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1 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u29Re: Hello? & LR question..
2 Owen Sayers [osayers@POS29Re: Hello? & LR question..
3 chrisste@clark.net (Chri12Series Question-Transmission Brake
4 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u33Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"
5 Danny Phillips [danny@tl9Re: leaf springs
6 [mr@grant.media-gn.nl> 38[not specified]
7 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi14come in, come in, over...
8 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE29Re: Series Question-Transmission Brake
9 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em22Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"
10 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE26Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"
11 Vel Natarajan [nataraja@37Re: basic charging/electrical questions
12 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE25Re: U-joint
13 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em18Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"
14 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE22Re: crash tests...
15 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE33Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"
16 slade@sisna.com 38Caustic Castrol (brake fluid)
17 rthomas@postoffice.ptd.n25Re: Series Question-Transmission Brake
18 Andrew Howton [ahowton@a20Imaginative jack use
19 David Olley at New Conce31Re: Who's going to the ARC nationals?
20 A5703644603@attpls.net (20K&N air filter
21 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob27Happiness is...
22 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A22Re: Happiness is...
23 "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@27Re: Happiness is...
24 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob15Re[2]: Happiness is...
25 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em16Re: Happiness is...
26 slade@sisna.com 22Re[2]: Happiness is...
27 "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@31Re[2]: Happiness is...
28 "Jakob Christensen" [vel19RE: K&N air filter
29 Jose Trisotti [jtrisott@11Santana
30 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE28Re: Re[2]: Happiness is...
31 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@AE.AGE24unsubscribing
32 "Stephen H. King" [reneg27D90 return in '97
35 rover@pinn.net (Alexande19Gearboxes
36 Sekerere@aol.com 19Traceability


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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Hello? & LR question..
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 12:30:22 BST

Probably not, because its the only bit of the manual which is in
bureaucratic wibble - with lots of cross-referenced paragraphs which
seem to just repeat themselves. There is a strict order to things though:
destroy special equipment and radio equipment (strict order of heads first,
followed by transmitter then receiver), disable/destroy engine, hatchet job,
dowse with fuel, then light with an incendary grenade or artillery piece.
If doing the latter at short range , you are recommended to take cover!  :-)

> Judging from the LR owners I see driving on my site, that's the primary =
> use (source of pleasure??). Smash it to unrecognisable bits, get out the =
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> weekend's driving. It's a kind of alternative motorsport - Sky Sports =
> will probably start showing it soon (they show everything else).

I acquired a few scratches and a dent from a roundabout if that counts!
Managed to get rid of most of the dent (which also pushed the front of the
wing across a tad), with a jack(!), but I still have a dent just behind
the corner. Club hammer is useless, unless I can get the panel off.

This is my main (infact, only) vehicle, so when I start taking it off-road,
I'll be avoiding anything vaguely dangerous!

Richard

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From: Owen Sayers <osayers@POST.Almac.Co.UK>
Subject: Re: Hello? & LR question..
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:12:23 +-100

Richard Marsden (marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk) wrote:

>Its worth having an ex-mil vehicle, just for the MoD User Handbook!
>(incl. a chapter on how to destroy the vehicle in the face of an =
advancing
>enemy)

No self respecting squaddy would need a book for that, surely......? =
Judging from the LR owners I see driving on my site, that's the primary =
use (source of pleasure??). Smash it to unrecognisable bits, get out the =
spanners/socket set/welder (depending on the owners technical expertise =
or "destructive abilities") and put it back together for the next =
weekend's driving. It's a kind of alternative motorsport - Sky Sports =
will probably start showing it soon (they show everything else).

Owen Sayers
"Central 4x4 Off-Road Driving Centre"
Philpstoun South
Scotland

"The sure conviction that we could if we wanted to is the reason so many =
good minds are idle."
G. C. Lichtenberg

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:09:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Series Question-Transmission Brake 

Advice Please. I've got some stuff (oil) dripping from the transmission
brake on the 88". Is this the output shaft oil seal that is leaking? If so,
how difficult of a repair is it and should I replace anything else while
I'm in there?

