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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:30:15 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Seeking ajr

Dear all,
        Alan J. Richer, could you please email me a mailing address or fax
number. I have a bill and a list of work done that I would like you to have
for your files. Thanks.

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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From: David W Scott <birddog@atl.mindspring.com>
Subject: wiring. positive to negative change
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:27:53 -0600

Can someone tell me the steps to change from positive to negative =
ground.  I just found out to run the alternator that I have put on =
prince charles I will have to convert grounds. 
     Someone wanted Nissonger"s info.  ph. no.  914 381 1952.  They =
charged 116 bucks delivered for the smith oil temp combo guage.  I sent =
them the bare guage they sent it back as new with the temp sending unit =
cable etc.  the oil connecting hose was not provided but I had one that =
would work.  Thanks birddog

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:05:23 -0700 (MST)
From: Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>
Subject: Rochester Carb Questions...

With all the talk of carb conversions lately, I found a source for these 
1954 Chev Rochester carbs in question... About $110CDN. My question is: 
does anyone that's done this converiosn know the Rochester number of this 
carb? The one I've been quoted on is a #7003526. I have no idea what jets 
or venturi this carb has, and the parts store can't tell me either, 
without bring one in. Also, is this a better way of going versus the Weber 
1bbl (without considering the 100% or so price penalty? 

Thanks, 
Rob

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:31:31 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Re:Dual oil/Temp gague

>What  is the name of the place that rebuilds the dual oil/Temp gague? I think
>it is Nisonger but I can't remember the rest..

        It is Nisonger, they are in Long Island NY, Mamoroneck or some odd
name like that. Steve, I have the numbers on the other computer, email if
you need them.
        The cost of rebuilding a gauge if you have all the parts, but it
just needs work is about 95 dollars.

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:34:52 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: ECR Read ONLY if interested, VERY LONG!!

>Dear all,
>        Ok since I'm on the list... I guess I'll stick up for myself. For
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 68 lines)]
>    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
>               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:32:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg%AM@MR>
Subject: re:ecr & Registration

Chris,
Do you have the name and address of the gentleman in the UK who originally
owned the vehicle?  If so it may be easier to get him to send you a bill of
sale and copy of registration. 

  I had difficulty registering my Rover in Tenn. ( British Documents said
nothing about title just had Registration on them.)  

The other course may be to contact the shipping company. If you know who that
was.  As it seemed to me that the import documents and registration were in
their possession for a period of time and maybe your friendly neighborhood
importer has not requested them or is so disorganized they don't know where
they're at.  

I did ask a lawyer friend about import and he said that in Tenn. it would cost
about $250.00 to prove ownership as long as there was no contest.  Since you
have the keys and correspondence it may be easier.

Good Luck
Paul G
SIII SWB "Grendal"

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:33:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: wiring. positive to negative change

On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, David W Scott wrote:

> Can someone tell me the steps to change from positive to negative ground.  
> I just found out to run the alternator that I have put on prince charles 
> I will have to convert grounds.

	Or get a 16ACR alternator from the Price of Darkness and flip
	the diodes in the stack so it is a +ve earth alternator...
	

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:34:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: ECR Read ONLY if interested, VERY LONG!!

On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, East Coast Rover Co. wrote:

> >Dear all,
> >        Ok since I'm on the list... I guess I'll stick up for myself. For
> 	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 68 lines)]
	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	   Damn, denied!  :-)

	   68 lines?  This is gonna be good...

	

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:42:26 +0100
From: Floris Houniet <Houniet@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: Safari Gard

Alexander P. Grice wrote:

> Just took delivery of a Safari Gard bumper/brush guard and skid plate.
> Folks, I'm here to tell ya' (and to borrow from a popular ad), "it don't get
> any better than this."

Where did you get it? Who made it..... I want it!

Floris

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From: "John J. Tackley" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:17:28 -500
Subject: seats, new and old

