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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:00:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: UK Rebuilt Gearbox/Trans Suppliers? (fwd)

In a message dated 15/01/97  01:09:55, you write:

 service station replaced it.  The next time I used the new one, the same
  thing happened.  Unfortunately, they wouldn't refund my money - only ]
 give me yet another replacement.  I've since bought a flat tow strap
 t >>

You should have kept busting their ropes until they gave you your money back.
 After about fifteen ropes returned as "not fit for the purpose for which
they were sold" they might want to pay you to go away.

Regards

the very awkward Jamie

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:55:33 -500
Subject: General Purpose Vehicle

This is in response to a question from a person whose name I cannot 
recall.

I do not know when LRs became embraced by military units.  I have
never seen one at this US facility.  There are lots of Hummers about 
and they are well liked by their drivers.  In fairness, I should ask 
of their impressions when driving with the softtop at subzero temps.  
The other general purpose vehicle is a modified GM diesel powered 
Blazer.  These are quite common and have all manner of top fitted.
Mark         

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: More sites of interest
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 23:28:00 EST

http://www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/oil-additives.txt

http://www.tradica.com/rover

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From: Administrator_at_DTT.NZ.WELLINGTON@ccmailg2.deloitte.co.nz

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Guages
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 23:28:00 EST

> Going to route a new
>one (pull the parcel sub-tray on a Series III - what a fun job!) but does
>the feed have to be "stabilized" or will any hot lead work?  Cheers

Probably needs to be fed from the voltage stabiliser.  This has been
standard on British derived cars with Smiths instruments for over 25 years

Ron Beckett

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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Subject: Subject: Re: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:45:00 -0500

     > It rund great, and starts cold with no problem. within a few
minutes

     >of turning it off, it will start right up. But if it sits for say
     >about 15 minutes, then it will not start again until it has cooled
     >down completly,

When you say it won't start. Is it the starter won't turn or the engine
won't fire? If the former the probable cause is a missing heat shield
and overheated starter motor which is too close to hot exhaust pipes. 

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:04:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Guages

Sandy,

I've recently removed the SIII dashpanel from one of my rovers and it appears
(though I'll check tonight for you) that there is indeed a voltage stabilizer
on the upper part of the instrument cluster box (behind the panel). When I
get home, I'll check this and let you know

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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From: "Zijp, Ferenc-Jan van" <fjvzijp@telecom.ordina.nl>
Subject: follow up on multifuels: wood engine?
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 14:02:00 CET

Hi all,

Regarding my multifuel-rover question, I've heard about the fry VW, but I   
had more exotic fuels in mind. In the second world war for instance, in   
the Netherlands a lot of cars were converted to run on a kind of gas that   
was extracted from _wood_ in a sort of big boiler mounted on the vehicle   
(don't know the details).

I mean, to me the simple, robust, go-anywhere (series) Land-rover   
symbolizes a kind of freedom. But I fear this petrol/diesel-powered   
freedom can get quite costly in future.

Regarding electric power, I don't think it is a realistic option (yet). A   
L-R weighs far too much for the inefficient batteries that are (now)   
available.

Why not install a small gas-turbine in a L-R? I understand they run on   
about everything and they're *far* simpler then a piston-engine. You'd   
have to deal with complex hydraulic system, but hey, that's nothing new   
to you Roverites, now is it?

Just some thoughts....

Greets,

Ferenc

#     fjvzijp@telecom.ordina.nl
#          ferencj@xs4all.nl
#
#  still roverless, but an avid dreamer
#
#   __________ <--- empty driveway (not even oil-stained)
#
#  An opinion is hard to get by, but when I have one,
#  I seriously doubt it is shared by my employer.  

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From: "Delve, Trefor" <delve1t@nectech.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Guages
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 13:21:00 GMT

Sandy, Nate,

I've missed most of this thread so I'm not really sure what the problem   
is, but yes there is a voltage stabiliser fixed to the top of the   
speedometer.  If it's not earthed properly the fuel and temperature   
reading are wrong.

Trefor
tdelve@nectech.co.uk

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From:  LRO-Owner[SMTP:LRO-Owner@playground.sun.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, January 15, 1997 08:04
Subject:  Re: Guages

Sandy,

I've recently removed the SIII dashpanel from one of my rovers and it   
appears
(though I'll check tonight for you) that there is indeed a voltage   
stabilizer
on the upper part of the instrument cluster box (behind the panel). When   
I
get home, I'll check this and let you know

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:34:57 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels:Turbines

Ferenc said:

Why not install a small gas-turbine in a L-R? I understand they run on
>about everything and they're *far* simpler then a piston-engine. You'd
>have to deal with complex hydraulic system, but hey, that's nothing new
>to you Roverites, now is it?

A gas turbine engine was installed in a Land Rover as an experimant in the
early 1960s when Rover was pursuing their turbine car projects. According
to some folks who were there, including Spen King - head of the project -
it was a dog.Same problems as the car turbines, residual torque, poor fuel
economy, turbine lag,etc. but they were a more serious problem for an
off-roader. They scrapped it posthaste.

        Jim Allen

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:49:20 +0000 (GMT)
From: Stuart Moore <eeymsmo@helpdesk.ntu.ac.uk>
Subject: Perkins 4203 Diesel conversion

Hi,
	It's got to that time when the engine in my 75 SIII is costing too
much to recon, so a new engine looms. I've been offered a Perkins 4203
diesel with mounting kit and been told "It'll just drop in and need
bolting". Anybody know wether or not this is true. The price is right so I
don't mind minor hassles, but I'd like to be able to do it over a weekend
or something.
	Also, anyone got any idea of the economy of this engine. I'm
assuming it'll be slightly more thirsty than the lump it's replacing, but
by how much? And how big an increase of power can I expect?
	Thanks in advance for any help or advice

	Bye!!!!!!!!!                                  
	Stuart
	  		Finger for various keys and codes     

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:56:59 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[4]: UK Rebuilt Gearbox/Trans Suppliers? (fwd)

>In an emergency, I recently bought a tow rope from a service station.
>...snip..... This rope was, in construction, like the old Chines finger puzzle 

Yeah, I know the type. Seen quite a few of em, in fact. All of em broken 
and left laying in the mud...

>>> I've since bought a flat tow strap that looks like a snatch strap 
>but doesn't  stretch.  It has sewn eyes just like a snatch strap.  
>Price A$30, length was 5 metres.

I carry two of these, one is 10,000lb breaking strength @15ft, the other is 
20Klb @30ft. Both have been used repeatedly for towing, recovery and the 
smaller one even lifted my 2.25...I don't really use that one for much 
other than as a keeper strap... its a little frayed.

Cheers
DaveB.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:05:21 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels:Turbines

A gas turbine engine was installed in a Land Rover as an experimant in the
>early 1960s when Rover was pursuing their turbine car projects.
. They scrapped it posthaste.
>        Jim Allen

Hey-ho....Looks like its back to steam then chaps....

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 9:00:11 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels: wood engine?

I know!
Rip out the engine and transmission, cut a big hole in the bulkhead, 
remove the tailgate/barndoor and plop a Pratt & Whitney turbofan in 
there. Spool up that bad boy on some JP4 and drop the hammer. Not only 
will you be able to go off-road, you'll be able to go off-planet! NB: be 
sure you reline your brakes. Not that you'll be able to stop... just that 
the sparks from the melting drums will add a nice light effect as you 
streak across the sky.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 09:08:43 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Loctite

ROn Beckett misspells...

>Dave Brobeck replied:

That's BOBECK :-). Get it right, pal :-)

>In Australia we call them nyloc nuts.

Yep. That's what we call em here...I was talking about a BOLT with an oval 
nylon inset in one side. For blind holes where you cant through-bolt... 
pretty fancy stuff, actually.

Cheers
Dave

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels:Turbines
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 14:37:42 GMT

> Ferenc said:
> Why not install a small gas-turbine in a L-R? I understand they run on
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> it was a dog.Same problems as the car turbines, residual torque, poor fuel
> economy, turbine lag,etc. but they were a more serious problem for an
> off-roader. They scrapped it posthaste.

There's one for sale in Jan LROi and Feb LRW - "ideal for experimental
Land Rover" or something like that. Yes, right.
They're asking a few grand I think!!

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: "Gene Sparks" <galleryg@techline.com>
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:49:04 -0800

unsubscribe
Gene Sparks
USS Disco
Rhino Gear
http://www.techline.com/~galleryg/rhino.htm

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:58:00 +0100
From: "Geoffrey Said" <Geoffrey.Said@MAGNET.MT>
Subject: RE:Perkins 4203 Diesel conversion

Some might say I am a purist but why not drop a 2.5l Rover diesel??

