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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 97 7:04:02 EST

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Wiper Motor
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 97 23:39:00 EST

Keith,

I've just looked in the 4WD (Melbourne Australia) catalogue and the SIIA 
SIII cable type wiper motor is A$185 = $US148.
They also stock a conversion plate for single speed to two speed.  A$40.

The earlier type wiper motor for 1948 up the cable type  is A$80

What, you don't have a catalogue?

Send a message to Anda Lawson.  I am not sure how much their catalogues are 
posted overseas but I think you can look up their web site and order that 
way.  Going from memory it is something like http://www.4wd.com.au.   Anda??

Usual Disclaimers

Regards,

Ron

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 97 09:22 SAT
From: jtrisott@reuna.cl (JLTrisotti)
Subject: Serie I parts

Hi All :
I am restoring my 80" 1953 , now I am working in the electrical parts as
Dynamo and Starter . In the case of the dynamo I prefer not change by a non
original Delco alternator replacement . My idea is to work original as like
as possible .
First : Am I in a right way ? or It s not very important to restore that ,
and Where can I find part or a replacement kit ?.

In the case of the starter , it s in very bad condition , What number or
Lucas Model is? Are there any compatible starter ? Do you have any dealer
for it ( with email address )

thanks

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From: "wrecker" <neilwarburton@enterprise.net>
Subject: FOR SALE  S11A swb in Engalnd
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:17:59 -0000

FOR SALE.					     
1964 S11A SWB LAND-ROVER.Green and White
3.0 litre V6 Ford petrol engine fitted (Steve Parker conversion).
Safari top with alpine lights original talilgate.
Truck Cab as well.
one peice windscreen with tripple wipers.
Michelein 205x16 MS tyres(good tread).
11" drums on front.
Just had new clutch,half shafts,front and rear uj's,fuel tank and a  new
back box on the exhaust.
Long tax and M.O.T
Vgood condition through out.
Fsat and reliable not to bad on petrol(better than a V8)
Reluctant sale.
Price £1,900 ovno
Located in Derby Engalnd.

RGDS Wrecker.
neilwarburton@enterprise.net
Land-Rover better than the rest.

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 15:04:38 +0200
From: Marko Ylikorpi <marko.ylikorpi@bart.lpt.fi>
Subject: VW-diesel

Hello,

There has been a lot talk about putting Chevy-engines into the LR, but has
anybody tried a Volkswagen diesel.  A friend of mine has a SIII lwb with no
engine.  I could get a 1,6 litre VW turbodiesel for a very reasonable price.
It has been built in -87 (probably) but has been used only in some
prototypes for some hours and is like new.  We thought it might be a good
project, but first we would like to hear your comments.

Marko Ylikorpi
Lahti, Finland

SIIA 88 -61

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:11:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Coast Guard

In a message dated 07/02/97  10:09:52, sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com
wrote:

<< Guess Jamie Wilson needs to check his sources better :-)
 
 Just goes to show the problems you can have if you go with an inferior 4x4!
 
  >>
I cut and pasted from the newsfeed to my e-mail so what I posted was my
source, and it clearly stated Land Rover.

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:11:44 -0500
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Wiper Motor /4WD html...

At 23:39 97-02-07 EST, you wrote:

>What, you don't have a catalogue?
>Send a message to Anda Lawson.  I am not sure how much their catalogues are 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>posted overseas but I think you can look up their web site and order that 
>way.  Going from memory it is something like http://www.4wd.com.au.   Anda??
Actually, it is http://www.fwd.com.au/

Salutations, 

Michel

Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

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From: Xavier541@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:24:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Window Channels

Does anyone have any tips or advice on installing front: top and bottom
channels in a 1973 SIII.

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 07:25:38 -0600
From: Rob Davis_Chicago <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: : Fw: INTERNET USE CHARGES!

Hi All,
 Sorry for the non LR Message but it is FYI
 ----------
 From: 4 Freedoms <4freedoms@usa.net>
 To:
 Subject: INTERNET USE CHARGES!
 Date: Tuesday, February 04, 1997 9:36 AM

 INTERNET USE CHARGES!

 This is of urgent concern to all users of the internet. Please be
 advised and take immediate action to protect your existing benefits.

 ==============URGENT BULLETIN===============

 The Bell Companies, and a number of other smaller telephone companies
 have petitioned the FCC to institute per minute charges for use of the
 Internet.

 The FCC has arranged for an opportunity to make OUR VOICES heard as
 well. BEFORE FEBRUARY 12, 1997 --

 Send a message to: isp@fcc.gov

 and urge the FCC to refuse to allow the telephone companies to profit
 DOUBLE by charging per minute fees, over and above the fees they
 already charge internet service providers to lease lines!

 Please take a moment to pass this message on to everyone you can thing
 of. Just hit "forward" and send the whole message to folks in your
 address book (use BCC: to protect their privacy!)

 Thanks--
 Al Link
 4 Freedoms

 =========LIFETRONIX - SCIENCE BRINGS THE SOLUTION=========
     The Ultimate Auto-Pilot Business: on-line/off-line
           http://www.4freedoms.on.ca/4flifet.html
 =============== 1-800-678-5522 ext.93191 =================

-- 
Rob Davis_chicago

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 09:18:05 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <Rob_MacCormick@harvard.edu>
Subject: conversions, engines et. al.

