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1 Martin Lusk [luskm@weka.28IIa help please
2 Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-m25strange plug in fusebox
3 "Mr Ian Stuart" [Ian.Stu39Re: IIa help please
4 LRO Book Shop & The LRO 28T-shirts
5 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi26Re: T shirts
6 Andy Woodward [azw@aber.29RE: Rusting D90
7 wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter d26Series II brakes / snail cams / T shirts
8 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi33Re: T-shirts
9 MHKINGER@aol.com 10Re: LR Restoration Manual
10 Don Scott [101364.3474@C15RE:T-Shirts
11 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob19Re: Series II brakes / snail cams
12 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob13Re[2]: T-Shirts
13 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi28A pile of Rovers??
14 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo122Swivel balls
15 ericz@cloud9.net 25Re: IIa help please
16 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em12Re: T-shirts
17 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em30Re: Swivel balls
18 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob28Re: Swivel balls
19 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us9Nerd Identifier
20 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo124Re: Swivel balls
21 Deezilbob@aol.com 13Ser.1 air cleaner / volt. reg.#
22 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob14Re: Ser.1 air cleaner / volt. reg.#
23 David Place [dplace@SIRN10Re: IIa help please
24 Paul Daintree [paul@wda.17Re: T-Shirts
25 cascardo@ix.netcom.com (17Re: Rusting D90
26 parch@smmff.com (Paul Ar19Re: LRO T-Shirt
27 "S. Vels" [svels@mail-se28Re: Series II brakes / snail cams / T shirts
28 hilltop [hilltop@advanta24Re: Cool it!!
29 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob78Re[2]: Swivel balls
30 parch@smmff.com (Paul Ar21Re: LRO T-Shirt
31 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em17Re: A pile of Rovers??
32 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob23Re[2]: Cool it!!
33 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob26Re: Nerd Identifier
34 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob17Ford V6 Conversion
35 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em14Re: Nerd Identifier
36 "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa34Re: A pile of Rovers??
37 "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa2[not specified]
38 gpool@pacific.net (Granv38Re: Ford V6 Conversion
39 ASFCO@aol.com 14Re: A pile of Rovers??
40 ASFCO@aol.com 12Re: T-shirts
41 jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (43Re: A pile of Rovers??
42 David Place [dplace@SIRN20Land Rover duds
43 "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@26Re: Land Rover duds
44 "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@23Re: Land Rover duds
45 "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa39Re: Ford V6 Conversion
46 Michael Carradine [cs@cr36LA British Car Meet
47 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi47New event! Here we go again
48 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit21T Shirts
49 Allan Smith [smitha@cand18Re: generic rusting
50 hilltop [hilltop@advanta28Solicitation of Opinions from the All Knowing
51 "Franklin H. Yap" [FHYap14Re: Dielectric Grease
52 "Franklin H. Yap" [FHYap11Re: IIa help please (Dielectric Grease)
53 rhodesia@juno.com (Chris14[not specified]
54 rhodesia@juno.com (Chris10[not specified]
55 rhodesia@juno.com (Chris18[not specified]
56 "Franklin H. Yap" [FHYap11Re: IIa help please (Dielectric Grease)
57 "John Y. Liu" [johnliu@e58Re: Swivel balls
58 "John Y. Liu" [johnliu@e17Re: LA British Car Meet
59 Mark Perry [rxq281@freen16TV sighting
60 David Rosenbaum [rosenba12Re: Pull-Pal: Would a Danforth Anchor Work?
61 David Rosenbaum [rosenba17T-shirts?!


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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 22:35:57 +1200
From: Martin Lusk <luskm@weka.lincoln.ac.nz>
Subject: IIa help please

Although  don't have my own Land Rover yet, I would appreciate if 
someone could answer a few questions I have on the short wheel base 

1)Will a 3.5 litre Rover V8 fit in the series IIa 88'

2)What is the best method of speeding up the gearing of the series 
    IIa ie RR diffs, Salsbury diffs

3)Is adding air shocks the only way of raising the chasis.

4) What can you do in water without a snorkel (raised air intake) ie 
      how deep etc

Any help would be much appreciated.

Martin.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Martin Lusk
BCom(Ag)
Lincoln University
New Zealand
(the rest is classified)

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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: strange plug in fusebox
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:04:39 +0200 (METDST)

Hello Rovers, 
I had a close look inside the fusebox of my military 110 this week
and found a disconnected plug in there. The plug is black, round,
aprox 2cm diam. and has 2 relatively thin red wires, despite it looks
like it could take 3 wires by design. The female part has power
according to the front/rear parking lights (one wire rear, one front).
The male part has no connection to ground (neither high or low Ohm). 
Putting together had no effect.
Has anyone a suggestion what it might be? My (civi) manual is silant
about it.
Curious,
Franz
---------------------------------------------------------------
Franz Parzefall                 tbr1102@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]           Brumml  exmil. 1989 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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From: "Mr Ian Stuart" <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:36:34 +0000
Subject: Re: IIa help please

Quoting Martin Lusk, from  2 Aug 96

> 1)Will a 3.5 litre Rover V8 fit in the series IIa 88'
Yes, with some work.

> 2)What is the best method of speeding up the gearing of the series 
>     IIa ie RR diffs, Salsbury diffs
RR Diffs. or (better) an overdrive: gives you .78:1 increase in rolling 
speed, without screwing the speedo. You could also replace the 15" wheels 
with 16" and the 205 tyres with 750's. Changing anything after the 
prop-shaft will squew the speedo readings..

> 3)Is adding air shocks the only way of raising the chasis.
no.
using 750 tyrs on 16" wheels will also raise the chassis..

> 4) What can you do in water without a snorkel (raised air intake) ie 
>       how deep etc
If you drive carefully (ie constant speed & just fast enough) you can wade 
to about two or three feet. The trick is to make a steady bow wave and not 
let it break through into the engine bay.

