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From: Ian & Sally LEE <misks@pirie.mtx.net.au>
Subject: Timing Belt on Disco
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:54:44 +0930

A friend of mine has broken a timing belt at 43,000 kms as my disco  =
300tdi is coming up to the same time (13months) and distance I would =
like to know if anybody else has had the same problem
I think I will get this checked at 50K service as if not under warranty =
it is a expensive snap
Regards
Ian

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From: IBEdwardp@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:37:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

My 1966 S2a 88 has same arrangement.   Square plate, reinforced inside, 3
bolts,  round plate and all.  Looks as if its been there a long time.  I
don't carry a tire on mine as my particular S2a was made to carry 3 spares
(bonnet, bulkhead and rear).  Is this unusual?  Rear mount provides good
place to carry spare lug nuts which Lurch seems to lose with alarming
regularity (along with lug bolts).  Is this a common problem?  

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Rust? What rust?
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:52:12 +0000

At 11:50 PM 4/18/97 +0000, you wrote:
>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>Fellow Rover-folk,
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)]
>Cheers,
>Wes
>66 SIIA 88" (scattered about my yard)
Wes;

     I would leave it alone...take it to someone who could hot dip galvanize
it.  You would not have to worry about rust removal because they dip it in
an acid bath first to remove all that.  After its galvanized you could paint
it with Galva-grip or something similar so that the top coat will grip to
the galvanized surface then spray it what ever color you wish...
Hope this helps
 
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:15:23 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

IBEdwardp@aol.com wrote:

  New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

  My 1966 S2a 88 has same arrangement.   Square plate, reinforced
  inside, 3
  bolts,  round plate and all.  Looks as if its been there a long
  time.  I
  don't carry a tire on mine as my particular S2a was made to carry 3
  spares
  (bonnet, bulkhead and rear).  Is this unusual?  Rear mount provides
  good
  place to carry spare lug nuts which Lurch seems to lose with
  alarming
  regularity (along with lug bolts).  Is this a common problem?

 Is your mount plate installed in the bottom section of the door or
above the middle cross rail? If it's above the middle - can you get to
the door handle when the tyre is on?

Somebody, somewhere must have a spare on the rear door, and be able to
get to the handle, and use the tow hook - or am I being niaive?

Besides having two spare tyres mounted being useful, it's also useful to
be able to carry two spares on an 88" without using valuable interior
space - I cannot believe I am the first to have this problem!

Several years agop, when filming in Iceland, where the national motto is
"road - what road?", I had the spare mounted on the back (looked good
too!) but I had to turn the towball so it pointed down. My new
Davis-Bates adjustable hitch lets the towball sit about 2" lower, but
the hitch bracket sitcks out further than a standard series bracket (if
there is such a thing) so I must lift the wheel higher up the door if I
want to have my cake and eat it!

I do hope someone on the list has solved this problem - shout!

--
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:40:45 -0700
From: Steve Stoneham <stoneham@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

> I do hope someone on the list has solved this problem - shout!

What if you "shimmed" the spare away from the door another inch or two
to allow access to the handle?
I suppose the bolts would need to be longer also.
Let me know if it works!
Steve

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 12:10:33 -0700
From: Granville Pool <gpool@pacific.net>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

All,

>What if you "shimmed" the spare away from the door another inch or two
>to allow access to the handle?
>I suppose the bolts would need to be longer also.
>Let me know if it works!

I moved mine up quite a way on a '70 88 that I sold a couple of years ago
so don't have it handy to check dimensions.  As I recall, I put the bottom
row of bolts that hold the square plate on at the level where the top ones
were originally.  Seems to me that I was still able to get to my door
handle but that the reach to it may have been a bit awkward.  The tyre I
had mounted there was an old (NLA) Goodyear Wrangler radial in size 7.00x16
(about 30.5" diameter, which I use as a spare for the 31x10.50s which I
have on the ground).

I also seem to recall that I wished that I'd put it up about another inch
or so as I could have a trailer in tow with the tire on but had to remove
the tire from the mount to hitch and unhitch the trailer due to lack of
vertical clearance between the tyre and the trailer ball.  My advice,
therefore, if you are planning to do this, is to hitch and unhitch a
trailer from the ball mount to see how much vertical clearance you need.
Mark this line, line up the tire above that mark (allowing for any intended
increases in tire diameter) and position the tire mount accordingly.  Then
position the tire there again (propped up on jackstands or some such) and
see if you'll be able to get to the rear door handle okay.  Also get inside
and see what it does to your rear vision.

