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1 | JDolan2109@aol.com | 24 | Re: LR security... |
2 | "S. Vels" [svels@mail-se | 26 | Re: UK LH/RH Travel... |
3 | Deezilbob@aol.com | 10 | Diesel manifold |
4 | MRogers315@aol.com | 27 | Bothersome V8 |
5 | lopezba@atnet.at | 25 | Re: Mounting a horse in ancient Greece |
6 | lopezba@atnet.at | 57 | Re: Collector/Historical Value |
7 | David Place [dplace@mb.s | 16 | Re: Collector/historical value |
8 | lopezba@atnet.at | 46 | Re: Clockwise |
9 | lopezba@atnet.at | 59 | Re: LHD/RHD with L-R content |
10 | RoverNut@aol.com | 11 | Re: Starter replacement? |
11 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 43 | SII engine parts (was Collector/historical value) |
12 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 28 | Re: Collector/Historical Value |
13 | "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du | 16 | Re: Mounting a horse in ancient Greece |
14 | Adrian Redmond [channel6 | 27 | EURO-bo**ocks |
15 | Andrew Howton [andrew_ho | 18 | Re: winch question |
16 | EvanD103@aol.com | 25 | Re: Broken Axles |
17 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 20 | Re: Broken Axles |
18 | Jim Pappas [roverhed@m3. | 82 | RE: LRMW Open House Report |
19 | "Alec Diamond" [alec@tel | 38 | Fitting spots to a 110 Defender |
20 | marsden@digicon-egr.co.u | 27 | Re: UK LH/RH Travel... |
21 | "T. Stevenson" [gbfv08@u | 34 | Re: front differential nut |
22 | bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Boh | 58 | RE: Fitting spots to a 110 Defender |
From: JDolan2109@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:10:54 -0500 Subject: Re: LR security... I guess we're lucky here in Vermont, which is ranked 50th for car theft in the US. I usually leave the keys in the ignition of 'Nicky', that way I'll know where they are! It's very rural here, and I might have the creakiest door hinge around, besides, it's not that easy to start and either requires hand primping at the pump or a lot of cranking. If I heard any activity, I'd just let the Rottweiler and Airedale out with 'orders' and go back to sleep. During my work day, I tend to leave the keys in as well, in case anyone might have to move it. Now that I think of it, the only time I do remove the keys is when we go off in it on vacation or something... And an abrieviated joke: ..............."Oh, and the keys to the Land-Rover, we just leave them in it, that way we'll know where they are. Oops! except in August, and then we always keep it well locked!" "But why do you lock it in August?" "Well, if we don't, someone may fill it with zuccinis!" see 'ya on the old road... Jim '61 LR 88" SW w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?) "Nicky" LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:18:13 +0001 Subject: Re: UK LH/RH Travel... > From: "David M. Schwarz" <dschwarz@pipeline.com> > Does anyone know of a clock which runs backwards. There are times > I wish I could make it so, but that's another story. There is a clock that runs backwards. Here in Denmark we make funny stories about Aarhusians (people from the city of Aarhus). I think it is very common in every country to make jokes about people from a certain area. So, here you can buy an Aarhus clock which runs backwards. The digits are printed backwards as well. The clock is often found in bars where slightly intoxicated customers are trying to tell whether it's time to go home and face the Home Guard Command. LR content?....hmmm...bars?? Well,- it's Sunday and the traffic is low. rgds sv/aurens ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Deezilbob@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 09:37:45 -0500 Subject: Diesel manifold Bill Adams writes that he needs a manifold for his diesel, assuming that it is the exhaust, I have several 2-litre, and 2 1/4 series 2a types. No series 3 type which the pipe drops down. If you still need it, let me know......d.b. ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: MRogers315@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:42:27 -0500 Subject: Bothersome V8 Hello all. I have a V8 playing up and although I have a few ideas of my own I would appreciate any input before I start pulling things apart and buying spares. The engine is an 84 RR spec V8 fitted with standard twin Stromberg carbs. The only modification being a Luminition electronic ignition kit, and a vacuum line running through the distributor body to remove moisture. It has run perfectly for three years in this form. The problem is two fold but I suspect only one fault. 1. When ticking over whilst the choke is on, when cold, the engine increases and decreases revs in a steady rhythmic pattern. 