Just some thoughts on seats...
Picked up a set of Trackers cloth seats from a wreck that were 'like new', to 
replace my original LR Deluxe vinyl (Genuine' Nauga - hide') seats that 
had been reupholstered with Duct tape.  Many times had they been 
'Stuck't & Duct'.  After installing the Trackers and goin for a short 
ride, I noticed that my butt was 'bottoming out' on the seat base.  
Never happened with the originals.
So, like Tim the Toolman says, I 're-worked' them. 
Took the covers off both the Trackers and the originals.  Eureka !  
What a revelation ! The difference in quality of materials and 
general design was remarkable.
Trackers use cheap foam (surprise !) in 2 
densities glued together.  Actually it was several pieces of what 
looked like scraps glued together to the proper dimensions.  Then the 
foam is glued to the thin .25 in. plywood base and the cover is glued 
(spray adhesive in both cases) to the foam. 
The originals use 4 different types and densities of foam.  The 
center of the seat bottom uses a high quality molded rubber waffle foam in 2 
seperated sections, the front bolster and a butt cushion.  Turn 
your original cushion over and you will find a metal pan in the 
center.  This actually extends the depth of the cushion so 
your butt can't bottom out as easily.  It is lined with a different 
type of foam, like the rug padding that looks like a bunch of chunks 
pressed together.  The side bolsters are made up of 2 seperate types 
and densities of foam glued together; stiffer and more resilient on 
the outside half and slightly softer on the inside half, but stiffer 
than the center section.  Now the cover.  It is high quality vinyl.  
Sewed to the center ribbed section only is a fabric 'box' if you will 
that extends down between the foam section on all 4 sides into that 
metal pan.  This accomplishes 2 things.  1st, it keeps the cover in 
place firmly; 2nd, it allows each section of foam (the 2 sides and the 
front bolsters) to move vertically independent of each other, since 
there is a layer of muslin fabric seperating them.  The design 
complexity surprised me, as well as the number of steps required in 
manufacture.  Absolutely no doubt as to which seat was of higher 
quality.  The originals  were clearly superior in every detail, 
except of course the covers were suffering from terminal 'Stuck't & 
Duct' disease, although it took 20+ years to get that way.  
The obvious solution was to put the new Tracker cloth covers on the 
original seat bottoms !  Now I have the best of both worlds.  A 
comfortably supportive seat with a cloth cover that will be more 
comfortable in both hot and cold weather, but, alas, can't possibly 
be as durable as those original 'Nauga-hides'.  I highly recommend 
keeping the original seats and acquiring new covers.  
Now I have the original covers off to use as patterns for making new 
covers.  Thinking about using leather for the replacements.  
Anyone out there know of a good re-upholsterer who works with 
leather?  Does anyone know if just the seat covers can be obtained, 
original or otherwise,without having to buy the entire cushion ?
Any body got some old original seats they want to part 
with?  E-mail me direct....
L8r.
*** John J. Tackley, Richmond, VA ***
* '74 SIII 88" "Gen. Lee" *
* '81 300SD *
* '89 FLHS "OINK" (That'l do, pig) *

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From: "John J. Tackley" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:53:40 -500
Subject: VIN Violation

>Bren asked about violating VINs.

VINs are frequently 'violated'.  Thats the reason for the 'screws'.

So don't let this opportunity pass you by....
                                                                      
*** John J. Tackley, Richmond, VA ***
* '74 SIII 88" "Gen. Lee" *
* '81 300SD *
* '89 FLHS "OINK" (That'l do, pig) *

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.crane.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:41:00 -500
Subject: Owl's Head Repost Wanted

Can someone please send me info on the Owl's Head LR gathering in
June.  I believe it was posted about a month ago, but I cannot find it.
Thanks.  Mark

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From: Alain-Jean PARES <Alain-Jean.Pares@InfoRoute.cgs.fr>
Subject: Is there somebody here ?
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:56:53 +0100

I think the lro list is down, could someone give me the confirmation about it ?
The uk list seems to be still here.

Alain-Jean PARES
Paris, FRANCE

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:53:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Owl's Head Repost Wanted

On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Mark Gehlhausen wrote:

> Can someone please send me info on the Owl's Head LR gathering in
> June.  I believe it was posted about a month ago, but I cannot find it.
> Thanks.  Mark

	June 28-29
	Camden area of Maine.
	Assume it will be similar to last year, thus...
	http://www.off-road.com/RoverWeb/Events/annual_events.html
	for a start...

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:11:46 -0500 (EST)
From: cmw@tiac.net (Christopher Weinbeck)
Subject: ECR & Registration

Hi again.

I just got (2/14) a fax from Mike Smith / East Coast Rover 
Co. asking me to disregard an invoice that was recently sent to me (covering
fees associated with making my truck registerable).

I've not yet recieved the bill.

Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Christopher Weinbeck       Office Logic, Inc.      V (508) 392-0288
   _______                  7 Littleton Road        F (508) 692-0897   
  |__][_[_\__               Westford, MA 01886    Computerization for 
  |___\_|_]__]                                      the healthcare
    (o)    (o)  '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional        
 
               Ask me about East Coast Rover Co.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:57:18 -0500
From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com (Hank Lapa)
Subject: Overriders, Tow Loops Wanted

     Anyone have subject items for a Series front bumper surplus to their 
     own needs and available for sale before I go the retail route??  
     Sources in continental US preferred, I guess.
     
