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1 LTC Larry Smith [smithla32 Re: Replacement Headlights
2 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r56Aluminium painting
3 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo116Rollcages
4 Sven Jourgensen [qa@hpqt19Re: Replacement Headlights
5 jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben29homebuilt
6 slade@sisna.com 28RE: Replacement Headlights
7 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi27Clearing it up
8 jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben9Salisbury axles FS
9 jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben12Tim's Q about importers
10 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em10Re: Salisbury axles FS
11 Rob Bailey [baileyr@cuug15Lucas C-42 Generator
12 Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D15Delicious Content
13 lopezba@atnet.at 13Re: Fuel gauge
14 ASFCO@aol.com 14Replacement shocks
15 krm@mtnms.att.com (K.MOH21Leaking Hubs/ jacks
16 Greg Moore [gmoore@mail.21Re: Leaking Hubs/ jacks
17 "S. Vels" [svels@mail-se19 Re: Cargo barriers for SIIa
18 David Place [dplace@SIRN20source of Land Rover Parts
19 jib@big.att.com (Tom Rei23A/F mixture sensor.
20 jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben10"kit cars" again
21 Michael Carradine [cs@cr22Re: source of Land Rover Parts
22 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob12Re: "kit cars" again
23 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo128Re: Leaking Hubs/ jacks
24 rover@pinn.net (Alexande23D-110 for sale
25 "William L. Leacock" [7517RR
26 IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILL16There's one born every minute...D110 for sale
27 David L Dean [DEAND@kea.29Re: LPG (propane gas) powered LRs
28 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca20[not specified]
29 PurnellJE@aol.com 30Re: Replacement Headlights/Driving/Fog Lights too...
30 David Olley at New Conce28Re: Leaking Hubs/ jacks
31 michelbe@login.net (Mich20Hi-Lift Jack
32 Wdcockey@aol.com 32Re: Reputation of Importers (Legal SIII?)
33 rover@pinn.net (Alexande18Replacement headlamps
34 "Steven Swiger (LIS)" [s42Re: There's one born every minute...D110 for sale
35 jpappa01@interserv.com 17Re: Retro
36 "David J. Mercer" [merki78RE: Salisbury axles FS
37 wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter d34Grafton in SA
38 jory bell [jory@MIT.EDU>18Hole Spe(cifi)cs for Alpine Windows?
39 Andrew Chambers [c2ac@dm21[not specified]


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Date:     Thu, 21 Mar 96 7:15:48 EST (1215Z)
From: LTC Larry Smith <smithla@arngrc-emh2.army.mil>
Subject:  Re:  Replacement Headlights

To all:

Like the idea of brighter lights, but one
bit of caution on Series vehicles.  In a
previous life, I had a Subaru 4WD station
wagon.  Fitted it with Cibie 65/55 watt
headlamps.  Was stationed in Germany at
the time.  Drove both to and from work
in the dark.  Over a period of about three
months, the lamps sucked the charge out
of a new battery.  I have been considering
a switch to stock replacement halogens, but
already notice a big draw on my system now

sealed beam lamps in conjunction with the
heater fan.  If you are going to fit
the replacements, you might want to consider
some extra daytime driving and/or a
maintenance battery charger (like one
of the solar panel ones) to keep your
battery topped up.

'til later,

Larry Smith
'72 SWB Petrol - Grover
Chester, VA

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:44:01 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: Aluminium painting

Time to dispel a myth I think. Aluminium corrodes much faster than the
worst grade of steel. BUT the oxide formed is non-porous, where the
oxide layer on iron or steel is very porous.
  
By the time you have finished removing the oxide from the aluminium it
will have reformed by reacting with the water and other nasties in the
air.
  
Real pure aluminium is very shiney, the oxide slightly less so. Most
people have only seen the oxide layer.
  
The oxide layer reforms instantly to cover any chips thus sealing the
unoxidised layer underneath.
  
Salt and other road grime could form another compound which would cause
the furring up which appears on untreated ally.
  
If you want proof of the reactivity of ally get some ally powder and
place it in some acid. Then get some steel powder OF THE SAME GRAIN SIZE
and put it in another tube of acid. The ally acid mix will hit the
ceiling, spraying the area with acid most likely. The steel one will
fizz a bit.
  
