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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 08:03:30 -0500
Subject: Weber valve cooker?

Well, we got another Rover. One of them coil sprung jobs ( '84 RR), so I
won't elaborate too much about that here. We rented a car, drove out to
Michigan, got it and drove it home. And stupid me, I forgot Trevor's phone
number and the directions to his house. I left them right next to the phone
when I called and left a message that we were leaving, then rushed out to the
car and left. A classic stupid blunder! I had wanted to visit with them, and
had considered that would have been a high point of our journey, but as it
was I think I disappointed them; I know I was disappointed! Hopefully they'll
visit on their way to 'DownEast' ( I need his navigatory skills to get
there), and we can play a few rounds of 'push the Rover'!

Upon return, I think my '61 88" SW daily driver was upset seeing the newer
vehicle. And then I parked it right next to it, and actually jumped the
series vehicle with it the next morning! I guess it was just too much insult.
Later that very same day, I experienced a hard (cranking, but not firing)
starting situation. I stuck my head out the window, and could hear it
wheezing through the carb! Valves. It started and drove for 1 1/2 days until
I tore it down. (only by necessity). It was a bad exhaust valve on #4
cylinder.  I found #3 exhaust was cracked as well. I lapped in good used
valves (got them from Bruce at DAP, N/C), as well as lapped all other valves,
and am saving my pennies for a Stellite conversion. The head that lost the
valves was a scavagened head that was hastily R&R'ed about 60K ago. I only
quickly inspected the valves as I replaced the seals (while watching TV), and
didn't re-lap them at that time. My problems could have origins from that,
but I'm now seriously wondering if I'm not running too lean? The coolant was
just a bit low, but not significantly so, oil was fine. Existing head gasket

I asked  this sometime last year, and I think Jimi Patrick (?) was the only
response.  Does anyone here have any data on the weber 1 barrel as it applies
to a series vehicle? I have a Haynes manual that covers only the 2 barrel
versions. And does anyone have a good source for new jets for the same? The
vehicle drives at sustained speeds of 60 mph for periods of up to an hour,
several times a day. Maybe I should use an additive (steeroids?)? I seem to
remember TerriAnn periodically telling people webers run too lean. I hope the
list chaos hasn't sent good info sources away!  I need your experiences. Come
out, come out, where ever you are!
 Thanx,
See 'ya on the old road...
Jim '60 P5 (628000165)
       '68 P6 SC Auto
       '68 P6 TC
       '61 LR 88" SW / 16's 1Bbl Weber & OD (econobox?) "Nicky" (new name!!)
       '84 RR 
LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!

"Virtue is not hereditary" ......... Thomas Paine

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 10:27:35 +0000
From: RMILLER@Middlebury.edu (Raoul Miller)
Subject: Forest Rover

I was just looking over Lloyd Allison's web pages and saw his new addition
about Forest Rovers.  I have a photo (taken in 1988) of the series 2 (a?)
Forest Rover at the Wallingford Research Station.  I wonder if it is still
there.  I can scan in the slide and send it to someone's web page if you
like.  The nice thing is that the phots shows it parked right next to a
series 2a and shows how much larger it is.  Just a nice historical note.
Was this the original "monster truck"?
Cheers,
Raoul Miller

Raoul Miller
Dept. Of Geography
Middlebury College
Middlebury, VT 05753
(802)388-3711 X5210

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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:39:39 -0500
Subject: Re: National driving skills

In a message dated 96-03-08 23:44:55 EST, you write:

>We now take you back to our regular world, already in progress...
>Cheers
>Mike

:>) top notch Mike. :>)
JOhn.

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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:39:33 -0500
Subject: Re: exhaust snorkels

In a message dated 96-03-08 18:30:50 EST, you write:

>Only one problem, though....
>unspent hydrocarbons.  None of us, myself included, could handle more
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>timing, adjust the valves, and a leaner carb, but I'm looking for a 
>quicker fix.

Well, you had better hurry, the Federal government, the Fed EPA, and the
Treasury, are right now creating a whole docket of regualations on towing
pleasure craft behind spark-ignited and compression-ignited land craft.  Of
course you'll be exempt if you convert your truck to electric, otherwise
you'll need to add electrically heated catalytic converters (2 for a V8), air
assisted injectors for the EFI versions, or an electronic carb for those with
carbs, auxiliary air injection pump with outlets into the exhaust manifold,
the exhasut pipe must exit a minimum of 9 inches outside the body, and also
somewehre within 60% of the vehicle's length to the FRONT of the vehicle.  Of
course you'lll also need a three way catalytic converter too (grass fires
offroad? Be damned...).  