You will find that a snorkle is not the only thing you need if you want to 
do *deep* wading - water in the engine-bay will scupper the ignition on a 
petrol engine. V8's are more suseptable to water that straight-4s.

For deep wading, go for a diesel.

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

Quote of 1996: "A.L.S. is a good example of scottishissityness"

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:52:14 -0400
From: LRO Book Shop & The LRO Shop <lroshop@idirect.com>
Subject: T-shirts

At the risk of dragging this whole saga out we have a suggestion to make.
We are a commercial concern but very much a part of the Land Rover movement
both here and in the UK.  LROI and LRO Shop supports various club
activities.  We don't much care who produces the shirt or the design but we
are in danger of talking this thing to death and losing out on a very good idea.

We see lots of messages from individuals with orders of two shirts, three
shirts etc.  Who is keeping tabs on this.

We would like to offer our services as the gatherer of information.  If
those interested in obtaining the digest t-shirt would send us an email at
lroshop@idirect.com with details of your requirements, i.e. name, size,
quantity we will collate that information and pass it on to whoever gets the
deal done.

Unless anyone objects to a commercial operation getting involved,
advertising itsself etc. etc.

Great idea guys, lets keep it moving but with a little methodology applied
(did I spell that right?)

Have a great weekend and for those in Canada, enjoy the long weekend.  Safe
driving everyone.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:17:23 -5
Subject: Re: T shirts

>      missed the lead post about this subject but there is a d90 sw
>      owner who has a tshirt printing co in mass called Planet 
>      Sportwear tel 617 576 3333 have seen the work and its great 
>      quality
>      chris
Well, there you go then. I'm sure there's bound to be good 
artist/rover owner who we could persuade to donate a design, and if 
we can get the d90 owner to donate some time and his facility, we can 
get some t-shirts. I'd rather see us actually get it done by 
volunteer efforts (assuming it really gets done) than go the 
comercial route.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:11:33 +0000
Subject: RE: Rusting D90

>As far as rusty hardware, I do a monthly walkaround on my 90 (and the
>= other Rovers too!) with a can of good old WD40. Give all of the
>steel = hardware a spritz of the stuff. Door handle plates, seatbelt
>brackets, = body mounting bolts, hinges, engine compartment hardward,
>etc. You'll be = surprised at how well this all works.

I'd be surprised if it worked if you didnt keep toppin it up every 
month......WD40 is great for dryin out wet contacts, but is hopeless 
fro rust prevention.

The magic word is (YaaaAAAWWWN!)

WAXOYL.

No significant rust on my chassis after 12 years of neglect and 
salt.....I just wash it with a stirrup pump and respray any rust 
patches once a year

>Same reason that after 25 years of ownership of my 2A 88 the only
>frame = piece needing replacement was the rear crossmember. Rest good
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 55 lines)]
>------ =_NextPart_000_01BB8003.6CBFFFC0
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 15:26:34 +0200
From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
Subject: Series II brakes / snail cams / T shirts

Hi all

Sent this yesterday, didn't see it in the digest, maybe it'll get
duplicated, anyway again:

The snail cams on my brake backing plates (Series II front) are pretty worn.
It looks like they can be ground off and new ones welded on, but the parts
manual I have gives the complete backing plate as a replacement part.

Does anyone know of a source for just the cams, or the cam + bolt combo?

ObNewInfo (in addition to yesterdays missing post)

The Vanagon List made up a T shirt. Nice. Shows the 4 types of VW vans,
splitty, loaf, vanagon, eurovan. Front views in different colors. There
should be a picture on the web somewhere. Good quality etc, but pretty
expensive, I think US$20 incl shipping to ZA. BTW I've got two :-)

Thanks

Wouter

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:26:48 -5
Subject: Re: T-shirts

Sandy asks:
>  And how could we get a concensus on 
> design?  "Series I!"  "No, no, IIa!"  "Lightweight, of course!"  "Forward 
> control!"  Cheers 
-
The BMW logo?
JUST KIDDING!

Maybe the name "Land Rover" (who makes all the vehicles) and an 
illustration of one so caked in mud you can't tell whether it's a 
series one or a range rover classic.
Actually, I'd vote for a pretty generic design that all the lists  
would be proud to wear. Whoever does the design could have it posted 
on the various LR web sites for preview (assuming of course the 
websters agree). Or maybe three or four 
designs could be done and a vote taken. If people wanted to go that 
route, I could set up a quick database in Notes that I can publish to 
my website to collect votes.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: MHKINGER@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:38:07 -0400
Subject: Re: LR Restoration Manual

If you have the Land Rover Parts Cataloge for your Series and the associated
service manual there aint nothing you can't tackle. I'm living proof of that.
Have fun.
Mike

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Date: 02 Aug 96 09:33:28 EDT
From: Don Scott <101364.3474@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: RE:T-Shirts

Sounds like SA is best place for printing

any consensus on the design yet

Put me down for 2 anyway

What color is favorite ( I vote black so as not to show the oil stains )

Don Scott
LR/RR/Disco/Jaguar Hybrid   ( 5.3l efi V12 Land Rover) 

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 10:10:12 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Series II brakes / snail cams 

The snail cams on my brake backing plates (Series II front) are pretty worn.
..snip...

Does anyone know of a source for just the cams, or the cam + bolt combo?

I got a set of four adjusters from British pacific in the US. The set was 23 
dollars US which was a darn fine deal, and installation was easy (grind off old 
adjuster and bolt on new one with special locking boolt, supplied) The kit was 
made in UK as ageneric aftermarket kit that fits alot of British Cars. they tell
you which combination of parts to use for each car. I forget who made the kit, 
but I'm sure you cna find it or something similar for very little. I can find 
out from BP wh makes em, as I've tossed the packaging...

Dave B.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 10:13:36 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: T-Shirts

>>>>What color is favorite ( I vote black so as not to show the oil stains )

How about poppy red?

