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1 Inkornoink@aol.com 10Re: D110 For Sale
2 Christophe Girardey [gir30Tires For Discovery
3 "BENJAMIN G. NEWMAN" [7114Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: team.net: no data known)
4 Craig Morgan [C.Morgan@s66I've done it now ...
5 cascardo@ix.netcom.com (33Re: D90 Accessories(top 10)
6 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob39Re: I've done it now ...
7 Treski@aol.com 24Re: D90 Accessories(top 10)
8 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob80Re: Guide for a Frame Over
9 PurnellJE@aol.com 23Re: D110 For Sale
10 "Kier M. Ouderkirk" [km_47alittle mudding
11 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo124Re: I've done it now ...
12 Harincar@mooregs.com (Ti68Frame Replacement Log, 16
13 Harincar@mooregs.com (Ti43LRO Shop Advertising
14 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE17I'm baaaaack
15 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A11To Jim Dolan - with apologies for the bandwidth...
16 kirkwood@strider.fm.inte20broken looking glass question
17 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 11Re: BBlist help me
18 Michael Carradine [cs@cr25D110 For Sale
19 Harincar@mooregs.com (Ti24Cooling capacity
20 "Lawrence B. Smith" [smi16Re: Rover Art
21 Robot10@aol.com 19Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
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23 David Place [dplace@SIRN6ubscribe
24 EAscensao@madinfo.tst.pt11Re: broken looking glass question
25 cyoungso@direct.ca (Chri10Saying goodbye...for a month
26 kelvinc@terrestrial.com 19Re: BBlist help me
27 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn16Re: lift door for tailgate
28 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn39Re: antique insurance
29 kelvinc@terrestrial.com 21Re: D90 Accessories(top 10)
30 James Carley [carley@man24Axle casing crack
31 Jan Ben [jib@big.att.com10off-roader article


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From: Inkornoink@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:19:59 -0400
Subject: Re: D110 For Sale

can I get the d110 post again from some one who saw it...thanks.

Hank Gregory
Inkornoink@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:26:26 +0200
From: Christophe Girardey <girardey@montrouge.ts.slb.com>
Subject: Tires For Discovery

Hello everybody,

I'am about to replace  my tires for the first time on my disco,
and I'am very disappointed to what can I put in place of my old
but very good Michelin XM+S 244 (205R16).( I precise that I use
them for what they are destined, i.e. Highway, road, rain, snow
and sometimes off-road but not very hard !!! )

- I Know that Michelin offers a completely new (but similar)
tire but, is it really similar ?
- I've heard about a new BFG Long Trail II. Is it a good
place-holder ?
- Is there any advantage to put much larger tires, and is it
possible on my 16" wheels ?

Any remarks or recommendations you can make would be helpful.

Thanks.

--
Christophe GIRARDEY ( Le Mée - France )
'92 Discovery with 200 TDi engine
Software Developper (Free-lance)
Internet   : girardey@montrouge.ts.slb.com
Compuserve : 100600.2265@compuserve.com

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Date: 29 Apr 96 07:52:31 EDT
From: "BENJAMIN G. NEWMAN" <71773.3457@CompuServe.COM>
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:50:52 +0000
From: Craig Morgan <C.Morgan@soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: I've done it now ...

Hi all,
	Well after months (nay, years really!) of talking about it I
finally took the plunge and put my money where my mouth was ... I'm now the
proud owner of a roadworthy (apparently!) '62 IIA 88" hardtop with a 2.25
petrol lump.

	I must be mad, but its going to be fun and undoubtedly expensive
over the next few years, what the hell ...

	Anyway, apart from some absolutely amazing wiring (the previous
owner must have had shares in 3M, judging by the number of connectors!),
it's drivable. It has 5 months to run on it's current MOT, but I'm debating
whether to use them up and then rebuild, or take it off the road now and
start the rebuild now. I'm leaning toward a quick fix of some problems and
enjoy the summer before rebuilding ...