Geff Sherman

eeymsmo(a)helpdesk.ntu.ac.uk:
>Hi,

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
>       Stuart
>                       Finger for various keys and codes     

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:12:11 +0100
From: u940470@tdh.no (Bengt M Tovslid)
Subject: Tires. 265*75/16

I have a LR-88 1963 and I wonder about I can use 265*75/16 tires on the LR ?

I have put in an Nissan LD 28 diesel engine. It was done by Coastal 
Engineering in Chard. It is a very good engine, but I can not recommend the 
garage who do the job. My friend used Motor and Diesel Engineering, and he 
is very pleased with the job they did.

Bengt M. Tovslid 
Norway

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From: starr_eric/furman@furman.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 10:10:21 -0500
Subject: unsubscribe

unsubscribe
Eric Neilsen
'95 Range Rover County LWB Classic

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Tires. 265*75/16
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:20:23 +0100 (MET)

| I have a LR-88 1963 and I wonder about I can use 265*75/16 tires on the LR ?
IMO they would look ugly on a SII. If you want to have more ground clearance
you could probably go for 7.5/16 or 235*85/16

| I have put in an Nissan LD 28 diesel engine. It was done by Coastal 
Any changes to the transmission? I think this dog will blow you a
Series tranny very soon.

Cheers,
Franz
---------------------------------------------------------------
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 15 Jan 97 08:30:32 MST
Subject: Camel Trophy Screen Saver

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
Yes, they are TDI.

I would like to "waterproof" the ignition on my EFI, any tips from anyone?

Dave...

Habit is the best of servants,       #=======#         _____l___
or the worst of masters.             |__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___
- Nathaniel Emmens                   | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
-                                    "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)
=========================================================================
From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
        RRO List <rro@playground.sun.com>
Subject: Camel Trophy Screen Saver
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 17:08:00 EST
Encoding: 16 TEXT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0

OK, it took just on two hours to down load the screen saver via the Internet
but having seen it, there is a question I need answered.

How did they get through that water without drowning the ignition?  Were the
cars all TDi engined?

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
Tel: +61 2 9339-6921
Fax +61 2 9339-6929
'83 Range Rover 3.5L manual
'87 Range Rover 4.8L auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660   -  for pictures see
http://oasis.bellevue.k12.wa.us/craig/hillman/hunter.html

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:32:54 -0800
From: Ed Hall <goldnet@vegas.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover

Beckett, Ron wrote:
> Ed wrote:
>      > It rund great, and starts cold with no problem. within a few minutes
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)]
> in when you turn the key?
> Like Dave, I too had an intermittent starter on a Toyota Corona (GM engined
> Australian version).

The starter works just fine, will sit there and turn until the battery
goes flat.  I just don't get a spark to any of the plugs.  Once the
beast cools off, then it starts right up.  I have found that if I leave
the hood up, that it cools down faster and leaves me sitting there less.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 10:51:39 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover

>.The starter works just fine, will sit there and turn until the battery 
>goes flat.  I just don't get a spark to any of the plugs.  Once the 
>beast cools off, then it starts right up.  I have found that if I leave 
>the hood up, that it cools down faster and leaves me sitting there 
>less.

Could be vapor lock in the fuel line. Try making sure that the lines don't 
get too close to hot parts of the engine, and that there's no parts of the 
line that are higher than the carb inlet
Unless of course you are SURE that it is lack of spark. How do you know 
this? Have you tested the wires to see if they spark when held to a ground?
Watch for shocks please...

DaveB.

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From: Tony Treace <atreace@hasimons.com>
Subject: RE: Ramsey Winch
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:55:00 -0800

Sounds like a good deal. UPS COD should be about $40. What do you want   
for crating, handling, etc?

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From:  renken@primenet.com[SMTP:renken@primenet.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, January 15, 1997 1:01 AM
Subject:  Ramsey Winch

The '58 Ser I 107" pickup I recently acquired (you buy cars, acquire
Land-Rovers) has a Ramsey drum winch operated by the front PTO.  It is
labeled model 200R-98, Capacity 8000 lbs, Serial number 37289.  It is a
substantial unit with its own subframe.  It looks kinda like it was   
dealer
installed.  I do not know if it works (the engine is down for the   
moment).
I am willing to give it away, along with the drive shaft back to the PTO
gear box (but not to include the PTO box) to anyone who pays the shipping
(it weighs about 75 lbs!).  From Arizona.
     Denny

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From: "Mark Talbot" <rangerover@top.monad.net>
Subject: Winter Romp 2 
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:10:27 -0500

Okay, I screwed up. The BSROA is going on the RN off-road school the
weekend of Feb 1st. So I'm pushing the Winter Romp back a week to SUNDAY
FEB 9th. This is to accomodate those that are going to the BSROA event. 

Mark

1988 RANGE ROVER - Beluga Black -  Decked out to get muddy
1991 RANGE ROVER - Ardennes Green - Plushmobile

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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:10:23 -0800
From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout)
Subject: wood engine (PRODUCER GAS)

By heating wood scrap (or other plant material), a rich combination of fuel 
gasses (methane, hydrogen, ketones, amines, alcohols, etc...) are produced, 
along with water vapor, CO2, etc, called "Producer gas". The heat can be 
provided externally or by partly combusting the material directly. They 
aren't very efficient, providing a very poor quality fuel compared to 
gasoline or diesel, but have other obvious advantages except for power in 
heavily vegetated areas. A disadvantage is they easily explode if too much 
air is allowed into the reaction chamber.
JohnO
'64 109 5-door oilburner

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:18:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Ed Hall <goldnet@vegas.infi.net> wrote:

>The starter works just fine, will sit there and turn until the battery
>goes flat.  I just don't get a spark to any of the plugs.  Once the
>beast cools off, then it starts right up.  I have found that if I leave
>the hood up, that it cools down faster and leaves me sitting there less.

Check to see if there is a ballast resistor in the circuit....if so, its a good 
possibility that its got some intermittent problem related to heat.  Anyway, 
they're pretty cheap ($5 or so) so its worth a shot.

Rgds,
_______________________________________________________________________
Eric Zipkin  Bedford, NY  USA  *  ericz@cloud9.net  * www.cloud9.net/~ericz
SIII 109" V8 Hardtop * SII 109" SW (since new) * '63 Triumph Spitfire
SIIA 88" (project car)  *  '67 Mini-Moke * '94 Car Trailer: "NOT FOR HIRE"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:22:20 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels:Turbines

>Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

>There's one for sale (a Rover turbine) in Jan LROi and Feb LRW - "ideal
>for experimental
>Land Rover" or something like that. Yes, right.
>They're asking a few grand I think!!

        More Rover turbine tidbits. Rover's invlovment in turbines goes
back to WW2.Rover participated in the design of the first allied jet engine
(for the Gloster Meteor), the Rover-Whittle B26, but in 1943 handed off to
Rolls Royce who had the better facility.
        Rover got seriously into gas turbines, starting with a converted
Rover 75 in 1948. This evolved into Jet-1 (see her at Gaydon!), a mid
engined hybrid with a 200hp @ 40,000rpm, 2 shaft turbine that was later
uprated to 220 hp. In 1952, the car set a record on the Jabbeke Highway of
151.96mph and, according to Spen King, it could have done 160. 0-60 times
were 6.5 seconds.
        In 1952, T-2, a basically standard saloon, was built with a modest
120hp turbine. This car was followed in 1956 by T-3, a custom 'glass
bodied, rear engined, four wheel drive, four wheel disc brakes jewel with a
110hp turbine that could do 0-60 in 10.5 seconds at topped out at over
100mph. (T-3 is also at Gaydon). This was Spen's favorite.
        T-4, of 1961, was the last Rover turbine street car and was based
on the P6 design (Rover 2000).It had a 140hp turbine and could do 115mph.
this car almost made it to production as an option for the 1963 P6.(see T-4
at Gaydon)
        Rover fielded a turbine race car, the Rover-BRM, that race at
Lemans twice, in the 1963 and 1965 races. The first time out it was not an
offical place earning entrant, but it would have placed 7th had it been in
the running. In 1965, driven by Jackie Stewart and Graham Hill, it placed
10th, despite a severe engine problem. It was powered by a 150hp turbine
and was banned from further competition.
        In a turbine car race staged at Silverstone some years later, Jet-1
(after being in storage 10 years) was proven the fastest of the bunch by a
big margin. They should have taken Jet-1s engine for Lemans.
        Rover turbines powered  a '50s era ex-RN motor launch, Torquil, to
become the first gas turbine powered boat. Rover built thousands of turbine
APUs and starting engines for jets and a fish processing turbine that ran
on fish oil.This is probably the one that's for sale in LROI.
        Leyland built several turbine powered big-rigs in the 1970s and
that was the end of the program.