Heck, our land rover was converted from day one.....Some guys named Marty
and Wally got their hands on it and hacked the roof, put in some lawn
chairs, a kitchenette, and some other trinkets....Then some Star Trek
mechanic put in a Chevy I-6, passed it over to some other joker who swapped
the rear axle, added ten or so extra leaves to each wheel, added a few
dozen aircraft toggle switches, 5 or 6 layers of flooring material, a 1/2
dozen mercury switches, 2 kilometers of wire, and an air raid siren...The
next owner sprayed paint all over it and made a few $'s noting that the
tranny was quiet and the steering was not quite left.....The next owner was
probably whipped by some purists and as a result kept it in a barn and
drove it once or twice a year when noone was looking (I think he even added
extra bonnet latches to prevent anyone from looking inside the engine
bay!).....Then (you still there? Phew...Almost finished with this
nonsense)....Some impractical sorts from where the land is flat
(Massachusetts) were skipping along one day hand in hand (tra la la la la)
and spied this abdomination (actually a black and white photo of it laid in
their hands by the 109 frame rich, coil sprung, free advice, guy from
Maine) and following some scribblin', chin scratchin', (and general higher
math) bought it.......So.....to these folks: Marty, Wally, ????, Tom,
Lloyd, Mike...."Thank you....for a real good time" And this is just the
beginning!!!! Rob M Concord, MA USA Ser. IIa dorkmobile

PS I have every respect for purists....I just don't think I have what it
takes to be one...

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:27:58 -0500
From: "Ed O'Neil" <Ed_ONeil@compuserve.com>
Subject: Maps

Keith,

I was down to the topo map place on Adelaide and Church but all the maps
that pertain to JAmes Bay are on order!I ordered some that are in 1/ 250
000 scale. And one that is at 1/ 1 000 000. That should show us north of
Fort Geoge from just north nof Val d'Dor.

The first two days of next week are free for me so if you would like to set
up a meeting that would be great.

Ed O'Neil
416 462 9289

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From: Tim Harincar <harincar@camworks.com>
Subject: re: Who let out the Lucas demon this time???
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:32:48 -0600

> Now fess up! Who's the joker that started this "I broke my half shaft"
> thread!

*Started* it? I've been on this list for 2 and a half years and its been going on the whole time. :-) 

Probably the guy who drove the prototype *really* started it...

Tim
---
tim harincar
harincar@camworks.com
Camworks, minneapolis, mn

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:00:11 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: VW-diesel

Marko,

  I could get a 1,6 litre VW turbodiesel for a very reasonable price.
>It has been built in -87 (probably) but has been used only in some
>prototypes for some hours and is like new.  We thought it might be a good
>project, but first we would like to hear your comments.

        Not a good choice. To small and not enough torque and the torque
comes at the wrong place. Its also not an "industrial strength" unit. It's
designerd to push around an 1800 pound car, be freely revved and driven
like a petrol engine. Put it in a 3300 pound beheamoth (empty) with 32 inch
tall tires, 4.77-1 gearing and the aerodynamic characteristics of a brick,
you'd soom be sweeping the remains of this engine up off the ground.
        On the highway,the only thing slower and more anemic than a
standard Land Rover diesel is a 180D Mercedes. Install the VW and watch the
180D guys blast past you with glee.In the dirt, it's doubtful it would have
the torque to run the tires through a muddy rut.

        Jim Allen

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: VW-diesel
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:04:47 +0100 (MET)

Jim responds to Marko:
|   I could get a 1,6 litre VW turbodiesel for a very reasonable price.
| >It has been built in -87 (probably) but has been used only in some
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
|         Not a good choice. To small and not enough torque and the torque
| comes at the wrong place.
If one would like to go the VW way (why should anybody ;-) the I'd 
take the VW 6cyl. diesel they put into the LT28 transporter and into 
some Volvos. 
Dunno about where it has the torque maximun, but could be worth some
investigations...

Just a thought.
Franz
---------------------------------------------------------------
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 97 11:09:00 est
From: "Brian Hanson/EW/BNL" <Brian_Hanson/EW/BNL_at_BLNOTESMAIL@blwn0009.bausch.com>
Subject: Re: 1997 d90sw cd player

  I'm not 100% sure, but I think that LR uses Pioneer CD Changers so you
  could always look for one of those.  Would be smaller and alot cheaper
  than from a LR dealer.

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  Land-Rover-Owner @ playground.sun.com at INTERNET
  02/06/97 10:52 PM
  

  To:   Land-Rover-Owner @ playground.sun.com at Internet@CCMAIL
  cc:    (bcc: Brian Hanson/EW/BNL)
  Subject:  1997 d90sw cd player

has anyone gotten the 6-disc cd changer for the 1997 d90sw?
a dealer told me that the console had been redesigned and
as such the existing changer wouldn't work.

but in light of other fallacies he's since told me, i'm skeptical.