	One or two questions :-

	Mine was fitted with a 2.25 diesel until approx. 18 months ago, at
which point the owner swapped in the alternative petrol lump, it runs well,
so I'm hoping it's good (done about 10k miles). My question is regarding
what type of replacement engine was fitted. On a quick scan yesterday, I
could'nt find any engine number (as I have'nt de-gunked it yet, I'm not too
worried), but the head is marked with an ERC5899CA code then a ringed name,
and a large number 5, just above the exhaust ports. Any ideas?

	So far the transmission feels/looks/sounds quite good. It leaks,
like there's a surprise! Anyway, I'll know more when I get it up on the
stands in the next day or two.

	According to the VIN I found mines quite an early IIA (24100616A),
and my plans basically at this point are a strip and rebuild (the chassis
looks real good so far), re-bush, re-springing (the diesel springs are
wrong and are shot), re-wire (new loom for sure!), steering and brakes need
some work, mainly drift on the steering and poor brakes (maybe I'll go for
SIII servo'd setup).

	I'm sure that the body then needs work, the bulkhead is ex-army I
think, maybe even SIII, and will need patching (not footwells or door
hinges, which seem to be sound!), and a new dash, the current is a horrible
wood thing! My intention being to make it a soft-top with a full length
canvas (I'll freeze ;-), as the HT is a fibreglass affair.

	Anyway, any advice for a mad Welshman, contemplating many long dark
cold nights rebuilding his dreams! BTW, any body want a fibreglass HT, two
fibreglass rear doors, and maybe a nice bullbar (flat Simbar I think), I
might be persuaded to part with them ...

--
Craig

                            ,,,   Wot, NO mountains!
 ======================oOO=(o o)=OOo===================================
  Craig Morgan              (_)      Senior Lecturer, CS Group
  School of Computing                Email: C.Morgan@soc.staffs.ac.uk
  Staffordshire University           Phone: +44 (0)1785 353466
  Beaconside                         Fax:   +44 (0)1785 353497
  Stafford, UK  ST18 0DG             Pager: +44 (0)839 453754

  "It's the downhill thrills, that make the uphill slog worthwhile..."
 ======================================================================

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:24:11 -0700
From: cascardo@ix.netcom.com (Lucas Andres Cascardo)
Subject: Re: D90 Accessories(top 10)

You wrote: 
>Top Ten Accessories:

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
>7-Mantec Snorkel
>8-Full skid plates ( eng. guard, front and rear diff covers, tranny 
and
>trans. case    protector, gas tank plate, side door sill plates)
>9-A good CB
>10-roof rack with brush guard cables
> E-mail me if you have any questions, or if you want to discuss  

Defender 90s
>or 110s!!
>9-A good CB
Hello,

I have some questions about some of your items.  The Mantec Snorkel, 
where do you get it and is it similar to the Raised Air Intake Assembly 
offered by Rovers North (their intakes are for Series LRs).  Also for 
the roof rack w/ brush guard cables, which would you suggest and what 
are brush guard cables.
I usually shop through Rovers North do you have other suppliers.

Thanks for your help,

Lucas Cascardo '95 D90 SW
Boston 

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:20:57 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: I've done it now ...

>>Hi all,
 Well after months (nay, years really!) of talking about it I
finally took the plunge and put my money where my mouth was ... 

Hmm. Your mouth went down the drain too, I suppose? :)

>> I must be mad, but its going to be fun and undoubtedly expensive
over the next few years, what the hell ...

Welcome to the club. We were into mad cow disease before it was "hip"...

>> Anyway, apart from some absolutely amazing wiring (the previous
owner must have had shares in 3M, judging by the number of connectors!),

They used connectors? Very attentive...

>>...snip... take it off the road now and
start the rebuild now. I'm leaning toward a quick fix of some problems and
enjoy the summer before rebuilding ...

'tis what I did, only I drove it for few months before admitting it needed a 
rebuild, so now I'm doing the rebuild over the summer...good to drive it for a 
while i think, you get a sense of how much fun it is, which will probably be 
your only motivating force by the time you're done rebuilding.

>> Anyway, any advice for a mad Welshman, contemplating many long dark
cold nights rebuilding his dreams! 