        These were not your Auntie's Rovers.

        Jim Allen

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From: "John D. Putnam" <jdputnam@whpacific.com>
Subject: RE: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:24:20 -0800
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ed,

I had the same problem with my 90 Talon.  It only happened during the =
winter months when the gas mixture is changed to help with pollution.  =
Never figured out how to stop it so I sold the car.  Damn shame, it was =
a fun little car.

John Putnam
Forest Grove, OR

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From: 	Ed Hall
Sent: 	Monday, January 13, 1997 1:48 PM
Subject: 	Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover

Ok all you mechanics out there, Lets see if we can figure this out.

	I have a 1979 Ford Van (I know I am asamed of myself, but I need
something else for when my Lany is getting its frame replaced this
summer)  It rund great, and starts cold with no problem.  If I started
it hot within a few minutes of turning it off, it will start right up.
But if it sits for say about 15 minutes, then it will not start again
until it has cooled down completly, which might take and hour or more.
What I know is that it is an Electric problem. (no spark, but will turn
over.)  So far we have replaced the Coil twice all the plugs and wires,
rewired the electronics, replaced the Electronic Egnition, the
Distributer.  So does any one have any ideas on what it can be?  I need
to get it fixed so I can get back to rebuilding my landy.  Thanks for
any and all ideas   Ed Hall

Ed Hall's Place on the Net
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/3912

------ =_NextPart_000_01BC02BD.82311320

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From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar-MS)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:25:20 -0600
Subject: Re: Men's Journal--original article

Jeff posted...

> readings of 300,000 miles aren't uncommon.  "These babies are
> indestructible."

Yeah, sure buddy. Unless they rust to death. Maybe I should post photos   
of the FJ40 I had for two years - sort of before and after shots. That'd   
give these guys an idea of what two years in the snow belt will do to an   
"indestructible" vehicle.

The rust stains on my driveway have just now begun to fade. I do not lie.

Yes, I know first hand that Rovers have their own rust problems, but   
replacing the frame after 30 years of hard work doesn't seem as   
unreasonable as replacing the body after 12 years of street driving.

Tim
 ---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com (this account will expire in -10- days)
'66 IIa 88 SW

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:23:47 -0400
Subject: Re: More ??? on winches (was Re: Capstan Winch Gearing)

Re: Helicopter recovery for the OVLR light off-road:

Performed by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, I have no doubt....

          aj"Don't visualize....."r

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:39:24 +0000
Subject: Re: Perkins 4203 Diesel conversion

> 	It's got to that time when the engine in my 75 SIII is costing too
> much to recon, so a new engine looms. I've been offered a Perkins 4203
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> don't mind minor hassles, but I'd like to be able to do it over a weekend
> or something.
I'd be supprised. If you have a 2.25l Rover engine you need to move 
the top of the radiator forward a bit (about 1") to clear the fan 
pully. It's pretty much a drop in on the 6cyl L/R's.

There are a number of adaptor mfg's. and some adaptors need a bit of 
mods to the motor mount horn, or to the engine mount adaptors themselves 
if you have a 6 cyl L/R.

Depending on the type of oil filter on the Perkins, you may have to 
relocate it, or get a different type filter. (A spin-on filter on a 
Perkins conversion I did got punctured by the driveshaft when the 
owner hit a big bump. requiring a rebuild of the engine. Ouch!)

The bellhousing adaptor on the kits I used required notching on the 
88 to keep the front prop shaft from hitting it.

You'll need an overdrive or RR ring & pinons or both.

Very good fuel economy, around 30mpg US.

The Perkins engines are prone to trash SIII gearboxes unless you're 
*very* gentle with your shifting and throttle. Some companies sold a 
conversion that essentially converted it to a SIIa box.

It's a tough engine. (Perkins is the largest mfg of diesels in the 
world)

That's all I can think of off teh top of my head. Hope I didn't scare 
you off.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:17:42 -0800
From: Ed Hall <goldnet@vegas.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover

Bobeck, David R. wrote:
> >.The starter works just fine, will sit there and turn until the battery
> >goes flat.  I just don't get a spark to any of the plugs.  Once the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> this? Have you tested the wires to see if they spark when held to a ground?
> Watch for shocks please...
> DaveB.

I have checked and it is getting gas into the carb.  But hen I check the
spark on each plug, I get no spark.  I have changed out the Plugs,
Wires, Cap, Roter, Distrubuter, Coil (X2), & Electronic Modual.  The
motor only has about 10,000 miles since it was replaced, and the batter
and cables were all replaced this summer.  

The part that gets me is that it will start hot if it has just been
turned of (within about 15 minutes.  Then it will not start again until
it cools down completely.  Friends and I have worked on this, with no
luck at all, it seems to me I have replaced every part of the
electronics atleast once some parts twice, but it just will not spark at
all.  I must be over looking something, but what is it?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:22:42 -0800
From: Ed Hall <goldnet@vegas.infi.net>
Subject: Looking for a frame

I am looking for a frame for a 1961 IIA 88".  My Landy is a Right Hand
Drive, but I understand that it is easy to convert a Left Hand Drive
frame over.  It will be about May before I can get it, and I would like
something on the Western US, though I will be taking a long vacation
drive this summer and so could go anywhere.  I know that I can get a new
one from Rovers North for around $2,000 but am willing to save money if
I can.  I also need both door upper halfs, and who knows what else I
will find when I get started taking it apart.  If anyone has these Items
that they wish to part with or can point me in the right direction, then
please let me know.  I am planning to start taring down my Landy this
summer, and expect it to take me about a year.  Thanks Ed

------------------------------

From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:43:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: General Purpose Vehicle

Mark,

Other than Fort Benning, GA and some other U.S. bases with "black" (read
Special Operations Forces), you probably won't see any Land Rovers.  Saw a
couple of the Ranger Pink Panthers a while back at Benning.  Sorry no photos
- something about "...will be shot without warning!"  (OOOOOHHHHHNNNNOOOOO)

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: Peter Reynolds <Peter_Reynolds@imarketinc.com>
Date: 15 Jan 97 11:34:54 
Subject: importing 101's

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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:48:39 -0800
From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout)
Subject: Perkins 4203 in series

I've no personal experience, but my research indicates that the Perkins are 
not well suited to the series vehicles. They are heavy, bulky, slow-turning 
engines, albeit very durable and reliable. They fit nicely under Range  
Rover bonnets, though. The 4203/4236 are supposed to share blocks, to are 
likely to be the same size. John Rostykus (in the Bellevue area) has done a 
lot of research on retrofits for series vehicles. If he's reading this, 
perhaps he will respond? John R? OTOH, it has and can be done with the 
available kit, a point in its favor, and it's right there for you. I'd 
recommend going for it. Economy should be as good as the 2.25 under the same 
conditions, possibly better if you can take advantage of better gear ratios. 
You do have a Salisbury rear end, don't you?
JohnO
>	It's got to that time when the engine in my 75 SIII is costing too
>much to recon, so a new engine looms. I've been offered a Perkins 4203
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
>	Stuart
>	  		Finger for various keys and codes     

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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Sean P. Murphy)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:03:19 -0500
Subject: Re: General Purpose Vehicle

Lodelane@aol.com,Internet writes:
>Other than Fort Benning, GA and some other U.S. bases with "black" (read
>Special Operations Forces), you probably won't see any Land Rovers. 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>- something about "...will be shot without warning!" 
>(OOOOOHHHHHNNNNOOOOO)

Actually, I have access to a photo of a Fort Benning SOF Defender if
anyone's interested.  <GRIN>

-- 
Sean P. Murphy    - Project Director - (404)/727-2398 Voice
Emory University  - ITD/LearnLink    - (404)/727-2282 FAX

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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:23:57 -0800
From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout)
Subject: Cow Magnets again (was Gearbox)

An additional suggestion to anyone removing the gearbox-top (gear boxtop?? 
Can I send it in for a prize?): a powerful magnet will extract the detent 
balls before lifting the top off, so they don't drop into the gearbox. If 
one does drop in, the magnet can be used to remove it through the oil drain 
hole. It's one more use I've found for keeping a cow-magnet on the vehicle. 
JohnO
> Adrian writes
>Thanks Bill Leacock for putting me right - does that mean that I only
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
>little more security to the selector, though if the gears ar4e worn as I
>described in my earlier postings this extra spring load will make no 
difference.
> Regards   Bill Leacock  Limey in exile.
>Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
>89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:26:08 -500
Subject: Salisbury?