2. When running at low throttle openings in any gear the engine will occasionally die only to pick up again immediately when I touch the throttle Bye the way the engine is still in the RR chassis but for four years has been surrounded by Lightweight body panels. Making what I believe to be the ultimate Land Rover. Mike Rogers ( Range Rover / Lightweight Hybrid ) ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:49:14 +0100 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Re: Mounting a horse in ancient Greece Mike Rooth wrote: :just confuse matters,if anyone has read Vernam's "Man on Horseback" :(Tod?)back in the days of ancient Greece or whatever,a lancer had :a loop of leather about halfway up the lance shaft.To mount(bareback) :he stood on the *right* side of the horse,stuck his lance butt in the :ground,alongside the horses flank,put his *right* foot in the loop, :swung his left over the horse....which if mine is anything :to go by would by then have moved,thus depositing the unfortunate :squaddie flat on his face in the mud! This was before the stirrup was invented, which gave the inventors (the Mongols) a huge advantage over the low-tech west. Now let's see - L-R content? Elementary: The Greek horses apparently were designed with their drivers seat on the right, while later horses had them on the left. No center-steering models like the first L-R prototype... Regards Peter Hirsch Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:49:06 +0100 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Re: Collector/Historical Value Ron Franklin wanted to know what people think about changing reasonably original vehicles (a Series II in his case) around. Here's what I think: I just came back from visiting an old man in the countryside who has a 1957 88" Diesel that he is trying to sell. The car has had two owners, he is the second, and has been in a garage since 1974. For the last few years, he has tried to improve it, but after a bad heart attack this summer he decided to stop this activity, and now he is trying to sell. The car (and its history) makes your heart bleed. Imagine a relatively rare and desirable vehicle, with original good engine and gearbox, little superficial rust on chassis, good springs, very little play in the steering, the original Diesel decal on the grill. The current owner got it without any changes. Imagine him spraying the body silver and the hard top red, without the necessary skills (he thought it was negligent to leave some parts just galvanized and sprayed over them, too). Imagine him taking out the original seats (green vinyl, in this case) and recovering them in tasteful red cloth. Imagine upholstering doors and side walls with black leatherette covering and armrests from a car at the height of the armpits. Imagine a dashboard made from 12 mm fibreboard, with the original instruments and some additional stuff set into the new dash. Imagine a gearlever that would not clear the new dashboard and was replaced by a sportsy four-inch long lever with a leather gaiter. Imagine a Series One Land-Rover with car bumpers, both front and rear! The thing looks terrible. It is pretty useless as a car, since there are many much better engines with much better gearboxes in much better bodies around; and it is useless as a collectors item. The old man wanted about 5,000 USD for the car; I told him he would be lucky to get 1,500. It is really only good as a parts car, since the engine, gearbox and frame are still in good shape. He felt very bad about it since he had spent a lot of money and work on it and was facing a loss. Why do you want to improve an old and collectible vehicle? - It will still never be as good as a newer or new one. - You won't know what it really was like to use it. - Your action will reduce our heritage. - It will also reduce the value of the vehicle. Would you consider improving a van Gogh picture of a wheatfield by having a tractor painted in? Would you consider improving a colonial house with aluminum siding? I would leave it alone. If you want to play mechanic with a Land-Rover, get something relatively common and indifferent like a late Series III (although they will be rare in ten or fifteen years, too), or better something in really bad shape. Otherwise, if you have to make any changes, try to keep them reversible, document them, and keep whatever you remove. I am glad you asked, hope I was not too harsh. Just my two bits, anyway! Regards Peter Hirsch Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:27:13 -0800 From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Collector/historical value NateDunsmore wrote: > Ron Franklin wrote: > > The problem my conscience is encountering is with the next planned project, [ truncated by lro-digester (was 29 lines)] > 88" SIIa ("The Blue Brick" http://members.aol.com/naddmd/first.htm ) > dunsmo19@mail.idt.net Just my 2 cents worth, but a series II engine is almost impossible to get parts for now so why not go ahead and modify it just to keep it on the road. You can always put a IIA engine in later if you want something a bit more stock as it were. Dave VE4PN ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:43:23 +0100 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Re: Clockwise Amazing, the things we discuss on this list! David M. Schwarz wrote: >Have any of you considered the origin of "clockwise?" I believe it relates >back to Sundials in the Northern Hemisphere. :With North always at twelve O'clock, local apparent noon is the time, at the >sundial, at which a due south sun casts a due north shadow. The shadow is >cast in the west from an easterly sun in the morning, and the shadow, as the :sun moves from east to south to west, moves in a clockwise direction from >west to north to east. The first mechanical clockmaker, if he intended the >movement of the hands to duplicate what theretofore was only a function of :the sun and the rotation of the earth, I believe designed the hands to move >in the direction all were familiar with, and associated with, the >advancement of time. And thus was born the convention of clock hand :rotation fairly uniformly followed. Does anyone know of a clock which runs >backwards. There are times I wish I could make it so, but