     Thanks in advance,
     Hank

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:02:04 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: ECR Read ONLY if interested, VERY LONG!!

At 10:34 AM 2/14/97 -0400, East Coast Rover Co. wrote:
:>Dear all,
:>        Ok since I'm on the list... I guess I'll stick up for myself. For
:	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 68 lines)]
:>    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
:>               Series Coil Chassis Specialists
:
:From: Mike Smith
:East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
:21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
:Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
:    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
:               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

 Well [ truncated by lro-lite (was 68 lines)] said!!!

 Regards,
                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                  72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers
 Architect             [________]               www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)__.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:32:05 -0800 (PST)
From: sosn7667@uwwvax.uww.edu (Christopher R. Sosnay)
Subject: Name of this list?

Hey
What is the name of this list?  I am having troubble unsubribing because I
don't know the name of the list,
Thanks
"The more one does and sees and feels, the more one is able to do..."
Amelia Earhart

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:42:22 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Tubes for Tubeless Tyres

c.butter@umds.ac.uk (Colin Butter) complains about punctures using tubes in 
tubeles tyres.

The standard answer seems to be:
Make sure there's no tags on the inside.
Use Michelin tubes, they are made for tubeless. "Common" tubes can't stand 
the constant action of the sidewalls of tubeless and wear our real quick.
No own experience yet - my BFG are still in a neat stack in the garage!
Good luck
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:42:19 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: 109 chassis

David W Scott <birddog@atl.mindspring.com> wanted to know:

>Is there any difference between a series 11a 109 pickup frame and a 109 =
>SW frame?  Does anyone know a source for washers to isolate the aluminum =
>body parts from the steel components to prevent corrosion?   Prince =
>Charles is finally getting close to a running chassis.  thanks in =
>advance.  birddog

Not totally sure about the 109, but there are several big differences 
between 107 S/W and pickup chassis, the main one being in the point where 
the chassis swerves up - much earlier in the pickup, later in the S/W to 
accomodate the rear seats.

Some people use thin plastic washers between steel and aluminum. Thin rubber 
washers can also beused if there is enough clearance. In most cases a good 
coat of paint on both surfaces will do the trick.
Good luck, and I envy you
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:45:32 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Name of this list?

At 12:32 PM 2/14/97 -0800, Christopher R. Sosnay wrote:
:
:Hey
:What is the name of this list?  I am having troubble unsubribing because I
:don't know the name of the list,
:Thanks
:"The more one does and sees and feels, the more one is able to do..."
:Amelia Earhart

 Amelia,

 "Hey", the name of this list is the same name as all the messages
 go to....
        Land-Rover-Owner
 To unsubscribe write to the Major at...  Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
 with the message in the text area...     unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner

 See, it's easy if you know how ;)

-Michael
  
 

 

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:32:55 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Judge Dredd

Saw this on the Brit-pooper list:

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

* * * * * * ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS * * * * *

  To: british-cars@autox.team.net
  From: omicron@paston.co.uk (Omicron Engineering Ltd / Andrew Cliffe)
  Reply-To: omicron@paston.co.uk (Omicron Engineering Ltd / Andrew 
Cliffe)

Just seen in an advert that a Judge Dredd Land Rover is for sale at about
UKP 10,000.   This is I presume a replica of the ones in Stallones "Judge
Dredd" Movie.

Any interest out there?

Andrew

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From: ppinheiro@ip.pt
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:40:07 +0000
Subject: Help needed

 Hi!  Before you get mad at me :-), there's LR content in this:  I'm 
selling my BMW to pay for my Series IIA.  And as I've noticed that 
many people here also own BMWs, could anyone that has experience 
tuning the carburetor ones (an 1988 316) please e-mail me directly 
(ppinheiro@ip.pt), and not to any of the lists, as I need some help 
in tuning it, to sell the car in perfect order.