DON'T TRY THIS IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF COATING THE CEILING,
YOURSELF AND ANYTHING ELSE IN THE AREA WITH HOT ACID (AND IT WILL BE
HOT!)
  
The unpainted bits of my old bike where bare ally.  The salt has
caused them to corrode quite badly, but it is only a surface effect and
can be removed with neat traffic film remover followed by a little
polish (the shining stuff, not a dwarf eastern European!!!!).
  
There is a safety warning on the traffic film remover not to use it neat
of bare ally, but I do and it's great.  I use the stuff to clean anything
and dilute it depending on how delicate/grimy the surface is.  It does
a great job on the perspex windows of soft tops, oily gearboxes &
engines...
  
NB: Only do the acid bit if you know what you are doing, under the
supervision of a qualified chemist, wearing eye protection, have
lots of water on standby, are with 1 minute of a hospital with
a burns unit, etc, etc.  ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
  
Same goes the the traffic film remover.
  
Have fun kids, Steve
  
Steve Reddock, Xyratex       | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450     | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)           | visited by the ghost of Usenet
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 08:14:20 -0500
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Rollcages

Hi all

After looking at various options, I am considering having a rollcage made for my 88" 
Series IIa.  I am thinking of bolting it to the right and left fuel tank outriggers and 
the wings of the rear crossmember.  Has anyone out there done this?  Is there a 
structural reason not to bolt to these outriggers?

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020 
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: Sven Jourgensen <qa@hpqt0251.sqf.hp.com>
Subject: Re:  Replacement Headlights
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:54:51 GMT

> heater fan.  If you are going to fit
> the replacements, you might want to consider
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> Larry Smith
> '72 SWB Petrol - Grover
> Chester, VA
Would it not be easier just to upgrade, the alternator to one with a higher
power out, ditto for the battery, get a bigger one, there's plenty of room :)
I always try and get the largest possible battery for whatever I drive. It 
helps if you're forgetful about your lights, or if you watch TV in your vehicle
both of which I have been know to do.

Sven.

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 09:05:49 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: homebuilt

In NJ, this would be classified as a "reconstructed vehicle", not
a "kit car".  The titling/certification process sounded quite simple.
Also, here's a "reprint" from mail I got:

----- Begin Included Message -----

Status: RO

I talked to the registration  office in Florida where I live for the same
type of project.  They said to be sure that for the major components like
body, engine, and frame to get the title to them transferred.  Also would be
a good idea to have the serial numbers of each run through the teletype to
check for stolen items, would be a shame to lose the truck after building it
due to stolen part.  Your local sherriff's office can run the numbers for
you.  Just make a rubbing of the numbers with a piece of paper and a pencil.
they can take it from there.

Good luck with the project, can't wait to get the frame for mine.

Gary
morris@iag.net

----- End Included Message -----
Jan

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From: slade@sisna.com
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:47:27 -0700
Subject: RE: Replacement Headlights

>     Hella makes some really nice replacement headlights in the form of a
>headlight conversion called: Hella Vision Plus.  The Hella Vision Plus system
>uses a 60 watt high beam / 55 watt low beam and features a replaceable bulb
>for low maintenance.  It is also DOT approved for street use in all 50 states.

I'm running Hella Visions in my 109 and like them a lot (compared to the
original sealed beam units), but I went a step further and put in 85/100
watt bulbs from NAPA into them.  I kept the original bulbs and they're in
my spare kit just in case.  They're 'officially' motorcycle bulbs, but with
a little ingenuity and a pair of needle nose pliers they fit right in the
Hellas.

The great thing is, with the Hella lights, the cut-off is so sharply angled
downward on low beam, no one knows I'm running the higher wattage bulb.  On
bright however, that's another story.

