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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:49:44 -0100
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Re : buying from a dealer

Couldn't help but chuckle at Fred's post about the cylinder head gasket
with no holes for some of the coolant channels. Was that one of the
OFFICIAL LAND ROVER head gaskets from the OFFICIAL source? As I recall,
there was a batch of original parts with no holes for some of the coolant
channels. It happened about two years ago.

The incident left me a bit nervous, since I changed head gaskets just
before the announcement came around.

Imagine my relief when I realized that my head gasket is an aftermarket,
and therefore not carrying the offending blockage!

Regards,

Ned Heite

P O Box 53
Camden, Delaware 19934 USA

_______
| _ |  | --]   archaeologists and Historians

=(O)-----(O)=  "Baby" short wheelbase Land Rover IIA 1969, 2.25 liter petrol
""""""""""""""""

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 09:33:33 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: Grey cylinder

Mike Cattell wrote:

> I have a series 3 , 1975 2.25 diesil which looks unmodified under the
> bonnet. I does not appear to have servo brakes i.e. no resevoir by the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
> crank case.
> There is no mention of this in either the repair ops manual or in haynes. Is
> it the work of a PO and what is it?

That little can is, in older LR's, the reservoir to the brake system and clutch system.
Where it attaches to the "T" piece is where it replenishes brake fluid to the system
and where it goes to the crankcase (on the right side just behind the bellhousing)
is the slave cylinder for the clutch.  If you look closely there is a little nipple
there for bleeding the clutch line.   It is unusual though since I thought on SIII 
they switched to a plastic reservoir.  I may be mistaken there.  

Be careful about that "oil" (brake fluid) coming out of the can, it will
 dissolve the paint like nothing you've ever seen.
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 10:13:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Pull-Pal & other anchors revisited

I have Pull-Pal and get stuck on purpose just to use it.  It is fun and
compact...I store it in the largest Bogen Tripod (photo equip) bag.  I pull
it out on the other side with a bow shackle and my winch and because of the
coating on it the dirt and mud comes right off and back in the bag.  

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From: lro@qdx.powernet.co.uk
Subject: pop3.powernet.co.uk Sun, 11 Aug 96 13:30:09
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 22:22:15 0

Richard wrote:
>> >I'd like to add FWHs, but I think I might take this opportunity to find
>> >out how many splines I have before ordering...
	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 6 lines)]
>Apparantly there are two kinds - perhaps the other (?10) is for a different
>Solihull product?

I used to think the ten-spline axles were discontinued with the Seri

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:22:58 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Paint codes

David Cockey wrote:

:Our '60 SII PU was originally blue. Comparing some of the remaining original
:paint to "Marine Blue" spray touchup paint from RN, the original is somewhat
:more green. Looking in a '64 parts book I see both "blue" and "marine blue"
:paint listed. I also remember hearing that there were two versions of "marine
:blue" although the same part numbers appear in a '68 parts book.
:
:Any ideas? Since our LR is a North America export model, could it be "blue"
:instead of "marine blue"? Or was marine blue changed? If so what are the
:paint codes? Do the Heritage certificates include original color?
:
:David Cockey
:Rochester, Michigan

David - never trust a paint code for an old vehicle. I saw two S I's painted 
RAF Blue, using the original paint code, and the colour of the vehicles 
looks like its been half-digested and regurgitated. The paintshop insisted 
it had used the right code, and I have since seen the same terrible paint, 
delivered by a different shop in a different country, but also ordered using 
the original code. Take the car to the paintshop and have them mix the batch 
using some protected part of the vehicle as a sample, for instance the 
inside of the seatbase or the panel behind the door trim, if you have any. 
Much easier and more reliable!
Good Land-Rovering
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:11:16 -0700
Subject: LRO various
From: Oliver_Gottlob@t-online.de (Oliver Gottlob)

Hi All!

T-Shirt:
IŽam very interestet in 2 _XXL_ T-Shirts. I would chose Brian Cottons Globe on. 
Nice idear to point out Solihull. :) I will also have the email adress on it.
Window Sticker is also fine.

King / Koenig winches:
A Friend of mine owns a King winch. But there were only the winch and the PTO
not the driveshafts and bearing from the PTO to the winch. Has anyone a drawing 
of the shafts & bearing ? 
IŽam intereted in a crank driven winch (driven like the Fairly capsan, but with steel 
rope and drum), because i had fitted a Overdrive (and wonŽt miss it). (How to reverse 
with a crank driven winch ??)