-eric

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From: lroshop@idirect.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:10:02 +0000
Subject: Re: Coast Guard

> From:          JmieWilson@aol.com
> Date:          Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:11:09 -0500 (EST)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> X-To:          Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
> Subject:       Re: Coast Guard

> In a message dated 07/02/97  10:09:52, sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com
> wrote:
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
> Regards
> Jamie
The last time the Coast Guard did this the vehicle was rebuilt.  Lets 
see someone try with a Nissan!  Having done it twice now what does 
that tell us about the lighting.  Working on a cliff top needs lots 
of high lights.  The first vehicle didn't have them, did the Nissan? 
LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:14:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Major upcoming events - anybody have some to ad?

	Since some people are not aware of some dates, we might as well
	have a regular posting for major events (I,ll fix the web page for
	all the smaller events that are more local in nature)  Are there any
	fixed dates for some of the other big events, events not listed?

	June 20-22 	Birthday Party, Silver Lake Ontario (OVLR)

	June 28-29	Downeast Rally, Camden Maine

	August		National Rally, Colorado, (Solihull Society)

	Labour Day	All British Field Meet, Portland, Oregon

?	mid September	British Invasion, Stowe Vermont

?	end September	Mid-Atlantic Rally, Penlan Farm, Virginia (ROAV)

	October 10-12	Fall Heritage, western Massachussets (BSROA)	

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 08:51:49 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: PTO Function/Operation?

Granville Pool wrote:
> snip
> Right.  I was a little dense but realized my confusion eventually!  You're
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> I was telling a fellow at work about this and he was intrigued.  But then he
> said:  He could just get an automatic transmission!  Well, he's right.  

No he's wrong :)

> He pointed out another shortcoming, too:  You'd not have forward and
> reverse, only one direction.  Right?  Or can you get a reversible hydraulic
> motor?  

Valves. :)

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:04:47 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Dates??

Dear all,
        Does anyone know the dates for the British Invasion, in Stowe
Vermont for 1997??? Or a number for the organizer?
        I'm trying to plan around a wedding. Thanks in advance.

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Restoration, Custom work, and More
               Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:05:36 -0800 (PST)
From: sosn7667@uwwvax.uww.edu (Christopher R. Sosnay)
Subject: Neep Help?

Hello,
        I was wanting to know how I can stop messages for the weekend and
then resume on Monday.  I do not need to do it right now, but I would like
to know the proceeder.
Thanks again,

Christopher Sosnay
Whitewater, WI

  
"The more one does and sees and feels, the more one is able to do..."
Amelia Earhart

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From: ppinheiro@ip.pt
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:39:40 +0000
Subject: Clutch Hydraulics

  Hi!  This is a Range Rover question, but I have posted it on the 
rro list, and nobody replied... :-(  Besides, MY vehicle is a Series 
IIA (the RR is my dad's), so I have a higher chance of being forgiven 
for the sin that this message is (on this list!) :-)

  Here it goes:

  Our '90 Range Rover is losing clutch fluid.  If I top the 
reservoir, the clutch works well again.
  Today, I decided to take a look underneath.  When the clutch fluid
flexible hose gets to the slave cylinder, instead of going straight in
to it, it's connected to a short cylinder, about 3/4 of inch tall,
about 2 inches in diameter, which is on a small rectangular plate,
secured to the end of the slave cylinder.
  That cylinder in turn is connected to the slave cylinder with a
normal hydraulic pipe.  The hose and pipe are connected to the back of
the plate that is holding the small cylinder, which seems to be a
filter, or something of the sort, because it's not connected to
anywhere else.
  Anyway, the fluid is being lost through the small cylinder, because
it was wet with clutch fluid.

  Does anyone know if this part is malfunctioning or if it's just
acting like this due to the failure of either the master or slave
cylinders?

  Thanks for the help!                 Pedro Pinheiro

'67 LR SIIA 88" Diesel 'Oscar' 24430781D
'90 RR with the VM Turb(ulent) Diesel 
AFS Exchange Student - Missouri, US, during 1993-94

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 13:17:08 -0500
From: Lee Levitt <wheelman@shore.net>
Subject: Re: Major upcoming events - anybody have some to ad?

At 11:14 AM 2/7/97 -0500, Dixon Kenner wrote:
>	Since some people are not aware of some dates, we might as well
>	have a regular posting for major events (I,ll fix the web page for
>	all the smaller events that are more local in nature)  Are there any
>	fixed dates for some of the other big events, events not listed?

Don't remember the exact date, but at the Museum of Transportation in
Boston every year there's a lawn event for British cars. Had planned to
restore an English Volvo (yes, it's true...said "Made in England" right on
the ID plate!) and show up to see if they'd let me exhibit, but never did
the restoration.

So this year, I'll be showing up in my Rover!

Jim P. or someone else probably has the exact date...