And of course, the work has to be checked by a centrally located, state run
and sponsored testing center where you drop the vehicle off and they actually
hook up a test sled behind your truck, wait for snow, and then tow it and
measure HC emissions.  The sled is equipeed with FID (flame ionization
detector) HC instrument, CO monitors, speed transducers, and a
data-acquisiton computer.    

This will solve all your problems.

Brought to you by your big brother at your Local Federal Government.

John, 94 D90, headers, holley 4 barrel, egr valve removed, advanced ignition
timing, aviation gas, jacked up rear end, you know the story...

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:32:53 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: Temp. Tags

Dear All,
        A post said today that the temp. tags I spoke of don't releive you
of a state inspection. Well the thing I was talking about is not a TEMP.
Tag, but a TRANSPORT tag. In Maine, and a few other states I have lived in
you show your insurance card, pay the fee, and have a plate to drive on
valid for 10 days from Point A to Point B. It DOES exempt you from the
state inspection, at least in my state. I have been pulled over many times
on Transport tags, and never got a ticket, becaust it is the legal way to
go about moving a new vehicle back to your state, or town, without a tow
truck. A temp. won't do it, but a transport plate will! I have driven many
uninspectable vehicles on the highway with transport tags since my driving
career began, so get the correct plate and you are exempt from ALL but
insurance. Your state may vary, or not even have the Transport Tag at all,
but that is one of the many reasons that ECR is located way up in Maine, a
very easy state to get along with.
        One more thing about the RR or Defender axles in a Series. Unless
you want to fit wheel flares, you'll have to switch to a max. offset wheel.
The old 16 inch 231601's work great, as do the steel Discovery spare
wheels. These used with a 7.50 x 16 or smaller are right on the border of
what is legal. If you use a 272309, you'll have to fit flares to cover the
tread.
        Thanks to those who emailed saying I could advertise on the digest,
or send them stuff directly. I agree with the previous email, you all know
we are here, and if you want something you'll ask for it. I don't think the
digest is the time or place to slap piles of used vehicles on you, so I'm
staying semi- non-commercial. *Is that a word?* I may toss out the
occasional used parts for cheap that some of you may need though. I read
and input on stuff on the digest for fun. I just happen to own a company.
Hope you all understand that.
        See ya!

Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:34:03 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: exhaust snorkels

 rd/nige writes:

> Anyone ever hear of a retro-inverso snorkel for the exhaust?

No, but it seems like a logical part of a deep wading kit, if you do 
it alone. Stalling in deep water could cause serious problems for 
your engine. I've designed an exhaust snorkel, in my mind at least.
A modified end to the exhaust, a quick connect like on fire hoses 
(only smaller) or something like that that's water tight. A 
matching end on your snorkel would allow easy attachment for when you 
deed to ford deep water, without the worry if you stall.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 18:34:09 +0000
From: John Cassidy IV <rovah@agate.net>
Subject: Series IIA WIng panel Wanted

Does anyone have a front wing panel for the passenger side off of a 
series IIA.  Pleas E-mail me direct if you have one to sell.

Cheers !  John Cassidy  Bangor, Maine

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 00:14:12 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Semi-noncommercial (was: Temp. Tags)

On 3/9/96, Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co. <ecrover@midcoast.com> wrote:
:     Thanks to those who emailed saying I could advertise on the digest,
:or send them stuff directly. I agree with the previous email, you all
:know we are here, and if you want something you'll ask for it.

 Old subscribers may know you semi-noncommercial types are there, but not
 the new subscribers.  So put the word out once in awhile, and even do a
 signature file to your posts that offers more information --I think three
 lines is the accepted norm.  I don't mind hearing about marketplace info,
 trucks and parts for sale, in fact, that's one of the main reasons I'm on
 the list :)

:I may toss out the occasional used parts for cheap that some of you need.

 Toss away!

 Cheers,

                         ______
 Michael Carradine       [__[__\==                    Rumpole of the Bay
 510-988-0900            [________]               Land-Rover Roughmobile
 cs@crl.com  __________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^  '65 IIA 2.235m (was 88")
 _______________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover 4x4 Connection WWW page:   http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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