Seriously though, methinks something close to Bronze green, with yellow or white
ink...

Dave "Black ain't a Land-Rover colo(u)r" B.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:25:00 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: A pile of Rovers??

Dear All, especially those out west,
        I was just reading my new Hemming Motor News, and found an ad for a
ton of rare stuff. I bring this up as some of you have asked for 101 and
Lightweight parts. The ad reads...

        LR business for sale, 35 vehicles including 101 ambulances,
lightweights, etc. over 100 tons new, used parts, 275,000 for all. AMEI
PoBox 111 O'Brien, OR, USA, 97534 or call 541-596-2177.

        Don't know anything about it, but sounds like someone with a lot of
rare on not so legal parts, may be a good chance to find some Rovers or
parts. Maybe they'll sell parts or single Rovers, who knows, buyer beware.
        Anyone have any info on this company in O'Brien OR??

        See ya!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 10:07:15 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Swivel balls

Hi all,

I've been noticing a significant increase in the flow of 140W from both right
and left swivel balls.  The rate's high enough to require topping off every
two weeks or so.  I figure I'm due for swivel ball overhaul.

Questions:
1. How tough is this job?
2. I plan to replace the balls at the same time I do the seals since they're
showing significant pitting. Should I do any other items as long as I'm in there?

Thanks
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:41:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: IIa help please

>You will find that a snorkle is not the only thing you need if you want to 
>do *deep* wading - water in the engine-bay will scupper the ignition on a 
>petrol engine. V8's are more suseptable to water that straight-4s.

I've actually found the opposite....unless I'm missing something.  With the 
distributor higher up on the V8, I've found that I could wade where 4 cylinder 
vehicles were stalling out....anyone else have such experience?

BTW, besides Ford, anyone know a good brand of dialectric grease available in 
the states (natural aversion to going to the dealer)

Rgds,
Eric

_______________________________________________________________________
OVERLAND MOTORS...."EXPEDITION SPECIALISTS"	    1075 Washington St.
Land Rover - Range Rover - Discovery - Defender	    Peekskill, NY 10566 USA
http://www.OverlandMotors.com  Fax: (914) 734-4352  Phone: (914) 734-4333
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:02:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: T-shirts

On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Tom Rowe wrote:

> would be proud to wear. Whoever does the design could have it posted 
> on the various LR web sites for preview (assuming of course the 
> websters agree).

	No problem...

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:09:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Swivel balls

On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Nathan Dunsmore wrote:

> 1. How tough is this job?

	Not too bad... :-)

> 2. I plan to replace the balls at the same time I do the seals since they're
> showing significant pitting. Should I do any other items as long as I'm in 
> there?

	Rest of the parts are pretty cheap...

	576583	swivel pin	
	531001	locker	
	528702	washer	
	539742	housing with bush	
	530984	shim	
	530985	shim	
	530986	shim	
	530987	shim	
	RTC3528	oil seal	
	232413	joint washer	
	277289	gasket	
	231505	gasket	
	RTC3515	oil seal	

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 11:26:56 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Swivel balls

>>.  I figure I'm due for swivel ball overhaul.

>>>Questions:
>>>1. How tough is this job? 

If you can do a frameover...

This was th first major thing I did on my Land Rover. Last I knew it was holding
up well. The hardest part is getting undoing the damn bolts that hold the swivel
balls to the axle casing.

>>>2. I plan to replace the balls at the same time I do the seals since they're
>>showing significant pitting. Should I do any other items as long as I'm in
>>>there?

Check the axle UJ's, replace axle case seals, wheel bearings, hub seals/races 
tie rod ends, brake shoes/adjusters, wheel studs, anything that you will be 
getting into which is basically anything past the end of the exle casing. Also 
halfshaft end bearing if necessary. Mine were ok. I have new ones if you need 
em. I'll send you the whole thing I wrote about doing swivel balls if I can find
it.
 
Dave B.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 11:20:51 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Nerd Identifier

How about "Computer Geeks and Rover Freaks" for the T-shirt motto.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 11:28:40 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: Swivel balls

Bobeck, David R. wrote:

> The hardest part is getting undoing the damn bolts that hold the swivel
> balls to the axle casing.

Are they accessible with a grinder or nut splitter?

> Check the axle UJ's, replace axle case seals, wheel bearings, hub seals/races
> tie rod ends, brake shoes/adjusters, wheel studs, anything that you will be
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> em. I'll send you the whole thing I wrote about doing swivel balls if I can find
> it.

Thanks
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: Deezilbob@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:00:28 -0400
Subject: Ser.1 air cleaner / volt. reg.#

If T. Wakeman needs a Ser. 1 air cleaner, I have one w/o the bottom oil
reservoir that I could part with. Olafur Agust needs the Lucas # for a
 voltage reg. The RB106 is 37290F(typical 4cyl. pet), the RB340 is 37387E or
37517D(typical 6cyl.pet). Some diesels used the same as 6cyl. pet. but some
used another which I do not have in front of me but I can get. These #'s are
out of a Lucas service parts catalog. As far as the T-shirts, I'll take 2 lg.
when/whatever.........D.B.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 12:26:13 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Ser.1 air cleaner / volt. reg.#

>>>If T. Wakeman needs a Ser. 1 air cleaner, I have one w/o the bottom oil
reservoir that I could part with. 

I have an extra bottom piece that I could part with. Its SIII so I don't know if
they're the same diameter, and it needs a small blob of welding on the bottom to
repair a pinhole leak.

DaveB. 
Arlington VA

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:56:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Re: IIa help please

I agree that the 4 cyl. seems to get wet sooner than the V8.  I have used 
surgical gloves over the dist. body and a condom on the coil of the 4 
cyl. and it helps, but water in the spark plug hole seems to kill the 
vehicle pretty fast as well.  On my Ser I vehicle, I seem to recall that 
there was an "0" ring.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: 	Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:14:54 +0100
From: Paul Daintree <paul@wda.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: T-Shirts

My vote goes to Brian Cotton's design.
Only cos I am a skinflint and approx 3 pounds sterling sounds better than 7 pounds sterling.
When they are ready I will have two, both XL please. Ta very much.

as to design, why not Land-rover.team.net over the logo or a series vehicle, easy to put together,
instantley recognizable.

