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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 07:37:47 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: backfiring

Andy admits...

when easing off above 50mph it sounds like a gunshot.

then he swears...

>>>nothing is ejected from my exhaust

then he reveals the truth...

>>>It is sending my nuts :-)

Am I the only one that sees the humor here?

BTW, I think you may have a small to medium exhaust leak. If there's no apparent
holes then check the juction from lead pipe to manifold.

Cheers

Dave

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:42:35 -0100
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: On wearing 90 weight

Rob MacCormick's reference to "wearing" ninety weight struck home. You
could always use an eye dropper and drip the oil into the boxes. However, a
pump is nicer. Several brands of oil are now supplied with pump bottles
that work okay. However, I just sprang (sprung? springed? sproing?) for a
pump. This is a petroleum products transfer pump, plunger type, with two
long cler plastic hoses. Two people should do the job, but one can. The
"perpetrator" gets under the car and holds the hose in the fill hole under
the Land Rover. The "pumper" then sticks the intake hose into the oil jug
and begins pumping. My pump will move 5 fluid ounces per stroke, which
means that I have excellent control.

I got my pump from Forestry Suppliers, a mail order house, for just under
$25. Would not crawl under car without it.

Regards,

Ned Heite

P O Box 53
Camden, Delaware 19934 USA

_______
|___|__\_==    Heite Consulting
| _ |  | --]   archaeologists and Historians
=(O)-----(O)=  "Baby" short wheelbase Land Rover IIA 1969, 2.25 liter petrol
""""""""""""""""

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 07:46:38 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Dieseling

A week ago my caurberator began leaking air when the engine was idling.
 Increasing the RPMs slowed down the leak but there is still a hissing sound.
 The engine idles very rough and often dies without keeping the RPMs up.
 When I shut it off it diesels for about 30 seconds and then blasts out vapor
from the air filter.  Can anyone give me some advice?

I've seen this exact thing on a Landie I was going to purchase. According to the
mechanic that looked at it:
The vaccuum leak at the carb is making the mixture rich (?) and therefore lots 
of unburnt fuel in the combustion chamber. this is making your engine deisel and
virtually run backwards when you shut it off which is why there is exhaust 
coming from the air cleaner. You can find the leak by spraying something like 
carb cleaner around the base of the carb and manifold gasket. When the liquid 
(temporarily) seals the leak you will hear an increase in RPM's. This is 
assuming you can get it to idle long enough to perform the test. If the leak is 
around the throttle  shaft of the carb then I believe its time for a new one 
unless you have a good friend with a machine shop and not much to do.

Dave

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From: Peter Reynolds <Peter_Reynolds@mktplace.com>
Date: 13 Aug 96  7:47:37 
Subject: hellas

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:03:48 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Transmission Trouble

One month ago I downshifted coming up a hill into third.  It went into gear
smoothly but the gearshift began rattling.  I stopped at the top of the hill
and found that it had an incredible amount of play when it was in gear and
neutral and it rattled around the gearbox.  It seems to drive all right but
often it will not go into third.  Can anyone give some advice?    

Get a good magnet.
Remove the gearshift lever
Check the o-ring on the bottom "ball" of the gearshift lever. If there is none 
or if it is extremely worn then replace it and go no further. If it's ok, then 
it's something else...
Pop the top cover off the gearbox. 
Retrieve the detent balls from inside the gearbox using your new magnet :-)
Check to see that all the shift forks are tight on their shafts.Check the detent
balls for wear and the detent springs to make sure they are not bent or 
otherwise deformed. 
 Remove the forks and have a look at the third gear and synchro. There are 3 
springs on the 3/4 syncro clutch. Make sure they are all there. Remove the rear 
PTO cover and top inspection palte. Make sure the mainshaft nut is tight, and 
that there is little end play in the shaft.
 Aside from this i don't think there's alot you can check w/o dismantling the 
box. if you do decide to fix something that doesn't invlove removing the box, do
yourself a favor and don't bolt the floor in until you're satisfied with the 
work. It's enough trouble toget the top cover off, never mind the floors and 
tunnel cover.

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:11:56 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: 90 weight transport

Mike writes...

>>>>I have a small hand-operated pump that fits a 1 qt plastic oil bottle.
...snip.....
 Does the
trick for the hubs, swivel-balls, overdrive and tranny. Found mine at a
local Central Tractor Farm and Family Center for a few dollars. Probably
available at other places as well.

