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1 | landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi | 18 | Re: Series IIa electronic ignition |
2 | LRO Book Shop & The LRO | 19 | Sightings |
3 | daviscar@cris.com | 22 | Question on age |
4 | ericz@cloud9.net | 25 | Re: Sightings |
5 | ericz@cloud9.net | 23 | Re: Question on age |
6 | rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A | 13 | Re: Sightings |
7 | JDolan2109@aol.com | 21 | Frame dimentions... |
8 | "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi | 22 | Re: Frame dimentions... |
9 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 14 | Re: Question on age |
10 | Daniel McDonough [mcdono | 16 | Tow Rings, aka D-90 ear rings. |
11 | ericz@cloud9.net | 22 | Re: Tow Rings, aka D-90 ear rings. |
12 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 14 | Re: Frame dimentions... |
13 | Michel Bertrand [mbertra | 42 | Re: Frame dimentions... |
14 | JDolan2109@aol.com | 12 | Frame dimentions, correction |
15 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 25 | Re: Frame dimentions... |
16 | Stephen Brown [srbrown@s | 27 | Electronic ignition: REFERENCE |
17 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 28 | [not specified] |
18 | lopezba@atnet.at | 15 | Re: Steering box overhaul |
19 | ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi | 26 | Off Road Day |
20 | Paul Daintree [paul@wda. | 17 | re: series IIa electronic ignition |
21 | 12/4/95 [rsloan@titan.li | 30 | tools |
22 | "Magpantay, Larry" [lmag | 37 | OD |
23 | Ross & Kay [fax.rescue@h | 25 | MoD rovers 6x6 |
24 | "William L. Leacock" [75 | 47 | Military Land Rovers |
25 | hilltop [hilltop@advanta | 40 | Re: Series I Regulator |
26 | GJevne@aol.com | 12 | Michelin XCL Tires |
27 | GJevne@aol.com | 8 | Safari Gard |
28 | hilltop [hilltop@advanta | 19 | Source for Parts; new & used |
29 | John Hughes [hughes@acad | 11 | unsbscribe |
30 | Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs. | 25 | XD Defender |
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:58:05 -0400 From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice) Subject: Re: Series IIa electronic ignition Stephen Brown builds an electronic gizmo... >some circuit re-design I think. I'll be happy to give the exact >reference for the magazine article for the brave ones. If anyone's >interested let me know. Yup... I'm interested. Sounds like a good project to tinker with.. What was the magazine article?? Cheers Mike landrvr@blacdisc.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:08:23 -0400 From: LRO Book Shop & The LRO Shop <lroshop@idirect.com> Subject: Sightings My four year old daughter Philippa was the first to spot a Camel Trophy Discovery travelling east on Highway 401 across the top of Toronto on the afternoon of July 18th. She loves the Camel video from 95, will watch it in preference to Beauty & the Beast! It looked genuine, I can't imagine anyone buying a Discovery and converting it. We think it had an American plate rather than Canadian. Is there a street legal Camel Disco on the road in the US? Regards LRO SHOP BTW. Check out the LRO site at http://web.idirect.com/~lroshop/ Give us some feedback please on what you think and what you would like to see. How about a directory of articles from previous LRO magazines? ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: daviscar@cris.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Question on age Hi All I posted this to the list yesterday have not seen it yet so I am posting it again. I have someone telling me that the 109 was not availible in 1959 that that year was a 107. I say that the 107 was 1948 and that the 109 was introduced in 1959 Who is right? Bruce 67 SIIA 88 Patches WANTED pre 1968 109 In USA Daviscar@concentric.net Or BDaviscar@aol.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Sightings On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, LRO Book Shop & The LRO Shop <lroshop@idirect.com> wrote: >It looked genuine, I can't imagine anyone buying a Discovery and converting >it. We think it had an American plate rather than Canadian. Is there a >street legal Camel Disco on the road in the US? To continue the thread about CT Discos....I've heard that Rovers North had one up their way a little while back. Jeff Berg and I saw one on the way up to the Downeast as well. It was travelling West on I84 in northern Connecticut on top of a roll off car carrier. Even though it was a quick glimpse, it seemed pretty genuine....I think they're using them for auto shows. Rgds, _______________________________________________________________________ OVERLAND MOTORS...."EXPEDITION SPECIALISTS" 1075 Washington St. Land Rover - Range Rover - Discovery - Defender Peekskill, NY 10566 USA http://www.OverlandMotors.com Fax: (914) 734-4352 Phone: (914) 734-4333 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Question