As an aside I got Microsoft Exchange configured for E-mail, its better than netscape as it will
spell check before you send, hopefully I will soon have it set to automatically
dial up and disconnect as well - (flash begger :-) )

Andrew Daintree - 1984 109" series III

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:57:37 -0700
From: cascardo@ix.netcom.com (Lucas Andres Cascardo)
Subject: Re: Rusting D90

You wrote: 

>Depends on your personality but I would tell them to replace it and 
make sure it's
>filled with grease.  At this point, I think you're looking at eventual 
rust out 

Speaking of grease what type would you suggest.  I tried white lithium 
on the door hinges but because they are external the lithium began to 
clump.

Lucas C.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:36:10 -0700
From: parch@smmff.com (Paul Archibald)
Subject: Re: LRO T-Shirt

Since we are a computer-linked group, how about a drawing/characture of
someone working on his/her land-rover while using a computer/modem with one
hand.Sorta like the Rovers north adv. regarding how the guy had saved so
much money by not dating due to the time spent working on his Rover, that
he was able to buy a Range-Rover. I don't recall the signature on the
illustration, but... It seams that we are always stopping in the middle of
working on the beasts to ask for advice. Just a thought. It would be more
interesting than a simple logo with a few words!

Paul Archibald
Parch@smmff.com
(510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336
'58 88" RHD 2-litre
"87 Range-Rover-156,000 miles-going strong (Squeak)  

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 20:40:40 +0001
Subject: Re: Series II brakes / snail cams / T shirts

> The snail cams on my brake backing plates (Series II front) are pretty worn.
> It looks like they can be ground off and new ones welded on, but the parts
> manual I have gives the complete backing plate as a replacement part.

I don't know if sIII cams would fit in the holes. Mine are bolted on. 
I took them off for a touch-up with a set of key files.
 
> Does anyone know of a source for just the cams, or the cam + bolt combo?

If your regular sources can't provide anything satisfactory, try 
Williams Land-Rover Reservedele I/S. Fax no. (+45) 86 66 79 77 
(grp3).

William is famous for finding and shipping even the tiniest bolt or 
what ever you need.

Be shure to give him all the details. 

May seem strange to order him from ZA, but if it gets you there..

rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 14:45:37 -0500
From: hilltop <hilltop@advantage.ca>
Subject: Re: Cool it!!

Bobeck, David R. wrote:
> Hey all.
> I brought two radiators over to a local shop to see if they could rod them out

> Does anybody know anything about this "VT" core or have any experience with
> other types of cores?.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> Thank You All
> Dave "I like cool engines" B.

Dave,
   My rover is older than those rads ('58) but it had what is called a 
"low flow" radiator. Looks more like a honey comb pattern. Basically 
it's the same thing as a heater core in most cars, only bigger. In fact 
that's what he used to re-core it. Some of the older Cadilacs and lots 
of other 20's and 30's cars used them. Try a rad shop with a little more 
historical experience. According to my rad man using a conventional core 
would have caused over-heating.
						Ronald

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 14:56:01 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Swivel balls

 the damn bolts that hold the swivel
> balls to the axle casing.

>>>Are they accessible with a grinder or nut splitter?
Grinder yes, nut splitter no, chisel yes, box-end wrench no, torch yes, socket 
no, out-and-out-rage-and-supernatural-wrath-curse-of-the-gods no. 

Here's the deal. I can't find the message I was thinkng I had so here goes.....

First off, either get everything you need from RN (big bucks) or buy a kit. I 
got mine from Atlantic British and I was pretty happy with it. There's lots o' 
little parts that you don't know you need so talk to one of the experts wherever
you buy it. The AB kit comes w/everythin you need. including gaiters. Try 
British pacific, they probably have a good deal. 

The first step is to strip the axle. This means tire then brake drum then brake 
shoes then freewheel hub then regular hub then stub shaft then backing 
plate.There are locking tab plates for all these, that will need to be replaced.

Suspend the backing plate with baling wire so that the flex hose is not 
strained.

Another way to get to this point is to undo a few less parts.

You could:

remove the tire and brake drum to take some weight off.

disconnect the flex hose from the wheel cylinder

remove the swivel pin housing seal retainer and the seal. the sela will just 
hang on around the swivel ball for now. 

remove the four studs on the bottom of the swivel pin HOUSING

drop the steering arm bottom pin that was held by the four studs.

remove the four bolts holding the top pin

remove the top pin

carefully pull the housing away from the swivel ball, being mindful of the 
halfshaft

You are now left with just the swivel ball on the end of the axle, alittle less 
taking apart there. 

The other way is to just unbolt the swivel ball from the axle and pull the whole
shebang out, axle shaft and all, and bring it inside to your workbench. Might 
make reassembly much more pleasant. Also a good trick if you are just changing 
the seal.

There's probably a few gaskets in there you'll end up making out of newspaper. 
That's what was on mine, and they were working nicely

When you are reassembling, I do believe you've got to have the new top busing 
pressed in and the same with the bottom bearing race. I did this at the local 
garage for abuot forty bucks, im sure you could do better than that.

Put it all back together with the seal hanging loose, and test the preload on 
the top pin by pulling with a fish scale. Its supposed to be between10 and 18 
lbs after overcoming the inertia. Mine was around 18-20, with all the shims. It 
steered fine and wasn't bindin so i went with it. 

Bolt it all back up and slap the gaiters on ther so you won't have to do it 
again. Just clean uot the gaiters every so often by driving trough the water :-)
Put the gaiter seam facing down so they can drain, not facing back as in the 
directions. If you do that they will trap all sorts of mud and grit that will 
kill your balls.

