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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:26:54 +0200
From: dbeers@eu.wang.com (David Beers)
Subject: Side-hinged rear tailboard

While thumbing through my Land Rover 90 factory parts manual in the section 
concerning rear doors, I came across a rear door labeled "Tailboard, 
side-hinged".  This appears to be a door of similar dimensions as the 
drop-down tailboard of the canvas top and pickup bodies, but with the 
peculiarity that it has the same lock assembly and side hinges as the normal 
full rear end door of the hardtop variant.  Upon looking at pictures of the 
NAS spec Defender, it appears that it might be that door.

My question is the following:  Has this side-hinged tailboard been specced 
on any European market models (perhaps the limited edition 90SV)?

I would like to know the probability of finding one of said doors with a 
Land Rover breaker in the vicinity of Belgium/UK/Holland.  (OK, I'll admit 
that the real reason I ask is that I am looking into the possibility of 
converting my 90 Hard Top to something resembling a NAS Defender, while 
keeping the economy of my turbodiesel engine.)

Thanks for your help,

David

David Beers                      1989 Land Rover 90 TD HT
Wang Europe
Brussels, Belgium
Email dbeers@eu.wang.com

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 08:19:16 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Off we go...

          500 miles north into the "wild country" of upstate
          New York, to fetch my first Rover, a SIII swb,
          currently owned by Guy Arnold. I'm driving up with
          my Honda, a tankful of rice, a lot of tools, and
          last but not least, my friend Nancy (god bless
          her). Spares for the trip back, plus a LR key fob,
          are being sent to Guy's house in Potsdam.  We'll
          be caravanning back, since towing isn't an option
          (the Landy can do the job, but I've been told not
          to do it) We plan on camping at least one night on
          the way back, as well as taking the scenic route
          along Lake Ontario. All this should add up to at
          least a mild adventure, but not totally Roveresque
          since there won't be any lions, rhinos, or
          off-road driving involved (Honda's ground
          clearance is about two inches). By the way, Sandy
          and Dixon, mebership checks are in zee mail.
          Thanks everybody who pitched in with helpful
          advice, and not so helpful advice too.

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From: hugh@nezsdc.fujitsu.co.nz
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:31:34 +1200
Subject: Road trip

I'll be off the list for a few weeks.  Just got a job in Christchurch,
and I'm driving down there (in the landrover, of course) on Thursday
and Friday.  Just yesterday in fact the landy was still in pieces in
the garage.  A bit of hurried work over the weekend saw the various
body parts refitted, and with a new battery this morning it started for
the first time in about two months.  A bit smoky, but she goes.  Let's
just hope she goes all the way.

As soon as I get a new email address, in about a month I'd guess, I'll
be back. 

Cheers,
Hugh

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:10:30 +0000
Subject:       Re: 

On  1 Aug 95, usssbkpy@ibmmail.com wrote:

> >Starting last week, when I use the turn signal (left or right), the
> >panel light with the trailer picture will flash along with the turn
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> have a trailer  on mine, either. I've learned not to worry about it, as
> long as the turn signal works
The lamp is a warning lamp - it's tellinh you that either the trailer is 
not connected, or the lamp has blown

(I've got a similar "problem" with my SIII - it took ages to trace the 
problem....)

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:28:15 +0000
From: andre@lunatech.com (Andre Posumentov)
Subject: Land Rover Cubby Box

Greetings all,

I'm a newcomer to the mailing list, wondering whether anyone can help with
the following:

I have a 1985 101 'Defender' (UK spec) and would like to replace the middle
front seat with a console such as the one fitted to export model Land
Rovers. Where possible, the one fitted to current U.S. specification
vehicles.

My local friendly Land Rover dealer tells me that he can only order one of
these if I can supply a part number.  Land Rover won't supply a part
number, (or indeed  a parts book) unless you have a US chassis number to
quote them.  And so on, in ever-decreasing circles...