on age On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, daviscar@cris.com wrote: >I have someone telling me that the 109 was not availible in 1959 that that >year was a 107. I say that the 107 was 1948 and that the 109 was introduced >in 1959 There certianly was a 109 in '59....my father owns one. The 107 wasn't introduced until after 1948....don't have my reference books here but I'm sure someone with more coffee in their system will be able to remember the exact years. Eric _______________________________________________________________________ OVERLAND MOTORS...."EXPEDITION SPECIALISTS" 1075 Washington St. Land Rover - Range Rover - Discovery - Defender Peekskill, NY 10566 USA http://www.OverlandMotors.com Fax: (914) 734-4352 Phone: (914) 734-4333 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:58:45 +0100 From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi) Subject: Re: Sightings Regarding CT sitings . . . Could be the new disco LRNA has planned for limited distibution in US next year. I saw one at LRMW (a prototype I was told), that from a distance could be taken for a CT disco. Skid plates, roof rack, CT yellow paint job, blacked-out AL wheels. Dunno, but it could be. -Bob rvirzi@gte.com Think Globally. === +1(617)466-2881 === Act Locally! ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JDolan2109@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:06:48 -0400 Subject: Frame dimentions... Dixon wrote, concerning ex-MOD vehicles: "Frames may also be set up for the longer shackles." Dixon, do you perhaps have the dimensions for the bushing to bushing distance at the rear spring, for the frame mounted bushings? That's assuming its different? I've measured new frames and it seems to be 49 1/2 inches. Center to center. I've had chronic spring problems (shackle contacting frame at rear cross member), and mildly suspect that I could have one of those ex Mod frames from Canada under 'Nicky', in which case, the longer shackles could be what I really need to sort this out. Hopefully this will be the case, as my next step was going to be to remove/replace the rear frame mounted bushing holder to the 49 1/2 inch dimension. Thanks for any help... see 'ya on the old road... Jim '61 LR 88" SW w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?) "Nicky" LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:26:13 -5 Subject: Re: Frame dimentions... J Dolan asks: > Dixon, do you perhaps have the dimensions for the bushing to bushing distance > at the rear spring, for the frame mounted bushings? >From what I've ssen & read the frame mounts are the same distance apart. It's only the shackles themselves that are of different length, as on the 1ton 109's. Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research Madison,WI, USA 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@aae.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:50:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: Question on age On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 daviscar@cris.com wrote: > I have someone telling me that the 109 was not availible in 1959 that that > year was a 107. I say that the 107 was 1948 and that the 109 was introduced > in 1959 Depends what you are talking about. There was a Series I 109 pick-up. There never was a Series I 109 station wagon, just the 107. Series II vehicles were 88 and 109. They came about in 1958. ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:53:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Daniel McDonough <mcdonoug@cs.unm.edu> Subject: Tow Rings, aka D-90 ear rings. Thanks to a hard drive melt down, I lost the discussion about military tow rings for the D-90. Specifically, who in the US stocks them? I am not looking for the lift/tow rings, the ones that mount on top of the bumper and frame, but the ones that bolt on where the tie downs and the front skid plate do. Thanks, Daniel McDonough mcdonoug@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Tow Rings, aka D-90 ear rings. On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Daniel McDonough <mcdonoug@cs.unm.edu> wrote: >Thanks to a hard drive melt down, I lost the discussion >about military tow rings for the D-90. Specifically, [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >and frame, but the ones that bolt on where the tie downs >and the front skid plate do. I've got a couple sets in stock....$40 each Rgds, _______________________________________________________________________ OVERLAND MOTORS...."EXPEDITION SPECIALISTS" 1075 Washington St. Land Rover - Range Rover - Discovery - Defender Peekskill, NY 10566 USA http://www.OverlandMotors.com Fax: (914) 734-4352 Phone: (914) 734-4333 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:00:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: Frame dimentions... On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Tom Rowe wrote: > > Dixon, do you perhaps have the dimensions for the bushing to bushing distance > > at the rear spring, for the frame mounted bushings? > From what I've ssen & read the frame mounts are the same distance > apart. It's only the shackles themselves that are of different > length, as on the 1ton 109's. This is correct as far as I remember too. ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:10:38 -0400 From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca> Subject: Re: Frame dimentions... At 10:06 96-07-19 -0400, you wrote: >Dixon wrote, concerning ex-MOD vehicles: >"Frames may also be set up for the longer shackles." [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)] >next step was going to be to remove/replace the rear frame mounted bushing >holder to the 49 1/2 inch dimension. Thanks for any help... >see 'ya on the old road... Well, I'm not Dixon, but maybe I can help you out. I have a military 109 frame sitting in my garage in the process of rebuilding a 109. It has a distance of 45 1/2 inch between center to center. To find out if a 109 frame is military or not, just look at the spring mounts. If there are two sets of holes for the spring bolts, it's a military frame. On an 88 military frame, I have never seen the military shackles (about 2 inches longer than the standard ones). The frame is almost identical to a civilian one except for a few details: flat rear crossmember (better for the Jackall, in my opinion), shorter front outriggers (the bulkhead is not as wide as the civvie one) and a removable transmission crossmember (welcome to the 20th century), although I think that they were removable on the post-74 Ser III's (don't know when they switched) I would doubt that your 88 frame ever had or was designed to handle military shackles, but I could be wrong. Hope it helps, Michel from the Townships... Michel Bertrand Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 1963 109 PU (Rudolph) 1968 109 SW (in the works) 1973 88 SW (21st century project) mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address! ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JDolan2109@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:22:49 -0400 Subject: Frame dimentions, correction Ooops! I wrote that I measured 49 1/2 inches bushing to bushing on a new frame. I should have said 45 1/2 inches. And now I confused, so I guess I'll have to measure again. see 'ya on the old road... Jim '61 LR 88" SW w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?) "Nicky" LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:40:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: Frame dimentions... On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 JDolan2109@aol.com wrote: > to center. I've had chronic spring problems (shackle contacting frame at rear > cross member), and mildly suspect that I could have one of those ex Mod > frames from Canada under 'Nicky', in which case, the longer shackles could be > what I really need to sort this out. To start, military frames with the extensions for the longer shackles also have the holes to use normal, shorter shackles to be used. If you have a frame that can use the longer shackles all you have to do is see if the front of the spring is in the right place. If you have a civie frame, longer shackles in the rear will change the angle of the axle on the springs. This comes under the "not good for long term use" catagory. If your shackles are banging into the rear crossmember, what is the condition of your springs, or are you moving a pile of weight in the back of Nicky? ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:09:50 -0600 From: Stephen Brown <srbrown@sair020.energylan.sandia.gov> Subject: Electronic ignition: REFERENCE I've had a bunch of requests for the reference on the electronic ignition system I mentioned yesterday. The article is called "Build this solid state ignition system for your car" by Dick Page, Radio-Electronics, May 1976, pages 47,48,49,85. Good Luck! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /==============\ | `63 | IIa | Stephen Brown |______|_______| Geomechanics Department, MS-0751 /___/^^^^^^\___\9 Sandia National Laboratories |oo|(@)##(@)|oo| Albuquerque, New Mexico 87185 | | [####] | | ======%%%%====== email: srbrown@sandia.gov {*}={&&}====={*} {*} {*} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Question on age Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:06:17 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@ridgecrest.ca.us> In message <bulk.3786.19960719055001@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write: > I have someone telling me that the 109 was not availible in 1959 that that > year was a 107. I say that the 107 was 1948 and that the 109 was introduced > in 1959 Series I 107" Basic Models were built from 1955-1956 107" Station Wagons were built from 1956-1958 109" Basic Models were built from 1956-1958 Series II 109" models were built from 1958-1961. All of this is in the FAQ. http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/OVLR/FAQ.top.html (For the FAQ) http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/OVLR/FAQ.FAQ.3.LR_data.html (For this specific data) Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Benjamin Smith----------bens@ridgecrest.ca.us----------1972 Land Rover SIII 88 "...