Yes, I think shimming could be used to pull the tyre away from the door a
bit to give better access to the door handle.  Use the little rubber blocks
that are used for the bonnet-mounted spare.  I think the long studs which
go through the lug holes of the spare tyre will allow the inner lugs to be
moved out some, depending upon what size tyre and what off-set wheel you have.

Cheers,

Granny

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:41:16 +0100
From: Mike Cattell <Mike@mikecat.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

In article <bulk.28895.19970419071508@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Adrian
Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> writes
>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>IBEdwardp@aol.com wrote:
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>want to have my cake and eat it!
>I do hope someone on the list has solved this problem - shout!
>---------------------------------------------------
I have exactly the same arrangement as you plan on fitting to your door.
When I aquired my ser3 88 1976 it was impossible to open the door from the
outside, let alone lock it!!

My solution was to put three wheel nuts on the prongs first and then
mounting the wheel tightening the nuts against each other. You can reverse
the wheel for even more room, but the leverage on the back door is
frightening.

Take care of your rear light clusters as they can act as bump stops for the
door :-)

I can now get in and out the back and lock it.  The only problem I can see is
that the load on the two door hinges is high and it would probabally benifit
from a third.

Hope this helps

 
Mike Cattell, Christleton, Cheshire, U.K.
http://www.mikecat.demon.co.uk/
Byways and green lanes in the UK

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:53:49 -0400
From: "J.L. and D.E. Renken" <renken@compuserve.com>
Subject: subscribe

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:09:55 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

Thanks everyone for the tips and advice on rear door tyre mounting -
here is my solution -

The mount plate must be mounted in the upper half of the door, with the
bottom of the mountplate lined up just over the cross-member.

The tyre must be mounted "inside out" with lug-nuts behind /thanks Mike,
actually mine has always been like this! - I just didn't consider that
that would make room to get to the handle).

With this arrangement, my ball-hitch can be used - without removing the
tyre. I have just bought and fitted a super adjustable height hitch, but
with the tyre mounted at this height, the old hitch would have been
useable (but it was still too high for most of the trailers which I can
borrow).

My doors had the complete rebuild at Christmas, so there is not (yet)
any frame wobble whatsoever.

One refinement which I have added (and which i used to have in the lower
position) is a hom,e made rubber gasket between the mountplates and the
doorframe/cladding, this reduces dissimilar metal contact and limits
vibration and wobble - I have used this technique many places on my
series III's and it works wonders.

The whole arrangement works fine - I'll post a picture or two on my
homepage in the next few days so that you can all see it!

For a 22 yr. old she looks beautiful - now I'm wondering about running
boards (ok - not original, but my daughter can barely climb up, and my
77 yr. old mother needs almost hoisting into the cab (who says I don't
need a hi-lift?) - I see that Midtjydsk has original LR running boards,
presumably for the D90 - does anyone know if these also fit a 88"?
Otherwise I'll just weld up my own - I still have a half sheet of
aluminium deckplate in the workshop!

Thanks all.

--
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:06:52 -0700
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

Adrian Redmond wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Thanks everyone for the tips and advice on rear door tyre mounting -
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 57 lines)]
> HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com
> ---------------------------------------------------

Say Allan: Why don't you just fit the folding side steps, Land Rover
original parts and then everyone can climb in with no problem.  By the
way you can buy a hitch by I think Dixon Bates in England that is
adjustable to solve the problem of the ball being at the wrong height. 
You only put it down to hitch up the trailer, the rest of the time you
can put it so the tyre fits.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:03:25 -0700
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: series III spare tyre on rear door

Mike Cattell wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> In article <bulk.28895.19970419071508@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Adrian
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 34 lines)]
> http://www.mikecat.demon.co.uk/
> Byways and green lanes in the UK

If you use threaded grade 8 rods you can make them lone enough to use
the circular plate that comes with the Land Rover that spaces out the
tyre.  You use three nuts to hold the plate away from the body enough to
keep the tyre away and then a second set of three to hold the tyre on
the vehicle.  All my Rovers have had this plate.  
I have been off the net for a few weeks first due to the biggest snow
storm ever in our area.  The Land Rover was one of the only vehicles
moving for a day or two but it needed chains on all four wheels to get
around in fender deep snow.  The snow wasn't all powder because we first
had freezing pellets that packed concrete hard and then it began to blow
and snow.  By the time it ended we had drifts up to thirty feet high in
the tree line and on one street in Selkirk the drift went over a house. 
I took a picture for my kids to remember the "BIG ONE".  Now we have a
500 year flood in our area.  North Dakota has lost most of the dikes it
built in Grand Forks and Fargo and they have the National Guard in
there.  We have more time but everyone is building dikes or arks :-)  I
will be called up next week to helicopter into Morris a ringed dike town
in Southern Manitoba when they move everyone out.  I will be running the
amateur radio station on dike patrols.  It is the kind of thing a Land
Rover with high frame clearance is great for, but even the 6x6 trucks
tha American Army use were in danger of getting swamped yesterday.