Chris Stevens
Towson, MD

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 8:49:20 BST

> Seriously though, the 109 SW is the only Series LR that has enought room and 
> accesibility for yourself and five kids.  The problems that arise have to do 
> with size and weight.  The 109 is correspondingly larger...hence it has a larger 

<etc>
You could always get a 109 hardtop and station-wagon it - change the seats,
add seatbelts and perhaps doors.
I've heard that the 109 is more comfortable, but I haven't taken mine off-road
*yet*. If you're worried about power, you could always V8-it, or look for
a Stage 1.

As for 109 Load-Space - I discovered how useful it was tonight - I can fit
my jack length-ways, and still have room for toolboxes at the end!!
Speaking of which, can I claim the most imaginative use of a jack award for
this week (pushing dents out of a front wing)?   :-)

> >	Is there a power steering conversion available or would that 
> >really be a waste?  (I like the mile marker hydraulic winches thet use 
> >the power steering pump to run it!)  Maybe I should stick with the the 
> >thought of the PTO Koenig.
> Don't bother.  The standard steering on a LR is not that bad and the 

I learnt to drive in a Fiesta, and I'm having no trouble (bar the oversized
turning circle, but you get used to it). Besides, you can then bragg that
power-steering is for wusses!   :-)

Richard

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From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk>
Subject: Re: leaf springs
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 11:00:38 BST

dear all, i am sure that lro or lrw have done an article on sorting out old springs.

danny p

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Subject: Re: Testing the load leveler on a RR
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 14:32:23 -0000
From: <mr@grant.media-gn.nl>

>Personally, I always wonder whether mine is working right too, as I don't 
>notice much "pumping up" action happening -- but I think the effect is 
>fairly minor in real life. I've never tried the 1,000 lb test.

I had to move all of my extra wheels (6x 7.50XCL and 5x COOPER 
somethings) and had them stuffed (plus some extra load) in the back of my 
110 StaWag Diesel. I noticed that there was no more than half an inch of 
clearance between the axle and the bumpstop and when I went for a ride to 
check if my Landy would level, but no way! When turning a corner I felt 
immedeatly that the car did not lean over, thus I think the load-leveler 
doesn't work.

Is it the only way to try new springs?

When I go on a vacation-trip I take lots of goods and food with me, but I 
would have a comfortable ride though...........

Any answers?

Marc Rengers
Groningen, Holland
mr@grant.media-gn.nl

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:51:54 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: come in, come in, over...

subscribe lro digest

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:03:00 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: Series Question-Transmission Brake 

 Chris Stevens asks:

> Advice Please. I've got some stuff (oil) dripping from the transmission
> brake on the 88". Is this the output shaft oil seal that is leaking?
Most likely. It's quite easy. If you ahve a shop manual, at least get 
a Haynes manual, you'll see it a piece of cake.

> If so, how difficult of a repair is it and should I replace anything else while
> I'm in there?
-
Anything else "while you're at it"? That's a *very* dangerous 
proposition. Actually, the main thing is to inspect the output flange 
seal area. If it's grooved, get thee to a bearing/seal shop and get a 
Speedie-Sleeve for it.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:26:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"

On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 ericz@cloud9.net wrote:

> Not at all....according to my book here; the Station Wagon overall length is 
> 180.3 inches while the regular is 174.8 inches.  Assuming that I'm not 
> forgetting some station-wagon specific appendage....the difference would be 
> made up in the rear overhang.  Although the change in departure angle is not 
> enormous...it is significant. 

	My book has them both at 175", but with yours, I fail to see where
	the five inches of difference lie.  The frames are basically the same, 
	(the sw frame has more outriggers) so the overall length must be the 
	same unless they are counting a tire on the rear door or the tow 
	attachment.  There is no other overhang that I can think of.