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entry from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere. He'd drive it up the Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..." --Kevin Archie ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:34:32 +0200 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Re: Steering box overhaul Mark - the summer issue of LROI had an article on steering box overhaul. Looking at that I would imagine your solution does not look too practical. If you don't have access to LROI, I can fax you the four pages (looks better with the colour pictures, though). Needless to say, the steering box is one of the most important items in your car as far as personal safety goes. Good luck and good Rovering Peter Hirsch SI 107in S/W Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1) ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:04:34 -0500 From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith) Subject: Off Road Day Dear Everyone who attended ECR's Off Road day on July 6. First of all, thanks for all the kind words about the eventglad you all had fun. Second, We here at the shop need some feedback from you, the people we put this event on for. In an effort to make next year even better, we want your suggestions on what was good, what was bad, what wasn't there you'd like to see, when you want it to take place, where to advertise the Off Road Day, ANYTHING! The event is only in its second year, and we know it can be improved, so give us your constructive comments, and what YOU want, and we'll us your imput to make things even better. Send the stuff to me directly at ecrover@midcoast.com Thanks! From: Mike Smith East Coast Rover Co. 207.594.8086 21 Tolman Road *Rt. 90* 207.594.8120 fax Warren, Maine 04864 ecrover@midcoast.com Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More Series Coil Chassis Specialists ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:13:06 +0100 From: Paul Daintree <paul@wda.u-net.com> Subject: re: series IIa electronic ignition hi, read about the electronic ignition. love to try it - i have a 1984 series III ex military lwb that sounds an ideal candidate if what you say about extra power are true, long inclines of about 10% can rob it of alot of speed, not that we have alot over here in england but on the motorways the artics can get unpleasent when your are only doing 40mph and they want to do 60mph. If you can, can you email a copy of the circuit and componats etc. or email me back and I will send my address for snail mail. thanks in anticipation. Andrew Daintree. ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:55:13 -0400 (EDT) From: 12/4/95 <rsloan@titan.liunet.edu> Subject: tools I'm leaving shortly on an expedition to dig up some amber in deepest darkest New Jersey, and am wondering if anyone has any good ideas about securing tools to their trucks. Last time, I just lashed the post hole digger down to the rear seat anchors and that seemed to hold it fairly steady, but all the shovels and picks kept removing themselves from their ties. I had them secured to sections of the roll cage but there are a number of ditches and burms to climb to get to the dig which proved too much for the ties. I'm bringing along some extra bodies for the dirty work so will need all the space I can get and also would like to keep everyone's heads nicely attached to their necks, so loose tools might prove very unfortunate! I would use hose clamps but haven't found any big enough. I've thought about attaching two or three together to get the necessary circumference but am wary of that technique. Also suggested to me were those plastic ties electricians use to bundle wires. They seem fairly sturdy...unfortunatly I am leaving before I will get a chance to get the list but any advice would be helpful for next time... In the past I just wrapped all the shovels and picks in a big soft blanket and put them along the rear wells, but with some long cases, a cooler and the people, I'm not sure if that will work, hence the suspension idea. Rich D90 #2948 (I guess mine's one of the last ones before they brought in those "last 500" and the next 500 yet to come and the next and the next...) ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Magpantay, Larry" <lmagpant@med1.medsch.ucla.edu> Subject: OD Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 12:54:00 PDT Hi ALL! Finally got my Ser III tranny fixed a couple of weeks ago and it's running great again, very quiet and no leaks! Replaced first & 2nd gear, 1st-2nd synchro and selector fork cause they're all worn out. Got all bearings and seals replaced. But when we opened the OD, it only had a tablespoon of oil, so the gears got fried. Didn't know that I was supposed to check oil level on the OD, what filler hole? Ooops! Tried looking for OD all over the nation and they're all back ordered. So I'd drive my truck on the fwy w/o OD, going 55-60mph, with cars lined up behind me unhappy. Apparently this guy bought an OD from British Pacific but he didn't read the instruction so he didn't remove the rear gear from the tranny when he was installing the OD. When he tightened the OD, the case cracked so he went and bought the last OD from British Pac., the one that I was going to buy! Got a call yesterday from Brit. Pac. & I was excited cause I thought they got their ODs in. But this guy who broke the first OD case is willing to buy my old OD for its case. Superwinch doesn't sell the case so he has to ship it to England to have it fixed which will be costly! I told BP that I'd be willing to buy this guy's OD at a top price so I can have one on my truck. BP said that a fair price for my OD case is $125. I was thinking this guy's got a brand new OD in his truck, it'll be nice if he would sell his cracked case OD to me so I can have one in my truck, that way we'll both be happy with OD. Originally, I was planning on buying a new OD and keeping my old OD and slowly over time rebuild it, I know it'll be more expensive. I don't know when the new ODs will be available since they're back ordered. Should I still try and offer this guy good price for his cracked case OD or should I just sell him my case? Comments & suggestions will be appreciated. Larry '73 Ser III SWB Petrol (Pastel Green) '94 NAS Def 90 #484 (Coniston Green) ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Ross & Kay <fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au> Subject: MoD rovers 6x6 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:58:41 +-1000 I have a 6x6 pic at http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~derf/swb/lrpv.html the 6x6 is just the thing for traffic jams and city parking hassles.. I'd give way to it! I have some brochures (really) if you want one. Available only in camo. I plan on getting a shot of the rear susp / chassis on a visit coming up in late August. Ross 11a 88 swb ckd Australian army GS 1964-1976 'castrol' http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~derf/swb/ _________________reply sep_____________ From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi) Regarding MoD rovers .... Last cool article showed an Aussie p-type 6x6 built to get some pacific rim military contract. Didn't get the contract but the truck was awesome. I'd love to see how the rear double axles work offroad.. ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 19 Jul 96 18:38:13 EDT From: "William L. Leacock" <75473.3572@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Military Land Rovers The differences between military and civilian land rovers are as varied as rovers are. Over the years LR built vehicles for the services to contract and specifications vary considerably. Series 1's had few changes, usally the towing attachments. In the early days of ser 2 the frames used a different rear cross member to give a slightly improved departure angles, otherwise standard, engines were predominantly petrol. 24 volt as an option for some duties, usually FFR ( fitted for radio )then an oil cooler was often fitted, Usually the under seat fuel tank filler, often twin tanks, usually the miltary standard lights, The lightweight and the 101 were developed exclusively for the services. The ambulance body was built by an outside contractor ( Marshalls ? ) In the late seventies as the cost of all the military differences were assessed the differences were reduced to the lights only on some contracts and the trailer wiring. Some 109's were offered with the 1 ton chassis. Most had a well treated chassis.