Mere child's toy.:-)
Sorry Mike...remember the Super 8 Motel?...
 I've seen this so called "wonder pump". If you don't mind spending half an hour
flailing wildly under your vehicle just to fill the gearbox, then it's great. Go
for the gallon size model. It's not perfect but it sure beats 1oz. per pump...

Cheers

Dave "It worked great in a pinch though..." B.

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:17:28 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[5]: The Land Rover gearbox jobs

John expounds...

>>>But a stout bar...snip..., a length of rope, and a willing 
friend (or fiend, if you prefer) make the task almost easy.
 

OOH! Did somebody say "Stout" and "Bar" in the same sentence??

This is too much fun. Don't know about the rope and the "willing" friend though.
That belongs on another list...

Dave "A Guinness a day" B.

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From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:45:48 +0000
Subject: Attention, Oily Wadders

I have just walked past a chemists with a display of bright yellow 
aftershave bottles called ---- 'Deisel'

[Honest]

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:12:13 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Attention, Oily Wadders

>I have just walked past a chemists with a display of bright yellow
>aftershave bottles called ---- 'Deisel'
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>aftershave bottles called ---- 'Deisel'
>[Honest]
Does it burn OK? Enquiring minds.....

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:13:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Pertalion <ap12536@xx.acs.appstate.edu>
Subject: RE: Land Rover music.

> >Subject: Music suited to Landrovers
> 	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)]
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> To accompanying driving through desserts or open areas of tundra , I sugest
> The Doors : Tell me the road to the nearest Whisky bar. 

	When we're driving off road our favorite cd now is Mickey Hart's 
Planet Drum.  Great music and usually deeply disturbing to anyone we meet 
who's driving a domestic 4x4.  We keep the cd player/boom box in a cargo 
net behind our heads.  (Far enough away so it won't whack us one when it 
starts swinging! Ouch!)

John Pertalion	
AP12536@XX.ACS.APPSTATE.EDU
Boone, North Carolina, USA

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:13:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Gasoline Additives

On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Irv Berteig wrote:

> Recently joined the List and have a question that I thought would be covered
> in the FAQ.  I have a '67 IIA 2.6L -- which means that exhaust valves have
> shortened lives now that leaded gas is no more.
>.
	Depends where you live.  Canada adds MMT to gasoline to replace lead.
	Thus no problem.  When lead was taken out of gasoline years ago here
	(before the USA) the general rule of thimb was to run the vehicle
	until recession started to get bad, then put in hardened seats.

	BTW, nothing on this in the Gasoline FAQ reachable via the Roverweb
	main page?

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:20:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Parts wanted

On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Kelvin Crezee wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get an old lug wrench that fits D90 lug nuts?  
>.
	Are not the lugnuts the same as the Disco, which are the same as
	found on the Series III?  Personally, I much prefer a socket and 
	a long breaker bar.  

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: RE: Land Rover music.
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 15:20:29 BST

> > >Subject: Music suited to Landrovers
> > 	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)]
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> net behind our heads.  (Far enough away so it won't whack us one when it 
> starts swinging! Ouch!)

Well, with a mil. vehicle (still in NATO colours), a whole host
of military marches come to mind - "Great Escape" for tootling (Lightwight),
whilst something like "Imperial March" (Empire Strikes Back) for the
more menacing Landies (109 FFRs and 101s)!   :-)
(Pink Panthers would *have* to have "Lawrence of Arabia" - although this
would be a tad corny)

I did make up a tape of "Land Rover" music - but there's a predominance for
loud music. No idea why...

Richard  (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: "Lee Zeltzer (ISD)" <lzeltzer@isdnet.com>
Subject: RE: Parts wanted
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:19:34 -0700

Kevin, it appears all Landrover lug wrenchs are designed as a single use =
item, unless flexability is a virtue in the tool. After some thought and =
suggestions from this list I bought a 3/8" breaker bar and socket at =
home depot for less than a new lug wrench. It actually works and doesn't =
have the undocumented Landrover lug wrench flexability feature. I will =
need to check out the socket size and repost.

----------
From: 	Kelvin Crezee[SMTP:kelvinc@terrestrial.com]
Sent: 	Monday, August 12, 1996 10:03 PM
Subject: 	Parts wanted

I had my lug wrench and hand crant shaft to my D90 truck jack removed =
and
now need to replace them.  The local dealership asks 40 dollars for the =
lug
wrench and 70 dollars for the hand crank!  British Pacific doesn't carry
either.  Anyone know where I can get an old lug wrench that fits D90 lug =
nuts? 