Apparently NAPA makes a 100/135 bulb as well, but I decided mine were good
enough.  Perhaps next time. :)

Michael Slade
IIa 109 SW 1970
slade@sisna.com

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:20:37 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: Clearing it up

Dear All,
        In today's digest I read a post from Tim Attinger. For Tim and the
list... Feel free to check out all your Rover sources, that is just one
thing that the Digest is good for.
        I did want clear up one incorrect point Tim made though...
        East Coast Rover does NOT import SIII vehicles to the US, as there
is still no legal way to do so as a reputable company. We refurbish, coil,
and restore US spec. SIII's, or something you may bring us, and we won't
ask where you got it, but we only import up to the legal limit of around
1970, still late IIA's. We find that we are mot doing much of that anymore
anyway, due to the poor condition of the pre-70 Rovers in the UK, just as
they are in here in the US. We find it easier to find an avergae LHD US
spec. model and re-frame it and fix the problems, rather then ship in,
convert to LHD etc.
        We still offer our direct importation services and RHD to LHD
conversions, and a lot more if you need them Tim.
        Sorry for taking up so much space, but I don't ever want ECR
connected in any way with illegally imported Rovers, It is not what we are
about!
        Thanks, see ya!

Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co.

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:18:56 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: Salisbury axles FS

Dear list,
as I am converting my 109 onto RR axles w. coils, my sal. axles
are surplus.  75k miles.  Anyone interested? what are they worth?
Jan (NE US)

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:46:25 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: Tim's Q about importers

Tim,
never dealt with the Renewed Transmissions.  Bought my '63 109
directly from their Bristol's shop.  Got royally screwed, as some of
the chassis is rotten.  On the up side, this has motivated me to 
do a coiler conversion (still in progress) :)
rgds
Jan

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:45:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Salisbury axles FS

> as I am converting my 109 onto RR axles w. coils, my sal. axles
> are surplus.  75k miles.  Anyone interested? what are they worth?

	Am interested, but don't really know what they are worth.
	Hopefully not too much...

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:42:26 -0700 (MST)
From: Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>
Subject: Lucas C-42 Generator

Hello!  

  Has anybody (I know somebody must have...) put a C-42 Gen in place of a 
C-40? I picked one up at the wreckers, but haven't tried to actually 
install it yet, and I was wondering what kind of mods I will need to 
perform. Any insight will be appreciated...

Thanks,
Rob
63 IIa 88

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Delicious Content
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:09:00 EST

Whilst not exactly LR content this web site will be of interest to the 
majority of Land Rover Owners
who know where to open a bottle but prefer the real thing. The introduction 
came from Science and Engineering Network News. I knew there was a reason I 
subscribed.

http://www.u-net.com/~thepub/beers.html

Trevor"Pass the winky wobbler" Easton

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:25:11 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge

It seems that all you have to do behind your instrument panel after a switch 
from positive to negative earth is to swap the connections to the ammeter. 
You can also swap the accessory sockets. Everything else "standard" should 
work without a problem (as far as that is possible with Land-Rovers, of course).
Regards
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:48:48 -0500
Subject: Replacement shocks

Just got my orig msg returned....seems it went to university of Finland
Here goes again

Awhile back someone made a posting which listed an alternative manufacturer
and their corresponding part numbers to the LR shocks both standard and HD. 
I would appreciate it being re-posted again
Thanks
Steve

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From: krm@mtnms.att.com (K.MOHLENHOFF)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:25:20 EST
Subject: Leaking Hubs/ jacks

Hello;
I have leaking rear hubs, I have all I need to replace the seals and brakes.
What I would like to know is... 
1. What is leaking out, oil from the axle or grease from the bearings.

Different Subject;
All the marketing info about the Jack-All jack claim 8000lbs for lifting,
 clamping and winching. The resellers of the product only have the marketing
 info and I can't find the manufacturers phone number to verify this.
Does any one own this product or have the manufacturers number?
I spoke to a rep for Hi-Lift and their winching capacity is lower than their
lifting capacity. I was wondering if the technical specs for the Jack-All
differ from the marketing info?

Keith Mohlenhoff	IIA 109 SW

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 12:30:59 -0800
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@mail.comox.island.net>
Subject: Re: Leaking Hubs/ jacks

K.MOHLENHOFF wrote:

> All the marketing info about the Jack-All jack claim 8000lbs for lifting,
>  clamping and winching. The resellers of the product only have the marketing
>  info and I can't find the manufacturers phone number to verify this.
> Does any one own this product or have the manufacturers number?