	Rgds,

 

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:45:35 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"

Michel Bertrand writes

> According to a few original brochures that I have, The 109" regular is 4 mm
> longer than the Station Wagon version. (4,445 m vs 4,441 m). 
snip
Hmmm. 4mm. If they are talking "overall" length (which is the way it 
is usually done) that would about account for the tailboard hinges, 
which wouldn't affect the departure angle. (Am I correct in 
remembering that the hinges weren't on the SIII SW frames?)
 An allowance for the rear spare mount, which was an option 
anyway, would be much more than 4mm.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

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From: Vel Natarajan <nataraja@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Re: basic charging/electrical questions
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:01:47 -0500 (CDT)

Hi Alan.  Remember this mail from a few weeks back?  Well, I found the
problem, and I owe you a beer!  It was a worn & broken brush.  I
tested out the charging paths, and eventually just pulled the dynamo
out and took it apart.  This was after I had picked the vehicle up
from the port at Newark and had a 400+ mile drive to Buffalo ahead of
me the next day!  Luckily, I was at a friends house and had lots of
tools.  It took all of 30 minutes to replace.  Luckily, I had bought a
set of brushes to take with me the day before I left the UK.  The
brush was actually too large to fit in the slot, so I had to file it
down to the right size.  I hope that didn't affect it negatively, but
that seemed to take care of it though!

Unfortunately, when I was getting ready to leave on my trip the next
morning, the battery didn't have enough juice to start from cold.  But
out came the crank handle, I choked it just right (I think I'm finally
getting the knack of it) and she started right up.

The rest of the trip went flawlessly.  If I don't count the layer of
oil spray which accumulated on the back windows... :-(

Alan Richer writes:
>>This is the 2nd time this has happened.  It's sort of intermittent.  I'll
>>assume the dynamo brushes haven't worn out if it's intermittent.  Maybe the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
> Easy to fix. Read the test procedures and you'll find it in no time.
>    Alan

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:53:05 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: U-joint

 Mark Perry asks:

> I have misplaced the TRW p/n I had for the 2 15/16"  U-joints for Ser.IIA 
> propshafts and don't see them in the FAQs I have here. Does someone know 
> the TRW p/n? I have Precision 369 and Spocer 5-4X on FAQ. Any others?
-
According to my records the spicer 5-4x is for the halfshaft.
Use Spicer 5-153x for the prop shaft. Ant reputacle shop should be 
able to convert the numbers to TRW.
NAPA autoparts in the US uses the Spicer numbers.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:57:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"

On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Tom Rowe wrote:

> is usually done) that would about account for the tailboard hinges, 
> which wouldn't affect the departure angle. (Am I correct in 
> remembering that the hinges weren't on the SIII SW frames?)
>  An allowance for the rear spare mount, which was an option 
> anyway, would be much more than 4mm.

	IIA and III sw frames didn't have the hinges, but all the replacement
	crossmembers do.  All comes down to the meaning of "overall".  Betcha
	they are counting the spare tire mount or tow jaws on the back, both
	of which are about 5" in length (though the original numbers are
	for a UK spec, not NADA spec...)  Oh well...

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:49:06 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: crash tests...

> >   Wonder how a geo metro driver would fair at 40mph crash into a 
> >   concrete wall
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> six months....one geo metro and the other a geo prism.
> Read into it what you want.
-
Ummm. Don't drive in your fire district? :-)

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:39:02 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: capabilities 'twix 88" and 109"

Eric,
If you're going to quote facts, well then...
Assuming the person is in the US, and since he asked about the 
109 vs 88, the most likely purchase would be a IIa 109. 
According to *my* book the specs are:

                         Regular                       Station wagon
Overall lngth    175"                                     175"
width                  66"                                       66"
height                81"                                     81.375"
Wheelbase      109"                                     109"
Track                  51.5"                                   51.5"
Weight              3462.8lb                             3913.8lb

So obviously we need to be careful when when we throw figures  
to make sure we are talking about the same vehicle.
If the person was in the UK the varity of likey vehicle 
configurations would, of course, be much greater.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

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From: slade@sisna.com
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:01:27 -0700
Subject: Caustic Castrol (brake fluid)

Hi all,

I awoke one morning last week to notice several rivulets of bubbly and
peeling paint on the left wing of my 109.  I knew in a moment what it was,
but can't figure out why it's happening.