What is the advantage of a Salisbury differential?
Mark

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:30:13 -0800
From: Granville Pool <gpool@pacific.net>
Subject: Re: Tires. 265*75/16

Bengt M Tovslid wrote:

> I have a LR-88 1963 and I wonder about I can use 265*75/16 tires on the LR ?

I have a friend who has 265/75R16 BF Goodrich Mud-Terrains on his 
freshly-rebuilt 88.  As far as I know, his suspension is stock but fresh.  He 
has the tires mounted on steel Discovery wheels (seven-inch-wide rims).  He 
has done very serious off-roading with this vehicle (I've watched) and, as far 
as I know, has had no problems with clearance.

These wheels will work but if you use others with different rim-width or 
off-set, you might have clearance problems.  Tired springs would also be 
likely to cause problems.  I'd also mention that a 7" rim is minimum for this 
width tire.  An 8" rim would be good but would change the clearance so then 
you'd be on your own.  In any case:  YMMV

Cheers,

Granny

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From: "Brian Cotton" <bcotton@lia.lia.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:01:35 +0000
Subject: LR hire in SA

Hi All,

I have placed new info on my Web page about LR hire in South Africa 
in aid if the 1998 Jubilee tour of SA to which you are all invited !

have a look at http://www.dbn.lia.net/users/bcotton

Cheers

Brian Cotton
LRO Club of Southern  Africa

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:59:37 -0800
From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout)
Subject: Re: Salisbury?

They are stronger, as well as having stronger axles.
>What is the advantage of a Salisbury differential?
>Mark

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:18:01 +0000
From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Perkins 4203 in series

snip
> Rover bonnets, though. The 4203/4236 are supposed to share blocks, to are 
snip
The 4.236 and 4.203 are not the same block. The 4.203 & 4.192 share 
blocks (different bore size, 91.44mm & 88.9mm respectively and 127mm 
stroke)
The 4.208v (vehicular) is rated at 60bhp@2600rpm and max torque is 
19,7kgf m (143 lb ft)
Make sure you're getting the vehicular engine as the Ag engine  has 
a max rpm of 2250, and the industrial is 2000 w/the mech gov and 2400 
w/the hyd gov.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

------------------------------

From: "John D. Putnam" <jdputnam@whpacific.com>
Subject: RE: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:21:31 -0800
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just to add to my last comment.  In my case it was a vapor lock caused =
by the heating of the bastardized fuel.  Same thing, starts like a new =
car when it is cold but just spins over when its hot.  I just learned to =
live with it during the winter months, even thou it was a pisser to have =
a spent $20,000 and have it not start.

John P.

----------
From: 	Ed Hall
Sent: 	Wednesday, January 15, 1997 9:17 AM
Subject: 	Re: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover

Bobeck, David R. wrote:
> >.The starter works just fine, will sit there and turn until the =
battery
> >goes flat.  I just don't get a spark to any of the plugs.  Once the
	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 15 lines)]
> this? Have you tested the wires to see if they spark when held to a =
ground?
> Watch for shocks please...
> DaveB.

I have checked and it is getting gas into the carb.  But hen I check the
spark on each plug, I get no spark.  I have changed out the Plugs,
Wires, Cap, Roter, Distrubuter, Coil (X2), & Electronic Modual.  The
motor only has about 10,000 miles since it was replaced, and the batter
and cables were all replaced this summer. 

The part that gets me is that it will start hot if it has just been
turned of (within about 15 minutes.  Then it will not start again until
it cools down completely.  Friends and I have worked on this, with no
luck at all, it seems to me I have replaced every part of the
electronics atleast once some parts twice, but it just will not spark at
all.  I must be over looking something, but what is it?

------ =_NextPart_000_01BC02D6.42A0C2A0

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:33:49 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: John Riley and serial numbers

For those who want to check on their VIN for Land Rover, I have in my 
posession the serial number pages for 24436391 to 24436430 all 1969 Ser 
IIA manufactured between March and April 1969.  Lots of these vehicles 
went to the U.S.  I also have the VIN info on 144003915 and 144003954.  
These wer all in March through June of 1960.  Most went to Chile, Costa 
Rica, Libia and a few to U.S. and Canada.  Does anyone know about Land 
Rover at Hamilton.  I guess this was LR Canada at the time and it now is 
in a suburb of Toronto.  P.S. Who is collecting this data? Is it you 
Dixon?  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:37:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: John Riley and serial numbers

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, David Place wrote:

> in a suburb of Toronto.  P.S. Who is collecting this data? Is it you 
> Dixon?  Dave VE4PN

	Yes.  have a bunch awaiting my typing (or lack thereof) skills to
	put up on the web pages.  Tempted to find a scanner and just scan
	them all in.  Problem is that some of the originals are not that
	clear.  I understand Mr. Riley is going off microfilm copies of 
	original ledgers.  The photcopier, or whatever he has there is
	by no means the best.  Some lines are almost unreadable.

	Rgds,

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From: "Ferenc-Jan van Zijp" <ferencj@xs4all.nl>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:12:38 +0000
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels: wood engine?

Lo and behold, at 15 Jan 97 Adams, Bill spoke:

> I know!
> Rip out the engine and transmission, cut a big hole in the bulkhead, 
> remove the tailgate/barndoor and plop a Pratt & Whitney turbofan in 
<snip>
> streak across the sky.

Perhaps you're more the type for the bourbon/ whiskey-conversion 8-)

      - Ferenc    -    ferencj@xs4all.nl
                  -    fjvzijp@telecom.ordina.nl

Dogs look up to you and cats look down on you.
Pigs just treat you as equal.

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Camel Trophy Screen Saver
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 07:22:00 EST

GAHHH.  I knew someone would ask that.  It is on the Rovers North America 
web site.  It's about 2MB in size.  try 
http://www.landrover.com/win/site_directory.html

Ron

All Camel trophy vehicles for the last 2 years at least have , to my
knowledge, been TDIs. Haven't seen the screen saver, what's the URL for it?

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
 ----------

OK, it took just on two hours to down load the screen saver via the
Internet

but having seen it, there is a question I need answered.

How did they get through that water without drowning the ignition?  Were
the

cars all TDi engined?

Ron Beckett

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:29:33 -0500 (EST)
From: cmw@tiac.net (Christopher Weinbeck)
Subject: Combat Wombat

>Too bad I'd forgotten about my Minox B.  Now I really will have to go out
>and buy that Vespa GS I wanted last summer--but didn't buy because of the
>blown overdrive unit. (Or if TeriAnn is correct I'll need a "combat Wombat"
>trailbike like all of the *lucky* kids had when I was growing up.)

There you go!!

I've got a Hodaka Wombat that has been begging to go for a ride on the back
of my 109".

I thought it would be a perfect match -untill I was reminded of the ROKON
TRAILBREAKER!!!

That bike is the equivalent of a Rover!  And I even know where one is for
sale, cheap...

Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Christopher Weinbeck       Office Logic, Inc.      V (508) 392-0288
   _______                  7 Littleton Road        F (508) 692-0897   
  |__][_[_\__               Westford, MA 01886    Computerization for 
  |___\_|_]__]                                      the healthcare
    (o)    (o)  '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional        
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:31:56 -0700
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: John Riley and serial numbers

At 02:37 PM 15/01/97 -0500, Dixon Kenner, wrote
                I understand Mr. Riley is going off microfilm copies of 
>	original ledgers.  The photcopier, or whatever he has there is
>	by no means the best. 

        Judging by my copy, he's using a Lucas brand photocopier run off a
PTO on a rainy day.

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Cobra Media Communications.  Calgary, Canada

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:35:21 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Alternative fuel

Ferenc-Jan wrote:

>Been away, still no Landie but got my driver's licence, which is quite a   
>feat in the Netherlands. A first step towards happy rovering.

Congratulations again!

>More and more measures are been taken to put a leash on us happy   
>motorists at this side of the pond. One of them is steep taxes on fuel. I   
>wonder, what alternative fuels could be used in a LR with little (or a   
>lot) changes to the engine?