I have been using a Jack-All for years and wouldn't be wihtout one. Get 
the 48" beam and fabricate a larger base for it. I believe there are 
variants with different pieces of stamped steel vs. cast. Can anyone 
verify this? As for capacity my 11A SWB is just over 3000lbs so doesn't 
give the Jack-All much of a workout. FWIW I have lifted and winched my LR 
over and through all manner of stuff with nary a problem (haven't tried 
clamping it though!).

Cheers, Greg

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date:          Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:39:52 +0001
Subject:       Re: Cargo barriers for SIIa

> Does anyone out there know where I can get hold of a cargo barrier
> that would fit my SIIa 'Safari' station-wagon ( preferably in Australia )?
> Getting whacked on the back of the head by camping gear is not fun anymore.

Here in DK all truck reg. vehicles must have a cargo barrier behind 
the driver if the cargo area is not isolated. Some use a perspex 
plate, others (far most) use a strong steel net, which is usually 
galvanised. Many truck reg. landies here (cheaper) so the barrier is 
easy to get. Let me know if you want som prices from Danish 
suppliers.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:53:26 -0600 (CST)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: source of Land Rover Parts

While buying parts for my Austin Marina, I came across a nice chap in 
N.Y. State who says he has lots of Land Rovers for parts cars.  He is 
British Auto 600 Penfield, Macedon New York. Ph 315-986-3097.  Macedon is 
pronounced like Mastadon of old :-)  I have ordered a few parts for the 
car and I have had no problems so far.  He is very well informed when it 
comes to the Austin, can't say on the Land Rovers.  His prices have been 
good so far.  He has all the Lucus parts you could want since most are 
interchangeable between British vehicles.  Dave VE4PN.  PS. when I get a 
chance I will get the numbers of the Gabriel shocks for the fellow 
looking.  I posted them some months ago but I know Dixon had some numbers 
of other brands at one time.  By the way Dixon can you post the 
information on how to determine the age of your Land Rover by the glass.  
For the life of me I can't find my copy of that article and it was a good 
one.  Dave VE4PN
 

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 13:04:36 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Tom Reingold)
Subject: A/F mixture sensor.

dear alfa and LR lists:

Edelbrock (and others?) sell A/F sensors, in the form of an O2
sensor and a bar LED display.
They go for $120-130, incl. the sensor.

I made a 10-led. bar display, incl. calibration pots for $8 in parts
(all quant. of 1 prices).  The O2 sensors are free after dark :)
seriously, they're $30 or so new.  To be meaningful, this setup must
be calibrated (I have a CO meter).  Also, the O2 response is highly
non-linear right around stoich (just where it counts), so I doubt
this is very useful for more than a rough guesstimates.
Still, beats colortune in that you can monitor it while driving.
I found schematics on http://  well, my server is down.. follow diy-efi
from yahoo->autos

ciao and cheers
Jan

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:24:40 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: "kit cars" again

last post of the day, really... promise...
If you build a "reconstructed" vehicle (at least here in NJ),
you need to meet EPA specs of the year of the engine.
So choose wisely between a 87-on Rover v8 or a 61-63 BOP 215 block :)
Jan

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:53:14 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: source of Land Rover Parts

At 02:53 PM 3/21/96 -0600, David Place <dplace@sirnet.mb.ca> wrote:
:PS. when I get achance I will get the numbers of the Gabriel shocks for
:the fellow looking.  I posted them some months ago but I know Dixon had
:some numbers of other brands at one time.

 Take a look at Mike Hoskins' Aftermarket Parts List on my URL below.
 He lists regular and HD Gabriel shocks for the 88, as well as Rancho's.
 Also, there are links to the RoverWeb page which as parts list too.

 Cheers,

                         ______
 Michael Carradine       [__[__\==                    Rumpole of the Bay
 510-988-0900            [________]               Land-Rover Roughmobile
 cs@crl.com  __________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^  '65 IIA 2.235m (was 88")
 _______________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover 4x4 Connection WWW page:   http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:41:04 PST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: "kit cars" again

last post of the day, really... promise...
If you build a "reconstructed" vehicle (at least here in NJ),
you need to meet EPA specs of the year of the engine.
So choose wisely between a 87-on Rover v8 or a 61-63 BOP 215 block :)
Jan

My question is: as long as it's registered as a 109, then...