Does anyone know of a reliable source from whom I might be able to track
down either the part no. that I need, or the item itself??

regards,
-- andre

-----------------------------------------------
Andre Posumentov
andre@lunatech.com

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Fans
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:37:00 DST

The local equivalent (NA)(?) to the Kenlowe Fan is a Hayden (sp?) which is 
available in a variety of sizes to fit a variety of radiators. I am using a 
12" and no mechanical fan and have been quite satified with its performance. 
I believe that Dave Lowe tried a Kenlowe and replaced it because of poor 
cooling. The fan can be bought as a kit with a relay unit that has a 
thermistor unit which inserts into the radiator fins and turns on when it 
reaches a preset (adjustable) temperature. The fan draws about 10 amps when 
running and can be configured to suck or blow. The fan has high efficiency 
blades and a shroud to increase air flow. It attaches directly to the 
surface of the radiator fins with plastic ties. With hindsight I would 
choose the 14 inch fan to get slightly more flow and cooling when off road 
and working hard at slow speeds.

Trevor Easton, Grimsby, Ontario

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From: Anthony Verriello <verriello_anthony@jpmorgan.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:44:24 -0400
Subject: D90 winch package

Can anybody give me advice on a winch for my D90...The dealer wants $2000 for a 
winch package plus installation (another $300) or so.  With tax this is about $2500.

Does the winch package replace my bumper/bull bar or bolt to it?  They showed me a 
D90 with a winch and it had a totally different bumper/bull bar (that was a 95 mine is
a 94 if that makes a difference).  The person I spoke to really wasn't able to tell
me exactly what the winch package for a 94 D90 was.  Also is there a cheaper way out?  

Would be interested to hear what other 90 owners use.  

I am new to the list so if this is an old topic please forgive.

verriello_anthony@jpmorgan.com
        
 +-+--+-@
 |_|_/|__\__ 
 | _  |' |_ |} (Dagwood...named for his voracious appetite,
 =(_)=+==(_)'             petrol not sandwiches)

'94 black D90
(happiness is pulling a jeep out of a hole)

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: D90 winch package

On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Anthony Verriello wrote:
> Can anybody give me advice on a winch for my D90...The dealer wants $2000 for a 
> winch package plus installation (another $300) or so.  With tax this is about $2500.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> a 94 if that makes a difference).  The person I spoke to really wasn't able to tell
> me exactly what the winch package for a 94 D90 was.  Also is there a cheaper way out?  

Dear Anthony:
I have a '94 D90. In order to be able to *pay* for accessories that I 
wanted, I ordered the factory winch, brushbar and front "engine 
protection plate" at the time of purchase so that they could all be 
rolled into the "new car loan". The winch for the '94 sits behind and 
below the stock bumper and has a non-roller fairlead. It is 
out-of-the-way in this configuration. The drawback to this set-up is that 
the control lever (engage/disengage) is not visible (operate by "feel") 
and the cable spool is close to body parts so that if your spooling isn't 
perfect so that cable piles up on one end or another, there is very 
little clearance: have to pull a bit, back off to neatly re-spool, 
re-pull, etc. which can be quite a hassle. The winch that came with the 
'94 package is a Warn 8000, but a review of the '94 D90 in Four Wheeler 
magazine last year said that they thought the power of the winch was less 
because of the way it was wired in the Land Rover factory option set-up. 
In essence, the '94 factory option looks good, but may be inconvenient as 
noted above.
Rover's North has a winch/bumper option which has the winch sitting 
behind and above a galvanized bumper which looks like it would be much 
more convenient than my "hidden" winch. Also, I have seen a number of 
winches that D-90 owners had installed from Truck or 4WD shops that made 
a custom set-up with a more accessable winch than the '94 factory option. 
Either of these routes is less expensive than the factory option.

I haven't seen a '95 factory winch on a D-90, but in a brochure for '95 I 
believe that there was a photo of an above/behind bumper mount (but I 
don't know if that is what is actually offered by Land Rover, or if it 
would "fit" on a '94...)

I suggest that you phone Rovers North for their opinion, and I am sure 
that others will reply in the LRO digest.