Have fun, and don't forget to fill it all back up with 90wt when youre done...

Dave "I've got new balls" B.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:11:31 -0700
From: parch@smmff.com (Paul Archibald)
Subject: Re: LRO T-Shirt

Major barfed this back so here it is again
Since we are a computer-linked group, how about a drawing/characture of
someone working on his/her land-rover while using a computer/modem with one
hand.Sorta like the Rovers north adv. regarding how the guy had saved so
much money by not dating due to the time spent working on his Rover, that
he was able to buy a Range-Rover. I don't recall the signature on the
illustration, but... It seams that we are always stopping in the middle of
working on the beasts to ask for advice. Just a thought. It would be more
interesting than a simple logo with a few words!
        Paul

Paul Archibald
Parch@smmff.com
(510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336
'58 88" RHD 2-litre
"87 Range-Rover-156,000 miles-going strong (Squeak)  

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 15:10:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: A pile of Rovers??

On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Mike Smith wrote:

>         LR business for sale, 35 vehicles including 101 ambulances,
> lightweights, etc. over 100 tons new, used parts, 275,000 for all. AMEI
> PoBox 111 O'Brien, OR, USA, 97534 or call 541-596-2177.
>.
	This sounds quiet fascinating.  Accumulating 35 Land Rovers isn't
	that difficult, but 101 ambulances etc is quite impressive.  The
	cost of bringing all of this into the USA.  100 tons of parts!?
	This would make an interesting series of photos.  Anyone in this
	part of Oregon who can take a stop by and check this out?  Sounds
	a bit fantastic.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 15:26:14 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Cool it!!

Bobeck, David R. wrote:
> Hey all.
> I brought two radiators over to a local shop to see if they could rod them out
  [ truncated by lro-lite (was 13 lines)]
> Thank You All
> Dave "I like cool engines" B.
>>>>> Try a rad shop with a little more 
historical experience. According to my rad man using a conventional core 
would have caused over-heating.
      Ronald

This guy was recommended to me by the local shop that works on and restores 
british sports cars. He knows what to put in there, pretty much a basic 
radiator, just a more efficient type of core than a standard car radiator

Thanks...

Dave "still waiting to hear back from him though" B.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 15:33:19 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Nerd Identifier

Bill trie shis hand at the t-shirt idea...

How about "Computer Geeks and Rover Freaks" ....

"oil leaks?"...

"small mammals squeak"

flame of the week

gear oil reeks...
potatoes and leeks

smelly sneaks (in your ARB locker)

Oh boy am I bored...

Dave B.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 15:39:40 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Ford V6 Conversion

A firend of mine is wondering whther he ought to buy this Rover, it's a SIII 88'
with a 2.8ford V6. He wants it mostly for the OD. Anybody know anything about 
the Ford V6 conversion? Apparently this car would come with a pattern to make 
more adapters for the future if necessry. Price is 1500 canadian, he's hoping to
get it for the OD and then maybe fix it up and sell it for abou tthe same price.
try to break even and get an OD out of it...
I told 'im a few things I thought of to watch out for on the conversion and that
I'd try to get an opinion off the list...

Well?

Dave "Mr Curious" B.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 15:44:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Nerd Identifier

On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Bobeck, David R. wrote:

> "oil leaks?"...
> "small mammals squeak"

	Should add a black blob under the two Land ROvers in the Soren
	design with a small furry creature looing on in the corner...

	You are bored...  

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: A pile of Rovers??

On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Dixon Kenner wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Mike Smith wrote:
> >         LR business for sale, 35 vehicles including 101 ambulances,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> 	This would make an interesting series of photos.  Anyone in this
> 	part of Oregon who can take a stop by and check this out?  Sounds
> 	a bit fantastic.

I had a little trouble finding O'Brien, OR, but it turns out to be in SW
Oregon south of Grants Pass on Hwy 199 just north of the California State
Line.  This puts it on a possible route for those Californians going to
the Portland ABFM Labor Day Weekend (Labor Day looks to be September 2
this year). It's interesting that this business site has not become one of
common knowledge among the Land Rover cognoscente, at least south of the
border. 

Is this another one of those well kept secrets that everybody in Oregon
knows? 

In any case, maybe a side trip would be in order for the end of the month.

Rgds,

Walt          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
              * Walter C. Swain         | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us       *
              * Davis Community Network | 1969 Dormobile- "Bertha"      *
              * Davis, California       | 1988 Range Rover- "Lady Jane" *
              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:55:28 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Ford V6 Conversion

>A firend of mine is wondering whther he ought to buy this Rover, it's a SIII
>88' with a 2.8ford V6. He wants it mostly for the OD. Anybody know anything 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>hoping to get it for the OD and then maybe fix it up and sell it for about the 
>same price.

Mr. Curious,

This is the first time I've heard of one of these conversions this side of
the pond.  There's a firm in the U.K. that makes two different such
conversions, one for the Ford Colgne V-6s (which the 2.8 would be) and
another for the Essex V-6s such as the 3.0-liter.  Steve Parker Land-Rovers
is the name of the outfit.  I think there may be another firm doing this as
well.  Apparently the 2.8 is pretty popular in the U.K. because you pretty
regularly see Land-Rovers so equipped for sale in LROI.  

What's interesting about this conversion, as far as I'm concerned, is that
the 4.0-liter V-6 used in the Ford Explorer and also in the Ranger pickup is
also a Colgne V-6 (made in Cologne, Germany) and so, theoretically, should
fit that same adapter.  This is rather exciting to me as this engine is
readily available here (in the U.S.), very compact and very smooth (both
because it's a 60-degree vee design which is the natural balance angle for
V-6 and V-12 designs).  It's not the most powerful (160bhp) but plenty for
an 88.  

But the 2.8?  Why bother with the cost and hassle of a conversion for that
little gain?