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:53:36 -0500
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: Leaking Hubs/ jacks

K.MOHLENHOFF wrote:
> Hello;
> I have leaking rear hubs, I have all I need to replace the seals and brakes.
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> What I would like to know is...
> 1. What is leaking out, oil from the axle or grease from the bearings.

Most probably, grease from the hub.  What happens (usually) is a groove is worn in the 
distance piece (it sits immediately adjacent to the backing plate).  Grease leaks from 
the rear grease seal (plastic or rubber) along the groove worn in the distance piece. if 
that's the problem, you'll see a shiny line around the distance piece.  There are lots 
of ways to remove the distance piece but I have found a channel locks pliers (or large 
enough visegrips) applied parallel to the backing plate works well by rotating the piece 
 back and forth.  If it is too tight to move, I have cracked it a bit with a cold chisel 
but I have never had the patience/nerve to crack it all the way down to the axle piece 
(method described in the manual).  BUT NOTE: once you've applied pliers to the distance 
piece, the surface will be damaged and you're committed to removing it!

Good Luck
Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:13:20 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: D-110 for sale

A short while ago, Carter "Tuck" Anderson, one of the charter members of 
ROAV back in '75, passed away.  Then a cop, and later an attorney, he bought 
one of the 110 Defenders, and now his estate has asked me to sell it.  The 
particulars:

        1993 Defender 110, #262 out of 500.  Factory-installed, 8,000#
        winch, 18,000 miles, excellent condition.  Offers over $40,000 
        considered.

I'll forward any offers to the estate.  Post to the below address or call me 
direct.  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: 21 Mar 96 18:40:26 EST
From: "William L. Leacock" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: RR

Just a year ago I test drove a RR that was for sale in our area, an 89 3.5 EFI
Auto etc, at that time it was just abit too much money, the wife wanted a
downpayment on a house. Well I have just returned from agreeing to buy it, it
needs a good clean, the front wheel brgs adjusting. One problem, which the
company selling the vehicle ( not a motor trader ) has agreed to have fixed at
the dealers is the EFI ligtht which glimmers from time to time, is this serious
? or is it a sign that the sensors need cleaning etc ?
 The price is  probably similar to the price in the UK. 
This  delays our plans to buy an 88 to play with for some time. Need to decide
which motor to part with of the 4 that we have, ie Buick, Chevrolet or Olds !

  Regards  Bill Leacock    Limey in exile.

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:48:02
From: IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILLIAM ADAMS)
Subject: There's one born every minute...D110 for sale

Is this price for real? Isn't this the same price for a new vehicle? Why 
would anyone go for such a deal? Am I missing something? I've seen such 
trucks and they aren't THAT good.

Bill Adams
3Dmentia computer animation
4016 Spruell Drive
Kensington, MD 20895
301-949-9475

'66 Land Rover S2A 109" Station Wagon Diesel  ...all there

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:32:51 +1200
From: David L Dean <DEAND@kea.lincoln.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: LPG (propane gas) powered LRs

Jonathan Badger <badger@tipcote.demon.co.uk>,

I had a '72 Range Rover that was LPG powered and it worked 
flawlessly.  The LPG conversions are quite common here in NZ because 
it is 40% cheaper than petrol.  However, some of the things I have 
heard and experienced regarding LPG include:

More effective on 6 & 8 cyl engines

Often the engines are started on petrol and run on LPG (and switched 
back to fill the carb with petrol for the next start)

Noticeably less power on hills

Noticeably slower acceleration

Also, I think the LPG for vehicles here has lubricant added to protect 
valve seats.

Cheers,

------- (David L. Dean - Department of Economics & Marketing) -------
----------- (Lincoln University, Canterbury, New Zealand) -----------
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Subject: M100 ex military trailers
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:47:25 -0500

I posted quite a while ago that I have a manual for the ex Canadian 
Forces trailer the M100.

I received a number of requests from our cousins below the parralel as to 
whether it was the same trailer as towed by the M 151 Mutt. 

The answer is yes, well kind of. But how close I cant be sure.

Any way I have a few of these if any one needs one.

Robin

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:45:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Replacement Headlights/Driving/Fog Lights too...