Anyone know of custom made attatchments for D90's to hold Jerry Cans, =
High
Lift Jack (where do you get the attatchments for the jack so it can be =
used
on D90s). 
Kelvin Crezee                  ______ 
                               [__[__\=3D=3D
kelvinc@terrestrial.com        [________]
                        _____.__(O)_.(O)___

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:19:38 +0100
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Gasoline Additives

Irv Berteig asks: "now that leaded gas is no more.......are additives worth 
pursuing?"

Another way round the problem is to bring the engine up to date. My local engine 
shop (see below) will fit hardened valve seats to the cylinder head exhaust ports, 
skim the head and check the guides for about 100 pounds (150 dollars). It would 
not take long to spend this amount on additives, so why not get yourself an 
unleaded head?

I have been spending rather too long at this shop during the past week. Having had 
the terrible experience of number three big end falling apart, leading to the 
piston hitting the head and slightly bending the con rod, I removed the engine and 
stripped it down. It is a 2.5 litre 5 bearing petrol (removed from a 110 and 
fitted to my 88" SIII). These engines are expensive to buy as recon units, so I 
took the bits to the engine shop (for UK readers, this is Owslebury Crankshaft 
Service in Winchester). They found that the no 3 bearing could just be reground by 
40 thou (the maximum it can take), and so reground all to match, together with 
less from the mains. They also straightened the crankshaft and stress relieved it 
(apparently it is normal for shafts to go out of true). They straightened the con 
rod, cleaned all the rods and pistons, supplied a full set of gaskets and shaft 
seals for the block plus a full head overhaul gasket set, plus new bearing shells.

The total bill, including tax, was 188 pounds (290 dollars), which I think is very 
reasonable.

I just have the minor task of putting it all back together again and stuffing it 
back in the front of the Landy. All you heroes who can lift a gearbox in and out 
without a crane might want to come round and save me the expense of hiring the 
crane again!!!!

I now resolve to use good engine oil, change the filter regularly and generally 
treat the old girl with the respect due her, so that I do not have to do it all 
again.

-- 
David Olley
...............................................................
New Concept
PO Box 61, Winchester, SO23 0HA, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
...............................................................

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:21:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Blair Gillespie <Gillespie@thegrid.net>
Subject: RE: Land Rover music.

        I am kind of disappointed that nobody has come up with the universal
music that is fit for leaf sprung Rovers(90 's also) My first thought was LOUD.
                        Rover On,
                                Blair
Blair Gillespie
San Luis Obispo Ca. USA
1988 Range Rover
1973 S III 88
1967 FLH HD

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:21:00 CDT

I will be attending the Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally on October 4-6th   
and will be driving down the morning of the 4th (Friday.)  I'm departing   
from the Philadelphia area and will be driving through Baltimore and D.C.   
on my way south.  If anybody would like to meet and caravan down to   
Virginia, please let me know. (The wife is letting me go to this one. :>)

Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767
dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:37:42 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Lug wrench (spanner)

>Kevin, it appears all Landrover lug wrenchs are designed as a single use =
>item, unless flexability is a virtue in the tool. After some thought and =
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>have the undocumented Landrover lug wrench flexability feature. I will =
>need to check out the socket size and repost.

If it's the same as Series III, it's 1-1/16" socket.  If you are going out
and buying a breaker bar and socket just for this I would advise that you
not settle for a 3/8" drive!  I use a 1/2" drive and twice, over the years,
found it inadequate for the task when I was trying to remove the lug nuts
after a visit to a tyre dealer.  Thanks to the hefty size of these nuts, the
wankers at the tyre shops can really crank them on!  I had to borrow a 3/4"
drive set from work to break them loose and had to add a cheater bar at that!

If you don't have other need for these tools and are just looking for a
sturdy lug wrench, you can go to a NAPA auto parts store and get a four-way
(cross) lug wrench that will not only fit the 1-1/16" Series III (& late
IIA) type but also the common 15/16" ones on the Series I, II, & early IIA,
and even the rare 1" ones on some middling IIAs.  

This four-way lug wrench has another use which is to pair with your spare
tyre to bury in the ground as a winching anchor.  You place the tyre in the
ground at an angle so that the upper part is leaning away from the direction
of pull a suitable amount, with the four-way wrench centered behind the
wheel, and the winch cable fastened to the center of the cross of the wrench
(I recommend using a shackle rather than a hook for this attachment).

YMMV,

Granny

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:52:32 -0700
From: John Karlsson <karlsson@edgenet.net>
Subject: Re: 90 weight transport

Rob MacCormick wrote:
> Riding the (learning) curve......Changed the OD oil on Thurs (first oil
> change for this box as it is about 400 miles from new) .....Checked all the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
> him, as I was anticipating something like ....Is on fire, Is dangling in
> thin air, or leaking like a stuck pig.....