I'd be interested in buying the conversion pieces if someone parts it out :^)

Cheers,

Granny

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:08:50 -0400
Subject: Re: A pile of Rovers??

Hey Mike....
Sounds like a good place to set-up ECR-West..besides that way you could hold
an off-road day and Rally out there and then no one would complain that Maine
was too far to drive..that way you COULD satisfy everybody
See Ya 
Steve Bradke   72 S lll 88 (For Sale )                    
WA2GMC                      68 S lla 88
                      96 Discovery SE 7  

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:12:34 -0400
Subject: Re: T-shirts

In light of recent postings on things commercial 
lets keep this project to as much a volunteer effort as possible .....
As it seems the majority thinks the shirts are a good idea lets get a
deadline established and all those with ideas for the layout and design could
submit them and get them posted at a website where votes could be taken on a
final design...

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:21:57 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Re: A pile of Rovers??

You wrote: 

snip
>>    Anyone in this
>> 	part of Oregon who can take a stop by and check this out?  Sounds
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>I had a little trouble finding O'Brien, OR, but it turns out to be in SW
>Oregon south of Grants Pass on Hwy 199 
snip
>Is this another one of those well kept secrets that everybody in Oregon
>knows? 
snip
>Rgds,
>Walt         
>> 	a bit fantastic.

This brings back memories.  

About 3 and a bit years ago when I first started looking for a Series vehicle, 
I spotted an advert. in the S.F. Chronicle (what passes for a newspaper in 
these parts of Calif. :) ).  The ad was from a fellow selling, as I recall, a 
SIII 88. When I called the vehicle had already sold. I no longer have the 
number but, he was definitely in Oregon in the Grant's Pass area and sounded 
as if he were running a business because he took my name and number and 
indicated he commonly had vehicles for sale.  He certainly took the trouble to 
advertise in the Bay Area.  I never did hear back from him though.  He was 
friendly enough and sounded like he knew a reasonable amount about series 
vehicles.  I never heard of the fellow from anyone else in the 'Rover world 
though so I sort of let it slip.  I'm willing to bet this is the same fellow; 
however, the quantities of vehicle/parts involved seems to fall into the "too 
good to be true" category.  

Now I'm wondering just what's up there.  After all, it's only  6 hrs away as 
the D90 flys.  I remember passing the turnoff on our way up to the PNWTT meet. 

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:31:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Land Rover duds

I am looking for an authenic "Pith Helmet" to wear in my Land Rover.  No 
I have lots of the new type that are round and look like a woven straw or 
similar material.  You see lots of these on life guards etc.  No I want 
to replace my British Guard one which is slightly longer on the back than 
at the sides and front and it has a leather strap over the front.  It 
also has a small button on the top with 4 arched louvers to let in the 
air and I think to attack the plume to when on dress parade.  I have one 
which is over 30 years old and is looking a bit "rough" as it were.  I 
would like the address of somewhere to order same or if someone has one 
they want to sell I would like to have it.  No I don't wear it to Land 
Rove very often, but when I pull the Red Cross float in our local parade 
people seem to expect to see me in it :-)  I guess they associate these 
hats with the "real thing" as it were.  Dave VE4PN  P.S. the one I have 
is white, I think for parade use, but most come in kaki brown for battle 
conditions.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:35:24 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: Re: Land Rover duds

>I am looking for an authenic "Pith Helmet" to wear in my Land Rover.

Brigade Quartermasters in the U.S. 1-800-338-4327 or at
<http://www.actiongear.com>

For $34.95US you can be the proud owner of a WWII Type USMC Khaki Sun
Helmet. Fabric covered rigid fiber, adjustable head band (one size fits
all) and a chin strap.  Catalog number is KSH1960.

Enjoy.  RoverOn!

JAB

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       --Jimmy Buffett
                                                         

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:41:41 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: Re: Land Rover duds

Whoops --

 I misread David's original message about Pith Helmets.  Unfortunately, the
USMC helmet is the modern round type. It is not, however, woven.

Sorry to get your hopes up, maybe someone else is looking for one???

JAB

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                              Ia oro te natura
                      E mea arofa teie ao nei
                Ua oau te maitai no te fenua
               Te vai noa ra te ora o te mitie
                                  --Jimmy Buffett, One Particular Harbour

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:10:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Ford V6 Conversion

Hi Granville,

When I was at Billing a couple of weeks ago, I noticed that an especially
nice Dormobile had a 3000 V6 sticker on the side.  Sure enough, hunkering
down in the engine bay was a nice little V6 looking for all the world like
it really belonged there.  Lots of room all around, clean
firewall/bulkhead modification and no external changes (aside from the
decal).  The owner said it had been in there for 2-3 years, and he was
extremely happy with it.  I doubt that he pushed it very hard, and seldom
had it off road (if at all);  he had had no undue breakage of the drive
line and achieved his objective of being able to keep up with traffic on
the motorway hills.  As an added bonus, his fuel mileage had improved
markedly.  If I recall correctly, he still had the overdrive installed. 

In any case, this looks to be a viable conversion that does little 
violence to the basic vehicle and provides a significant, but not 
excessive, increase in power and economy.  It would be interesting to 
hear from other LROs that have experience with the Ford V6.

Rgds,

Walt          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
              * Walter C. Swain         | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us       *
              * Davis Community Network | 1969 Dormobile- "Bertha"      *
              * Davis, California       | 1988 Range Rover- "Lady Jane" *
              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Granville Pool wrote:
 
> Mr. Curious,
> This is the first time I've heard of one of these conversions this side of
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 25 lines)]
> I'd be interested in buying the conversion pieces if someone parts it out :^)
> Cheers,

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:12:23 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: LA British Car Meet

 The LROA has received notice of the LA British Car Meet coming up
 September 22.  It sounds much like the Palo Alto meet September 8, and
 somewhat less than the Portland meet on Labor Day.