Don't buy anything for the next three years

Cheers
Dave Bobeck
SIII SWB
Washington DC

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From: Treski@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:14:56 -0400
Subject: Re: D90 Accessories(top 10)

In a message dated 96-04-29 10:57:22 EDT, you write:

>Hello,
>I have some questions about some of your items.  The Mantec Snorkel, 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
>Thanks for your help,
>Lucas Cascardo '95 D90 SW
>Boston 

Lucas--  Yes, the Mantec Snorkel is like the one RN offers for Series Rovers,
except it was designed for the NAS 90 and 110.  You can get them in England
from Mantec.  You can find that ph # in  either  LRO or LRW magazines.  Brush
guard wires are what Camel Trophy trucks have.  they are simply cables
running from the brush guard to the top of the roof rack.  These effectively
prevent trees and branches from smashing in to your windshield.      More
Questions?     e-mail me       

Tre McCroskey   '93  110

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 08:57:01 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Guide for a Frame Over

Books which are a must are a Parts Catalog for Series IIA and Work Shop
Manual....
Good Luck

Mike

The parts catalog sounds like a good idea...

Well, the deed is done...

This Saturday, I drove the Green Car, my '72 SeriesIII 88, from Washington DC to
a small garage in Riverdale MD. This would be it's last journey on it's original
chassis. Ron O'day and I made the drive out, him following in his 74 SIII. We 
ate breakfast and sat about, getting the garage ready and waiting for our 
"guests to arrive. Around 10 am we were joined by Larry Smith from Virginia and 
his friend Ron Swindell. Larry has a Series III that is one month older than 
mine, and Ron is looking for a 109 Station Wagon. We took a few last snapshots 
of the Green Car, and then set upon the old girl with our tools of destruction. 
The first order of business was to grind off the frozen, rusted lock that held 
the tire on the bonnet. A symbolic act indeed. Next came the bonnet itself and 
then the rear door and roof. Moving along swiftly, we were joined by Bill Adams,
whose arrival was signaled by the high compression clanking of his 109 diesel 
station wagon. Bill's 109 is a nice example and served us well during the course
of the day, as it was pressed into service for "hauling meat". That's Roverspeak
for going to pick up pizza. Anyway, Bill was delighted by the opportunity to 
tear into a vehicle without having to think about putting it back together, so I
assigned him to remove the seatbox. His first comment was, "Gee Dave, your frame
really sucks!" His enthusiasm was quickly washed away :) and replaced with 
comments such as, "I'm never doing this for you again, Bobeck". Hopefully he 
won't have to! Col. Smith and the two Rons continued to work on the rear tub, 
which after a little huffing and puffing came away nicely. I was still fussing 
about with the wings and various other details. I basically felt like I was in 
the way as these trained killers descended on my poor little Green Car. The 
bulkhead mounting bolts proved to be fairly difficult, and neither one of them 
came off without taking part of the frame or bulkhead along with it. The bottom 
mounting points of both doorposts chose to remain with the frame. Next, it was 
on to the driveshafts, and then Bill did a fine job rigging up the engine and 
gearbox to the hoist, and out they came. We started Bill's video camera rolling 
as Ron S. fired up the Oxy/Acetylene rig to cut through the spring hangers and 
U-Bolts. Soon both axles were sitting on the drive, and the last item was the 
steering relay, which refused to leave its hole in the frame, so we chopped out 
that section and I'll take it somewhere to have it pressed out. At last, all the
panels were stowed away up in the rafters, and the old rotted hulk that used to 
be my daily driver =:-o sat forlorn in the driveway. 
One highlight of the day was when a fellow with a late model GM sedan stopped by
to ask if any of us did bodywork, and we responded by brandishing a large hammer
and asking him to tell us what he needed. He got a little advice from Larry 
after we stopped laughing and then drove off, probably glad to be leaving. 
Overall the process took about 8 hours, including a little standing around and a
good lunch break, and I can't even begin to imagine what it would have been like
to attempt this myself or with just one other person. Mr. Swindell's torching 
abilities were crucial and I'm sure he was quite happy for the opportunity. 
Everybody paid lots of attention to detail, replacing bolts in their hole where 
possible, and marking wires which were to be separated. I did find few odd bolts
on the ground while sweeping up, but that's where the Land-Rover "adventure" 
philosophy kicks in.