I raised the bonnet and saw that the area directly above the brake fluid
reservoir cap had been soaked, and most of the paint there was also being
removed.  I guess it dripped down onto the wing and that's where it caught
my attention.

I don't seem to be having any braking problems that I can surmise, but I
haven't bled the system lateley to see if all the brake lines are working
freely.  The reservoir isn't the stock style, it's the flat angular 90 or
110 reservoir.  I have ordered a replacement reservoir and a master
cylinder rebuild kit anticipating the replacement  of the reservoir and
rebuild of the unit.

Any ideas?  I suppose this is as good a time as any to start on the can by
can repainting of my LR.  I ordered 6 cans of pastel green from the place
in Wisconsin that makes them up custom.  Now, on to the stripper and the
primer!

I'd like to sort out the brake problem first however, as it is infinitely
more important than the paint, and I'd hate to repeat the leak after the
wing is painted.

Thanks,

Michael Slade
IIa 109 SW 1970
slade@sisna.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:20:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: rthomas@postoffice.ptd.net (Randall Thomas)
Subject: Re: Series Question-Transmission Brake 

>Advice Please. I've got some stuff (oil) dripping from the transmission
>brake on the 88". Is this the output shaft oil seal that is leaking? If so,
>how difficult of a repair is it and should I replace anything else while
>I'm in there?

Chris,
It is the rear output seal and it is not difficult to repair.
While you're there you can recentralize and adjust the shoes.
You might want to take off the backing plate and clean it, paint it.
Then you can check the speedo stuff under there that is probably leaking too.
Then you can make sure the speedo housing is properly shimmed and torqued 
because your speedo needle is jumpy.
You'll probably notice the Xfer case pan leaking so you'll change that.
While the pans off you'll want to shim the intermediate gear to stop that 
annoying clunking....................................................

Of course while you're under there, you'll eventually find a rust spot in the 
frame and decide that you need to do a frame up recondition of the entire
thing.  
Your best bet is to not get under the vehicle at all.

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:04:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: Andrew Howton <ahowton@agt.net>
Subject: Imaginative jack use

Richard asks:
>can I claim the most imaginative use of a jack award for
>this week (pushing dents out of a front wing)?

Sounds good, reminded me of some jackall body work I had to do to my 88 back
in the fall of 1994 after I rolled it.  Used the jack to pushout some dents
in the rear box and to straiten the roof so that the doors would close.  It
was also used to get the rover off of its side and rubber side down again.
As a side
note I was impressed that the rover started and drove home fine once on its
wheels,  the passanger was also very impressed he offered to buy it on the
spot which was Funny because I was taking him for a test drive at the time
as it was for sale.

Andrew Howton

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:56:19 +0100
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Who's going to the ARC nationals?

Chris Youngson wrote:
> Is there a designated get together area for LRO Lists members?

Re ARC Nationals.

I am not aware of anything, but if anybody wants such an area, I can 
offer my Trade Stand. The stand will be under the name of New Concept, 
(I do not yet have the allocated stand number) and I will be lifting a 
Land Rover (no kidding!) with our Air Jack from time to time. The Landy 
concerned is a marine blue 1974 SIII 88" with "EASYLIFT AIR JACK" in 
large letters down each side. Anybody who wants to meet other LRO list 
bods is welcome to show up and make themselves known. Messages can be 
left etc.

Let me know if this will suffice. I shall be pleased to see visitors, 
and I will not try to sell you anything!:-)

I also lie.

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:20:26 +0000
From: A5703644603@attpls.net (Bomilcar)
Subject: K&N air filter

Has anyone put a K&N filter on 72 Series III?  I have one on a 88 RR -
matched the hose, and replaced the complete assembly.  Same thing with
the with the oil bath on the Series III?
Thanks 
Steve
72 Series III
88 RR

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 13:16:57 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetmail.ushmm.org>
Subject: Happiness is...