The best solution I have found is a garden sprayer.  They come in various 
capacities (I think my new one is two gallons.  The one I used prior to 
my LR's "chrysalis stage" was a little tired when I tried to use it.[last 
used in 1977?])  I just take the spray nozzle off, pressurize the 
container, and pull the trigger.  But don't forget to watch for overflow!

John Karlsson
Hope Valley, RI

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From: "fisk.spencer" <fisk@gene.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:18:08 -0800
Subject: Desperately seeking tailgate

Hello All,
  After purchasing and working on my "new" '65 109 3dr and finally getting
it running fairly well, I decided to remove the top last night, and now
need a tailgate.  Does anyone out there have a spare they are willing to
sell or trade for?  I live just south of San Francisco CA.

Thanks!

  Spencer Fisk
  1965 109 3dr IIA "Pebbles"
  1958 88 For Sale
-- 
R. Spencer Fisk
Research Associate                                  Ph: (415) 225-5306
Genentech Recovery Sciences                        FAX: (415) 225-4049
E-Mail:  Fisk@gene.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:33:36 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Electrical burn: probable answer

Hi all,

Some follow-up.  Tested the generator.  0 volts at moderate rpm.  Ergo the
generator is bad.  Thinking back, late last week I heard an odd whirring
noise at the front of the engine, which reminded me of dry bearings but
couldn't figure out where it was coming from.  I didn't hear it all
the time and so I figured I'd just wait to see where it was coming from.

While leisurely perusing the Haynes manual, I came across a procedure called
"dynamo--routine maintenance" which referred to adding drops of 30wt SAE oil
to the little nipple thing at the back of the generator once every 5K miles.
The front bearings are packed and sealed in grease and require no maintenance.

I suppose oil was added to the generator before it left Solihull but that
may have been the last time.  Live and learn.
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:44:10 -0400
From: East Coast ROver <ecrover@midcoast.com>

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:44:32 -0400
From: East Coast ROver <ecrover@midcoast.com>

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:26:27 -0400
From: East Coast ROver <ecrover@midcoast.com>

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:27:38 -0400
From: East Coast ROver <ecrover@midcoast.com>

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:26:51 -0400
From: East Coast ROver <ecrover@midcoast.com>

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:27:21 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: Re: ARB Airlockers

You wrote...

>I am planning on installing ARB Airlockers on my '95 D90 and would like to
>know if anyone has done this themself--any advice.  If you had them
>installed what was the cost?  I was told it takes 10 hours labor and here in
>Phoenix the dealer charges $1300 (dollars).

        The time is not far off, but the dealer probably costs a bit per
hour, but you'll have someone to yell at if they go wrong. Your call. If
you have the skills and tools to rebuild diffs. You can install a ARB
without any problems.
>There are also different gear ratios available--any advice?
>know if anyone has done this themself--any advice.  If you had them

        Lots of gear ratios are available for the D90, some are costly and
imported, others are avail. almost anywhere. You can install 4.7's easliy,
but that gain in off road crawl, will change your top end speed and rpm.
Everything is a trade off. The stock 3.54 is a good all around set up for
dual duty use.

        Shop around for your ARB's, some places offer great savings on
exactly the same units. We sell them, as do others.

        See ya!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:31:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: For those wanting to try and date your Series IIA

     Breakdown of suffix letters to IIA serial numbers

     http://www1.ridgecrest.ca.us/OVLR/FAQ.4.Chassis_Numbers.suffix.IIA.html

     Addresses to write to for additional build information etc. on your 
     vehicle can be found at:	

     http://www1.ridgecrest.ca.us/OVLR/FAQ.4.Chassis.tracing.html

     While we are at it, the NAS Defender page has been rewritten to make
     reading it easier:

     http://www1.ridgecrest.ca.us/OVLR/FAQ.4.NAS_Defender_VINs.html

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:03:07 -0600 (MDT)
From: Andrew Howton <ahowton@agt.net>
Subject: Re: what'd ya call a bunch of LR's..AND possible Rover Trip

I'm not sure that this has not been sugested yet but it fits most of the
Rovers that I've ever owned.

        An Exon of Rovers (spelling of exon?)

Also is there anyone interested in trying to get some rovers over the great
devide between Alberta and BC some were between Waterton National Park and
Banff National Park?  There were some routes untill the one in a 3000 year
flood last year but it is a little more challenging now.  I am based in
Sparwood (on highway 3 15min from BC Alta boarder) untill the end of Dec.