that's another >story. Great theory - except that in the northern hemisphere the shadow moves counterclockwise, of course, from the left side to the lower side to the right side. The sun moves clockwise. Maybe clocks were invented in the southern hemisphere? Actually I think clock hands turn in the direction they do turn in in order to allow boy scouts to find South without a compass! As for clocks running backwards: the clock on the Jewish town hall in Prague moves - err - let's say its hands move in the same direction that a person who knows about these things would turn a wrench in order to loosen most, but not all, bolts or nuts on a Land-Rover, said direction also often being referred to as counter-clockwise, which would, however, be clockwise in the Jewish town in Prague. So maybe it is safer to stick with: Righty - tighty, Lefty - loosy. >To those of you who couldn't care less, I apologize. David M. Schwarz, >dschwarz@pipeline.com Being interested in these things means never having to say you are sorry ;>) Regards Peter Hirsch Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:49:37 +0100 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Re: LHD/RHD with L-R content Dear all, over the weekend my wife and I spent some time researching this problem a little more, and we came up with this interesting result: Everything that has been said so far has been wrong. Originally, people were ambidextrous. There was no such thing as being right- handed or left-handed. One proof: The Hebrew and the Arabic alphabet are more suitable for southpaws, while the Greek and Roman alphabets are better for right-handed people; since all these peoples lived close together around the Mediterranean, there could not have been any difference in handedness, just a difference in the choice that was made. The Chinese avoided any discrimination by writing from the top down. There being little traffic, there was also no traffic rules. However, as civilisation increased, so did trade, and as trade increased, so did traffic. Since there were a lot of accidents in the absence of rules, the GATT conference decided to regulate traffic. The subcommittee that was formed to come up with a proposal studied the question for about sixteen years and then recommended that "henceforth all traffic should move on the right side of the road", arguing that there could be no doubt that the right side was the right side, right? The conference was not able to follow the recommendation, however, since the Picts vetoed it and threatened to block any further decision if driving on the left was not adopted universally (they had just invested heavily in a lot of traffic roundabouts and did not want to change all the markings on the ground - you can still see the remains of one of these roundabouts in Stonehenge). So left it was from then on. The new traffic rules put a lot of evolutionary pressure on people, since now men who were good with their right hand could defend themselves better with their clubs or swords or battleaxes. Right-handed men thus had a higher survival rate and also became heroes, both of which improved their chances of passing on their genes. (Charles Darwin was actually planning to include this fact in The Origin of Species, but his publisher pointed out that the space could be better used for pictures, since pictures sold books.) Anyway, you can see that it was not the desire to be able to use the right arm effectively that forced traffic to the left-hand side, but that the GATT rules came first and right-handedness came later. As you all know, GATT went through a crisis in the 18th century, and the French introduced their own rules under the motto Dieu et mon Droit (which can be translated as My Divine Privilege to Drive on the Right). As usual, some countries followed the new standard, some followed the old standard and some changed sides every few decades. Land-Rover originally tried to avoid all controversy by building two prototypes with centre steering that were actually meant to drive in the middle of the road; after a rather embarrassing, though unforeseen, accident in the course of the first road trials, which resulted in the destruction of both prototypes, the idea was dropped. The whole affair was hushed up, which explains why this is probably the first time you heard about there being *two* centre-steer prototypes. If there are any more questions, please let me know. Good Land-Rovering! Peter Hirsch Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:51:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Starter replacement? Take your starter to a local generator or small motor shop. They will rebuild it for about $100. Alex Maiolo 69 IIA 89 Rangie ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:59:14 -0500 Subject: SII engine parts (was Collector/historical value) > Just my 2 cents worth, but a series II engine is almost impossible to get > parts for now so why not go ahead and modify it just to keep it on the > road. You can always put a IIA engine in later if you want something a > bit more stock as it were. CORRECTION for SII 2.25 petol engines: Most parts are the same as or replaceable by SIIA/SIII parts. Some of the unique SII engine are more difficult to find (main & rod bearings excepted which are becoming very difficult to find). You do need a parts book or two, do some searching and ocassionally be prepared to order from the UK. The significant unique SII parts are: crank, rods, main