Best wishes,
David Rosenbaum

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:33:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: First message

All,
    I have just subscribed to this list, and have an eensy suggestion
    for the info file: nowhere does it say where to send messages *to*
    to send them out to the list!

    By looking at the headers of the several messages that have arrived
    since I subscribed, I believe I know where to send them.  (If you
    get this, I was right, heh heh heh...)

    Just so the whole message isn't a waste of bandwidth, I'll introduce
    myself: I'm Duncan Brown, I'm 33, and I live in Earlysville, Virginia
    in the USA.  I drive a 1960 Series II 88 with a canvas top, and I
    have owned it about 5 years.  It was almost completely stock Series
    II when I purchased it, and I have tried to keep it that way...but
    because it is my only transportation I have slowly succumbed to the
    harsh realities of dependability vs. originality.

    My biggest breach of Series II karma is coming up the beginning of
    September: I'm going to drive the beast up to Rovers North in
    Vermont and drop a Turner Engineering long block in it.  I have been
    inside my engine several times already doing sleazy things like
    putting new rings in and replacing a gouged piston so I know its
    days are numbered.  I can *sense* the worn main bearings in there
    (Zen and the Ownership of Early Land Rovers).  I have to take it on
    this 14 hour trek while it can still make it under its own power.

    I'll keep the original engine of course, and across the years if I
    can come up with all of the parts to rebuild it (things like
    bearings are officially "NLA"), I'll do so and restore it to its
    rightful chassis.

    Land Rovers: nobody can own just one!   I also have a 1966-ish 109
    Station Wagon that could most kindly be called "in kit form".  I
    have about 90% of the parts required to build a running vehicle,
    they just don't all happen to be bolted on in the proper places at
    the moment.  All I need is a little time and money...

    That's all for now, looking forward to being on the list!

    Duncan

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:50:14 -0700
From: matts@caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)

Until April I lived in the area, Tahoe actually.  I didn't know any other 
Rover owners, but I can offer two pieces of info:  

1. I believe there's only 1 LR dealer and/or mechanic in the area, Scott 
Motors, primarily a Cadillac/Buick dealer.  They're on South Virginia in the 
middle of Reno, very easy to find.

2. There's an outfit in Livermore (I can't remember the name at the moment, 
West Coast British or something I think) that not only specializes in LR's, 
but also gives offroading classes of various difficulties.  Most of their 
classes are conducted in the Reno area.  I never took one, but I always 
wanted to.  If you want more info, let me know and I'll dig out a catalog.

-Matt
'88 RR

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Date: 14 Aug 95 12:53:11 EDT
From: "R. Pierce Reid" <70004.4011@compuserve.com>
Subject: Fire Apparatus for Sale

Folks:

Is anyone interested in a set of parts needed to build a Land Rover fire tender?
Includes tanks, pumps, hoses, bell/lights, nozzles,grab handles, rear hand
throttle, pressure gauges, bed-mount storage cabinets, etc?  Basically all parts
needed to turn an 88 into a fire truck.

This is coming off a Series 1 fire tender which was bought unseen from UK Land
Rovers for a collection, supposedly with only 3K miles on it and never outdoors.
Unfortunately, the condition is not as described, and it needs total
reestoration.  Given the original high investment, it is not worth my time or
more $$$ to restore as a fire engine.  So I am breaking it and using what parts
I can salvage to build an 88 SI pickup. 

All the fire parts are good, though and will bolt right on to a Series Land
Rover.  The pump is pictured in the LR manual under the accessories section. 

Location is in Vermont in the U.S. (Stowe, where the British Invastion will be
held).  No price set, but open to reasonable offers and more interested in a
good home than in big bucks.

Cheers, 

R. P. Reid

 

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:08:41 -0700
From: matts@caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
Subject: Tires for 88 RR

I ended up with 225 light truck tires on mine.  They are not S rated.  My 
understanding is that the S rating means they're good to go very fast, like 
100 mph, and generally only passenger care tires have the S rating.  Light 
truck tires never do.  I believe the only 205 S-rated tire is the one from 
Michelan.  I don't have any direct experience, but comments here on the net 
indicate that the Michelan tire has a better road ride than any other tire 
you can get for the Range Rover.