Andrew Howton
109 2door

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 15:39:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Davis <daviscar@cris.com>
Subject: British Car show, Sept. 8, 

The tenth British Car Union Festival will be held at Oakton Community College,
Des Plaines, Illinois, 9-4, on September 8, 1996.
 Past year's events have brought out close to 700 British only
vehicles

 including 20-25 Land-Rovers, mostly Series type. 
        You SEE WE ARE OUT NUMBERED most of the 700 will be Triumphs
        So lets have a big LR turn out this year. I can only do so much
        I mean, I am even importing a second Land Rover From NY to try and
get the            numbers up.
        How many of this list are going to be there?
        How will list members know one another? (no t-shirts yet.)

        

Bruce
67 SIIA 88 Patches
1959 109 SW  (no name yet)
Daviscar@concentric.net

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Date: 13 Aug 96 16:09:47 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Subject: Music suited to Landrovers

I always found the theme song 'Caravans' from the film "Caravans" very
fitting for Land Rovers. In fact, the entire sound track is very suitable
(by Mike Batt). The film itself doesn't feature any Land Rovers, though;
just camels (real ones), mules, Antony Quinn...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 13 Aug 96 15:59:33 EDT
From: "Peter J. Gronous" <100617.1214@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Tee shirt design

Sorry folks, I blew it. Had you all searching for my design idea and gave you
the wrong address. Should be

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gronous/teeshirt

No www.
The home page has a photo of my almost completed restoration, (ran out of cash
and need new interior- some fool stood on the roof lining whilst it was out!)

Regards
Peter Gronous
Surrey, England

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:26:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: 'nother screensaver...

	Tired of the LRNA attempt?

	How about:

	http://www.itl.net/Guinness/GUINNESS.EXE 

	:-)

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Date: 13 Aug 96 17:27:15 EDT
From: Richard Brownlee <101360.3273@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: 90wt Transport

Hi all.

Having loads of empty fire extinguishers lying around, I found that these were
ideal for filling up the assorted Rover orifices with 90wt.

Get hold of an old stored pressure extinguisher (the type with a pressure guage
on it and a schraeder valve for filling with compressed air). It needs to have
controllable discharge - ie one that stops when you stop squeezing the handle.
Different sizes are available - extinguishers that hold about 13 pints of liquid
or about 14lbs of dry powder are a useful size as you can stand then up under
the Rover.

Ensure that it is totally empty  - even if partially empty discharge it before
opening -and unscrew the head.  When unscrewing the head, any residual pressure
will escape after a few turns.  Wait at this point for all pressure to release
before proceeding. Clean it out thoroughly and check internally that you are not
filling something that is rusty inside. Fill 3/4 full with 90wt or ATF or
whatever is required, and pump up with compressed air.  Most extinguishers in
the UK are normally pumped up to 100-150psi but for this use you only need about
40-50psi.

Then its just a question of lying under the vehicle, pointing the hose into the
required orifice and squeezing the handle to discharge your desired lubricant.
Fnarr fnarr.

It would be a good move to paint the extinguisher a non-extinguisher colour and
label it clearly - otherwise you could end up adding fuel to flames literally.

This method is based on UK extinguishers which use the above operating
mechanism.  I believe that some US extinguishers use the same principle
(Amerex?). 

Regards to all

Richard

Surrey UK
77 Range Rover

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Subject: Salsbury Airlockers??
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 14:43:51 -0800
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@apple.com>

Are lockers available for Salsbury diffs???

TeriAnn Wakeman 
CPU Compatability Evangelist
Apple Computer, Inc.

twakeman@apple.com     "celebrating 10 years connected to the internet"

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 15:15:57 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Salsbury Airlockers??

TeriAnn asked:

>Are lockers available for Salsbury diffs???

Close.  They are available for the Salisbury diffs :^)

Granny

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From: Leland J Roys <roys@hpkel13.cup.hp.com>
Subject: Def-90 Loves to leak
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 16:11:41 PDT

Hi,

Recently I took my Def-90 into the shop for a leaking transfer case, they
put a new gasket on the case. Well, its leaking again, from the upper part
of the transfer case, right through the new gasket.

I was wondering if other Def-90 owners have had problems with leaking 
transfer cases.