In a message dated 96-03-21 01:51:56 EST, you write:

> The Rallye 3000 fog lamps 
>easily cut through heavy rain/fog as well as provide extra illumination for 
>night driving.  I think one of the best setups that I have seen to date is
my
>buddy Paul's Tri-Light configuration on his D90. 
So, it sounds like the "fog" lights are about as good as the "driving" lights
for road use?  (I don't mean legally, just functionally.)  I guess we aren't
driving Ferraris (well, some of us are... :>) )  so we don't have to worry
about over-driving the lights.  

The reason I ask is that when it comes time ($$)  for lights, I want to have
my decision made.  I was hoping there were some lights out there that were
pinpointee enough to use with the low beams even with oncoming traffic on a
divided 4 lane highway ... is this silly?  I just figured if you aimed them
farther to the right of the road (and they weren't airplane landing
lights...), you could leave them on.  Maybe I'd need the 3000 fog lights in
addition to these "driving light arrangement" I'm describing, since off road
or with no oncoming traffic, the 3000s would illuminate a wider patch in
front of me.  

Make sense?
John, D90

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 00:58:14 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Leaking Hubs/ jacks

Nathan Dunsmore wrote:
> I have never had the patience/nerve to crack it all the way down to 
> the axle piece (method described in the manual).

The manual instructs you to drill a small hole in the distance piece, 
and then use a sharp cold chisel. This is in fact very easy to do, and 
one or two well aimed blows will either allow the ring to expand or 
fracture completely. Either way it then just slips off. It does sound 
rather more brutal than it actually is. Use this old distance piece 
between the new piece and the tubular drift when refitting to avoid 
damaging the edges. Any slight damage can destroy the lip of the new 
seal when fitting the hub.

The only way oil from the axle can then leak is through the felt seal at 
the end of the half shaft, which is outside the hub.

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:44:53 -0500
From: michelbe@login.net (Michel)
Subject: Hi-Lift Jack

There is a web page for the Hi-Lift Jack where you will find details and
phone + fax numbers of the company. Rest of the site is cool too. The adress
is: <http://www.4x44u.com/pub/k2/am4x44u/truck_stop/parts/hilift.htm>

Hope I got it right. If it's wrong, got it trhough the Lycos browser by
typing :<hi-lift jack> and bingo!!

Hope this helps!

Salut

Michel Bertrand
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)
1968 109 SW (in the works)
1973 88 SW (21st century project)

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:02:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Reputation of Importers (Legal SIII?)

Tim writes:

>I am considering buying a refurbished/ rebuilt Series III Land Rover 
>and have found a couple of businesses that obtain and refurbish used 
>Series III 88" Rovers in England and then import them into the U.S.  

It is not possible to legally import a SIII which was originally built as a
SIII (unless it was a '73 or '74 originally built for sale in the U.S. and
you have documentation - extremely unlikely). As was recently discussed here
cars and light trucks must be 25 years old to be imported. And then you also
need a waiver from the EPA.

The oldest SIII was built in September '71 so it will be a few months before
any SIIIs are legal. And then it will be very early ones. The 25 years is
from build date.

It is possible to legally import a 25 year old SIIA Land Rover which has been
rebuilt with SIII parts. It would need to be titled as a 25 year old and have
the original serial number plate. There are several outfits which are well
versed in this procedure.

 If Customs decides it is really a more recent SIII, possibly with an earlier
serial number plate in place of the original it will be a no-go (or worse).

David Cockey
Rochester, Michigan

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:08:42 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Replacement headlamps

Theodore S. <Theodore_S@msn.com> wrote about Hella Vision Plus headlights
and others.  Lemme tell ya' folks, those Vison Plus lights are fantastic.  
The beam cut-off is sharp and straight and the illumination is even (and 
bright!) 'Course, one of my headlamps was an *original* '72 Lucas.  Try 
<shudder> J.C.Whitless.  They (occasionally) have the Vison Plus's on sale 
for $35 apiece.  Even better, they sell replacement H-4 bulbs up to 80w.  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:09:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: There's one born every minute...D110 for sale

In response to Bill's oh so wonderful remarks, all I can say is I would 
give my eye teeth and then some for a truck such as this.  Yes, I own a 
III, and yes, it is a fine truck, but the Defender 110 is by far one of 
the best ever...