109 Brakes:
I hadnŽt fix the probem with my breaks. They had still pushed 2-3 time before there is 
full brakeforce. Thank you all for the tips to fix !! But I think there is still air in 
it. My next try will be to pump (under pressure)new brake fuild in the system using a 
spezial tool.

bye 
Oli

-- 
>>>>  Landrover 109 DIESEL 2.25l Series III 1976 <<<
>>>>  with Hard Top and Soft Top (in Summer)     <<<email:   Oliver_Gottlob@T-Online.de
AMPRBBS: DG5DBV@DB0BQ.#NRW.DEU.EU
amprnos: DG5DBV@DB0NOS.ampr.org
FAX:     (+) 49 2923 7276

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Date: 11 Aug 96 14:54:08 EDT
From: "Peter J. Gronous" <100617.1214@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Tee shirts

I have had a go at putting together a design for a tee shirt logo and have
posted it to my very rudimentary / elementary web page at....

www.ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gronous/teeshirt

I have looked at Brians and Sorens and reckon I would be pleased with any / all
of them when it comes to decide.

Peter Gronous
Surrey, England

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Date: 11 Aug 96 14:54:05 EDT
From: "Peter J. Gronous" <100617.1214@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Music suited to Landrovers

I have always thought that I would like to put together a video of Landrovers of
all models in all sorts of situations and have even got the soundtrack picked
out. I reckon that the lyrics of 'Woyaya' as done by the Ghanaian band Osibisa
in the early seventies would make a very appropriate accompaniment. I believe
Art Garfunkel has done a version also.

The Lyrics go something like this

We are going, Heaven knows where we going, we know within
We will get there , Heaven knows how we will get there, but we know we will

It will be hard we know and the road will be muddy and rough,
But we will get there , Heaven knows how we will get there, but we know we will

Has any one else got a track which they think suit the same purpose.

BTW; a few weeks back someone asked for movies with Landrovers in..." The Gods
Must be Crazy" features a Series I called "the anti-christ" and then there is
"Living Daylights" featuring one where James Bond has his first fight before it
goes over the cliff, but the most innappropriate casting has got to be in "633
Squadron" which is set in the second world war but has a Series I at the top of
a cliff during a sequence where bombing practice is being undertaken
(recognisable by its door tops and front wing / fender )

Regards 
Peter Gronous
Surrey, England

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:54:16 -0400
From: Ernest Young <ernyoung@earthlink.net>
Subject: T-shirts and other accessories

In order that we may be better able to identify one another while
driving our Rovers or when we are forced to drive some other vehicle, I
have designed a vinyl decal that should meet that need. It may be veiwed
at my home page http://home.earthlink.net/~ernyoung/. Here is a breif
description. A 6inch wide by 3 inch tall oval with the letters LRO in
the center. The letters as well as the border around the oval are Land
Rover Green while the oval is a golden yellow. These can be made for
surface mounting and also window mounting. 

Let me know what you think...

Ernie Young
Providence RI
90 Range Rover County

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:04:44 -0400
From: Richard Ruffer <rruffer@interserv.com>
Subject: Re: T-shirts and other accessories

Ernest Young wrote:
> I have designed a vinyl decal 
> Let me know what you think...

Ernie -
I think it's a good idea to have a decal, especially when driving lesser vehicles.  In 
fact, while T-shirts are fun, the benefit to a decal is that you can have it on your LR 
all the time (my wife wouldn't let me wear a T-shirt all the time).  The decal looks 
great.  

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
'94 D90

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:57:03 -0400
Subject: Re: T-shirts and other accessories

Ernie has designed a sticker to aid recognition of vehicles belonging to LRO
net members:
> A 6inch wide by 3 inch tall oval with the letters LRO in
>the center. The letters as well as the border around the oval are Land
>Rover Green while the oval is a golden yellow.
Sounds like a great idea, but the slightly knowledgeable might interpret as
refering to "Land Rover Owner International" magazine, also frequently
refered to as LRO. Prehaps the addition of "Net" below the LRO would be
appropriate.

David Cockey

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:12:32 -0400
Subject: Re:buying from commercial dealers,fred's post

On 8 Aug Fred Ellsworth wrote:I have run across so much lame craftsmanship I
can't
believe it, especially considering RNs reputaion for quality.  The latest
was yesterday when I went to put in a new head gasket.  I popped off the
head only to discover they had used a faulty head gasket in assembling the
engine.  It had no holes for three of the coolant passages!!  The fourth
coolant passage was blocked by a large chunk of Blue Goo!! I'm sure everyone
knows by now what I think of blue RTV. I do happen to think highly of RN.
Charlie has helped me out immeasurably before. Just one question, did the PO
have receipts? That sounds soooo un-RoversNorth-ish, there's bound to be a
good story behind (under?!?) all that BlooGoo! Cheers!!
                                                                       John
Dillingham, Woodstock, GA 
73 s3 SWB
72 s3 SWB paperweight
66 s2a SWB soft top "Red Rover" being minded for friend/customer 
Vintage Rover Service
"Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!"
"From percs to tylenol, and the knee is knitting fine, but I want to get back
down to the shop!!"