Leland Roys
1994 Defender-90
roys@cup.hp.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 19:44:19 -0700
From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Windshield, T-Shirts, Stereo, Events

Hi All - I subscribed to 'The Digest' a few weeks ago and look
forward to reading it each day.  This is my first time submitting.
Mine was originally a 1966 Land Rover Series 2A 109" 
Station Wagon. Its nickname is "No Chance".  It is RHD and 
was rebuilt by Warwick 4X4 while I was stationed in England 
with the US Air Force.  I shipped it back when I returned to 
the USA in 1994. 

I need to reseal my windshield to its frame and am interested 
in hearing from others who have done this type of work. My 
questions - should I purchase the genuine sealer, sold my the
meter? Is there something better I should use to seal the 
windshield?  Any tips on doing the job?

On the subject of T-Shirts - Outstanding idea.
Please count me in for 1-XL and 1-L and 1-window decal.

I put an AM/FM/Cassette player in No Chance.  I used a
piece of wood to sit on the trim along the roof.  The 
piece of wood is wide enough (10") to mount an underdash
type housing to hold my radio and long enough (4'6")
to sit on the trim.  I used a router to cut a 1" groove
into the wood so it sits down over the trim.  I mounted a pair
of speakers in the back above the rear corner windows.
I have some soundproofing installed in the front and 
under the hood, ok bonnet, but still need the volume cranked.
Someday I plan on mounting a pair of speakers onto this same
piece of wood to put the sound up front.  I mounted my
stereo in the center and could see where a CB or other 
device could also be mounted up there.  

I live near Baltimore, Maryland and am interested in hearing
about clubs and events in my area. Please post or e-mail
me with any info.  Thanks!

Oh - how about a "Parade of Land Rovers"
 
Mike Tompkins
M&M Stained Glass
http://www.netcom.com/~mmglass/

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From: kirkwood@strider.fm.intel.com (Clayton Kirkwood)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:44:58 -0700
Subject: socket wrench question

I am now seriously contemplating the purchase of TOOLS, and having
looked at Sears and the sets available and the costs, I got to be
wondering: why buy a complete set of regular hand sockets AND a
complete set of air wrench sockets when I can get just a set of air
wrench sockets. Is there a reason not to do this, do they two not
interchange, etc? The Searsdroid said he didn't recommend it
because the air wrench sockets are heavier and I might get tired of
hefting the heavier air sockets. While this may be true, I have to
wonder if it is that big a deal given the $$ savings. It still may
be that getting a complete Sears set of tools and the air tools are
worth it given the times when I may need two sockets. One other
thing, the air sockets are only six point not 12. How big a deal?

What is the best manufacturer of air compressors? I am planning to
go with oiled compressor not the oilless because of the noise. But
the money savings are still appealing. Do I need to always have the
inline air filter on oiled compressors? What is the best size (120v
required but ok with 120/240).

Thanks alot in advance for the answers

-- 
Clayton R. Kirkwood, FM1-58, 916 356-5838

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From: awbaile@ibm.net
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:05:04 -0700
Subject: LAND ROVERS

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Subject: Re: Salsbury Airlockers??
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 17:04:59 -0800
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@apple.com>

>TeriAnn asked:
>>Are lockers available for Salsbury diffs???
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Close.  They are available for the Salisbury diffs :^)
>Granny

The one I purchased at Billing hasn't arrived yet (though I have been 
informed that it should be on the East coast by now), so I do not have to 
know how to spell it yet.  But thanks for the heads up.  I'll try to have 
the spelling down by the time it gets installed in the Green Rover.

Morgan and I had the same type of "unbrakable" rear axles.  So when his 
broke, I decided to swap mine for something a little thicker.  But I had 
to purchase a lot of accesories Like Diff, housing & such) to fit the 
Salisbury axles in the back of my car ;*)

Salisbury  Salisbury  Salisbury  Salisbury...I'm practicing 8*)

TeriAnn Wakeman 
CPU Compatability Evangelist
Apple Computer, Inc.

twakeman@apple.com     "celebrating 10 years connected to the internet"

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 20:22:16 -0400
From: posies@midcoast.com (angela)
Subject: RR on fire! -- Need a replacement

Last Thursday, my sister's Range Rover caught fire. They were returning
from NYC (to Maine), cruising along 495 near Chelmsford, MA. She noticed
the dome light go on, and looked around to see if any doors were open. When
she looked back, she saw smoke coming from the dash. She pulled over, turnd
off the ignition and removed the key, but the engine kept trying to start!
My father got the fire extinguisher, and tried to put out the fire,
however, the extinguisher had little effect, since the fire was deep inside
the the dash. Many people pulled over to help. One in a concrete truck, and
another, an ex-fireman. The fireman took the water hose from the concrete
truck and sprayed the entire inside of the car, extinguishing the fire. 30
min. after the fire was out, the fire dept arrived. The Rover is completly
melted inside, the dash is non-existent, the windshield is cracked from the
heat, the ceiling material is burned to bare metal, the seats are burned,
and the dome light melted so that it is one big clear plastic drip from the
ceiling. Angela (my sister) said all she could do was cry as she saw her
beloved black 1990 RR County burn away.