Bill, be true to the marque, and don't cop such an attitude with your 
remarks, okay?

just my 2centz...
steve
	_________________________________
	|_______|_______|_______|_______|	"Moose"
	|   ____________    |	   |	\\	'73 III 88"
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       _|    /	 OOOOO      |		    |      OOOOO    |__
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	   0  OO o 0 o OO			OO o 0 o OO
	       OO  o  OO     "Tread Lightly"     OO  o  OO
              	 OOOOO				   OOOOO
       		           Florida Rover Canvas
	Steve Swiger   
	swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu
	(813) 874-5391
	(813) 253-0905 (Work)

On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, WILLIAM ADAMS wrote:

> Is this price for real? Isn't this the same price for a new vehicle? Why 
> would anyone go for such a deal? Am I missing something? I've seen such 
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> 301-949-9475
> '66 Land Rover S2A 109" Station Wagon Diesel  ...all there

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:34:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Retro

Dixon:

Hey howzitgoing? Thought I'd say hello and to announce that my primal urge to 
torture myself with a Series Landy got too large to stiffle any longer and I 
picked up a *1967* Air portable lightweight!! Yes, I know I'm brain damaged...

Hope to have it either at Owl's Head, Stowe (most likely) and/or Fall 
Heritage.

cheers
Jim

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From: "David J. Mercer" <merkin@sierra.net>
Subject: RE: Salisbury axles FS
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:52:48 -0800

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	how much do you want for the SALISBURY AXLES ? ? ?

					DAVID MERCER
					merkin@sierra.net
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From: 	Dixon Kenner[SMTP:dkenner@emr1.emr.ca]
Sent: 	Thursday, March 21, 1996 3:45 AM
Subject: 	Re: Salisbury axles FS

> as I am converting my 109 onto RR axles w. coils, my sal. axles
> are surplus.  75k miles.  Anyone interested? what are they worth?
	Am interested, but don't really know what they are worth.
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:19 GMT+0200
From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
Subject: Grafton in SA

Hi

Yesterday being a public holiday, I went down to Muizenberg and located the
Zandvlei caravan park. People at the gate knew exactly where the bunch of
mad englishmen with the couple of Land Rovers were parked. Found Andy &
company sunning themselves :-)

So I had a nice chat with Andy, looked at the Landies, etc. They're trying
to sell the Landies and some loose stuff, problem is that the import duty is
_90% of the assessed value!!!_ Ouch! So, assuming they sell the vehicles for
the appraised value, they only get out 10% of the selling price. Is this
true of, say, England as well? I asked around, the advice seems to be 1.
Ship the landies back to UK, 2. Set them alight and claim from Carnet
insurance, 3. Strip them bare before selling.

Anyway, it seems that they'll still be around 'till next week sometime.

Wouter
--
Wouter de Waal ZS1KE  GE>AT d-(pu) s+:-- a- C++$ UL+ U*+$ P>++ L++ E- W N+++>++
Argo 505 / FT200      !o K w(--) !O !M V(--) PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP>++ t 5? X? R?
                      tv>--- b+++ DI+ D+ G e+++(*) h--- r+++ y+++(*)

'72 Puma - 1700 FI Type IV engine                          Perseverance my son,
'6? Series IIA SW - factory fitted Lucas immobiliser         it's a   Land/
                                                                       /Rover
"All journeys end when we reach our destination but the journeying
remains a thing apart, unique unto itself. Most of us make life's journeys
without understanding that the journeying is a separate thing." -- Bob Hoover

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 23:54:21 -0800
From: jory bell <jory@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Hole Spe(cifi)cs for Alpine Windows?

I have a pair of alpine windows I am going to install in my 88" hardtop.
Does anyone have a template for the holes to be cut for the windows?
Lacking this, what is the gap between the windows and the metal necessary
to accomodate the rubber (ie how much bigger should the cutouts be than the
windows themselves).

Thanks in advance,

jory bell

ps: I am in Bermuda (at the biostation) this week. Any land rover owners on
the island? I haven't seen any rovers around, but you'd think given the
ties to Britain...

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From: Andrew Chambers <c2ac@dmu.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:11:26 GMT

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