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From: mobart@coop.crn.org (The Barstow School)
Subject: ARB Lockers
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:15:09 -0600 (CST)

	I was one of the unfortunate people who got lockers with the
defective U-seals.  Talk about a maddening ordeal especially when the
 warranty retailer is 300 miles away in the middle of nowhere.  Air lockers
are nice....WHEN THEY WORK!

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:33:02 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: VTR National Convention

This is not exactly Rover... but it might be of interest to some.

The 1996 Vintage Triumph Register National Convention will be held in Albany
NY, July 10 to 14 this year. It's a pretty good time if you like Triumphs -
the last time for Albany was in 1989 and over 300 Triumphs showed up. The
convention is being hosted by the Adirondack Triumph Association.

This year they are holding the Concours on Saturday (Jul 13) in Central Park
in Schnectady. The ATA has been hosting an all-British car show there for
the past few years so this year they will have an area of the field for just
Triumphs and another area of the field for other British cars. It would be
nice to have a bunch of Rovers show up this year. One year we had seven -
including Jim Pappas' 109FC - and the Land Rovers literally stopped the show. 

It's a dilemma for me - do I take the Triumph or the Rover?? Both, if I can! :)

Anyone interested in more information, send me a message.

Cheers
  
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.                  1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green     
Gloversville                       1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY  12078  (USA)        7          1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
                     #:-}>

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:16:40 -0500
Subject: re:frozen clutch

Does the pedal have pressure? Is the system bleedable? And does the
mechanical portion beyond the slave cylinder respond? And lastly, how cold
was it? If it was _very_ cold, bleedable system w/no air, and no movement
beyond the slave, then the following might help. Otherwise it could be worn
pin fittings, as suggested, but that should have given warnings prior to
failure.
My experience last winter (when -30F) was that I had no clutch, a situation
that I found very similarily to yours. I tried bleeding it, and was getting
no air, only clean fluid. It turned out that the master cylinder seals had
lost their resilience, or the bore had warped due to wear/age/cold.
Apparently the seals were just moving through the fluid, and not giving
enough pressure for clutch activity, but enough for bleeding. The master
cylinder was honed and new seals placed. Everything worked fine... until this
winter. Same temperature, same problem. I replaced the master cylinder this
time, as well as the piping and the flex hose. The slave cylinder was
replaced last Sept. during my 'trials by tranny' R&R fiasco. My suggestion
would be, if any of the above makes sense, just replace the master, don't
rebuild it. This year I verified the effects of temperature on 'the old bore'
by applying a heat gun to the cylinder before replacement. Sure enough, the
system became more active during the heating. Upon cooling (back down to
about -18F), the problem re-worsened. (maybe a new word?). And yes it was
that cold during the repair!
Gee, it's great to be back.
My clutch tip: I "saturnized" the clutch slave cylinder access hole in the
foot well by cutting two *small* flaps that fold out of the way to enable
quick and accurate turning of the bleeder by a 6 pt. box wrench. No more
buggered points on the bleed nipple. It may be a 'tacky' thing to do, but it
enables a 'speed bleed' when necessary (hopefully not soon!).
see 'ya on the old road...
jim   '61 88"  SW  w/OD, weber 1 bbl & 16's (econobox?)
LR... quite possible one of the best machines yet devised! 

P.S. am currently looking for used RR, (88 or prior vintage)

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:23:39 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Three Cheers, Sorry no Beers!

> Now that Majordomo of the international list in the Bay Area maybe we 
> Left Coasters should introduce him to the Albatross (Berkeley) or 
> Hannigan's (Los Gatos)  or the BBC (British Bankers' Club in Menlo 
> Park), whatever is most convenient.

Or maybe the Edinburgh Castle in San Francisco?  Anyone game?  Maybe 
afterwork sometime?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: Treski@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:39:21 -0500
Subject: Re: ARB Lockers

what the fuck!!!!!!!       so iif i get them,  they wont be defective??
   cool   

 what are you doing??     did you get the british pacific  flyer?  it has
cool shit in  it!11

call me  -- tre

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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 00:02:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: ARB Lockers

On Mon, 5 Feb 1996 Treski@aol.com wrote:

>  what are you doing??     did you get the british pacific  flyer?  it has
> cool shit in  it!11

	Hi Taylor!

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From: SACME@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 00:29:54 -0500
Subject: LR/marine connection and the Birmabright Brotherhood

While seated on the throne today, I picked up one of the many marine supply
catalogs I get and realized that it was loaded with 12 volt items that could
fit well in our LR's.  I won't use up precious bandwidth with a list, but
simply encourage all to have a looksee. Marine products are designed to stand
up to a saltwater environment, so they should do very well on even the
salt-laden roads of the US northeast. (I was looking at the electric and
compressor-type air horns - what fun to pull up behind a JGC or other
faux-Rover and make a noise like the QE2!)