So this week, after I find a place to live for the next year (first things 
first) I'll start up again. I've got to finish painting the frame and get the 
axles cleaned up and painted, then get everything rolling and start running 
brake lines and take the radiator(s) in and get the last few parts I need and 
rebuild the gearbox and weld up the bulkhead and...stay tuned.

Thanks to Bill Adams, Ron Swindell, Larry Smith and Ron O'Day for lending a hand
where it was desperately needed, and for Chris Stevens who has been kind enough 
to share some of his equipment. Mark Talbot and Dave Mckain who provided tons o'
parts, and all others who have inspired me to do something this ridiculous.
I wont go into detail as far as how many slabs were consumed, but lets just say 
I owe the guys a few.

Cheers
Dave "Who are these people and why am I letting them take apart my car?" B.
72 Series III SWB, "almost finished"
89 Honda Civic "Daily driver again, parts runner still"
Washington DC

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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:30:53 -0400
Subject: Re: D110 For Sale

>can I get the d110 post again from some one who saw it...thanks.
>Hank Gregory
>Inkornoink@aol.com

Hank, I deleted the post, but worked in the same office as the guy posting
the ad, here is his email address:

aj536@lafn.org

name: Mike.

I used to see the D110 every morning when I picked Mike up for carpool.  Kind
of inspired me towards my D90.   I never saw mud on those big tyres...

John P.
Madison, WI
D90

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:38:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kier M. Ouderkirk" <km_ouderkirk@sunyit.edu>
Subject: alittle mudding

I love mud season in New York.
 Started out without the Land Rover from college(did not want to hurt my 
baby which has a mint body or should I say HAD a mint body). We took a 87 
Nissan and a 86 Toyota which has a lift kit along with a few cases of 
beer.  We started down a muddy trail with mud and beer flying everwhere. 
But the trip was short(only about a 1/4 mile and the Toyota was stuck 
nose first in a culvert with the back wheels about 4 ft in the air. The 
nissan which I was riding in did not have the ability to pull it out. So 
every one turned to me because they knew I had a Rover. So we turn the 
Nissan around and back to school we went without the Toyota. I got into my 
1970 IIA 88 after engauging the lock outs and off to through the mud I 
went. We tried hooking both the Rover and the Nissan together to the 
Toyota. We still could not move him out. We where in the bottom of a 
gully so either way we pulled it was up hill in slick mud. I look at my 
winch on the front of my Rover which does not work but does has a 100ft 
of cable. I ended up driving through the gully(almost did not make it) up 
the other side to the top of the hill and unwinding the cable and used it 
as a big tow chain. It worked I pulled the toyota out all by myself. 
after getting the nissan across the gully we all headed down the power 
line service trail. (Lots of Mud) The Rover was needed one more time to 
pull the Toyota off a fallen tree that he thought he could get over. End 
up destroying his bumper trying to push him over the tree. No damage to 
mine (and there are a few of you that know what my bumpers look like). 
We where about 5 miles back when we decided to go back. All of us raced 
back and almost over a cliff that no one would have survived. Quick 
shift in reverse and we saved ourselves. I then proceded to clean my 
pants out. After we all got back to college with all of our vehicles 
cover with mud so that the color was undectable and no beer. We ascess the 
damages. The Rover took a beaten. I kind of destroyed the sill under the 
driver door. Their aint much left of it. And I also lost my stainless steel 
exhust system. Actual I have it but it is in the back seat. It did not 
matter though I had a good time. The guys all thank me for my Rover 
because triple A would not have pulled him out. Once again a Land 
Rover saves the day or should I say Land Rovers Rule. Hey thats what my 
Lic plates say.
				
			
					Happy Rovering
					Kier Ouderkirk
					1970 IIA 88
					3.54 diffs
					Lic # LRS RULE

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:34:31 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: I've done it now ...