Now, We need to find a replacement. (Eastern U.S.pref.)

Wanted:
        1990-93 Range Rover County (not Blue)
        A/C, Sunroof, CD, Brush Guard, Light Cages, 90K mi or less, ETC...

Please call Peter or John Doncaster direct at 207-236-4136 or 236-0000
(E-mail not the best way, as I am on vacation and not at my own computer)

Peter Doncaster
'64 IIA 88" SF SW

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 17:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Def-90 Loves to leak

On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Leland J Roys wrote:
> Recently I took my Def-90 into the shop for a leaking transfer case, they
> put a new gasket on the case. Well, its leaking again, from the upper part
> of the transfer case, right through the new gasket.
> I was wondering if other Def-90 owners have had problems with leaking
> transfer cases.

Dear Leland,
My D90 hasn't started leaking, yet - even after switching over to
'synthetic' fluids a month ago at the 30K service.
But, I do have a drip pan on the garage floor waiting for the
inevitable...

Best wishes,
David

'94 NAS D90

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:01:14 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: cross-links

On Thu, 08 Aug 1996, John Karlsson <karlsson@edgenet.net> wrote:

 I know of at least one other marine 
>biologist on the list, but how many of us are there here?

I subscribe to all of the lists and I don't always pay attention to the source 
of a message, so I don't know for this list alone. I'd also be interested to 
know who is out there with similar combined interests. So far more biologists 
than windsurfers (Jan - it's stopped blowing here).

Now, how many others use their LR as an anchor when using a kite to lift a 
camera for radio-controlled aerial photography?
Cheers
Allan
St. Lucia

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:21:14 -0400
From: LRO Book Shop & The LRO Shop <lroshop@idirect.com>
Subject: T-Shirt Update

The next update on the subject from LRO SHOP will be next week.

Any other takers please e-mail us at lroshop@idirect.com

Sending it via the digest is time consuming because of text duplication in
replies, comments, flames etc.

For those in North America who want to call us we can be reached at
1-888-LRO-SHOP.

Any other locations for review of designs?

Who is going to host the voting table with designs for members to cast a
vote for their choice?

Regards

LRO SHOP

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:42:13 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: nuts

On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> wrote:

>> Anyone know where I can get an old lug wrench that fits D90 lug nuts?  
>>.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>	a long breaker bar.  
>To do it right you would need the 1 1/16 socket for your torque wrench anyway, 
to re-torque any work on the wheels. LRs have big lug nuts and untrained garage 
people equate that with a need crank them down. The recommended torque is 
surprisingly low in comparison.
Allan

>> Anyone know where I can get an old lug wrench that fits D90 lug nuts?  

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 19:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: T-Shirt Order

Good, a direct address.  I was wondering how anybody could possibly keep
track of all the strangly worded orders buried in assorted text. 

Order:  2 XL and a medium of whatever turns out to be the final design.

Thanks

Rgds,

Walt          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
              * Walter C. Swain         | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us       *
              * Davis Community Network | 1969 LR Dormobile- "Bertha"   *
              * Davis, California       | 1988 Range Rover- "Lady Jane" *
              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:06:41 -0400
From: Richard Ruffer <rruffer@interserv.com>
Subject: Re: Def-90 Loves to leak

Leland J Roys wrote:
> I was wondering if other Def-90 owners have had problems with leaking
> transfer cases.

I haven't had any problems with a leaking transfer case.  It leaks a little oil, but not 
much.  Maybe mine's still too new (13,500 miles) :^)

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
'94 D90

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 22:19:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: lug nuts

I have owned 8 Land Rovers, and except for one which had the type of nuts 
with only one end tapered, all of the two ended types don't screw in 
enough so that any thread shows out the end.  The safety check in our 
province wants the threads to come to the top of the nuts so if I ever 
sell it to another Manitoban, I have to use shorter nuts or put in longer 
studs.  Is this a problem on all Land Rovers, or is it just that the PO 
has installed double ended nuts when it should have single taped nuts on 
it?  
For the fellow looking for a tail gate, I have an excellent one which was 
repainted when my body was done.  It is the light green shade.  I could 
trade it for a used OD and throw in some cash for example.  My machine is 
complete and show room, so I don't really need much. It is a 69 IIA.  
For those who want to try a neat engine upgrade, I installed the diesel 
crank in mine and it is now bomb proof!    A new carb might be nice.  Dave 
VE4PN 

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:28:31 -0400
From: Richard Ruffer <rruffer@interserv.com>
Subject: Re: CB Radios

Kelvin Crezee wrote:
> I plan to put a CB in my D90 and would like to hear from anyone who has done
> so already.  