Ahh, the joy...

Last night when i got home from work, I decided to try and eke a little more 
enjoyment out of my ROver before it gets stripped down, so I took the door tops 
off. Definitley the best thing a Series owner can do to improve ventilation, 
short of taking off the hardtop. They weren't too hard to get off, I just needed
a few taps on the bottom of the bolts to get em started, then let the pry bar do
the rest. After the initial removal they're easier to get off and now I can just
lift 'em off. I don't know why I didn't do this last summer. My question is has 
anybody figured out a good method of stowing the doortops in the back of an '88,
besides just laying 'em down in the back?

Cheers

Dave B. "No handbrake, doortops off, and grin a mile wide"

BTW, I was freezing my butt off on the way to work this morning, but I was just 
glad to be alive and driving a LR, and I'm afraid the poor commuter in the 
Discovery that was in front of me may have been a little taken aback by my 
furious waving, beeping and light flashing. She did laugh though, so she 
probably just assumed I was crazy, but I think she may just have figured it 
out... 

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 19 Apr 96 13:40:40 EDT
Subject: Re: Happiness is...

Dave the psychopath on the Beltway asks:

My question is has anybody figured out a good method of stowing the doortops in 
the back of an '88, besides just laying 'em down in the back?

Were I to do this, I think I'd make a padded rack for them up aganst the seat 
bulkhead, in the spot vacated by the spare tire on the bonnet in any proper 
Rover. This way, you can simply take them out and drop them into the slots in 
the rack, where they won"t get broken or rattle.

It does not need to be anymore than some slatting, spaced by bits of 2 x 4, 
with some foam duct-taped overtop of the slats.

Either that, or be a man and leave 'em at home....wimp. 8*)

   aj"Serious nuclear-poweered wimp"r

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:43:24 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: Re: Happiness is...

>Last night when i got home from work, I decided to try and eke a little more
>enjoyment out of my ROver before it gets stripped down, so I took the door
>tops
>off.

I just got in from the garage where I too was removing the door tops.  No
stowage hints though.  I stacked them next to an old refridgerator.
Unfortunately, they'll probably have to go back on this Sunday, but right
now the weather is FINE!

RoverOn!

JAB

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
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                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       --Jimmy Buffett
                                                         

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 13:57:51 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetmail.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Happiness is...

Jeff answers my question...

>>I just got in from the garage where I too was removing the door tops.  No
stowage hints though.  I stacked them next to an old refridgerator.

Hmm. A refrigerator, huh? Those Roverworks guys really hook it up don't they. 
Sounds almost "plushy" :-) Is that next to the ARB locker?

Cheers
Dave "No refirgerator but plenty of home cookin' on the manifold" B.

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:01:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Happiness is...

On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Bobeck, David R. wrote:

> 'em off. I don't know why I didn't do this last summer. My question is has 
> anybody figured out a good method of stowing the doortops in the back of 
> an '88, besides just laying 'em down in the back?

	One of the more interesting options I have seen is putting a pair
	of brackets on the rear box and stowing them uprght in the brackets
	over where the windows are.  Herbert Zipkin has done this and it
	seems to be a very useful way to carry them about, yet keep them out
	of the way.  Eric can probably provide better details.

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From: slade@sisna.com
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:12:34 -0700
Subject: Re[2]: Happiness is...

David answers Jeff...

>Jeff answers my question...
>>>I just got in from the garage where I too was removing the door tops.  No
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>Cheers
>Dave "No refirgerator but plenty of home cookin' on the manifold" B.

Well I certainly can say those Roverworks guys really 'hooked' me!  To the
tune of 15.5K!  So far nothing.  No news, no Rover, no refund, no nuthin'!

No kidding!

Michael Slade
IIa 109 SW 1970
slade@sisna.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:13:54 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Happiness is...

>Jeff answers my question...
>>>I just got in from the garage where I too was removing the door tops.  No
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>Cheers
>Dave "No refirgerator but plenty of home cookin' on the manifold" B.