Craig Morgan wrote:
> Hi all,
>         Well after months (nay, years really!) of talking about it I
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> might be persuaded to part with them ...
> --
> Craig

Have a covered, heated place to work, buy stock in WD40 or liquid wrench, practice your 
drilling-out-bolt technique and label and save every scrap of metal that you take 
off or comes off: you'll never know when some rusted out piece of junk is no longer 
available.

Good Luck!

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar-MS)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:46:52 -0500
Subject: Frame Replacement Log, 16

Log 16

Little stuff. Three nights were lost because I had to take an
unscheduled business trip to Knoxville. I would have tried to get
together with someone from the list, but I didn't have enough time to
prepare properly. Oh well...

I spent a couple nights removing and re-attaching the throttle
linkage. Here's a tip for those replacing their bulkhead - put as much
of the linkage as you can on the bulkhead *before* attaching it to the
frame. Working around the motor made it take twice as long. I also
took this opportunity to tighten it all up. I had some slop in the
linkage before - the only time it would drop to idle is if I put my
foot under the pedal and lifted - and it would stick, too. So I hope
now it will behave much smoother. The PO's idea of lubricating the
linkage was to periodically hose it all down with WD40, so it had a
really nice coating of dirt and grime on it...

I attempted to but the parking brake assembly back on, but the frame
has a different attachment style for the linkage :-( So, for now, I
too will be without a handbrake. Fortunatly, I didn't use it much
anyway, but I'll toss a wheel chock in the back just in case. I'll
likley need to rebuild the whole brake anyhow, and replace the seal
while I'm at it, so maybe later in the summer.

I also put the driver's footwell plate on, and attached the master
cylinders. I replaced the pedal pads on all three, and painted the
pedal arms, too. New return springs as well.

Once the cylinders were on, I ran the last two hard lines. I need to
attach the new reservoir next, but I'm still waiting for a line from
RN. Sigh...

Oil pressure and temp guage was reinstalled and connected. Had to put
a new hole in the bulkhead for that. I'm going to have more holes in
the bulkhead - I'm never going to be warm next winter (or this summer,
if things don't improve soon - highs only around 50 for last week and
this one).

In-line fuel filter was changed.

Radiator and breakfast were assembled and reinstalled. That lower hose
is a pain in the bum to put on. Another tip - if the radiator is off,
attach the hose to the water pump *first,* then put the radiator on
and attach the hose to the radiator. It would have made it a lot
easier to do it in that order. Breakfast got a new bonnet cloth strip.

Top and windshield go back on tonight. Then its flush & fill the
cooling system and, god willing, fire it up for a test check (if the
battery isn't dead). Obviously, no test driving until I get the brakes
done :-(

Wings are next, and I'm looking for an aluminum shop to repair
corrosion damage (to the mudshield mounts).

Getting close.

Tim
 ---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 Iia 88 SW

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From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar-MS)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:14:37 -0500
Subject: LRO Shop Advertising

Hi all,

So far I've recieved two advertisments from LRO shop via email (as I'm   
sure most of you have as well, given the 'to' list in my header).

I for one have sent a polite but firm request to be removed from this   
list. I suggest others to do the same if you find this annoying. More   
importantly, however, I find this a gross misuse of the the 'who' list   
for the group, or even just skimming the email addresses from the posts,   
whichever they are doing.

I think we ought to consider if the 'who' list should be available to   
just anyone. This was discussed a short time ago, I know, but it seems to   
be getting worse quickly.

My personal opinion is that all advertisments of a commercial nature   
should be done either through the list itself (if we agree thats   
acceptable), or via the web. I think Mike Smith is a pretty good example   
of a person who can maintain a corporate presence without it being   
advertising. His saying "Hey everyone, I got a couple of used frames if   
anyone is in the market..." is not really considered a 'commercial' as   
much as posting useful information. Plus, Mike is a *contributor*, and to   
me that means he gets a lot more credit and a lot more slack if he did   
want to plug his business.

If the LRO shop posted a note saying "Hi everyone, we now have copies of   
a guide to driving accross africa. Send email or hit this web page for   
all the details." or somehting similar under about 4 lines, that would be   
acceptable to me.

