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1 "T.Stevenson" [gbfv08@ud19Second hand springs?
2 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob4test-no content. Read only if you are Really bored.
3 ccray@showme.missouri.ed20moab travelers or 6 days on the road ...
4 EvanD103@aol.com 12Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
5 D Jordan [djordan@neptun94Land Rover Song
6 John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv11Re: Land Rover Song
7 HMEdwards@aol.com 7help
8 rover@pinn.net (Alexande41Sealants
9 rthomas@postoffice.ptd.n8Interesting site/article
10 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi22Re: Land Rover Song
11 "Mr Ian Stuart" [Ian.Stu44Hello? & LR question..
12 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M9Re: Hello? & LR question..
13 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u30Re: Hello? & LR question..
14 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M19Re: Hello? & LR question..


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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:40:12 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Second hand springs?

>springs. I haven't really checked this out so please correct me if there 
>are other resaons this could be happening.

Try jacking up each corner of the LR in turn, give the springs a good
wire-brushing and then paint them liberally with old gear oil/diesel mix
every day for a week or so. This often cures a lean, and makes the ride a
bit easier too.

 Tom
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Thomas D.I. Stevenson                          gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station,      Tel 01475 530581
Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland.       Fax 01475 530601
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 09:53:12 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetmail.ushmm.org>
Subject: test-no content. Read only if you are Really bored.

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:21:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: ccray@showme.missouri.edu
Subject: moab travelers or 6 days on the road ...

matt tanner's moab excursion is coming up (may 1 - may 4).  i had
a couple of malts last nite and got all excited cause i still
think i can pull it off.  anybody from midwest or east us going.  i
could use the convoy company...

got to come up with the words to the old johnny cash tune "..6 days
on the road (and i'm going to make it home tonight).." cause i know
i will be singing/living it...

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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
         "...you are what you drive..."
- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU, aka Experimental)  - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)                   - 87 RR      (wife's)
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From: EvanD103@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:31:06 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

The last Digest I recieved was 4/15.  If anyone can forward copies of the
4/16 and 4/17 digests, or tell me if I've been kicked off in disgrace and
need to resubsribe please do so.  Thanks
Erik van Dyck
Stone Mountain, Georgia
1973 Ser.III  88

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:29:48 +0200
From: D Jordan <djordan@neptune.infolink.co.za>
Subject: Land Rover Song

At a recent Club outing one of our members produced her guitar and led the
group in the following which is quite a lot of fun.   It goes to the tune of
the Irish folk song "Wild Rover".

The words are as follows:

Ive owned a Land Rover for many a year
I use it to carry my whisky and beer
When we're on safari with Rovers galore
We all give three cheers for this great 4 x 4

CHORUS
And its no, nay, never, no nay never no more
Will I sell my Land Rover, no never, no more

I bought a Toyota to go to South West
But wasnt convinced that it really was best
I tried a Suzuki but threw it away
Cos a Land Rovers better, so what do you say

CHORUS

My bearings are buggered, the swivel pins too
The steering it wobbles, my problems are few
The leaks from the gear box and diff are so slow
So I'll check all the levels when the damn thing wont go

CHORUS

A Range Rovers faster but uses more fuel
The people who drive them they look rather cool
Its from the same stable but has beter springs
But lets face it folks its just not the real thing

CHORUS

A Forward Control doesnt look quite so nice
But they used to be had for a very good price
Some of us think they do have their charms!
Just take a good look at "The Old Charlton Arms"

CHORUS

At rallies the Shorties they always come first
But the drivers all seem to develop a thirst
Series Ones, Twos and Threes all have their own place
And now the One Tens are the first in the race

CHORUS

I bought an old Landy and stripped with with care
A 2A from Solihull is really quite rare
But how to repair it I asked in the Pub
They said to apply to the Land Rover Club

CHORUS

The Land Club members were quite a surprise
They all seemed to be a nice bunch of guys
Its thanks to them that I now know much more
About the Land Rover, that great 4 x 4

CHORUS

While we are singing theres one thing to say
Im sure we're all loving our wonderful stay
Back in the Lowveld its "dankie aan Gene -
Goeie more, goeie nag, lekker slaap en tot siens"

CHORUS

This song was the work of one Jake Pressly and Steve Shelly by all accounts
and developed at an LROC of SA function in the then Eastern Transvaal, South
Africa some tiome back.
The reference to the "Old Charlton Arms" is the nickname given to a member's
FC that was so frequented as a pub that at one time members tried to get
into the Guiness Book of Records by cramming as many people as possible in,
each holding a beer!!

The quotes in the last verse translate into English as follows - thank you
to Gene, good morning, good night, sleep well and good bye.

Maybe there are other club songs around ?  or maybe the above will start a
series of international versions.   Waiting to see what happens.

Sorry if this is not heavy technical stuff, but it should appeal to some.

Cheers all and greetings from SA
Denese Jordan (Secretary LROC of SA : KwaZulu Natal Club)

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Re: Land Rover Song

Great song!!

Cheers

John Brabyn
89RR

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From: HMEdwards@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:35:39 -0400
Subject: help

help

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:24:57 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Sealants

John Dilingham wrote:
>My three standbys for treating paper gaskets, when I do, are 
>Copper-Kote...and permatex hardening and non hardening gasket sealer.