Lee
Lee Levitt, mailto:wheelman@shore.net
Director, Business Development, Software.com - http://www.Software.com
webmaster, NeedhamOnline - http://www.NeedhamOnline.com
and Bicycle Classics, Inc. - http://www.BicycleClassics.com
1990 Audi 200T, 75K
1995 Range Rover County LWB, 45K, member Bay State Rovers
1987 Wicked Fat Chance, 1981 Condor

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 12:13:51 -0500
From: "Bren & Lynne' Workman" <bworkman@alaska.net>
Subject: Hello

Hello from Alaska.  I'm a lieutenant in the Army stationed at Ft
Wainwright, Alaska. (Fairbanks) I acquired my Rover 6 months ago by
trading in my To***a LandCruiser.  No regrets, absolutely no regrets.  I
have about a million tech questions that I plan to bore you all with in
the future, I hope you don't mind.  First question: Does anybody know
where I can get used 88" full legnth canvases or hoop sets?  Have you
ever heard of someone dying a blue canvas to black?  Could it be done? 
Thanks.
  '72 Ser III 88"  "Tilly"  (u "Tilly" tarian)

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 97 16:00:03 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Sunday Drive (Off the Road)

Anybody up for a spot of offroading in the Bowie area (not the LRNA site so 
keep your hats on) this Sunday??
If so, give me a call at 703 528 8727
thanks
DaveBobeck

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:55:24 -0500
From: bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman Wing)
Subject: Electric fan

I'm in the process of fitting an electric fan to my IIA, and I was
wondering if anyine has had experience with "through the core" mounts on
these. I don't really like the idea of poking holes in my radiator core,
especially on an off-road vehicle that sees a lot of hard terrain. I'll
probably make up some body mounts, but I may not get around to it for
several weeks, and in the meantime I might use the core mounts. Is this a
bad idea? I'd really like to get the fan on for a 700 mile trip this
weekend so I can look for a gas mileage increase, but if it means the
destruction of my radiator, I can be patient. Thanks for any advice,

Braman

'66 IIA 88"

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From: "S. Vels" <S.Vels>
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:30:29 +0000
Subject: Re: Serie I parts

> From:          jtrisott@reuna.cl (JLTrisotti)
> Subject:       Serie I parts

> I am restoring my 80" 1953 , now I am working in the electrical parts as
> Dynamo and Starter . In the case of the dynamo I prefer not change by a non
> original Delco alternator replacement . My idea is to work original as like
> as possible .

> First : Am I in a right way ? or It s not very important to restore that ,
> and Where can I find part or a replacement kit ?.
 
> In the case of the starter , it s in very bad condition , What number or
> Lucas Model is? Are there any compatible starter ? Do you have any dealer
> for it ( with email address )

I don't know how hard it is to get the above mentioned parts original 
these days, but there is an option i think. 1953 would be a two litre 
right? British Motor Heritage (Rover group nostalgia dept.) has an ad 
in the 12/96 Classic Cars stating that you can get re-mfg starter motors, 
dynamos and alternators for LR 2.0, 2.25, 2.6, V8 and RR. They claim that 
"Heritage Gold units are built to the highest possible standard. (etc 
etc). "
Ring 01993 707200 UK for details.

rgds
sv/aurens

Not afiliated and all that.

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 16:35:27 -0600
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>
Subject: Painting and Rover Colors

I know that this topic has probably been covered , ad nauseum, in the past,
but we don't have the luxury yet of a search engine for the previous
mailings archive, so I've got to go ahead and ask.

I am looking to paint my '65 IIA (now a metallic grey color) in the next
year or so and had a couple of questions.  I have found a good galvanizing
place that will strip the grey paint off my galvanized body parts and
re-galv. for a good price.

I would like to paint the rover ("Buford" as named not-so-lovingly by my
wife) the poppy red color but want to try to be somewhat historically
correct in my restoration.  Did Land Rover offer the SIIA's in this color in
'65?  For that matter, what colors were offered in those years?

I know this next question is likely to cause a stir.  I've seen some
aritcles about hand painting rovers.  Has anyone actually tried this and had
the outcome be any good?  I don't necessarily need a show-room finish as
this rover will be out in the woods alot, but don't want a really crappy
looking finish either.  If it actually works with good results, this would
be very convenient as I could do it in the garage at my home and it would
make it easier to get to all the nooks in the interior also.

As usual, thanks for all the help!!  This list is a real life-saver for me
as I'm pretty isolated from other roverites, here in Arkansas.

Thanks-
Keith

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Date: 7 Feb 1997 17:27:38 -0400
From: "LT J Jackson" <lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: Re- Coast Guard

--A coastguard was airlifted to hospital today after his Land-Rover patrol
vehicle plunged more than 100ft over a cliff. --

I bet it didn't fall faster than 50 mph.

Sounds like I'm in the wrong Coast Guard - the Brits get to drive around in
gov't Land Rover's (LR fun PLUS you don't care if anything breaks).  The last
Coast Guard "patrol vehicle" I drove was a K-car with stained seats and a
power steering pump that wailed like my SIII's overdrive.  Tres chic. 

Jeff Jackson
Lieutenant
The Wrong Coast Guard
Waterford, CT

 

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 17:12:09 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Electric fan

Braman Wing wrote:
> I'm in the process of fitting an electric fan to my IIA, and I was
> wondering if anyine has had experience with "through the core" mounts on
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> destruction of my radiator, I can be patient. Thanks for any advice,
> Braman
> '66 IIA 88"

I have mounted a fan through the core using nylon cable ties. It works 
fine.  I wouldn't leave it too long if you are on rough roads because the 
little bit of movement wears the fins down, but for a few weeks it worked 
just fine.  In fact one or two after market units use this method of 
mounting the new ones.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 19:14:53 -0800
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Painting and Rover Colors (Red)

Keith inquires:
> I would like to paint the rover ("Buford" as named not-so-lovingly by my
> wife) the poppy red color but want to try to be somewhat historically
> correct in my restoration.  Did Land Rover offer the SIIA's in this color in
> '65?  For that matter, what colors were offered in those years?