 Michael Carradine
 <cs@crl.com>

                         The Los Angeles British Car Meet
                              Woodley Park, Van Nuys
                            Sunday, September 22, 1996

 Once again, Southern California British car enthusiasts are invited to return
 to Woodley Park in Van Nuys for the Los Angeles British Car Meet.  This tree
 shaded lawn event attracts over 500 cars, 14 clubs and hundreds of spectators.
 Cars need not be in show condition, daily runners and works in progress are
 encouraged.  Bring a picnic lunch or dine on American and traditional British
 food.  There will be People's Choice awards in five classes.  *Spectators
 attend free!!*

 Registration:  Registration fee is $15 per car at the gate.  Cars will be
 placed on the field by marque starting at 9:00 AM.  There will be no
 pre-registration.

 Directions:  Woodley Park is located directly west of the San Diego Freeway
 (405) between the Victory Blvd. and Burbank Blvd. exits, just north of the
 Ventura Freeway (101) interchange.  Take the Burbank Blvd. exit and turn west
 onto Burbank.  At the next signal, turn right onto Woodley and continue for
 about a block.  Look for the parking lot entrance at the right and line up for
 registration.

 Information:  310-392-6605, Fax 310-396-1933

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 19:49:40 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: New event! Here we go again

Dear All, especially you off roaders...
        Start getting you and your Rovers in shape!!!! A new event hosted
this fall by ECR is on the horizon. Unlike the July 4th Off Road Day, this
one will be a little different...
        An Off Road competition, for Rover products only. It will encompass
driving skill, vehicle set up, intelligence, etc. Not just a go fast deal,
a real challenge. We are still working out the details, but the site is all
set, and we will be looking for competitors soon.
        When... to be determined, but won't conflict with other Rover functions.
        Where... Western Maine, near the NH border.
        Who... competitors will be those serious about off roading, and
willing to prove in various classes that they are the best, or are willing
to compete with the best. Spectators as always are welcome.
        Why... because everyone at ECR is sick and twisted and just can't
leave well enough alone.
        An entry fee for the competitors will cover camp lodging, vehicle
entry, food during the event, etc. No charge for spectators. The number of
Rovers will be limited, and a few basic rules will apply, other than that
it will be up to your skill, Rover's capability, and luck to win the
challenge.

        Did I mention that winners will win prizes to be determined *not
just trophys* looks like cash, and or off road Rover equipment, as well as
knowing, for at least a year, you will be known as the best.

        More information will be leaked out as we iron out the details...

        Now for your part...
        If you belong to a Land Rover club, we will be asking for your
help, and your best! Still working this out, but we'd like to compete, not
only Rover and its team against other Rovers and teams, but club team
against club team. If you or your club are interested let me know.

        See ya, Off Road!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 20:56:20 -0100
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: T Shirts

Put me down for 2 xtra larges, all cotton, and low neck.

This puts me in mind of the Iceland Beerlovers Association. Don't make
their mistake. They ordered the "usual mix" of T-shirts and ended up with
lots and lots of S shirts. Seems nobody realized that beerlovers tend to
come in sizes like L, XL, XXL and so on.

Regards,

Ned Heite (Unashamedly an old fart)

P O Box 53
Camden, Delaware 19934 USA
Cut-Rate Archaeologist and Town Crank

   

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 21:42:27 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: generic rusting 

>Speaking of grease what type would you suggest.  I tried white lithium 
>on the door hinges but because they are external the lithium began to 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>clump.
>Lucas C.
I found white lithium grease to be superb. Living on the coast the sea spray 
here destroys the screws that deal with headlight mounting and allignment. 
Having learned that lesson with my first (2nd-hand) Russian Niva I sprayed the 
headlight surrounds on my 2nd (new) Niva with lithium grease. 4 years later I 
had to change a headlight for the first time and all of the small Phillips 
screws were in perfect condition. It works.
Allan
St. Lucia

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:06:16 -0500
From: hilltop <hilltop@advantage.ca>
Subject: Solicitation of Opinions from the All Knowing

Opinions solicited, preferrably knowledgable and/or intelligent but not 
essential; at least friendly though

   Harmless lunatic gentleman with Series I rover is experienceing the 
following problem with his 1997cc petrol motor.  While ideling the 
engine produces billowing blue cloud banks from the exhaust pipe.
   Big ones.
   Once on the throttle, accelerating (gathering speed), cruising etc. 
the condition is not apparent. But ideling or puttering along in low 
range first or second produces an apparant low-lying cumulous-nimbous 
effect.
   Compression is a consistent 120 lbs. on all four. He assumes this is 
not bad for an engine with 6.?:1 compression ratio. Inspection of this 
motor and another similar reveal no intake valve oil seals - is this 
normal? Also very poor oil drainage system from on top of head. Oil must 
flow up-hill to push-rod holes which are mostly filled with push-rods. 
   Any ideas as to which component of this engine is failing or is this 
a normal problem.
   Also, in the event that this engine is ever removed again, is it 
still possible to get a rear main seal? This one is harder than the 
crank.
   Feverishly awaiting your response.
				As ever your humble servent; Ronald

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:05:04 -0700
From: "Franklin H. Yap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Dielectric Grease

ericz@cloud9.net wrote:
> BTW, besides Ford, anyone know a good brand of dialectric grease available in
> the states (natural aversion to going to the dealer)

The mechanic at a LRNA dealer told me to just use any that was 
available from an auto store.  A small tube at a consumer auto supply 
(Grand Auto, Kragen on the West Coast) store costs about $4 but you can 
get a large can for about $15 from an auto supply store that supply stuff 
to auto repair shops.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:15:19 -0700
From: "Franklin H. Yap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: IIa help please (Dielectric Grease)

ericz@cloud9.net wrote:

> BTW, besides Ford, anyone know a good brand of dialectric grease available in
> the states (natural aversion to going to the dealer)

Forgot to add: The small tube I bought is made by Loctite Corporation.