 Thank you very much,            Pedro

'67 LR SIIA 88" Diesel 'Oscar' 24430781D
'90 RR with the VM Turb(ulent) Diesel 
AFS Exchange Student - Missouri, US, during 1993-94

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:06:16 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: seats, new and old

I wouldn't advise leather, as you can't expect it to live long if you, 
like I, clean out the interior with the garden hose.
It also won't resist abrasion from the hi-lift and the kid's shoes and 
the dog's feet.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:38:24 +0100
From: Floris Houniet <Houniet@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: please, make it stop

David Place wrote:

> Michael K. Jablonski wrote:
> >  This is truly an epidemic of unreal proportions.  I go away for a short
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> >    MKJTo uns*bscribe just send the message to Majordomo@playground.Sun.Com not
> the usual address you use and put uns*bscribe in the text of the message.

Well, in that case we've just lost David......

FLoris (not unsubcrib...)

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:20:59 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: ECR

Dear all,
        Guess I'm glad the 68 extra lines of my useless venting didn't hit
the main list. I have been off the list for a week or two, so who knows
what is going on. For those who know us well, you know what we are about...
for others, keep the faith and remember you can't please everyone. I think
we are doing pretty well. 3.5 years as a full time Rover place, with 3
nasty client incodents, I'd like to have none, but I'll have to settle for
1 bad time per year.
        Have a great day all!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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From: wleacock@pipeline.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:40:16 -0500
Subject: Drive shaft vibration

Eric writes 
Is it possibe to repair the slip joint in a Landy driveshaft?  My 1973 Ser
III has a seriously  annoying vibration over about 40 mph that disappears if
the free wheel hubs
 One thing to check, after ensuring that the bearings are in good condition
is the phasing of the Hookes joints. 
Careful cleaning around the slide joint should reveal a couple of arrows
which should be in line. If at some time the shaft has been re assembled by
someone ignorant of the importance of phasing, this could cause vbiration
problems. The  alternative is to take it to a drive shaft shjop and have
them check the balance. you can even balance the shaft yourself if you are
patient. Fit a couple of hose clamps to the shaft and see if the vibration
is worse or better, then move them a few degrees and try again, keep trying
until you find the best position.

 Regards  

Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: wleacock@pipeline.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:52:05 -0500
Subject: Frame

From: David W Scott 

Is there any difference between a series 11a 109 pickup frame and a 109 =
SW frame?

  Yes, but only slight, the mountings for the front of rear bodies are
different, the bits on the outigger for the rear of the fuel tank on the non
sw frame. Some sw frames do not have the front fuel tank outrigger.

 regards  Bill leacock
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: wleacock@pipeline.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:58:45 -0500
Subject: tubes

: c.butter writes 

I recently had my 110 Defender fitted with BFG Track Edge tyres.   The 
wheels are LR standard, so tubes were fitted.  Since this time I've had five 
puctures, two of them requireing new tyres.  Some LR owning friends have 
since told me that this is a known problem with these tyres, and occures for 
two reasons:

1. "Tags" may get left on the inside wall of the tyre, resulting in tube 
abbrasion

2. the interior ribs of the tyre itself wear the tube.

  Yes it is a well known problem that any COMPETANT tyre fitter should know.
In the UK there are two types of innertube, ones made for radial tyres and
ones made for cross ply tyres. Fitting cross ply tubes into radial tyres is
a recipe for punctures. There are a lot of imported tubes that are basically
of poor quality which a lot of tyre fitters sell as good.
 My advise, buy only MIchelin or Avon inner tubes, specify that tubes for
radial tyres are required.
 In a radial tyre there is a lot of movement in the sidewalls, this causes
the tube and the tyre to rub, radial tyres have internal ribs which will
eventually cut into the harder material of a cross ply tube.
 If it does not state specifically on the tube that is suitable for a radial
tyre then do not use them.

 Regards  Bill Leacock  Limey in exile.
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:58:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ECR & Registration problems

In a message dated 13/02/97  18:18:04, you write:

<< I haven't seen the bill yet -maybe it's for ten bucks, in which case I
won't
 flip -but I may be harboring a doubt or two.
 
 Any comments or suggestions??
  >>

Hi there

Sorry I'm a bit late back on this one but I've been busy.  I find the costs
you quote frightening...  I have a 93 Explorer outside that cost $900 to ship
over to the UK from CA.  Thought number two is that in the UK it is possible
to get registration documents from DVLC by applying for them giving the
registration number and registered owner,  in the UK the registration
document just says who the registered keeper is and not who owns it.  You may
get away with just the reg docs if you take this route.

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:14:57 -0500 (EST)
From: cmw@tiac.net (Christopher Weinbeck)
Subject: re:ecr & Registration (fwd)

 Paul Gussack wrote;

>Chris,
>Do you have the name and address of the gentleman in the UK >who originally
owned the vehicle?  If so it may be easier >to get him to send you a bill of
sale and copy of >registration. 