Poppy red was offered in the 60's, from '60 or earlier, through at least
'68 for the North American market.
Body colors and associated wheel colors offered in the mid-'60 were:
Bronze Green (Bronze Green) Home: Standard & Export: Standard
Sand (Limestone) Home: Optional & Export: Standard
Light Green (Limestone) Home: Standard & Export: Standard
Marine Blue (Limestone) Home: Standard & Export: Standard
Limestone (Limestone) Home: Standard & Export: Standard
Mid Grey (Limestone) Home: Standard & Export: Standard
Dark Grey (Limestone) Home: Optional & Export: Optional
Red (Red) Home: Optional & Export: Optional
Mist Grey (Primer) Home: Standard & Export: Standard

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:27:40 +1100
From: Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za>
Subject:  Re: Chevy six banger conversion...

>From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
>I had the pleasure of driving one of these conversions. it went well, but
>the low-end torque curve didn't feel right to me.

My 109 has a Holden (GM Australia) 202 cid 6 in it, and it performs like a
dream.  The motor used to get _very_ hot in summer (shade temp around 40C),
but since I fitted a 24-row oil cooler seems to be OK.  It still has the
stock radiator and breakfast, so there are no signs of the conversion from
the outside.  It also has one of Marks' 5sp Nissan truck gearbox
conversions, which eliminates the need for an overdrive.

Overall, less really low-down lugging power than my old 2.25 diesel, but
it'll pull from 20km/hr in 4th, and will actually exceed 100km/hr uphill.
Now to fix the damn steering, so that I feel safe at that speed :-).  Above
an idle it has as much torque as the diesel had.

Using the principle of conservation of problems, I have determined that the
oil filter is a Double-Plus Good Thing [TM].  Within minutes of fitting it
(literally), the clutch master cylinder died (rebuilt about 6 months
before), and the carburettor started leaking petrol.  I replaced the master
cylinder (a new one cost $5 more than a seal kit), and fitted a new needle
and seat, plus adjusted float level.  A week later the carb died totally,
requiring a rebuild including rebused throttle spindle, new jets, new
float, a number of helicoil inserts, various bits of internal "stuff".

The truck will now run happily at 100km/hr without boiling, but the hottest
temp that I've had it out in is about 36C, so I'm not sure what it'll do on
my next outback trip (shade temp up into the mid 40's on my last one:
Broken Hill environs in mid-summer).

This is all a bit rambling, but I'm happier with the truck this way than I
would be with a "restore to original condition" one.  If I had the time and
money, I'd drop in a biggish diesel, but I wouldn't convert back to a
genuine 4 or 6 if someone paid e.  OTOH, if anyone wants to rebuild a 109
6cyl to original shape, I'm quite happy to swap it for a 110 Tdi ..

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:42:29 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Safari Gard

Just took delivery of a Safari Gard bumper/brush guard and skid plate.  
Folks, I'm here to tell ya' (and to borrow from a popular ad), "it don't get 
any better than this."  

The construction and attention to detail is excellent, right down to the 
pre-cut hole for the oil line retainer bracket on the front crossmember.  
The unit develops its strength from the design, not mass.  Anybody can slap 
on a piece of 3/8" plate, but the trick is to do it with style and function. 
 Greg has accomplished this in spades.  The welds, smooth mandrel bends and 
the overall design just say 'craftsmanship', something so rare today.

Someone on the list mentioned that he thought the wings had to be trimmed to 
fit the unit, which is *not* the case.  The bottom of the wings and the 
grill have this little "skirt" or return (kinda like a rabbet in 
woodworking) and the bumper has been built to match these trim pieces 
*perfectly*.  It looks like a factory fitment.  The front grill will have to 
be trimmed to fit the winch, though.

Installation time was brief.  In fact, it took far longer to deal with all 
the OEM fiddly bits (headlight washer jets, fog lights in that dumb air dam, 
and the side marker lights in the bumper end caps) than it did to fit the 
new bumper.  Curiously, the original bumper was fitted with 5/16" bolts 
despite having 1/2" holes.  I bought some new grade 8's in 1/2" - probably 
overkill.

If you order one, add the clever, rotating "D" tow rings.  Another nice 
feature are tabs on the upper outer corners so that cables can the run up to 
the roof rack to fend off branches.

In short, you won't go wrong ordering one of these assemblies.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:38:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Hello

In regds to the hoop set..used ones can be had..just be patient and keep
your ears open.  Dying a blue canvas black.....Hmmm  The blue is
obnoxious..very bright.  You would have to get some nasty dye...lots of
nasty dye.
Good Luck

Russ Wilson
67 RHD 88
"The Pig"

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh Pa's oldest Land Rover Club....(only Rover club)

On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Bren & Lynne' Workman wrote:

> Hello from Alaska.  I'm a lieutenant in the Army stationed at Ft
> Wainwright, Alaska. (Fairbanks) I acquired my Rover 6 months ago by
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
> Thanks.
>   '72 Ser III 88"  "Tilly"  (u "Tilly" tarian)

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:44:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Painting and Rover Colors

If you are going to paint it yourself just go ahead and use
rattle-cans....27 cans of "Berry Red" an "American Accents" color did
mine just dandy.looks very very close to Poppy Red....THe American
accents stuff is made by rust-oleum but is
a touch cheaper...don't however use Rust-Oleum "Regal Red" the red is too
orangy.  Get shakin' and paintin'

Russ Wilson
67 RHD 88
"The Pig"

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh Pa's oldest Land Rover Club....(only Rover club)

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:39:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Major upcoming events - anybody have some to ad?