The thing to do is to get a Diesel car, I think. The running cost is a 
little more than half that of a gasoline car in most of Europe (the further 
east the cheaper, I think). Converting to LPG is another possibility, 
however, this takes a lot of money and space and restricts the use of the 
vehicle (most garages for instance are closed to LPG-fuelled vehicles here, 
and there are practically no filling stations any more). Also, when fuel 
prices went up a lot about 25 years ago, lots of people converted to 
tax-free LPG, and the government just sat there, smiling benevolently. After 
there was a certain customer base, mineral oil tax on LPG was introduced, 
and the market died within a few years. No idea what the situation is in the 
Netherlands.

As you may know, farmers get a refund on the mineral oil tax on Diesel in 
Germany (the tax is dedicated to build and maintain roads, and tractors use 
most of their Diesel off road, so it's only fair, or isn't it?). Anyway, 
this farmer converted his tractor to run on rape seed oil, which he produced 
himself. The tax people caught him and made hiom pay tax because every 
vehicle fuel has to be taxed in Germany. When he asked for his refund he 
couldn't get it because the refund is only for Diesel, not for rape seed oil...

Not much help, is it?
Regards
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

------------------------------

From: Tony Treace <atreace@hasimons.com>
Subject: RE: Combat Wombat
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:58:00 -0800

A Rokon? WHERE?!    I've been wanting one of those for about 10 years!

 ----------
From:  cmw@tiac.net[SMTP:cmw@tiac.net]
Sent:  Wednesday, January 15, 1997 4:29 PM
Subject:  Combat Wombat

>Too bad I'd forgotten about my Minox B.  Now I really will have to go   
out
>and buy that Vespa GS I wanted last summer--but didn't buy because of   
the
>blown overdrive unit. (Or if TeriAnn is correct I'll need a "combat   
Wombat"
>trailbike like all of the *lucky* kids had when I was growing up.)
There you go!!

I've got a Hodaka Wombat that has been begging to go for a ride on the   
back
of my 109".

I thought it would be a perfect match -untill I was reminded of the ROKON
TRAILBREAKER!!!

That bike is the equivalent of a Rover!  And I even know where one is for
sale, cheap...

Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Christopher Weinbeck       Office Logic, Inc.      V (508) 392-0288
   _______                  7 Littleton Road        F (508) 692-0897
  |__][_[_\__               Westford, MA 01886    Computerization for
  |___\_|_]__]                                      the healthcare
    (o)    (o)  '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:01:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Alternative fuel

Thank you for reminding me why I moved from Germany to the U.S.! One needs  
that type of moral booster every so often.. ;-)

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:35:21 +0100, lopezba@atnet.at wrote:
> As you may know, farmers get a refund on the mineral oil tax on Diesel in
> Germany (the tax is dedicated to build and maintain roads, and tractors use 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> couldn't get it because the refund is only for Diesel, not for rape seed
> oil...
--
Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com>                      kuhtz@ix.netcom.com
Paranet, Inc.
http://www.paranet.com/         BOYCOTT INTERNET SPAM http://www.vix.com/spam 

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From: ben@bell-labs.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:32:42 -0500
Subject: tuning Solexes on v8, OD.. etc

Hi there..
I was so busy working last week I missed all this fun talk about the
Solex vs. SU, OD units, etc.

I have the stock 8.13CR v8, with 2 CD-175s, LT95 w. approx 1:1 hi ratio.
The stock needles are the "emission" BSFE (something like that) UK
version.  I CAN"T GET OVER 10 MPG!!!  I tuned the carbs w. a CO meter,
balanced w. the carb balancer, I shift really low (below 3k).
The plugs are not at all fouled.

Granted 1/3 of the trip to work is with choke on, but 10 MPG!!
The power is OK (if 100 HP in a 4000 lb truck is OK :), and the tailpipe
is not zest-fuly clean, so I could probably lean it out a bit..

It also feels like it drags a bit, but I checked out all 5 brakes.
Besides, if a brake dragged 5 mpg-worth , it would be red-hot?

Could anything in the diffs or x-fer case drag so much?  The only thing
that feels hot to touch is the x-fer case. 

Could the cam be so worn that the economy is so bad?  I tested th elift
with a dial gauge, but the lifters bleed down so fast it was hard to
read.  Anyway, it seeped closed enough to specs.

 Jim Allen??

About the OD for the LT95 - I was under impression these are impossible
to find 2nd hand in good shape (unless your name is Zipkin), so instead
I got the 1.3:1 hi-gear set from Fam4x4 ($120 or so), we'll see how it
works in the spring...

Meanwhile, if I don't figure out the fuel economy situation, I will
probably stop my v8 stroker efforts and look into a diesel conversion.

rgds
Jan

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: General Purpose Vehicle
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 10:07:00 EST

Lodelane@aol.com,Internet writes:
>Other than Fort Benning, GA and some other U.S. bases with "black" (read
>Special Operations Forces), you probably won't see any Land Rovers.
      [ truncated by lro-lite (was 7 lines)]
>- something about "...will be shot without warning!"
>(OOOOOHHHHHNNNNOOOOO)
Sean P. Murphy   replied

>Actually, I have access to a photo of a Fort Benning SOF Defender if
>anyone's interested.  <GRIN>

Sean, will the "Use of Deadly Force Permitted" prevent you from posting it 
somewhere?

Ron

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:48:06 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: New LR Website

Hi All,

        I want to announce that before long, Four Wheeler will be hosting a
Land Rover page on their Website. Yours truly is to be the host. As many of
you know, Four Wheeler is the most Rover-friendly of the USA magazines.
Totally devoted to the green oval, the site will feature articles (some
reprinted from the magazine and some fresh), Aftermarket Product News, Land
Rover News, a version of Four Wheeler's "Old News" devoted to Land Rovers
and a tech column, in which I get to wrestle with your technical questions.
There will also be a "Reader's Rover's" section in which a few of your
trusty Land Rovers can be featured.
        It has often been lamented that North Americans don't have a
dedicated Land Rover magazine. I hope you will regard this as the next best
thing.
        The Four Wheeler Website can be found at
http://www.fourwheeler.com.Have a look, there's lots-o-good stuff. The new
site should be online within a month but I'll keep y'all posted. Items of
information, tech questions, flaming, comments, etc. should be directed to
my home address, fax line or e-mail shown below. I'll repeat this message
several times and pass the news around!

                Jim Allen
                2828 Oxford Avenue
                Grand Junction, CO 81503
                (970) 257-7521 fax
                jimallen@onlinecol.com, e-mail

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:08:32 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: tuning Solexes on v8, OD.. etc

Jan said:
>I have the stock 8.13CR v8, with 2 CD-175s, LT95 w. approx 1:1 hi ratio.
>The stock needles are the "emission" BSFE (something like that) UK
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>Could anything in the diffs or x-fer case drag so much?  The only thing
>that feels hot to touch is the x-fer case.

Jim says:
Not likely. Try coasting on level ground in neutral from 2-3 mph. It it
comes to a rapid, grinding halt, you may hava something dragging. It should
easly and lightly coast to a stop.
>Could the cam be so worn that the economy is so bad?  I tested th elift
>with a dial gauge, but the lifters bleed down so fast it was hard to
>read.  Anyway, it seeped closed enough to specs.
>balanced w. the carb balancer, I shift really low (below 3k).

Jim says:

        Possible. Are you getting any lifter noise? Try checking again with
the rocker arms removed (use the pushrod for taking the mesurement) and
don't just test one or two as you might test the only good ones on the cam.
Anything over .005-.008" wear means you are though the hardening. Do each
test carefully and retry each one until you get a consistant reading. The
pushrod may walk a bit but if you are careful, the pushrod hole in the head
will support it sufficiently to take measurements.

        Before you get into the heavy duty stuff, I'd check your
distributor advance mechanisms. Remove your dist. cap and make sure the
mechanical advance works freely by rotating the rotor clockwise. If not,
cure the problem with a penitrating oil. If it's OK, do a bit of PM by
putting a drop of oil down the center of the shaft.
        Next, make sure that the vacuum advance by sucking on the vacuum
line and making sure it holds vacuum and rotates the breaker plate
counter-clockwise.
        Finally set your points to spec and set your timing. I advise
12-14BTDC for your low-comp engine. I realize this is 6-8 degrees over spec
but power and economy will benifit. You may have to run premium fuel.Most
low comp engines can run up to 8-10BTDC on regular.
        Also, double check your mileage-checking proceedure. Always fill
your tank to the same level every time you check. If your odometer is off
(reading fewer miles than actual) your mileage will calculate low.
Normally, if your speedo is reading close, your odo is OK also.
        If everything else checks out, double-check your carbs. Get back to
us and let us know what you find.