Comments?

Tim
 ---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW  

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:07:22 GMT -0600
Subject: I'm baaaaack

So, what did I miss?
Ok, ok, I'll retrieve the digests.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 29 Apr 96 14:00:26 EDT
Subject: To Jim Dolan - with apologies for the bandwidth...

Jim,

Ever find the half-shafts?

  Al Richer

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From: kirkwood@strider.fm.intel.com (Clayton Kirkwood)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:28:11 -0700
Subject: broken looking glass question

Having no eyes in the back of my head, I have occasion to use the
windshield mirror on our Discovery. Unfortunately, I am now looking
at a blank spot where the mirror used to be: it fell off. I was
wondering if anybody had any suggestions for reattaching it besides
going to the dealer. The original adhesive is a sticky variety
(obviously not sticky enough). I just tried to readjust the
mirror!!

Is an epoxy appropriate, or should I go with something like RTV?

I saw the word LUCAS imprinted in the glue...

-- 
Clayton R. Kirkwood, FM1-58, 916 356-5838

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:09:08 -0400
Subject: Re: BBlist help me

Trevor: The LRO digest has been coming to me somewhat sporadically. Ive
missed a few days since about 4/16 for no good reason I can tell. I thought
traffic may be way down and they were waiting for more volume but the latest
digests have only contained about ten or less postings. I ve seen various
querries about it but no explaination. cheers. Andy

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:05:47 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: D110 For Sale

 Here is a primo D110 looking for a caring home,

        D110, 1993, #5 of 500, White
        26,000 miles, never off-road
        Condition 9-1/2 to 10
        located in Wichita, Kansas
        Asking $48,000
        (turned down dealer offer of $43K)

 Email your name, location, phone and best time
 to call back.  Owner is not net-connected.

 Cheers,

                         ______
 Michael Carradine       [__[__\==                    Rumpole of the Bay
 510-988-0900            [________]               Land-Rover Roughmobile
 cs@crl.com  __________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^  '65 IIA 2.235m (was 88")
 _______________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover 4x4 Connection WWW page:   http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar-MS)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:11:55 -0500
Subject: Cooling capacity

I need to know what the total capacity of the cooling system is in a   
normal 2.25 petrol system, give or take because I won't be installing my   
heater right away. I want to flush my system, and (because you're using   
just water) the instructions say to then add enough straight anti-freeze   
to give the correct mix (and I assume the circulation flow will mix the   
liquids).

can you tell I've never done this? :-) The haynes manual lists 18.5 imp   
qts as the capacity for the radiator - how much more for the rest of the   
block, and what the difference between an imp. qt. and a US qt.?

thanks,

Tim
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tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW  

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:57:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Lawrence B. Smith" <smithl@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Re: Rover Art

Heather,

If you find a source, please let me know.  I have scanned some black & white
line drawing in as my windows background and for a "business" card, but they
are pretty crude.  Would like something better, esp. in the Series vehicles.

Thanks in advance.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA
'72 SWB Petrol - Grover

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From: Robot10@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:38:57 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Hello! I'm quite new to this, so by all means be gentle. I'm tentatively in
the market for an 1967 (approx) vintage 109. I want a 6 cyl. I am going to be
doing a great deal of highway driving. My daily commute is about 110 miles,
and I only offroad about once a year for three weeks. I have been informed
about overdrives, galvanized frames, broken axles, wimpy heaters, and the
like. I want any info anyone can give me about where to start looking for
basket cases I may be able to rebuild. I live in Indiana, closer to Chicago,
IL than anywhere. I am willing to travel for parts. I want to build a 200,000
mile plus vehicle. I have access to a nearly infinite variety of machine
tools. Anyone who can help or direct a virgin, please write at:

Robot 10@aol.com
Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 01:50:21 +0200
From: sm095re@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Kurt Reinhardt)

get lro-digest 290496

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:45:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: ubscribe

subscribe lro dplace@SirNet.mb.ca

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From: EAscensao@madinfo.tst.pt
Subject: Re: broken looking glass question
Date: 30 Apr 1996 01:49:48 GMT

None of this would happen if your Land Rover was a true one. Land Rover Seies
I, II and III have the mirror securely attached and without any kind of glues
.... try screws and bolts  :-)

Ed

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Date: 	Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:13:28 -0700
From: cyoungso@direct.ca (Chris Youngson)
Subject: Saying goodbye...for a month

Well I'm off to the UK tommorow, thus I'm unsubscribing from the lists for a
month.
I'll be back June 3. Talk to you then. 73, Chris

PS. Those of you who will be at the ARC rallies, I'll see you there.