and rod bearings (getting very scarce) front cover (available but when does it need replacing?) rocker arm shafts (RN has in catalog for less than SIIA/III parts) exhaust manifold and front pipe (SIIA/III parts are direct bolt on) thermostat and housing (still available from PA Blanchard, or update with thermostat and housing from SIIA/SIII) waterpump (available but expensive, or rebuild with same internal parts as SIIA/SIII) block casting (replace with what you can find/afford if cracked, etc) head casting (replace if cracked, etc.) Otherwise the SII petrol engines are the same as early SIIA engines, and no more difficult to find than early SIIA parts. If anyone is searching for SII parts I'll be glad to swap information, and possibly parts if I have extras. There is absolutely no need to replace a SII petrol engine "just to keep it on the road" unless the engine is otherwise dead. This is not justification for a conversion. If ready parts availability is always a must, I suggest a SIII, which is the only Series LR appears to be somewhat committed to supporting. Regards, David Cockey '60 SII PU '60 SII SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:10:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Collector/Historical Value Peter tells a sad tale of a SI: > The car (and its history) makes your heart bleed. Imagine a relatively rare > and desirable vehicle, with original good engine and gearbox, little > superficial rust on chassis, good springs, very little play in the steering, > the original Diesel decal on the grill. The current owner got it without any > changes..... Our SII Pickup was purchased from the second owner, who was the son of original dealer. Again he got it in complete, original condition with the original hardtop and then started tinkering. Not nearly as bad as Peter describes but still annoying. He sold the hardtop and bolted on a pickup cab. Okay, but then mounted two lights from RN on the roof crooked. Completely repainted with NH National Guard olive drab. Various accessories mounted, usually crooked and frequently with holes through trim. Actually not that bad but annoying to the third owner. Enough complaining, we bought it that way and it just increases the challenge to set it right. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu> Subject: Re: Mounting a horse in ancient Greece Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:25:00 -0700 (MST) : Now let's see - L-R content? Elementary: The Greek horses apparently were : designed with their drivers seat on the right, while later horses had them : on the left. No center-steering models like the first L-R prototype... Unlike LR which is responsible for modern civilisation as we know it, a certain Greek horse was known for wiping out a whole civilisation. T. F. Mills tomills@du.edu University of Denver Library http://www.du.edu/~tomills Denver CO 80208 USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:02:07 -0800 From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Subject: EURO-bo**ocks Someone started a thread a few weeks ago about som European proposal, strongly lobbied by German car manufacturers, to ban replacement parts and fit use-once bolts whose heads break off to prevent replacement. Can anyone remember where this story started? Does anyone have access/address/copy of relevant euro-proposal? A friend of mine, also a tv-producer, produces a danish motor vehicle magazine programme and he is interested in this story - can anyone help? -- adrian redmond --------------------------------------------------- CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) tel: +45 86 57 22 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk 1: Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up 2: Series III 1979 88" D Hard top (Icelander) --------------------------------------------------- "Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!" --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Howton <andrew_howton@bc.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: winch question At 09:51 AM 11/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >Could someone who has an electric winch on a series Rover tell me what they >needed to do to their electrical system to capacitate for it? Thanks. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] >Belfast, Maine >`69 SWB HT I'm running a warn 9000 on the stock system in my 1982 109 with the addition of a 900 CCA batt. I have not had any problems but an up graded alt and wiring wouldn't be bad ideas. Andrew Howton Sparwood, B.C. (604) 425-0598 ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: EvanD103@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:36:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Broken Axles I enjoyed this weekend's Solaros (Southern Land Rover Society) trail ride but would have enjoyed it more if my '73 Series III had four wheel drive for the entire ride. It is somewhat embarrasing to be used for recovery practice for much of the afternoon. I suppose it is a feature of an ARB locking rear diff that after one breaks an axle one immediately snaps the other as all the torque is transfered to it. The end result - two rear axles broken just inward of the flanges, rear wheel bearings trashed by grinding up the debris. The good news - non of the debris seems to have made it to the diff. What's also somewhat frustrating is that these were "new" axles, purchased about 3000 miles ago from AEW