        Jim Allen

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:10:39 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: SOF Defender

>>Actually, I have access to a photo of a Fort Benning SOF Defender if
>>anyone's interested.  <GRIN>

        If this is serious, Jim Allen is seriously interested.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:18:37 -0800
From: Heather Dixon <hldixon@top.monad.net>
Subject: .

unsubscribe

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From: erc@yahoo.com (Eric Ng)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:50:46 -0800
Subject: 1997 defender 90 sw

i had a deposit down on a 1997 defender 90 station wagon but
unfortunately got shorted when l.r.n.a. sent less than were ordered.

or at least that's what the dealer, land rover san jose, told me.

they did also tell me that there will most likely be another station
wagon production run in the summer... july or so...

anyone else in the same boat? anyone else dealt with l.r. san jose?

i'm starting to wish i'd gone with r.a.b. (san rafael, ca) or british
motor cars (san francisco, ca) or cole european.

-eric

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:38:07 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Engine adapter

You may remember a few weeks ago I was looking for an engine adapter 
pattern to do a rebuild of an other Land Rover.  Thanks to Greg Moore I 
received a nice one in the mail.  My son's teacher was pleased enough 
with it to decide to use the plan for a class project.  They are going to 
make a real pattern and then do a cast in aluminum for me.  I get to keep 
the result free :-)  Nice gift and I hope it works out.  I suspect I will 
have to hone a hole or two but what the heck this is Land Rover stuff and 
where is the fun if you don't have to work a bit for the result.  Dave 
VE4PN

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Combat Wombat
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 10:17:00 EST

>I've got a Hodaka Wombat that has been begging to go for a ride on the back
>of my 109".

Only the Japanese could name a bike a Wombat.  If they had ever seen a 
wombat
 - it's an Australian marsupial that eats roots, shoots and leaves (hence 
the reason
 that some men are called wombats).  They live in burrows.  It's hard to 
describe
 what they look like and how big they are.  Probably about 2 foot high (600 
mm)
 and are fat and waddle along.

Don't hit one with your car - they will sure make a mess of it.  They are 
too short
for your bull bar to save the car.

Talking of Japanese names, I saw a Subaru Gravel. yesterday.  A Gravel?  If 
you rolled it,
would it suffer from gravel rash?

Regards,

Ron Beckett

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:46:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ZippyTow Service Application

Dixon Kenner writes:
"So Zippy-tow does offer trail-side assistance, er recovery service"

Dixon:

You probably are not eligible for this service until you have filled out an
application form and submitted it for acceptance.  For your convenience,
please find the form attached.  (Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with this
organization in any manner whatsoever.)

Paul Donohue
1965 IIa Mobile Oil Spot Applicator

               APPLICATION FOR ZIPPY-TOW TRAILSIDE ASSISTANCE
Name: _____________________________________________________________________
Nickname: _________________________________________________________________
Address (RFD): ____________________________________________________________
Daddy (If unknown, attach a list of three suspects): ______________________
Neck shade: ( ) Light Red ( ) Medium Red ( ) Dark Red ( ) Other
Number of teeth exposed in full grin:  Upper: __________; Lower: __________
Model of Land-Rover: ___________________ Tire Size: _______________________
How many Land-Rovers in front yard? __________ How many on blocks? ________
While clearing your yard, have you ever found a car you forgot you owned?
Hounds: __________ Type: ( ) Blue Tick ( ) Beagle ( ) Black & Tan ( ) Other
How many kitchen appliances on front porch? _________ Back porch? _________
When and where was your last "Elvis" sighting? ____________________________
Do you wear mostly polyester pants with snags?  ( ) Yes ( ) No
Do you own any shoes (not boots)?  ( ) Yes ( ) No
Are you married to any of the following (circle all that apply)? ( ) Sister
  ( ) Cousin ( ) Cousin's sister ( ) Aunt ( ) Other: Explain: _____________
Does your wife weigh more than your Land-Rover?  ( ) Yes ( ) No
Can you sign your name and always spell it right?  ( ) Yes ( ) No
Have you EVER had more than one bath in a week?  ( ) Yes ( ) No Explain:

                            Medical Information

Do you have at least two of the following: ( ) B.O. ( ) Crabs ( ) Lice
  ( ) Bad Breath ( ) Crossed Eyes ( ) Scabies ( ) Runny Nose ( ) Fleas
  ( ) Tattoos    ( ) Brown Teeth  ( ) Yellow Teeth ( ) Green Teeth
  ( ) Any Teeth  ( ) Number of teeth missing: ________

                            General Information

Can you count past 10 with your shoes on?  ( ) Yes  ( ) No
Can you count past 21 with fly up?  ( ) Yes  ( ) No
Favorite Weapon: ( ) Tire Iron ( ) Beer Bottle ( ) Tow Chain ( ) Shotgun
Favorite Pastime: ( ) Drinking ( ) Coon Hunting ( ) Fishin' ( ) Gambling
Rover equipped with: ( ) Gun Rack ( ) Fuzzbuster ( ) 8 track ( ) Rebel Flag
                 ( ) Rollbar ( ) C.B. Radio ( ) Beer Cans ( ) Squirrel Tail
Favorite Singer: ( ) Willie Nelson ( ) Johnny Cash ( ) Elvis
                 ( ) Conway Twitty
Bumper Stickers: ( ) Honk if you Love Jesus ( ) Dial 1-800-Eat-Shit
                 ( ) Old Fart
Cap Emblems: ( ) John Deere ( ) CAT ( ) Skoal ( ) Budweiser ( ) Jack Daniels
Memberships: ( ) NRA ( ) VFW ( ) KKK ( ) 700 Club ( ) B.P.O.E. ( ) LROA

Your Signature
(an X will do): ______________________________________ Date: ______________
                                    ***

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:46:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Locktite Replacement

Re: Locktite Replacement

A cost effective Locktite replacement for the frugal Land Rover fixer can be
a bottle of fingernail polish.  Even has it's own little applicator brush in
the cap.  These can be borrowed from wife, daughter, mother, girlfriend or
neighbor.  In dire extremes, you could actually buy the stuff at a store.
Be sure to ask the clerk if they think your choice of color will compliment
your greasy hands.

Paul Donohue
1965 Land Rover (it is raining in here!)

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:50:03 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Muncie 4 speed conversion.

Hi All,
  I have been working on a project for installing a 3.8 GM engine into a
109 LR.  Today I spoke to a company that once produced an adaptor to fit
the GM muncie 4 speed engine to the LR transfer case.  The adaptor is
currently out of production & I wondered if there is any interest out
there for this.  To help you understand this will provide bolt on
connection of any standard GM small block engine & a strong
transmission. (350, 283, 4.3.etc)
  I am only interested in one for myself but I am guessing that interest
would incourage the company to pruduce some again.

Please let me know if your interested.

Regards,
  Rob Davis_chicago

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:03:09 -0500 (EST)
From: rovah@agate.net (John Cassidy)
Subject: Series III Acceleration Problem Persists

   Took the Series III to my mechanic to see if he could find out why it
was bogging on acceleration(after exhausting all problems I could think
of), and he was able to advance the timing a bit, which cures the extreme
bogging(near stall) with hard accleration.  I can now drive around without
the choke, but I have no power(not like I should) with the pedal to the
floor...the second half of the pedal travel makes no difference in
acceleration.
    Everything looks fine, and all I can think of is the accelerator pump
in the Zenith, and/or the vacuum advance unit.  I'm tempted to replace both
of these.  Any other ideas?
   BTW, the front end is now rebuilt, and the brakes actually work!
Heheheh...nice to be able to stop! ;-)

Cheers!  John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA
X0 of the VMFA 509th COUGARS/Flying GSC's F/A-18 Hornet game

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover-"Smedley," 1966 Series IIA 88",
1974 Series III 88"-"SWAMBO"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:17:56 -0500
From: blainh@accent.net (Blain Hughes)
Subject: Exporting a Land-Rover to the US

Hi
Can anyone tell me about the 25 year rule for exporting a vehicle to the
US? My Series 111 was made in June of 1972 does that mean I cannot sell it
in the US untill June of this year or do they consider all cars to be built
on Jan 1st and thus any 1972 Land-Rover would be eligible for export? I
will exporting the vehicle from Canada if this makes any difference.

Blain Hughes
1959 Austin Healey 100/6
1968 Rover TC
1969 Land-Rover 11a 88
1972 Land-Rover 111 88

------------------------------

From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Need mechanic help - but not on my Land Rover
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 11:13:00 EST

The part that gets me is that it will start hot if it has just been
turned of (within about 15 minutes.  Then it will not start again until
it cools down completely.  Friends and I have worked on this, with no
luck at all, it seems to me I have replaced every part of the
electronics atleast once some parts twice, but it just will not spark at
all.  I must be over looking something, but what is it?