I showed up at the Boston MOT event last year in my 109 - I was about as
welcome as
a defective vacuum cleaner in a clean room.

They parked me next to a Jag (they class by year), and he immediately went
for the Diaper and the Meguiars....

                         aj"Not this year....."r

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:25:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Re- Coast Guard

In a message dated 07/02/97  22:40:15, it was written:

<< Sounds like I'm in the wrong Coast Guard - the Brits get to drive around
in
 gov't Land Rover's (LR fun PLUS you don't care if anything breaks).  The
last
  >>

Although I accept any comments regarding the acuracy of the news report (I
only quoted),  the coastguard here do use Land Rovers.  So do the Electric
company, the phone company, the police in rural areas etc. etc..  Anyone who
works away from the tarmac and wants the right tool for the job.......

Last winter (95-96) in Galloway (South West Scotland) the weather was really
bad and there were a lot of power outages.  The local police only had 4 Land
Rovers, and the snow was drifting with lots of people stranded etc., and the
police couldn't cope so they pleaded for help and yes I felt so sorry for
them I let them borrowed the Explorer, (kept the 88").  Anyway, cut the ego,
and get back to what I'm saying.  The electricity board gave the police
another 4 Land Rovers by way of compensation to the people of Galloway for
the inconvenience caused by the 4 day power cut.  

Ramble no. 2 .....

When I lived in Dalry in the wilds of Galloway, the local policeman (local in
the extreme, the only police station I've ever heard of where the phone is
ex-directory) was moaning when his new Land Rover turned up because it was a
jam sandwich (white with a red reflective waistband) whereas his old one was
a dull air force grey/blue.  The problem being if your trundling through the
wilds after poachers you don't want to be driving a beacon.

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 02:43:01 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Gearbox-gynaecology HELP!

Hi all, here's hoping someone knows the answer to this...

Just reinstalled my gearbox into my SIII 109" this evening, had to lift
it in and mount it on my own, by hand (without a crane!) - all went
well, mated with the clutch plate first time.

Now it's all bolted in place, and I came to fix the clutch slave
cylinder onto the box again - put fingers into the box recess to locate
the clutch driver shaft, and it was jammed behind the lip of the
casting. I wiggled a screwdriver carefully to try and dislodge it, and
suddenly - POP! the shaft shot out with a bang - sprung by the force of
the clutch plate.

When I found the shaft it was OK, same length, not bent, but complete
with a 'L' shaped plastic clip which holts it onto the lever-arm in the
box.

The question is...

Is it possible to mount the shaft onto the lever in-situ (Can't face
removing the box on my own again!) - any tips for gearbox-gynaecology?

OR - if I can locate the ball and pin end of the shaft successfully into
the lever, and mount the slave cylinder over the shaft - can I just
"forget" the plastic clip - won't the force of the clutch hold this
shaft in place when the slave cylinder is mounted?

Or do I really have to remove that box again?

How far into the slave cylinder does the shaft go?

help?

-- 
Adrian Redmond

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From: "Mark Talbot" <rangerover@top.monad.net>
Subject: Winter Romp Sunday.... Reminder
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:54:45 -0500

For those of you don't know, there is a group going out into the woods on
Sunday for about 4 hours. E-mail if interested. 

Those coming, I will have coffee and bagels waiting !! 

Mark

1988 RANGE ROVER - 

Southdown Underbody Amour, Warn M8000 Winch, Ironman Suspension Bushings,
1" Inch lift. HD/Springs. Hellas, K&N Filter

1991 RANGE ROVER -

 "The Wife's"

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Subject: Bowtie 6 banger
From: robot1@juno.com (Mark E Hardig)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 23:00:57 EST

I am personally amazed at the chevy 6 conversion flame wars.
Bill, the strongest opponent, states the best reason for such conversion:

Parts are available at Autozone.

I would have to theorize that since the Chevy 250 six is as common as
dirt on a trailer trash porch monkey (No offence to my friends in double
wides), that more reliable miles have been endured by just Chevy sixes in
North America than all the miles by all the Land Rovers ever made. This
is NOT a criticism, just a sheer fact of numbers; certainly by percentage
more LR's are still around than chevy's ever will be.

OBTW, you can purchase excellent name brand Spark plugs, spark plug
wires, distributor caps, rotors, thermostats, alternators, starters, oil,
air, fuel filters, pcv valves, carburettor rebuild kits, AND chrome
plated valve covers for a 250 six at my  local K-mart. The saving place.
Peace, Bill. Be glad for anyone doing anything they can afford to keep
ANY LR alive.

Mark 

Practicing the modern North American art of Gut-Ren-Ching.