On another note, I am going to sell my restored Ser II A  1969 with
birth certificate.  Everything new or fixed like new springs, clutch,
engine redone with everything, new paint, safari rack, rear wiper, 12V
alternator, winch, FWH etc. etc. $10,000 firm, you pick up.  E-Mail me
for more details. Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:53:49 -0700
From: john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: my family, the UK and rovers

Hi,

My little family (me, Katherine and Alex) will be vacationing in the UK
from May2-20.  I am trying to make arrangements to use a friends Dormobile
while we are there;  I am not sure if he will have it insured with me on
the policy by the time we arrive.

We arrive at Heathrow on the 2nd, in the AM.  I want to either meet some
folks at a Dormobile gathering in Paddock Green (south east of London) or
take a train into London for a couple days then head west to Chipping
Norton (north west of London) to meet Barbara Toy.  After meeting Ms. Toy,
we plan on heading west to the coast and taking a ferry to Ireland.

I would like to meet other rover folks along the way. Please email me with
suggestions.

If I am unable to get the Dormobile, I will probably use trains/buses to
get around, renting a car only if I had to.  However, if someone wanted to
offer me a rover to rent for part of this time and we could work out an
agreement, that would be great.  Email me with your thoughts.

Thanks for your time,

John F Hess                       1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us      1984 Mazda GLC "Mazda box"
dormobile homepage:               1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's)
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:21:35 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: RE: Winch/PTO/Overdrive

Tom Rowe wrote:

>Why not Northern's belt drive pump? Mount it like a AC compressor. It
>has an electric clutch to engage/disengage it.

I have considered it.  Though I don't have the dimensions on it, the picture 
in the catalogue *looked* to big to fit in the already crowded engine bay of 
the Disco.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: JSmallals@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:29:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fuel system

Help!!!!!
I have a 1966 88'' 2A, that won't stay running.  The problem is definately in
my fuel system.  When I purchased the vehicle three months ago, I had to tow
it home due to the truck "lurching".  Once I got it home, I boiled out the
gas tank, replaced the fuel lines, rebuilt the fuel pump and the carb (a
rochester mono-jet).  After that, the truck ran fine for two months.  

Last week, it started lurching again.  (I can't even get two miles.)  I
pulled the fuel line from the carb and placed it in a bottle, started the
truck and watched the fuel pump work.  It is a mere drip!  I pulled the fuel
pump off again, and I can't find anything wrong with it.  Has anyone ever
heard of fuel pumps just wearing out?  I'm considering putting an electric
fuel pump on it. 

Any suggestions would be extremely helpful, as i'm losing my sanity.

thanks,
J. Small
jsmallals@aol.com

P.S. I am assuming the gas tank is venting o.k..  Is there anyway to check
this?

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:59:54 -0700
From: Fred Schwartz <fns@primenet.com>
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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:53:05 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Re: What rust?

Wesley Harris writes:

>Does anyone out there know of some sort of propreitary high-tech goop
>that removes rust?

The best stuff that I've found is "Ospho".  I imagine there are a dozen 
products like it - basically phosphoric acid - that converts iron oxide into 
the much more chemically stable iron phosphate.  Brushes on like water, 
turns rust black.  Just don't spray it....<cough> <hack> <choke>

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:52:04 -0700
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel system

JSmallals@aol.com wrote:

> P.S. I am assuming the gas tank is venting o.k..  Is there anyway to > check this?

Run it with the fuel filler cap off.

Cheers, Greg

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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:13:08 -0500
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel system

Hi J.
 I rebuilt the fuel pump on my 109 SW not long ago & had the same
problem.  I thought I had done something wrong during the rebuild &
being pressed for time add a electric between the pump & carb just to
move the car around in my yard.  The result after a few minutes was the
rebuilt pump started to work & pump correctly.  Drawing fuel through the
pump with the electric pump seemed to prime it.  I removed the electric
pump & it has run ever since.
 You may find this solves the problem for you also.  Good Luck.

Regards, 
Rob Davis_chicago

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