I found installing a CB in my D90 pretty quick and easy.  I mounted a fiberglass antenna 
on the driver's side just above the rear side marker light using a side mount.  Only 
used a 4' or 5' antenna so it would still fit in the garage (reception seems fine).  I 
ran the antenna cable up the chasis to the engine compartment and up the fire wall, 
using cable ties every few feet to keep it in place.  I brought it into the passenger 
cabin through an already existing rubber plug that is under the floor mat on the fire 
wall to the left of the fuse box.  I just cut a little hole in the rubber plug, passed 
the cable through, and ran it along the transmission tunnel under the floor mat to the 
front of the cubby box.  I mounted the CB on the front of the cubby above the cup 
holders.  For power, I ran a line under the floor mat along the transmission tunnel to 
the fuse box.  I drew power off of one of the accessory fuses using a clip and connector 
that goes right on the fuse (bought at Radio Shack, I also added a plug on the power 
line so I could easily disconnect the CB and lock it up or take it with me. With the CB 
out, however, I found the shiney mounting bracket would catch my eye as a reflection in 
the windshield.  To fix it, I bought a can of black "plastidip" at Home Depot and 
plastic coated the bracket (no more shine and no more sharp edges). When not in use, I 
just stuff the wires under the cubby box. Hope this helps.

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
'94 D90

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 22:48:26 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Salisbury Airlockers

TeriAnn said:

>Salisbury  Salisbury  Salisbury  Salisbury...I'm practicing 8*)

Good, TeriAnn, very good <pat, pat, pat>

I think there's info about the ARBs for the Salisbury on Lloyd Allison's
Land-Rover Web site.  My recollection is that these require some extra
spacers that make them a modicum more costly but otherwise the same.  Of
course, the carrier is different, with the 24-spline match.

I've got info somewhere but little chance I could find it.  Hmmm, that
reminds me.  In addition to BP selling ARB, there's a fellow in the PCRC
who'll surely be at the Portland meet (think he's out of Washington) who is
a dealer for ARBs too.  Might talk to him when you're there.

I, alas, will not be there.

Have fun,

Granny

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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: Lug wrench (spanner) 
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:38:35 +0200 (METDST)

Granny writes:
| >need to check out the socket size and repost.
| If it's the same as Series III, it's 1-1/16" socket.  If you are going out
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
| wankers at the tyre shops can really crank them on!  I had to borrow a 3/4"
| drive set from work to break them loose and had to add a cheater bar at that!
I have used a 27mm socket (27mm is very close to 1-1/16") on a bar with 1/2"
socket connector together with a 75cm waterpipe for this purpous. Never had
any problems with that, even after the tyre dealer.
Cheers,
Franz
---------------------------------------------------------------
Franz Parzefall                 tbr1102@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de

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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:54:16 +0200
From: David Bothe <bothe@itz-koeln.de>
Subject: Gasoline Additives - 3,5 V8

Helo!

I have an 1983 3,5 V8. The man who sold it said, we do not need leaded fuel. Can anybody confirm this?

Thanx

David Bothe

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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: re: Tee shirt design
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:13:05 +0200 (METDST)

Peter writes:
| Sorry folks, I blew it. Had you all searching for my design idea and gave you
| the wrong address. Should be
| http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gronous/teeshirt

Hi Peter,
sorry, but you forgot a '.htm' at the end. Though it's 
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gronous/teeshirt.htm

BTW. nice design.

Cheers
Franz
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Franz Parzefall                 tbr1102@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]           Brumml  exmil. 1989 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: RE: Gasoline Additives - 3,5 V8
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:27:58 +-200

David Bothe[SMTP:bothe@itz-koeln.de] wrote:
I have an 1983 3,5 V8. The man who sold it said, we do not need leaded fuel. Can anybody confirm this?

I have also 1983 3,5 V8, for the last 9 years it have only been run on 
unleaded fuel, 92 octane. No problem, but it is low compression, 8.13 to 1.
I don't know if it will work on engines with higher comp, e.g. Range Rover.
Happy Rovering
Bent Boehlers

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