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:47:41 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Oli's winch quest

Oli said:

>King / Koenig winches:
>A Friend of mine owns a King winch. But there were only the winch and the=
 PTO
>not the driveshafts and bearing from the PTO to the winch. Has anyone a
drawing
>of the shafts & bearing ?
>I=B4am intereted in a crank driven winch (driven like the Fairly capsan,=
 but with
>steel rope and drum), because i had fitted a Overdrive (and won=B4t miss=
 it).
>(How to reverse with a crank driven winch ??)

The Koenig crankshaft-driven winches have a gearbox with forward and
reverse.  Bear in mind that Koenigs are no longer manufactured.  Although
Koenig is still in business (makes pumps for fire engines), it no longer
makes or supplies parts for the winches, so I'm told.

I have not heard of any other brand of drum winch that drove from the
crankshaft.

There is an alternative that gives you a PTO winch and an overdrive.  Just
find a Land-Rover bottom PTO.  It replaces the stamped steel bottom cover of
the transfer case.  Unfortunately, these are also no longer manufactured and
are rare as hens' teeth.  I know someone who has parts of one and that's the
closest I've ever come to seeing one (and I've been watching for one for
years!).

Happy hunting,

Granville Pool
Redwood Valley, CA

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 20:53:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: paint codes

For what it is worth, in Manitoba here I get my paint checked by computer 
without using the codes and it comes back exactly the right color even 
with the fade factor included.  The company here that does it is 
UAP/Napa.  I know this company has outlets in the U.S. at least.  What 
they do is, I give them a piece of metal with the colour on it and they 
place it under some kind of scanning microscope that picks out the 
colours and mixes up a paint to match.  To date I have bought both gallon 
sized and spray sized containers of it and I have been very happy.  
They also have a service where they will place paint in a spray can for 
you if you have an old can of paint you want to spray.  I have a very 
good Devilbiss spray outfit but I don't use it much now since I have 
found this very good source of spray paint.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:53:03 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Gearbox muscle

>Calmly aligning the clutch and screwing on the bell housing fixing
>nuts while in the process of contracting a double hernia ain't my idea
>of a good time.

Here's a nifty trick that works in aligning bellhousings or heads and 
gaskets for that matter.

Find a 4-6" bolt in the same thread pattern as the bellhousing bolts (I 
forget what they are), cut off the head and machine a screwdriver slot in 
the cut face.  When "offering the gearbox to the engine" place on the two 
bolts and slide it on home.  Mind you, don't rest a whole lotta weight on 
these, just use 'em as a guide.  The same trick will keep the head gasket 
centered when pull the head.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *----1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7 ----*

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From: Patrick Fear <pfear@iafrica.com>
Subject: TDi series
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:47:37 +-200

Hi All,
Help.
1. I have a 110 V8 with 135000Kms on the clock. I have just had the =
compression tested -OK. The problem is excessive oil blowing out of the =
breather into the air filter. Last weekend we went on a long(ish) trip =
with my partner following me- no blue smoke was detected- in fact the =
motor is running very well. As most of my driving is for short distances =
the oil "leak" is not apparent, only on open road driving @ 100Km/hour.
2. I am looking at buying a 89' hardtop diesel inc' turbo. There is no =
mention of the 'TDi' phrase on the truck. I am aware of the 3 series =
motors, 100, 200 & 300. The question is, how do I tell them apart? This =
truck was assembled is South Africa.

Thanks in advance,
Patrick Fear.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
pfear@iafrica.com
Port Elizabeth
85 110 V8 Htop & possible 89 diesel Htop. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: RE: Rover questions
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 10:54:46 +-200

1: the VIN number is 27903809C. Where can I look up info about this, or can
anyone send it to me?
Difficult, but 279 sayes it is a IIA 88" or 109"
03809 is the number
C gives level of modifications made.

On earlier models there was a lot of information's in the serial number,
but from 1962 only the model. 

Best possibility is to contact:
British Motor Industry Heritage Trust
To FAX	:	(+) 44 1926 641 555
ATT	:	Anders Ditlev Clausager

For the amount of 20 British Pounds they can send You a certificate 
production date, engine, colour, dealer it was delivered to, and factory 
mounted equipment.

4:What's the best manual to buy? I want wiring, plumbing, teardown and
rebuild procedures, etc. I have been happy with haynes in the past, but never
owned a foreign vehicle. Do they compare?

Factory workshop repair manual, spare parts catalogue, 
have a look at http://web.idirect.com/~lroshop/

5: I am going to have the swivel balls hard chrome/teflon plated by someone I
know. I believe this teflon will prevent corrosion and make the balls a less
vulnerable item. Has anyone ever tried this? would anyone be interested if I
found that it worked?I suspect this would cost about 250.00 each ball. 

Sounds good, I would like to hear about the result.

Happy Rovering
Bent Boehlers

SI 1955
110" 1983

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