'Nother subject.  I recently had a beautiful example of the way in which LR
owners support each other.  My son, Andy, left Maine on Sunday, 1/21, headed
for college in Bronxville, NY, in our (his) newly purchased Series III.  On
I-84, just before I-684 that goes south toward NYC, the alternator froze up
solid.  Bang goes the fanbelt.  It's about 9 p.m. on a Sunday...the pits!
 Andy had made it to an exit and was at a convenience store, which was just
about to close.  He called me in Maine and I suggested that he contact the
local police, who would know the local motels and help him get a tow (his
total possessions were in the car, including his computer - not what you want
to leave just anywhere.  After we hung up, I had the idea of going back over
my LR digests and seeing if anyone was in the area where Andy was stranded.
 I found Eric Zipkin in Bedford, NY, who, thank God, includes his town and
phone number in his digest messages.  I called him, and I can only say that
he was immediately ready to move heaven and earth to help a total stranger
whose only credential was being stuck in a LR. He offered to dig his trailer
out of a snowbank and go get my son and LR, and then put both up for the
night.  I had no way of getting back to my son and had to wait for him to
call, and when he did he had gotten a motel room and had had the car towed.
 I gave him Eric's phone number and asked him to call him right away and
express his and my thanks for the very generous offer of assistance.   

Eric, you are a golden example of what being a LR owner is all about.  Please
accept my deepest thanks - you lifted a great weight off a concerned father's
shoulders, just by my knowing that you were ready to help if needed. 

To Eric Lipkin and all other LR (No, make that "Solihull Product" ) owners:
 If you are in the vicinity of Maine and have a problem, I will help. The
coffee pot is on and the tools and shop are ready to go to work. 

A couple more items re the above and then I'll shut up...I promise.  On
Monday morning, at Eric's suggestion, Andy called Bryan Davies in New
Preston, CT. Bryan not only delivered a new alternator to Andy at a pittance
for the transport, but, after Andy and I made a valiant, but unsuccessful,
attempt to get a bank to advance cash on Andy's AMEX card, agreed to let me
send him a check.  As a backup, I had called AB in Mechanicville, where I
have been a customer for years, and they graciously agreed to vouch for my
bill-paying character to Bryan Davies, should it be necessary - it wasn't.
 My thanks to Claudette at AB, and to Bryan for extending a whole lot of
trust.

Let's resolve to keep the "Birmabright Brotherhood of LR/Defs/RR/Disco's"
going for a long, long, time!  (RRs, Defs and Discos are Birmabright too,
aren't they?).  

Doug Scott in Monmouth, Maine at 207-933-2220 and Andy Scott in Bronxville,
NY at 914-323-6638.  
2 ea. '72 Series III (one with a brand new "Lucas, Prince of Darkness"
alternator!)

       

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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 20:30:05 -1000
From: "ROGER HALL: HNL M.E. GROUP" <ROGER_H@verifone.com>
Subject: Re: ARB Lockers

I'm a new Rover owner and mailing list receiver having just bought my first 
Land Rover last week ('89 Range Rover with about 76K miles on it).

So please bear with me while I ask what could be a dumb question.  What in
heaven's name IS an ARB Locker and does it matter if I don't know?  Does it
have anything to do with sports???

Roger Hall
Haleiwa, Hi

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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:11:20 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Opening beer bottles

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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 96 6:49:25 -0500
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%Eng%EMCHOP1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: re:ARB Lockers

Air lockers are a great traction aid and have no adverse affects when 
unlocked and traveling on road. Installation is "usually" pretty straight 
foward, but sometimes you can run into a snag. The defective U seal 
problem that the earlier Air lockers had was corrected. I recommend having 
a reputable company do the installation just incase there is a problem.

Cheers
Barnett
All locked up!
Childress
95 D90
Dual Air lockers

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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:52:41 GMT
From: newconcept@tcp.co.uk (David Olley at NEW CONCEPT)
Subject: Re: ARB Lockers

> What in heaven's name IS an ARB Locker and does it matter if I don't know?
Does it
>have anything to do with sports???

An ARB Locker is a special cabinet in the rear of a Land Rover where the ARB
is kept. Mainly for Military use, the ARB, or Automatic Re Breather, is used
for deep wading. You may have noticed that the intake snorkels fitted to
Land Rovers are about 12 inches above the crew's heads. Clearly the crew
needs to be able to breathe as well. This apparatus is used to supply air to
the crew under these circumstances.

Most ordinary 4x4 users do not need them.

David Olley
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Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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