-Matt

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From: chris.youngson@deepcove.com
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:44:18 
Subject: 16" RADIALS FOR SER

Just a note on the Michelen xcl's. I was going to fit them to my truck about
six monthes ago and I phoned our local hard-to-get tire store. He had them in
stock in 7.50 x 16, 9.00 x 16 and 11.50 x 20 (for Unimogs). The 9.00 x 16's
were 380.00 CDN + 14% tax. The 7.50's were slightly less. This was from a very
good source. 

PS thats 380 each, 2166 for five includeing taxes. New truck time!

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:26:25 -0500
From: elsmain!wmaloney@els004.attmail.com (William Maloney)
Subject: The Cost of Inflation

Or is that the inflation of cost?

Recently as I was about to order a valve cover gasket from Rovers North I 
noticed that the price for the part had almost doubled.  I called RN 
and spoke to Chris and he verified the price.  Looking a bit further I noticed 
the head gasket sets had more than doubled.  So while passing the time one 
boring rainy weekend a couple of weeks ago I noted the more significant 
changes for Series (2.25 gas unless otherwise noted) parts between 94 and 95 
catalogs.  The UK folks should get a chuckle out of our parts costs 
(1 pound = $1.60 US).

Part                     OLD US$      NEW US$

2.25 gas short block     1795         2250
2.25 diesel short block  2200         2600
2.25 diesel long block   2750         3500
2.25 deisel complete     4740         5350
Rocker shaft              139.90       169
Vertical cam drive gear   135           98.40  (down)
Front crank seal            8           11.90
Military crank pulley     145          185.50
Starter dog                39           54.50
Cam gear                   55           85
Crank gear                 35           59
Cyl head O-haul Kit       355          405
Head gasket set            35.50        85.50 !!!!
Valve cover gasket          4            7.95 !!!!
Diesel VC gasket            4.50         8.50 !!!!
Solex rebuild kit          39.50        75.50 !!!!
Military fuel cap          12.95        34.50 Whoa!
88 fuel draw tube          39.50        75.50 !!!!
109 SW fuel draw tube      39.50        75.50 !!!!
109 SW sending unit       198          229.25
Coolant overflow tank      24.95        37.50
Water pump                119.50       225 It wasn't high enough already???
Mansfield heater base     499          599
Mansfield heater full     598          698
OD                        695          850
OD mainshaft              185          234.30
OD top cover               17.25        39.50 !!!!
OD in/out synchro hub     185.95       240
Track rod assy.	          199          224.60
Steering stabilizer        65           75
109 2.25 R brake shoes     65           79
Diff ring&pinion 3.54     325          515
Spider spindle             15.95        25.50
IIA threaded wheel stud     3.10        10.50 !!!!
IIA press fit wheel stud    2.50         6.50
88 outer wheel bearing     29           34.50
F drive shaft             190          219
R drive shaft 88          274          349
R drive shaft 109 to 72   293.25       349
R Rear half axle           86           69  Down
L Rear half axle           89           70  Down
L Footwell replacement     80          102.50
R Footwell replacement     65           89.50
Door frame repair kit      49.50        65.50
Tool locker III            69           89
Tool Locker IIA            89.50       119
Mount for Bat. & filter   199          249.50
III lower dash            395          435.50
III upper dash            258          299
Top for heat duct III      20           37.50
IIA grille to 68           35.50        59.50
Windscreen glass          191          223.50
Door mirror arm            12.50        18.50
Wiper arm, ind. motor      14.35        22.50
Blades                      9.50        12.50
Wiper motor, III          135          167.50
Brake light switch  IIA    27.50        16.50 (is this a misprint?)
Distributor wire set       19.95        38.50
88 Speedo                 175          195
109 Speedo                175          235
IIA ignition switch to 66  64.95        72

There were more, but I got kind of punchy after a while.