It's not that simple, it seems.  In order for documents from England to be
any use I need the important ones -a Certificate of Permanent Export, Used
Car Invoice and the Bill of Lading.  All of which East Coast Rover should
have had in order to bring my 109" into the country in the first place.

They said they don't have them.

...
>The other course may be to contact the shipping company. If >you know who
that was. 

Yah, /if/ I knew who that was.  I can always call Customs and ask them for
copies of the records they must have for my VIN number.

>As it seemed to me that the import 
>documents and registration were in their possession for a >period of time
and maybe your friendly neighborhood
>importer has not requested them or is so disorganized they >don't know
where they're at.  

I agree that they should have had those documents, they bought and imported
the truck for me.

Again, though, they said they don't have them.

Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Christopher Weinbeck       Office Logic, Inc.      V (508) 392-0288
   _______                  7 Littleton Road        F (508) 692-0897   
  |__][_[_\__               Westford, MA 01886    Computerization for 
  |___\_|_]__]                                      the healthcare
    (o)    (o)  '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional        
 
               Ask me about East Coast Rover Co.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:08:30 -0400
Subject: Re: ECR

When we hear that the shipping paperwork has been delivered, that might be
a reason to let it lie.

Questions have been asked - are there answers?

If there are, they'd be interesting to hear.

I am not taking sides here, but not all has been rendered to completion.

               aj"And the truth shall set you free"r

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:35:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ecr & Registration (fwd)

In a message dated 14/02/97  23:17:02, you write:

<< Yah, /if/ I knew who that was.  I can always call Customs and ask them for
 copies of the records they must have for my VIN number.
  >>

Another thought occurs to me.....  In the UK customs are really bad news..
 they have powers far in excess of the police,  they can drag a businessman
out of bed at 6.00 am and tear his home apart and go through his paperwork
etc..  If you get on to your customs enough maybe they'll think that maybe
the guys who have kept the paperwork etc. are not keeping accurate books and
want to know why..  Then the poeple with your paperwork might want to get
thier house in order (so to speak)..

Only a thought....

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:42:45 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Safari Gard

At  8:42 PM 2/14/97 +0100, Floris Houniet wrote:

>Alexander P. Grice wrote:
;
>> Just took delivery of a Safari Gard bumper/brush guard and skid plate.
;> Folks, I'm here to tell ya' (and to borrow from a popular ad), "it don't get
>> any better than this."
;
>Where did you get it? Who made it..... I want it!
;
>Floris
;
The Safari Gard company makes Safari Gard bumpers.  I have seen sets on the
front and rear of Discoverys.  This along with their side guards are the
best of class products as far as I have seen.  It makes the Discovery look
like an off road vehicle.  They don't look that way from the factory...But
they should!

           |   "The Green Rover"
           |    1960 109 two door
           |    with Dormobile top
           |
           | _______     ____
        .==|"======="==='    `==============.
       /   |                                 \
       |  .|________________________________.|
       |/  |     ___________________     .. \|
      ,|___|____/ _________________ \____||__|,
       | .-|-. | |                 | | .-||. |
       | | | | | |                 |'%,| ||| |         TeriAnn Wakeman
       | | | | | |                 | | |.||| |           Santa Cruz
    _  | | | | | |_________________| | ||||| |  _        California
   (_) | | | | |                     | ||||| | (_)
      \| `-|-' |         ==         '% ||||' |/     twakeman@scruznet.com
      ,'===|===|=====================|=||||===`
      |(o) |  0||        ||         ||0||||(o)|
      |(o) o   ||        ||         || ||||(o)|
      ||  ==   ||        ||         || ||||  ||
      || ____  ||        ||         || ||||__||
      |||7050| ||        ||         || |____/||
      || ----  ||________||_________||   ||  ||
      ||_______|_____________________|___||__||
      | |     |        | _ |          |     | |
      |_|_____|________[ - ]__________|_____|_|
      |  Land  |~~~~~~~~'~~~.___/~~~~| Land   |
      |    /   |                     |   /    |
      |  Rover |                     | Rover  |
      |________|                     |________|
       |\\~//|                         |\\~//|
       |_\_/_|                         |_\_/_|

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:00:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Dual oil/Temp gague

In a message dated 97-02-14 14:27:34 EST, you write:

> It is Nisonger, they are in Long Island NY, Mamoroneck or some odd
>name like that. Steve, I have the numbers on the other computer, email if
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>        The cost of rebuilding a gauge if you have all the parts, but it
>just needs work is about 95 dollars.