( for the civilian aftermarket one of the best military special additions ) most were soft tops. bumperettes and lifting rings were often fitted. All kinds of paint schemes. There were variuos specials built for specific purposes, ie armoured, waders, portable, tractors, launch vehicles, LLama etc etc The newer 90 and 110 have only the lights and towing equipment changed Having said all this most of these options were also available for the civilian vehicles anyway. the only ones I can think off that were'nt were the rear crossmember, 24 v and the infra red lights. and some of the more specialised weapons mountings. I have used the word "most" deliberately, there are no options that were fitted to "all" military vehicles, I have seen a wide cross section of service vehicles of all wheelbases and body styles in the almost three decades that I have followed the marque and learned to appreciate the often unique nature of many and indeed owned and operated a lot of "one careful lady owner " vehicles. at the moment I have a 109. The military standard was also applied to other than the British or Nato forces with a large range of variations. Bob Morrison in land Rover owner has covered many of the variants. Don't agree with those who say trhey were well looked after, they used to throw them out of helicopters, drop overboard from ships, run over em with tanks, rob em for spare parts, use em for target practise, race em, rally em, etc etc, regards Bill Leacock Limey in exile ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:56:35 -0500 From: hilltop <hilltop@advantage.ca> Subject: Re: Series I Regulator Steve MARGOLIS wrote: Steve Margolis; That would be great! I've got it working by using an extra relay to switch the armature in and out but I'm sure that's not right. Seeing as how I live on a boat (42' wood Chris Craft circa 1953) snail mail is out there so here is my work address; Hilltop Computers 170 Brantwood Park Rd. Brantford, Ontario Canada N3P 1N7 Thanks for taking an interest. I've got a spare 1997 cc engine (1956) here and a 1958 88" I want to restore with non-rover engine but I could be talked into parting it out. If you ever need some computer assist give me a call. hilltop@advantage.ca Ronald re; I'll dig out my series 1 workshop manual and take a look. Probably the easiest way will be for you to send me your snail mail address, and I'll send photocopi Steve Steve Margolis Ithaca, NY > 1957 107 Station Wagon, Series I, Still in kit form in Maine (Damn!) > serial number 13470093 engine number 114707468 ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GJevne@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:51:48 -0400 Subject: Michelin XCL Tires Anyone interested in the (Camel Trophy) Michelin XCL tires? Safari Gard now carry them. They are 7.50X16R 8 ply tube type radial. We have 10 in stock. If interested call Greg Jevne at Safari Gard. Brandi Albright Safari Gard ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GJevne@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:01:15 -0400 Subject: Safari Gard Safari Gard's phone number is (909) 698-6114. We forgot to put the number in the e-mail regarding the Michelin XCL tires. ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:25:07 -0500 From: hilltop <hilltop@advantage.ca> Subject: Source for Parts; new & used Hello All; Just thought maybe some of you guys looking for parts, esp. older ones, may like to know my source here in the north. Paul Safari Components in Queenston, Ontario Canada. Queenston is just off the bridge (Rainbow I think) at Niagra Falls. Paul's a darn nice fella' if a little busy sometimes, has used vehicles for parts and sale, origional components etc. atc. He drives a military lightweight, LH drive I think, also has a cab forward in mint cond. and usually a few series or a RR in for repairs or sale. Worth a drive just to say "Hi" if you're in the area. Have a good one Ronald, 1956 86" - very used 1958 88" - in limbo (and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:22:54 -0700 From: John Hughes <hughes@academy.net.au> Subject: unsbscribe unsbscribee John Hughes hughes@academy.net.au -- JOHN HUGHES 107 Perseverance Road. VISTA 5091 Ph 61 8 2642430. South Aust. Fax61 8 2642430 ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:26:42 +1000 (EST) From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au> Subject: XD Defender Further to the recent post on the XD Defender I am curious to know if the spare wheel mounting on the body side is similar to that on the 6x6 Perentie long range patrol vehicle <URL:http://www.sofcom.com.au/4WD/Perentie/LRPV.html> which is recessed into the body, and that 6x6 vehicle does indeed have one spare on each side. It's rather neat although you could not easily fit larger wheels. This seems to be not uncommon on military vehicles and some of the Bushranger phase 2/3 <URL:http://www.sofcom.com.au/4WD/Mil/Aus/Bushranger.html> infantry mobility vehicle (ie APC) contenders use a similar position (also based on Unimogs .... Michael C' listening?) The 4x4 Perenties have also spawned a heavy duty descendant which won phase-1 of the oz army Bushranger project and I wonder if there is any connection with the XD. The Perentie has various chassis mod's from the D110 (even the 4x4). You can see Les Hiddens chugging around in one of the stn wgns on the *new* Bush Tucker Man series. Lloyd ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960720 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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