Paddock. I still have the axles that came with the truck, which I had replaced as a precaution. I guess I'll put them back in now. I wonder though if there is a source for stronger axles for this truck. I realize they are the driveline "fuse" and designed to "blow", but I'd rather they didn't so quickly and easily! Cheers, erik Erik van Dyck Stone Mountain, Georgia 1973 Ser. III ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:02:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Broken Axles Erik has been testing axle shafts: > What's also somewhat frustrating is that these were "new" axles, purchased > about 3000 miles ago from AEW Paddock. I still have the axles that came > with > the truck, which I had replaced as a precaution. I guess I'll put them back > in now. I wonder though if there is a source for stronger axles for this > truck. Any idea if the AEW Paddock axles were LR or aftermarket? British Northwest has listed "Toughened Genuine Rover" axles in the past. Presumably some sort of heat treatment and/or shot peenning. David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com> Subject: RE: LRMW Open House Report Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:46:49 -0500 Bob: Thanks for the report. I couldn't have said it better, so I won't!! BTW, as far as MFR costs to build a vehicle, ready for this?? The = Defender is BY FAR the MOST EXPENSIVE vehicle for LR to build. This = (unfortunately) is one of the reasons LR has wanted to kill it off for = years. Market pressure hasn't allowed it - but now Federal pressure is. Remember, the Defender (and Series ancestors) were/are almost entirely = HAND-ASSEMBLED. No subsystems of the D90 are or lend themselves to = automated assembly. Therefore (my numbers are a little rusty here) the = average Defender requires almost 70 man-hours of labor to assemble, a = Disco in the high forties, and the most efficient (currently) model to = build is the new style Range Rover - which has a high content of = automated assembly!! Great to see you guys!! Cheers Jim ---------- From: Robert A. Virzi[SMTP:rvirzi@gte.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 1996 9:09 AM Subject: LRMW Open House Report I attended last night's LR MetroWest (Boston) open house. The dealer invited a bunch of people in to have some wine and food (I think this is what they call the Land Rover Experience) and drool over the new models. The BSROA was solidly represented, and we may have drummed up a few new members. Most notable to me regarding attendees was, unlike last year's event, jeans outnumbered suits 3:1. I heard lots of snippets of conversation about offroading, and not a single mention of = malls/shopping carts/Aspen. I hope this was not lost on the dealership management. Perhaps next year a keg of Guiness will be served? The clear and away highlight of the night was the coming out of Jim = Pappas' Pink Panther! Stole the show from all the new rangies and what-not. = This beast is absolutely amazing. If I get this right, it is built on a IIa = 109 chassis, but it looks HUGE! Dual gun mounts (30mm?). Smoke grenade launchers front and rear. 180 gallon fuel capacity. Wow! One fillup = sets you back $250 (do you get a volume discount?) but lets you drive from Boston to Chicago non-stop. Got tailgater problems? A quick burst from the rear facing 30mm should back'em off. Jim sez the vehicle will be on some sort of display at the dealer on a permanent basis. Kind of = mingling with the D90s and rangies in the used car section. Pretty radical. I = can hardly wait for my next service visit (scheduled or not). Someone asked about the D90 SW. They had at least one white one in the showroom. Automatic, no-air, 4 jump seats in rear, etc. I think list = was around US$34k. They also had a few used D90 around, and I spoke to at least 2 people considering trading in (or selling) their '94 and '95 = sticks for the auto. Others have reported on the upgraded Disco. Wood trim, electric seats, garage door opener, inside - new (ugly) wheels, outside. About the same price as the d90 when comparably equipped. Sure looks more expensive to build, even though it probably isn't. Sorry for rambling on. It was a fun evening and sure got me thinking = about the next rover I want! -Bob rvirzi@gte.com Think Globally. =3D=3D=3D +1(617)466-2881 =3D=3D=3D Act Locally! ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Alec Diamond" <alec@telmar.co.za> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:52:27 +0200 Subject: Fitting spots to a 110 Defender Hi All A question for those auto-electricians. I have fitted 4 spot lights to my 110 by taking a 2 mm electric wire through an inline fuse to a relay and then up to the spots where the wire has been split to feed each spot. The spot currently have 55 watt bulbs but I am going to be uping this to 100 watt bulbs. 1) What size fuse should I be using. 2) how do I measure the ampage. If I have a multi meter does one bridge the connection and measure the current that flows? The relay that I have put in has a 30 amp rating. The spot burned for about 10 minutes while I was aligning them then went dead. Upon investigation I found that the plastic housing around the one side of the connector of the inline fuse holder has melted sightly and covered the the connector effectively insulating the fuse from the connector on the one side. Is the inline fuse not of the correct rating or does there seem to be some other problem? Regards from Sunny South Africa Alec =================================================================================== #======---# Alec Diamond (If its worth doing its worth |____|__|__\___ alec@telmar.co.za SCUBA diving for) || _ \ | |_ |} Tel +27 11 883 1337 "-(_)"""""""(_)" Sunny South Africa ----^^^^^---^^^^---^^^^-^-^--^--^--^^----------------------------------------\\\\\\ 200 TDI Defender ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: Re: UK LH/RH Travel... Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 8:54:35 GMT > Have any of you considered the origin of "clockwise?" I believe it relates > back to Sundials in the Northern Hemisphere. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] > the sun and the rotation of the earth, I believe designed the hands to move > in the direction all were familiar with, and associated with, the > advancement of time. And thus was born the convention of clock hand Would make sense. > rotation fairly uniformly followed. Does anyone know of a clock which runs > backwards. There are times I wish I could make it so, but that's another > story. Yes, I've often fancied having one. Most electric mechanisms you can buy, don't have axles on the back (ie. you could just mount the mechanism backwards). I have seen backward ones though. I guess Novelty Shops sell them. So why do screws have a clockwise thread, then? [vaguely LRO-content!] Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:32:52 GMT From: "T. Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: Re: front differential nut > And here is where I'm stuck - I can't unscrew the nut that is on >the way to removing the connecting rotating plate to access the oil [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >retainer to changed it. I've taken the little safety clip that goes into >the perfuration in the nut and screw. The best way to proceed is to make a tool to hold the pinion flange; i.e. the bit the propellor shaft universal joint bolts to. This is just a flat bar with two holes drilled at one end so that you can temporarily bolt it to the flange, and use it as a lever to brace against the force of you trying to undo the pinion nut. With the tool in place, all your energies will go into turning the nut, rather than taking up all the backlash in the diff and rolling the Rover around. You may need to remove some metal between the holes, so that you can still get a socket onto the pinion nut. Crap ascii art follows: ___________________________ | o /----\ o____________________| There is a pukka Land Rover tool for the job, but I imagine it's expensive to buy, unless you could borrow one from a garage. The tool will fit all the flanges in your drive train, so you can use it to change gearbox output shaft seals as well as the front and rear diff seals. Tom ________________________________________________________________________ Thomas D.I. Stevenson gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk SNL Mussel Project Tel: 01475 530581 University Marine Biological Station, Millport Fax: 01475 530601 Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland KA28 OEG http://www.gla.ac.uk/Acad/Marine ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers) Subject: RE: Fitting spots to a 110 Defender Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:19:39 +-100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alec Diamond[SMTP:alec@telmar.co.za] wrote: I have fitted 4 spot lights to my 110 by taking a 2 mm electric wire through an inline fuse to a relay and then up to the spots where the wire has been split to feed each spot. The spot currently have 55 watt bulbs but I am going to be uping this to 100 watt bulbs. 1) What size fuse should I be using. If You are useing 12V (most common), calculate like this: W/V=A; 55/12= 4,58 ~5A ; 100/12= 8,33~ 9A This is for each bulp. You connected 4, that gives as minimum 20A if You use 55W. I would sugest, You split the installation, use 2 relays, in a way, so that You can switch on the 2 outer or the 2 inner lamps independant. If You want to use inline fuses, use 1 for each lamp. the small plastic caps for inline-fuses donot like large ammounts of power. It also makes error tracing easyer, because You only have one wire and lamp to concerne about when a fuse blows.For wires, count together all the current that can flow, fuse to lamp 8 or 12A, from relay to fuse 2 times8or12A = 16 or 24A Use following size: 6 A 1,0 sqr mm 10 A 1,5 sqr mm 15 A 2,5 sqr mm 25 A 4,0 sqr mm If You let 20A flow through a 2mm wire, it probably melted the insulation and made a shortcut to ground. +ve---- relay for 1. set ------Fuse 8or12A ---lamp1 | | | |-Fuse 8or12A ---lamp2 | | |- relay for 2. set ------Fuse 8or12A ---lamp3 | |-Fuse 8or12A ---lamp4 2) how do I measure the ampage. from fuse ------------Ampermeter----------------lamp--------ground If I have a multi meter does one bridge the connection and measure the current that flows? Yes, You have to breake the connection, and put the meter in between. Calcurate the currect first, so that You know how much You can expect. If not, You might burn Your multimeter because most of them only can take 10A. Happy Rovering Bent Boehlers http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3542 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBD553.283E6440 ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961118 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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