rims. I'm not keen
> Why is this? Are 7.50s dangerous on normal SWB rims? There seem to be 
> enough out there running em.

Well, I've heard you CAN get away with it, but I would have thought that 
the 5 inch wide wheel would be a tad narrow for a 7.5 inch wide tyre???

I'm not sure, just what my local Landie specialist tells me!
 
Catch you later,
Lenny...                                                                  70/4
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:20:43 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: woolies and elephant hide

john hess wrote:
> <Please> If someone could get the name and or catalog number of the
> material that Woolies sells that looks close to elephant hide, I could ask
> them for a sample, then I could discuss prices and decide if it's what I
> want to recover the dormobile seats with.

I called Woolies 2 years ago, explained what I was looking for, and they
sent a catalog and several samples. The tradename is "leather cloth".

None of the samples are an exact match, but the closest seems to be:
Number 24 Exterior Quality Leathercloth, Grey. Price was #10.55/yard and
54" wide. Compared to 1960 original material the graining is similar but
slightly too fine, and the color has a tinge of blue and lacks the tinge
of green of the original. It may be slightly heavier also. For anything
other than a museum exhibit, or a fanatical concours competitor (with a
LR??) it should be quite satisfactory.

Another possibility is Number 25 Expanded Vinyl, Heavy Grain, Grey.
Price was #7.85/yd and 54" wide. It is a lighter material with a slight
stretch. The grain pattern is not quate as good a match and the color is
more neutral.

Give them a call or fax and ask for samples.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:25:29 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Engine cleaning

Brian Tuffs is breaking down an engine:

>What's the best way for me to start cleaning them?

Well, it won't do for something the size of a block, but for all the other 
bits, I'd suggest you get a parts cleaner from Northern Hydraulics.  Holds 
about 3 gallons of Varsol with this little recirculating pump to wash things 
clean.  I bought one before my engine rebuild, and it was the best $100 I 
ever spent.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Timing chain to gear conversion
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:33:08 +0200 (MET DST)

Wayne,
| I noticed an ad in the back of LRO by Zeus Design of Devon, England that
| sells a gear conversion to replace the timing chain and tensioner on 2.25
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
| problems/horrors encountered? If it works it seems like it would cure the
| sloppy chain syndrome once and for all...
I was on that investigation some month ago, to replace the belt on my 2.5D. 
All I heard was that they work fine, but so far the price has put me off.
Yes, I know, a snapped belt costs far more, but I simply don't have the money.
The Zeus people are very helpful however. When their German distributor
didn't send me the information I wanted, they even sent my a copy of the
installation manual, so I could see, how much work it is.

You may want to contact Marielouise at zeuseng@argonet.co.uk.

Hope this helps a bit.
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
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From: "Quique Salavert" <ensafer@arrakis.es>
Subject: RE: Santana springs & address
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:29:06 +0200

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> De: Chris Youngson <cyoungso@direct.ca>
> A: Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
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> West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> 1965 109 3 door.

Well, I've been searching, and I've met two addresses for Santana motors
here in Spain.

This  is the address of the factory.
SANTANA MOTOR, S. A.
	Ctra. Valdellano, s/n
	23700 LINARES (JAEN)
Telephone number (dialing from Canada) is 01134 53 693050

and this one should be for offices:
SANTANA MOTOR, S. A.
	Avda. Carlos Sainz 35-37
	28914 LEGANÉS (MADRID)
Telephone 01134 1 6851000

I'm not sure, but I think they still make "Santanas", but only a few each
year. They look like Defenders, but in stead of the 300 tdi, they have a
2.5 Diesel (64 Cv.) and parabolic springs.
Note that I said Santanas, and not Land Rover Santanas.

Since some years ago Santana Motor is building some Suzuki cars (known as
Suzuki Santana), like Suzuki Samurai and Vitara.

I hope you get what you want, Chris

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Quique Salavert Ferrer
Cullera, Valencia, España
ensafer@arrakis.es

"No hay razones, solo sensaciones"
Roverless
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