Ed,

In electronics, when we get this type of fault, we get out the freezer spray
and spray each component in turn.

Get it at your local electronics store.

Ron

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:42:54 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Exporting a Land-Rover to the US

At 09:17 PM 1/15/97 -0500, Blain Hughes wrote:
:Hi
:Can anyone tell me about the 25 year rule for exporting a vehicle to the
:US? My Series 111 was made in June of 1972 does that mean I cannot sell it
:in the US untill June of this year or do they consider all cars to be built
:on Jan 1st and thus any 1972 Land-Rover would be eligible for export? I
:will exporting the vehicle from Canada if this makes any difference.

 You vehicle is over 25 years old, in fact, 25 years and 6 months.
 As of this month, any 1972 vehicle is eligible for the DOT exemption
(1997-25= 1972 is OK!)  The EPA exemption is 21 years.  The bigger
 question is what are the state SMOG regulations, ie in California all
 vehicles 1966 and younger must still meet SMOG regulations for the model
 year of the car, forever! 

 Regards,
                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                  72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers
 510-988-0900          [________]               www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 cs@crl.com _________.._(o)__.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597

------------------------------

From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: BSROA Winter Driving Course
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:09:23 -0500

Due to several cancellations of pre-registered persons, we have room for =
about five persons to attend the BSROA/RN Winter Driving Course Feb 1-2.

The details on tuition/lodging/itinerary are available through me by =
private posting.

Cheers
Jim

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 22:44:29 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Series III Acceleration Problem Persists

>.
>Everything looks fine, and all I can think of is the accelerator pump
>in the Zenith, and/or the vacuum advance unit.  I'm tempted to replace 
>both of these.  Any other ideas?

Replace  the accelerator pump first. The vacuum advance is not likely to be 
the cause of it. You should be able to run ok without vaccuum adavance. 
Centrifugal advance is what gives you your real power. I have a friend with 
a 74 that has the vaccum line disconnected. Runs fine. Reason why? He still 
has the vaccuum retard distributor that was part of the emissions control 
on US spec SIII's. With all of the pieces fitted your timing at 800 
something RPM would be 6 degrees After Top Dead Center. This is clearly 
stated on the plaque just in front of the radiator. If this dist. is still 
fitted, 'twould possibly be the cause of your problem. It would be the 
domed cap type of dist. Do you have another dist. that is known to be good? 
Pop it in and see what happens. Any SII or IIa dist should work. 
 BTW, you could have a weak centrifugal advance spring in the dist. Another 
case for plopping a spare one in there for a test before you go throwing 
good money away on unnecessary carb rebuilds, etc...
Keep us posted please...
Later
DaveB.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:06:34 -0500
From: "Brian Cramer" <defender@uscom.com>
Subject: Classic LR Insurance

Hello All,

Does anyone insure their Series vehicle with a Classic Vehicle Insurance
Carrier? What is their name? Phone number? Any comments re: rates, service,
coverage. Any info will help. Thanks.

Cheers,

Brian Cramer
'94 D90 (LRNA #1251)
'90 RR County
'73 SIII swb

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Looking for a frame (RHD>LHD)
From: dcockey@juno.com (David Cockey)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:43:32 EST

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:22:42 -0800 Ed Hall <goldnet@vegas.infi.net>
writes:
>I am looking for a frame for a 1961 IIA 88".  My Landy is a Right Hand
>Drive, but I understand that it is easy to convert a Left Hand Drive
>frame over. 

You might want to get a parts book and go through it noting the parts
which are different. Some are not obvious.

Regards,
David Cockey

------------------------------

Subject: Re: importing 101's
From: dcockey@juno.com (David Cockey)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:43:32 EST

On 15 Jan 97 11:34:54  Peter Reynolds <Peter_Reynolds@imarketinc.com>
writes:

>I am half entertaining the idea of a buying a 101.  however i have 
>lots of  questions obviously.  The biggest of which is what do I have to
do get 
>one of  these in the country (states) are they legal to import? do I
have to 
>cut a few corners? is it a mega-hassle?

To legally import a vehicle into the U.S. it has to be acceptable for
both safety and emissions. Safety requirements basically require the
vehicle to be at least 25 years old (I was looking at the relevant FMVSS
section last week).  I don't know any details on the emissions regs, but
have heard that individuals can get waivers from the EPA on vehicles over
25 years old.

Production of 101s started in 1975; so by my math you need to wait at
least 3 years to be legal. Of course you can try mis-representing the
vehicle on the customs declaration (may be considered a violation of
Federal law), or importing a vehicle kit (not sure what qualifies as a
kit as compared to a vehicle).

Regards,
David Cockey

------------------------------

Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels:Turbines
From: dcockey@juno.com (David Cockey)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:43:32 EST

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:34:57 -0700 jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
writes:
>A gas turbine engine was installed in a Land Rover as an experimant in 
>the
>early 1960s when Rover was pursuing their turbine car projects. 

When I was at the University of Delaware in the mid-70's the Mech Eng
dept had a Rover gas turbine demo unit. As I recall it consisted of a gas
turbine on a stand with some instrumentation. A couple of students
finally got it running after it had sat for years. I wonder how many
other schools purchased these units, and how many still exist..

Regards,
David Cockey

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:56:41 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Cheap Parts from LR, HA, HA!

At 07:34 PM 1/15/97 -0800, Dale W. Avery wrote:
:I just received the Winter '97 edition of THE GEARBOX, the Rover Owners'
:Association of Virginia's newsletter.  In it is a letter written by Michael
:Carradine entitled "Rumors, Ramblings and Rumblings".  Either Michael is
:laying a late April Fool's joke on me, or I'm about to get the cold sweats.  
:
:According to Michael, Land Rover is planning to roll back its prices on
:"fast-moving Series parts."  evidently, after spurning the Series crowd for
:years, and losing 60% of market share, LR now feels it needs to save us from
:the flourishing parallel spurious parts network inundating us with
:"low-quality after-market parts".  LR lawyers are rooting out copyright and
:logo infringements, and it plans to penalize suppliers who supply parts to
:the parallel market.  
:
:Personally, I like the parts availability we have at the moment.  It's a
:free market environment where a large number of small businesses are
:competing for our purchases.  I haven't had any problems buying anything I
:need, and all the dealers (so far) have sold me nothing but high quality
:parts.  I would hate to see us end up relying on one "genuine parts" dealer
:in the Northeast.  I have no complaint about the quality, service, and
:support from that supplier, but I find similar quality, service and support
:at several others, at much better prices.  And they are geographically
:closer to me.
:
:I, for one, hope that Michael's reliable rumors turn out to be only that,
:rumors.  I realize something is in the air.  When ordering parts today from
:a Left Coast business, I was told they didn't have a up to date price list
:available because they were in contact with LR over recent price changes.  I
:must be a cynic, because somehow I don't see LR lowing prices to them.
:-----
:Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy - 1973 SIII 88" Land Rover (#25902747 B) 
:     "No matter where you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

 You're right Dale, I'm making it all up!

 And so is Land Rover World in the Feb '97 issue, pg 8.  In fact, we both
 independently conceived to create a little handbook of 1000 lower Series
 Land Rover prices, in UK pounds no less and with an identical cover showing
 the grille of a Series III, just to throw everybody off.  How did you 
 ever figure it all out? :)

 Seriously though, why break out in a cold sweat?  Land Rover has decided to
 get back into the fray and jump into the free market system by competing on
 price as well as quality.  Here in the US we should be benefiting even more
 as the "large number of small businesses competing for our purchases" will
 now have even better prices.  This will have all Land Rover owners winning.

 Land Rover World writes," 'Hundreds and Thousands' Solihull blitz on
 Series III parts.  In an initiative to win back sales from manufacturers
 of pattern parts, Land Rover has cut the price of 1000 Genuine Parts lines
 unique to the Series III.  This represents over 20% of the entire range
 for the model."  They go on to say, "Reductions which vary across the range
 approach 50% for some lines."  Land Rover does not hope to match third party
 reproductions of parts, but LRW reports "The aftermarket is full of ill
 fitting, poorly finished pattern parts which do owners of Series III vehicles
 no favours at all in terms of quality.  We've made it possible for owners
 to have the best of both worlds - guaranteed quality and affordable prices. 
 