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 22:57:58 PST
Subject: Re: A pile of Rovers??
From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R. Whitehead)

This pile is in Phoenix, Arizona. The guy who restored my Series IIA is
trying to sell out his yard, says he has the largest collection of
Series Is this side of the Mississippi. He is a pretty neat guy-has
worked on Land Rovers for 20+ years. His partner is in Oregon, thus the
Oregon address

Cheers

Chris W
1966 Series IIA 88"

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 23:05:10 PST
Subject: Re: Land Rover duds
From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R. Whitehead)

If you are still looking I can probably get you one -will take a bit of
time though as they come from a friend in Africa.

cheers

chris W

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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 23:03:32 PST
Subject: Re: A pile of Rovers??
From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R. Whitehead)

You wrote:
>About 3 and a bit years ago when I first started looking for a Series 
>vehicle, 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 36 lines)]
>PNWTT meet. 
>cheers,
>Jeremy

These vehicles and parts are there, and they are true, ask Rob Modica, he
saw them on Thursday when he and Gerry Elam went to see Marty

cheers

chris

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Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 00:02:06 -0700
From: "Franklin H. Yap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: IIa help please (Dielectric Grease)

> ericz@cloud9.net wrote:
> > BTW, besides Ford, anyone know a good brand of dialectric grease available in
> > the states (natural aversion to going to the dealer)

I forgot to add that the tube I bought was made by Loctite Corporation in 
the USA.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 22:57:39 -0700
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Swivel balls

At 10:07 AM 8/2/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I've been noticing a significant increase in the flow of 140W from both right
>and left swivel balls.  The rate's high enough to require topping off every
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>2. I plan to replace the balls at the same time I do the seals since they're
>showing significant pitting. Should I do any other items as long as I'm in
there?
>I've been noticing a significant increase in the flow of 140W from both right
Hi Nate.  I did mine earlier this year.  It is not "hard" as in requiring
skill or strength, but there are a number of parts to remove and they are
usually filthy to clean up and repaint, etc.  The job took me several
evenings, admittedly only working 1-2 hours a day.  Someone competent could
do it in a day.  You will need a hydraulic press to press the old swivel pin
out and press the new one in; I found one at a brake shop, cost $10. You'll
also need a pickle fork tool or similar to detach the steering arms from the
track rod.  You should probably plan on replacing swivel ball seals, pins,
and bushings; axle seal, hub seal and distance piece if suspect; and check
the hub inner/outer bearings and swivel ball bottom bearings.  It is enough
work to get in there that you might as well renew everything.  There are
various locking plates, etc., that you'll need too.  British Pacific sells a
swivel ball overhaul set with all the seals, locking plates, pins, etc. that
you will need (532268) but even then quiz them to make sure you're getting
everything needed.

I don't have much else to add about the procedure except to mention the
steps that puzzled me.  

First, the half-shafts may be unwilling to be extracted from the
differential.  There is no secret to this: longtime companionship has simply
worn the mating surfaces together.  Simply put the point of a big
screwdriver or similar in the UJ area of the halfshaft, brace the middle of
the screwdriver against the swivel housing, and tap on the handle with your
trusty mallet to lever the halfshafts out.  

Second, see the earlier thread about removing the distance piece from the
stub axle.

Third, your local plumbing shop has various pipe fittings that are just the
right size to tap the bearing out of/into the swivel housing, if you can't
do it with tools at hand.  (I was always afraid of skewing the bearings by
tapping first on one side and then the other etc.)

Fourth, the locking tabs on the stub axle attaching bolts go on with the
concave side facing the axle!

Fifth, fill the swivel housing with 90-wt oil, and do not pack the hub with
grease, although the bearings may as well have some grease in them "for
starters".

Sixth, tighten the hub bearing nuts only somewhat snug, since overtightening
"squeezes" the bearings.  The lock washer keeps either nut from loosening.
Some time ago someone (Terri Ann perhaps?) gave better instructions on
exactly how tight these nuts should be.

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Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 22:57:45 -0700
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: LA British Car Meet

At 04:12 PM 8/2/96 -0700, you wrote:
> The LROA has received notice of the LA British Car Meet coming up
> September 22.  It sounds much like the Palo Alto meet September 8, and
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>                            Sunday, September 22, 1996
<snip>

I've gone to the Woodley Park show the last two years.  It is held in a
large grassy park with shade trees.  There are usually 20+ Land Rovers and
British Pacific's booth, as well as all the other marques.  A British food
caterer sells bangers and mash and suchlike, there's entertainment, and the
cool grass is a nice place to kick back.  Nice show: see you there!  

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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 03:16:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Perry <rxq281@freenet.mb.ca>
Subject: TV sighting

No one else appears to have posted this, so I guess I will. During the 
CBC's Olympics coverage, a commercial for Sony camcorders had featured, 
in some very quick cuts a couple tearing across rugged Andes-type terrain 
in what appears to be an 86" SerI, well-worn and topless. Annoying 
commercial, nice old Land Rover.

Cheers

Mark Perry   Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
1966 Ser.IIA 88 Petrol Hardtop: Daily driver
"It's noisier on the inside"

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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:25:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Pull-Pal: Would a Danforth Anchor Work?

On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 Gregspitz@aol.com wrote:

> I finally got stuck in the mud with no trees around and
> Pull-Pal came in handy.  It is a foldable land anchor.

Would a large Danforth anchor work the same way? Pull-Pal is pretty
expensive. Other ground anchor suggestions?

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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 02:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: T-shirts?!

I've been away for 2 days and find about 80 messages about.....T-shirts.
>From LRO's who thought that discussion of Range Rovers, D90s and
Discos was too "plush" for the LRO list - so we got the CSO list.

T-shirts?! Jeez! Time for another list!

Suggested fabrics:

LRO list members: burlap
CSO members: velour

Projected sales of either of the above: zero.

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