To this I might add another Permatex product "High Tack," a spray, not to be 
confused with another fine product and oil additive, "Hi Tach."  All the 
"silicone" sealers, IMHO, are over-rated anywhere near the engine and/or 
fuels or oil.  While I haven't retrieved any bits from the oil pickup 
screen, I have found stringy bits that were ready to head that way.  I used 
to carry three "flavors" of Permatex RTV, but have given them all up for the 
'old' standbys.

As I was writing this, the off-set barrier crash tests were on NBC's 
Dateline (these were the same guys who used the little 'ignitors' in the 
Chevy flambe scandal a few years ago).  Oy vey!  The sight of a brand 
spanking new Discovery crashing at 40 mph....and I just took delivery of
one last Friday!  Actually, the Disco fared fairly well and was given an 
'acceptable' rating compared to some of the other sport utes.  It's just
that the closing shot taken at about 80 frames per second showed the ".AND" 
in LAND ROVER filling the screen....brrrrr.

As to the new Disco, as I was wheeling it into the neighborhood Saturday, I 
got a whiff of glycol; it was spewing coolant when I turned it off in front 
of the house.  The 5/16" hose from the radiator to the overflow tank 
contacted the serpentine belt which chewed through it.  Parking behind the 
'72 88, the older vehicle almost seemed to gloat at the new one's mis- 
fortune.  Some hose and a nylock retrieved from the 88 set it all to rights.

Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:41:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: rthomas@postoffice.ptd.net (Randall Thomas)
Subject: Interesting site/article

Check it out. Good stuff.

http://www.ipl.co.uk/MG/rover/articles/ET_16-5-95.html

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 00:12:38 -0400
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Land Rover Song

Denese Jordan gives us...

>At a recent Club outing one of our members produced her guitar and led the
>group in the following which is quite a lot of fun.   It goes to the tune of
>the Irish folk song "Wild Rover".
-

Loved the song! I've hoisted more than one Guinness at the local while
singing the "Wild Rover" and always thought it should have been "Land
Rover". Next time, it will!

Cheers
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.                  1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green     
Gloversville                       1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY  12078  (USA)        7          1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
                     #:-}>         1964 Triumph Spitfire - BRG

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From: "Mr Ian Stuart" <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:52:38 +0000
Subject: Hello? & LR question..

Is it just me, or has the list gone quiet overnight?

Question:

Does anyone know *how* a Flasher Unit works? I have a trailer socket, and 
an indicator light in the dash. The idea is that the indicator repeaters 
flash in the dash and the trailer indicator lamp also flashes if a trailer 
is connected to the socket.

The problem is that my trailer indicator lamp sometimes flashes and 
sometimes doesn't - all without a trailer being connected!

The wiring is: 12V in to connetcor 49+, chopped power out to indicator
switch on connector 49a, Trailer indicator on connector C2

The indicators are wired as follows:

switch -> connection point
Connection point -> 	(1) Dash repeaters
				(2) Front Lamp
				(3) Rear connection
Rear connection ->	(1) Rear Lamp
				(2) Trailer Socket, via local fuse-board

The question is - why does the trailer indicator lamp sometimes flash &
sometimes not? It doesn't appear to be related to alternator output at
changing the revs doesn't affect it. (BTW, the indicator pulse-rate is
also erratic, if that helps)

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Has anyone done a write-up on stripping leaf-springs, cleaning then and 
re-bushing them? If so, where is it?

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

Quote of 1996: "A.L.S. is a good example of scottishissityness"

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:40:07 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Hello? & LR question..

>Is it just me, or has the list gone quiet overnight?

Well,we've got to sleep *sometime*....
Mike Rooth

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Hello? & LR question..
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 8:50:22 BST

> The question is - why does the trailer indicator lamp sometimes flash &
> sometimes not? It doesn't appear to be related to alternator output at
> changing the revs doesn't affect it. (BTW, the indicator pulse-rate is
> also erratic, if that helps)

I have a 24V FFR - with NATO trailer socket. The trailer lamp on the dash
flashes once when I switch the indicator up/down, then stops (leaving
the indicator lamp to flash with the clicking and the indicators themselves).
I've never connected a trailer (infact, the tow-hook has seized)
This probably doesn't help you much, but that's what I get.

Hi everyone! I only joined this (and the UK) list yesterday, and posted a
query (re. paint sourcing) & introduction to the UK list. My introduction:
A month or so ago, I bought an ex-mil (?RAF?) Series III 109 hardtop, petrol,
and fitted-for-radio. Generally in good nick, but lots of "small" things to
keep me busy - eg. replaced the petrol gauge & some gaiters at the weekend.
Not knowing much about vehicles, I'm learning fast! (over Easter, my father
and I rebuilt the front brakes, and we also had one of the hubs apart).
Its worth having an ex-mil vehicle, just for the MoD User Handbook!
(incl. a chapter on how to destroy the vehicle in the face of an advancing 
enemy)

Richard
marsden@doyle.digicon-egr.co.uk

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:50:04 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Hello? & LR question..

>Has anyone done a write-up on stripping leaf-springs, cleaning then and
>re-bushing them? If so, where is it?

Never seen one Ian,but a tip,passed on through bitter experience.
I'd strongly recommend using genuine parts bushes.I was getting
through a set of rear spring rear bushes at the rate of one a month.
No matter where I got them from.Got Genuine ones(a metter of pence
more expensive),and they've lasted years.Literally.
The problem seems to be that with the inferior bushes,the inner and
outer steel tubes arent parallel,and the resultant strains tear out the
rubber.I've got a doozy of an example kicking round the office here,
somewhere.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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