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:04:30 -0700
From: kelvinc@terrestrial.com (Kelvin Crezee)
Subject: Re: BBlist help me

I am getting the digest daily but it is alot smaller than before the Mailer
Deamon hit.  I receive between 15 and 35 per day but even just 1 mo. ago I
was receiving up to 80 or so e-mails a day.  Don't know what to tell you but
there was some talk about a digest split and maybe that occured without us
knowing.

Puzzled too, 

Kelvin Crezee
AZ LRO D90

Kelvin Crezee

kelvinc@terrestrial.com

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:37:51 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: lift door for tailgate

TeriAnn, why not have both the rear door and a "tailgate" seat -- put on 
a full door, but also build a seat that would fold up and be held in 
place by the door.  This could be anything from a simple wood platform to 
a complete seat bottom.  Something to think about anyway.  

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Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:37:24 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: antique insurance

> My InsCo (State Farm) will write me an antique policy, but they
> won't do it on "agreed value" - they want my cars appraised.

> What is the cheapest way to get an appraisal?  

There's no cheap way to do it; it will probably cost you $125 - 150.  You 
need to get a real (certified) appraiser to do it.  What helps is if you 
do as much of the legwork yourself as you can.  Here's what I did:

Get any local "experts" (club officers, mechanics, notable 
LR personalities) to write you a letter stating what they think it's 
worth.  

Save and highlight any adverts for vehicles similar to yours.  Ask BP, 
RN, ABP, etc. for their lists of vehicles for sale.  Check local ads.  
Make copies of past Aluminum Workhorse listings of vehicles for sale.

Make a list of features of your vehicle that add value to it, and, if 
possible, document their exact value.  For example, items such as a 
Winch, overdrive, or 10-cd changer increase your vehicle's value. 

The more of this sort of thing you can push in his face, the better.  It 
makes the appraiser's job that much easier, which means he may not charge 
you as much, and will be more likely to come up with the amount you're 
looking for.

Hope this helps!

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Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:04:22 -0700
From: kelvinc@terrestrial.com (Kelvin Crezee)
Subject: Re: D90 Accessories(top 10)

>Top Ten Accessories:

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>trans. case    protector, gas tank plate, side door sill plates)
>9-A good CB
>10-roof rack with brush guard cables

Treski, what is a Kinetic Suspension? And who are the makers of Super
Swamper Tires, do they fit standard LRO rims?

Kelvin Crezee
AZ LRO D90  

Kelvin Crezee

kelvinc@terrestrial.com

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 16:26:59 EST
From: James Carley <carley@manly.civeng.unsw.EDU.AU>
Subject: Axle casing crack

The front differential casing of my 1985 110 has a small hairline
crack in the vicinity of where the bulbous front cover of the 
differential is joined (welded?) to the housing, below the oil level.

It was first noticed as an increased oil leak (pool on ground). 
At first I thought it was the pinion seal, which I knew did have a
very minor leak, however after a cleanup I found this small weeping
crack (~15 mm/ half inch long) only noticeable by the oil leaking 
from it.

What can I do?  Someone told me to file it out a bit and fill with
"DEVCON" an epoxy based metal filler.  Is the metal anything special
with respect to welding (my preferred option structurally).

Thanks

James Carley
Sydney, Australia
'85 110

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:56:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jan Ben <jib@big.att.com>
Subject: off-roader article

sorry to X-post, will keep it short...
does anyone have a copy of the article on Rover v8 motors in the
recent "off-road" ("4x4"?) magazine?
Thanks
Jan in US

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