Actually Roverworks didn't do the fridge.  This feature was added, along
with the glass front woodstove and leather recliners, by another firm which
specializes in building those little cars that clowns climb out of at the
circus.  They're even more famous for their architectural work which
includes Pogo's tree, Snoopy's doghouse, and Phineas J. Whoopy's ("Whatta
we gonna do now Tennessee?")  closet.

I guess I never really invited you INTO my Rover, huh?

RoverOn!

Jeff

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg         Purple Shark Media             Rowayton, CT
                        jeff@purpleshark.com
                                *****
Look what happens when you love someone, and they don't love you.
                                       --Warren Zevon, The Heartache
==                                                                 ==

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:16:29 -0600 (CST)
From: "Jakob Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: RE: K&N air filter

> Has anyone put a K&N filter on 72 Series III?  I have one on a 88 RR -
> matched the hose, and replaced the complete assembly.  Same thing with
> the with the oil bath on the Series III?
> Steve

My 73 sIII 88" was fitted with a K&N filter when i bought it, this replaces
hoses and oilbath. My carburettor was also replaced with a Weber ICH 34,
this seems to work fine and gives a better gas milage.

cheers
-----------------------------------
Stine Henriksen / Jakob Christensen
Borrowed account    -   73 sIII 88"
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 15:01 SAT
From: Jose Trisotti <jtrisott@reuna.cl>
Subject: Santana

Anybody knows Land Rover Santana ( Its made in Spain by license)

I have two LR one is a 88 SW and the other is a military 109 LIGHTWEIGH 6 (
six cil 3490cc) 

Regards from Chile SouthAmerica

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:23:44 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Happiness is...

 Jeff boasts:

> Actually Roverworks didn't do the fridge.  This feature was added, along
 with the glass front woodstove and leather recliners, by another firm which
 specializes in building those little cars that clowns climb out of at the
 circus.  They're even more famous for their architectural work which
 includes Pogo's tree, Snoopy's doghouse, and Phineas J. Whoopy's ("Whatta
 we gonna do now Tennessee?")  closet.
 
> I guess I never really invited you INTO my Rover, huh?

It's quite easy to get all that in, and more, once you coil your 109 and 
stow it in your ARB locker.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:18:02 GMT -0600
Subject: unsubscribing

I'm unsubscribing from the list while I'm in Nashville next week. 
Yep, no ARB locker jokes for awhile.
My e-mail will be forwarded to my Compuserve account if you need to 
reach me about something important. Just e-mail me directly.

So I really don't expect to here from you ;-)

Hopefully I'll get the digests when I get back to see if I missed 
anything.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:28:13 -0500
From: "Stephen H. King" <renegade@gte.net>
Subject: D90 return in '97

Howdy folks,

I was just at the Dallas Auto Show,  talking to the reps. from Land Rover.
(I had been looking at purchasing a D90 just as they stoped importing them. 
I was sick!)  In my conversation with the LR reps., they told me the D90
would be back in '97.  

Does anyone else have any info on this?

                                                        Owner of a '74 MGB,

                                                                Stephen King 

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:19:16 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Gearboxes

>       I thought I remembered reading on the list about a person who
>rebuilds IIA gearboxes to full sybchro.  Who is he again?

Robert Davis...here in southeastern Virginia.  He has a pile of Series III 
gearboxes, but they have the IIa style bellhousing/clutch.  Best of both 
worlds.  If you are interested, post to me and I'll forward it to Robert.  
He's not on the digest anymore, but he is still on-line.  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 01:32:56 -0400
Subject: Traceability

Just received my report back from Solihul about my Series IIa 88", and there
really isn't much to see, except the date it was built and the date it was
shipped to the U.S. In the shipping area it states "H.D.O. Murphy. Rover NY"
I take it that Rover NY was the old LRNA???, but what is H.D.O. Murphy?? Any
suggestions would be great. Also is there any way to trace the vehicle's
history in the United States?

Thanks a bunch

Cheers

Chris Whitehead
1966 Series II A 88"-under reconstruction

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