Mike;
   Please send me the phone numbers its for a friend without internet access
Thanks
Rgds
Steve

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:23:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: seats, new and old

In a message dated 97-02-14 16:19:45 EST, you write:

<< I wouldn't advise leather, as you can't expect it to live long if you, 
 like I, clean out the interior with the garden hose.
 It also won't resist abrasion from the hi-lift and the kid's shoes and 
 the dog's feet. >>

I guess it depends on the quality of leather and its finish.  Our tack does
just fine in the the pouring rain, snow and deep creeks as well as copious
horse sweat with little more than a wipe down with a damp cloth and
occasional conditioner.  As for abrasion, I would suggest leather will hold
up better foxhunting through a dense forest with brambles on a galloping
horse than vinyl or naugaHide.  However, dog claws and other sharp objects
will cause irreparable damage.

Of course, saddlery leather is heavier duty than most upholstery leather and
probably is quite $$$.

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:38:34 -0700
From: john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: re:ECR & Registration problems

All:

Chris has been through a bad situation.  I had never heard the "whole"
story before but knew he had problems with ECR.

My dealings must be viewed as much better.  I bought a Dormobile from Mike
in 1994 and drove it 4000 miles home.  Only problems were a busted wheel
and speedo cable.  When I think of the problems I could have had, I still
get scared.

Thanks go to Jeff Aronson (newsletter editor of the Rovers North
newsletter) and Ted Howard (Howards Garage in Maine).  They inspected the
Dormobile and reported on its condition.

Please don't think this is a plug, but before I bought the Dormobile, I
checked the LROA membership directory and called people with the same or
similar zip codes as Mike Smith.  Jeff was one.  Myles Murphy was another.
Myles recommended Howards garage.

I know rovers are becoming more sought after and more people are crazy like
me, driving all over to get a rover.  PLEASE check with this list or some
other sources for help.  I am willing to help look at rovers in the
Sacramento area.  I know others who will help in the SF bay area.  Call up
members of clubs in the area where you want to get the rover of your
dreams.  Do people remember email about Big Sky rovers?

The best advice I ever got was before I bought my Tiger:  Join a club or
two or 5, buy books, hang out, talk to folks and LEARN.

happy roving,

John F Hess                       1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us      1984 Mazda GLC "Mazda box"
dormobile homepage:               1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's)
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:15:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Jason Silk <jsilk@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: camel trophy decals 

I have an empty plate holder on the front of my D90 and I would love to 
put a Camel Trophy decal on there, if anyone knows where I can purchase 
any of these decals please let me know.
		Thank you very much,
				Jason Silk
			jsilk@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:42:35 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Rochester Carb on a 2.25 LR

>From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:46:48 -0500 (EST)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>On Tue, 11 Feb 97, David Bobeck wrote: where would one get such a carb and
>would it bolt straight on?

I installed a Rochester carburetor on the Series III I purchased new in
1973.  I installed the Rochester in 1978 and ran it for about three years.
It gave marginally better performance, and the design eliminates the
warping problem that plagues the Zenith 36IV and causes it to run rich and
stall when stationary and facing uphill.  However, the mileage with the
Rochester was noticably less than the Zenith.  But the biggest disadvantage
of the Rochester is that it apparently feeds a leaner mixture to the
engine, which hastens exhaust valve burning.  This is what happened to me
on cylinders 2 and 3.  I have since gone back to the Zenith.  My
performance went down, my mileage went up, and I haven't burned any exhaust
valves.

As far as the installation of the Rochester was concerned, it was a bolt-on
conversion using an adapter supplied with the kit.  The only modification
needed is to cut an inch or so off the lower end of the metal elbow that
feeds air into the venturi.  The Rochester sticks up higher than the
Zenith, and if you don't cut back the elbow it will hit the underside of
the hood.

I was quite pleased with the performance and reliability of the Rochester,
but although I still have mine, I would not reinstall it again.  I would
also not convert to a Weber unless there was a way of utilizing the Land
Rover's original oil-bath air cleaner.  That air cleaner has kept a
tremendous amount of dirt out of my engine, and was invaluable after the
eruption of Mt. St. Helens.  I don't believe a dry filter is nearly as
effective.

_________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 04:02:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: wiring. positive to negative change

In a message dated 97-02-14 15:33:12 EST, you write:

<< the Price of Darkness >>

I think this is a good slogan for Lucas:

Lucas electrics, the Price of Darkness.

Nate

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