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:05:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Chevy Six

On Thu, 06 Feb 1997, Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> wrote about Chevy
Six conversion: "The secret, I believe, is in the carburation."

Paul:

There is a Model B Rochester from an old Chevy six on my 2.25l Rover.
Would it be fair turnabout to put a Zenith or a Solex on your 4.1 Chevy?
But would it run on witblits?

Regards,

Paul Donohue
1965 Dormobile

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:39:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Chevy six banger conversion...

I just want everyone to know that when I suggested the three litre mill, it
was because I knew where there *was* one, and that it would go right in. I
never intended to dis the chevy six, either. It was my dads favorite engine,
both his last two vehicles, a 75 Nova and a 71 pickup, had 250s, three on the
tree and no radio, or air or power anything. My dad lived simply.
Besides, since the vehicle needing help is RHS, the Rover motor seems a
natural!
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!! 

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:51:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: VW-diesel

I have more experience with the VW diesel than I want. The 1.6 would be
underpowering for a SWB, much less a 109. The five cyl Audi version would
give OK power, as would the six cyl version, (wasn't that offered in the
Pinzgauer?) but the timing belt has only a sheet metal cover and therefore no
protection from the elements; not good for off-highway use. I would use a
four cyl Peugeot diesel, but that's just my preference, as I know where those
skeletons are buried, too.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!! 

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:54:54 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: Painting and Rover Colors

>I know that this topic has probably been covered , ad nauseum, in the past,
>but we don't have the luxury yet of a search engine for the previous
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 29 lines)]
>as I'm pretty isolated from other roverites, here in Arkansas.
>Thanks-
>Keith

Keith,
        The colors for that year (and all series' years, for that matter,
unless you go back to series one) would be: Poppy Red, Marine Blue, Pastel
Green, Bronze Green, Sand, and Limestone.

Steve Paustian
Flatland Rover Society
D90 SW

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 22:26:43 -0800
From: paarch@ix.netcom.com (Paul Archibald)
Subject: Re: That's it ! the aprons are off.

That is why my loving wife got me a Coleman dual fuel stove for my
birthday. When it runs out of white gas, I can just burn petrol. ;-)
        Regarding cooking on the manifold, I am working on a little oven to
attach to the manifold to try to bake bread, or at least biscuits. It will
work on the old side valver engines, but I actually am thinking of
designing one for the 2.25 lump. Regarding manifold cooking, I think that
the next thing that I am going to try is to build a pressure-cooker
mount(seriously) That way the food is sealed away from fumes and dirt. If
my theory works, This is the best way to get the food cooked the
fastest/tenderest. I'll be trying this out soon, and give a report if
anyone is interested. Again, with the carb on top of the exhaust man., I
don't know yet how this would work for you modern guys with 2.25 litre
engines and other plushness like doorpanels, locks, radios, and heaters.
Maybe there is a benifit for the 2.0 litre engine after all(besides the
amazing power;-)
Paul

>on a campsite near Skipton when the stove did that anoying thing of
>running out of gas. Having
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)]
>driving as a worthwhile experiment.
>Frosty

Paul Archibald
Paarch@ix.netcom.com
(510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336
'58 88" RHD 2-litre ....slowly, but surely
"87 Range-Rover-160,000 miles-"going strong" (Squeak)
Fly yellow '92 Ducati 750SS

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From: fhyap@ix.netcom.com
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 23:09:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Suppressor

Would someone explain the purpose of the screw-in suppressor over the 
spark plugs?  Is it to suppress radio signals?  It seems to add a 
significant amount of resistance to the path to the plugs.  Is that 
good?

Thanks for your response.

Frank

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:21:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Chevy Six in Land Rover

On Thursday, 960206, Bill "Frankenstein" McDonald wrote:
"What about using the straight 6 out if my 1983 Cherokee?"

Bill-san:

Several years ago in the People's Republic of Boulder (PRB) Colorado, there
was a 109 SW which had been fitted with a 258 CID Jeep six.  The owner,
fearful of drivetrain damage, had used the engine, transmission and transfer
case from a recent CJ.  Claimed it ran well and had plenty of power on the
highway and especially in the mountains.  The 6.5:1 first gear with a 2.46
transfer case and a 4.7 Rover diff gave him bulldozer power.  Parts are easy
to find and local mechanics know how to work on these engines.  The only
problem with his conversion was the complete lack of a handbrake.

Big sixes have a lot to offer in a utility truck.  This is why so many
manufacturers have used them.  Look at the Toyota Land Cruiser, the Nissan
Patrol and the stock engines on all the old American light and medium weight
trucks.  My personal favorite is the Ford 300" six in my old beater pickup.

European and British cars and trucks have those little dinkey engines due to
the tax and license structures in their countries of origin.  This has not
been a factor here.

Best Regards,
Paul Donohue
1965 LR Dormobile "Lurch"
1976 Ford F100 "Bertha"

P.S.  You could choose true elegance and install one of those lovely, big,
long stroke, twin cam XK sixes.  These come with all of the appropriate
Lucas bits to keep alive the mystery of the English car.