 We have the new price book here, and frankly, our '72-88 Series III is in
 near ecstasy.  Not only are parts prices coming down, but there is the
 possibility that SB42 in California will pass making a 25 year expiry
 on SMOG regulation and testing.  Not to be outdone, world scientists are
 predicting a decade of low sun spot activity resulting in less electro-
 magnetic disturbance in the solar system.  Hey, maybe for awhile the
 Lucas electrics will indeed work again as designed. 

 Regards,                  Happy days are near again! 
                       ______ /
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                  72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers
 510-988-0900          [________]               www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 cs@crl.com _________.._(o)__.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:45:53 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: 1997 defender 90 sw

>i had a deposit down on a 1997 defender 90 station wagon but
>unfortunately got shorted when l.r.n.a. sent less than were ordered.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>i'm starting to wish i'd gone with r.a.b. (san rafael, ca) or british
>motor cars (san francisco, ca) or cole european.

Eric,
        Same thing happened to me when I ordered my 95 D90SW.  The dealer,
(in my case) took orders for more vehicles than they were allotted by LRNA.
Every dealer is dealt out a certian number of vehicles based on their
sales volume, but they all promise more than that to their customers for
some strange reason.  I was very irritated by this, because they knew all
along how many they were allowed and how many they had taken orders for.  I
got on the phone immediatly and called all the other LR dealers within a
days drive of me and finally found one that was just like what I had
ordered in Dallas.  Dallas is the second largest LR dealer in the country
(or so I was told) and were allotted 15 vehicles.  My local dealer was
allotted 4.  Call around, chances are you can find an unsold one yet, but
don't wait too long.

Steve Paustian
Flatland Rover Society
D90 SW

------------------------------

From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: ZippyTow Service Application
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 15:33:00 EST

Paul Donohue's form asked:

               APPLICATION FOR ZIPPY-TOW TRAILSIDE ASSISTANCE
snip
>Do you wear mostly polyester pants with snags?  ( ) Yes ( ) No

In Australia, a snag is either a sausage that one cooks on the BBQ or a 
Sensitive New Age Guy (we've read about them in women's magazines but they 
are not known to exist Down Under.  However, like all things, if it's 
American we'll eventually adopt it) 8->

Hmm, conbine sausage with polyester pants and one's mind boggles.

Regards,

Ron Beckett
+61 2 9339-6921 work
+61 47 35-6883 home
Emu Plains, Australia
'87 Range Rover 4.8L auto
'83 Range Rover 3.5L manual (for sale - surplus to my wife's requirements)
'67 Hillman Gazelle
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660
 -  for pictures see 
http://oasis.bellevue.k12.wa.us/craig/hillman/hunter.html

------------------------------

From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Series III Acceleration Problem Persists
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 15:37:00 EST

Series III Acceleration Problem Persists.

I thought this was standard on ANY Series III  8->

Ron

------------------------------

From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Engine adapter
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 14:57:00 EST

David Place wrote on Thursday, 16 January 1997 1:38PM

>You may remember a few weeks ago I was looking for an engine adapter
... snip
>I suspect I will
>have to hone a hole or two but what the heck this is Land Rover stuff and
>where is the fun if you don't have to work a bit for the result.  Dave
>VE4PN

Aha!  Definite proof from his own "mouth" (well, fingers) that Dave is a 
masochist.

Question:  What did the sadist say when the masochist asked him to beat him?

Answer:  "No!"

Regards,

Ron Beckett

------------------------------

From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: RE: Camel Trophy Screen Saver
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:01:00 +-100

OK, it took just on two hours to down load the screen saver via the
Internet

You must do something about it. I just downloaded 
both programms, Camel and Great Divide, took only 
11 minutes to europe. totaly 4.3MB.

Happy Rovering

Bent

_____________________________________

Bent Boehlers

Herlev, Denmark

e-mail: bb@olivetti.dk
URL: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3542

110" STW 12 seats, V8, 1983
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From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:00:16 +0100
Subject: screensaver

Ron mentioned a camel trophy screen saver, where can I find this on the net?

Philippe Carchon
'81 Lightweight ffr
Ghent, Belgium

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From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:08:20 +0100
Subject: multifuel rovers

My lightweight runs on LPG (even better than on petrol !), which is in 
Belgium 1/3 the price of petrol. The modification is easy. Taxes don't exist 
when you register your car as a small truck, if registered as a 'car' you 
have to pay a tax around 200 $/year (in Belgium). So I'm driving rather 
cheap (in the case of a LR).   

Philippe Carchon
'81 Lightweight ffr
Ghent, Belgium

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From: Alain-Jean PARES <Alain-Jean.Pares@InfoRoute.CGS.Fr>
Subject: RE: screensaver
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:27:40 +0100

>Ron mentioned a camel trophy screen saver, where can I find this on the net?

http://www.landrover.com/win/features/screensavers/screensavers.html

Alain-Jean PARES
88 Serie III Diesel RHD

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Muncie 4 speed conversion.
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 15:33:00 EST

Have you checked out Mark's 4WD Adaptors in Australia?  The have a web site
but I don't know the web site off-hand.

The 3.8 litre GM engine is produced in a modified form for rear wheel drive 
cars
in Australia by GMs Australian subsidiary the Holden Engine Co.
I know Marks do an adaptor for the Holden Jackeroo (Isuzu Trouper)

Regards,

Ron

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From: car4doc
Subject: Muncie 4 speed conversion.
Date: Thursday, 16 January 1997 11:50AM

Hi All,
  I have been working on a project for installing a 3.8 GM engine into a
109 LR.  Today I spoke to a company that once produced an adaptor to fit
the GM muncie 4 speed engine to the LR transfer case.  The adaptor is
currently out of production & I wondered if there is any interest out
there for this.  To help you understand this will provide bolt on
connection of any standard GM small block engine & a strong
transmission. (350, 283, 4.3.etc)
  I am only interested in one for myself but I am guessing that interest
would incourage the company to pruduce some again.

Please let me know if your interested.

Regards,
  Rob Davis_chicago

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:04:26 +1000
From: Ross <fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au>
Subject: 25th Anniverary booklet?

Hello. Does anyone know how many official 1948-1973 celebration booklets 
are around? Are they common? (They are foolscap glossy white with b&w 
pics similar to Robsons hardcover book.)
Also, does it mean they made a 20th or even 40th Anniv. booklet? 
Is anyone here a memorabilia expert?
Ross -no mechanical hassles at this time-F.
11a 88 1964

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 05:39:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels: wood engine?

In a message dated 15/01/97  13:39:09, you write:

<< Regarding electric power, I don't think it is a realistic option (yet). A
  
 L-R weighs far too much for the inefficient batteries that are (now)   
 available.
  >>

Hybrid diesel/electric vehicles are more efficient than standard diesel
vehicles.  The main drawback is most people do not like the feeling of
putting their foot down on the go pedal and accelerating away while the
engine note stays the same.  Diesel/electric trains are relatively common,
yet the technology never really made it accross to the road.  Partly, I
suspect because people are looking more for alternatives, rather than for
improving what we have.

Regards

Jamie

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: follow up on multifuels: wood engine?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 11:20:32 GMT

> In a message dated 15/01/97  13:39:09, you write:
> << Regarding electric power, I don't think it is a realistic option (yet). A
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
> yet the technology never really made it accross to the road.  Partly, I
> suspect because people are looking more for alternatives, rather than for
> improving what we have.

I think the bus company in Reading (as in Berkshire, and not some US
copycat! :-) ), tried  hybrid buses. They've dabbled with allsorts of designs,
but I haven't heard of anything continuing past initial trials.
I know they tried inertial flywheel systems. Attach a flywheel to the
the wheels to brake, then use this stored energy to help accelerate.
Something like a bus, where stopping & starting is common place, it makes
sense.
I think they've also tried "exotic" fuels (alcohol mixtures and the
like) too.

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: Alain-Jean PARES <Alain-Jean.Pares@InfoRoute.CGS.Fr>
Subject: RE: screensaver
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:25:03 +0100

Does somone knows how to extract an image from the screensaver to put in by 
background, I tried Print Screen key, but the colors are not the same ?

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Loctite
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 21:28:00 EST

<sob>  I'm sorry.  Mebbe I was thinking od the Dave Brubeck (sp?)
quintet?  I'll try to keep my typing fingers under control, next time.
Any spelling errors are due to the Lucas wiring between my
brain and my hands

Thanks for the nice words about my Hillman.  Until I got a Rangie,
it was my preferred transport.  Since getting the RR, our fuel bill has
gone thru the roof.    Ah well.

Regards
Ron

ROn Beckett misspells...

>Dave Brobeck replied:
That's BOBECK :-). Get it right, pal :-)

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