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 10:36:16 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: Electric fan

Braman Wing wrote:
> I'm in the process of fitting an electric fan to my IIA, and I was
> wondering if anyine has had experience with "through the core" mounts on
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> destruction of my radiator, I can be patient. Thanks for any advice,
> Braman
> '66 IIA 88"

Very bad idea. If you force a piece of wire or whatever through the
core, thereby squashing some of the veins closed you are blocking the
waterflow channels of the radiator, making it less efficient. When you
later remove the through-the-core mounting the veins will stay blocked,
thereby ruining a good core. Of course the increase in pressure caused
by blocking some of the veins might cause the core to burst a seam or
two in any case.

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://www.adventures.co.za

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 10:50:05 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: Chevy Six

DONOHUEPE@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Feb 1997, Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> wrote about Chevy
> Six conversion: "The secret, I believe, is in the carburation."
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> Paul Donohue
> 1965 Dormobile

I dunno about "run", but I'm sure it would lurch more than usual.

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://www.adventures.co.za

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:18:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Suppressor

In a message dated 08/02/97  07:11:12, you write:

<< Would someone explain the purpose of the screw-in suppressor over the 
 spark plugs?  Is it to suppress radio signals?  It seems to add a 
 significant amount of resistance to the path to the plugs.  Is that 
 good?
  >>

It stops your neighbours comming out and trashing your beloved truck because
there television stops working whenever your truck starts.  As for electrical
efficiency there bad so are standard leads.  The best leads are copper, still
used in rally cars if you need to source them.  But if you go this route
people will know about it and they won't like it and you will get the police
interest (although they probably won't be able to call for support as their
radio won't work).

Regards

Jamie

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: What do I buy?
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 97 21:05:00 EST

I have a dilemma!

My wife says I can buy another 4WD  (that's a dilemma in itself) to use for 
real off-road work.  You know what I mean - one where it doesn't matter if 
it gets a few dents etc., one where one can screw a few jerry can holders on 
without worrying about destroying the classic lines of the LR or RR.

The trouble is what do I buy?

I have a thing about owning a Series (in my price range), a County 110 (a 
bit outside the price range) or a Defender  (way out of my range).  There is 
something about the classic lines of the Landie that attracts me. (Obviously 
I'm in need of help).

But my common sense says that I should buy an old 2-door Rangie.  It has all 
one needs i.e., power steering, air-conditioning, a station wagon body, coil 
sprung long travel suspension.  It can get to the off-road site in comfort.

Help me rationalise.  Convince me I'm nuts.

Is there a trick cyclist * for people thinking of joining the ranks of LR 
owners?

* Trick cyclist = psychiatrist

 Regards,

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
'87 Range Rover 4.8L auto (pondering another)
'67 Hillman Gazelle
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: PTO Function/Operation?
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 97 21:05:00 EST

Granville Pool wrote:
> snip

> He pointed out another shortcoming, too:  You'd not have forward and
> reverse, only one direction.  Right?  Or can you get a reversible
hydraulic  motor?

I don't see why not.  When I used to work on a satellite tracking station 
built by Collins Radio (lemme see - I think, and this is stretching it, of 
Cedar Creek, jeez, what state of the USA) back in the late Sixties,
the antenna was driven by hydraulic motors.  It never ceased to amaze me 
that we could drive this 90 foot diameter antenna with two small hydraulic 
motors (One motor drove in one direction and the other drove the opposite 
direction to take up the slop in the gears.)

Where was I?  Oh, yes, the antenna could be driven in either direction by 
merely changing the direction of the oil flow with valves.

 Regards,

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
'87 Range Rover 4.8L auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Major upcoming events - anybody have some to ad?
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 97 21:05:00 EST

 ----------
From: Lee Levitt
>Had planned to
>restore an English Volvo (yes, it's true...said "Made in England" right on
>the ID plate!) and show up to see if they'd let me exhibit, but never did

A P1800?? As driven by Simon Templar aka The Saint in the TV series
where the ST was played by Roger Moore?

Regards,

Ron Beckett

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 17:07:12 +0700
From: Tony Yates <a.yates@bom.gov.au>
Subject: Re: What do I buy?

Ron, 

How did you achieve this????? Let us all in on the secret.
I have been trying that one for years.

>My wife says I can buy another 4WD  (that's a dilemma in itself) to use for 
>real off-road work.  You know what I mean - one where it doesn't matter if 

>But my common sense says that I should buy an old 2-door Rangie.  It has all 
>one needs i.e., power steering, air-conditioning, a station wagon body, coil 
>sprung long travel suspension.  It can get to the off-road site in comfort.

How about a coil sprung hybrid?  Buy a cheap Rangie with good mechanicals and
a shot body, and a SIIA/III with a good body, and combine the two!
(Something I have been itching to do for ages).

Cheers.  Tony.

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*****

Tony Yates                              email: a.yates@bom.gov.au
Senior Forecaster                       Ph:    (672) 10632
Davis Meteorological Office             Fax:   (672) 10658
Australian Antarctic Territory

"On the fringe of an unspanned continent along whose gelid coast our friends had
made their home, we knew not where, we dwelt where the chill breath of a
vast polar
wilderness, quickening to the rushing might of eternal blizzards, surged to the
northern seas."
-  Sir Douglas Mawson (1915)

*Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast* - Ace Rimmer

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