I wouldn't mind if they did this and the other vendors went on their merry 
way, but ABP & DAP etc will look at these prices and say, "hey, if RN can 
boost their prices, we can surely raise ours".

I can understand the cost of inflation, but it is currently in the single 
digits.  I could also understand the fluctuation of the pound/dollar 
relationship, but it has been steady at $1.60/L.  

Does anyone in the know have any idea as to whether these increases were set 
by LR or is this a local thing?  Have series parts prices in the UK increased 
correspondingly?

Bill

wmaloney@els004.attmail.com

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:53:25 -0500
From: elsmain!wmaloney@els004.attmail.com (William Maloney)
Subject: Speedo Calibration numbers

I'm going to send my broken speedometer for my 88 with 15" wheels to Nisongers 
to get it rebuilt ($105 including return shipping).  What I need is the 
speedometer calibration number for a 109 speedo for 7.50 x16 tires.  Bob said 
it comes after the SN but I haven't been able to locate it.  Does anyone have 
this info?

Also, he has a IIA parts manual for sale $25 and several other Land Rover and 
Rover car manuals from the 50s and 60s.  Just thought I would pass it on.

Bob's address is:

Nisonger
570 Mamaroneck Ave,
Mamaroneck, NY 10543
914-381-1952

Thanks for your help.

Bill

wmaloney@els004.attmail.com

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:54:43 PDT
From: grea@net.gov.bc.ca (Gordon Rea 660-0216 (NTO Vanc.))
Subject: LR SII for sale in Vancouver B.C.,Canada.

Saw this in the Local paper
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1961 SII 109" 5 door  with PTO winch.
$C5300.
Phone 604-540-9344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is in New Westminster (a suburb of Vancouver)
B.C. Canada. 

Gordon,

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:27:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: Speedo Calibration Numbers (is that for swimsuits?)

> I'm going to send my broken speedometer for my 88 with 15" wheels to Nisongers 
> to get it rebuilt ($105 including return shipping).  What I need is the 
> speedometer calibration number for a 109 speedo for 7.50 x16 tires.  Bob said 
> it comes after the SN but I haven't been able to locate it.  Does anyone have 
> this info?

    I faxed him a list of things I'd like to get rebuilt just last
    week...and haven't heard back yet.  Maybe I should call on the
    phone?

    All of my Series II speedometers have the number "1504".  (It's the
    number to the right of the part number, on the lower half of the
    center of the faceplate.)  I believe, empirically, that this is the
    number for 15" wheels so I too am interested in what the proper
    number for 16" wheels is, as that's what I'm running.  The number is
    supposedly the number of revolutions per mile that the speedometer
    is designed for.

    I can't think of any reason that there'd be a difference between 88
    and 109 versions.  Same transmission, transfer case, and rear axle
    gear ration.

    I've seen a Nisonger-rebuilt combo temp/oil gauge.  If he does that
    good a job on a speedometer for only $105, I'm psyched!  I'll report
    back once all my stuff's rebuilt (assuming I ever make contact with
    him...)

    Duncan

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:38:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: The In of Costflation

> Recently as I was about to order a valve cover gasket from Rovers North I 
> noticed that the price for the part had almost doubled.  I called RN 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> catalogs.  The UK folks should get a chuckle out of our parts costs 
> (1 pound = $1.60 US).

    I had also noticed this with the water pump, when pricing parts for
    my upcoming engine swap.  I have twice rebuilt my Series II water
    pump, as the incredibly rare original new pump is an outrageous $160
    or so most places.  I envied IIA owners would could plunk down $100
    or less and have a brand new pump.  Imagine my shock when pricing
    one of those pumps for my upcoming IIA engine and now the Series II
    price starts to look good!  $225?!  I asked if it was a misprint and
    they said no....  I'll be buying a rebuilt one.

    I can only imagine there have been religious wars over parts
    suppliers and Genuine vs. aftermarket parts on this list in the
    past, and I certainly don't want to start one of those.  But I have
    had some...um..."interesting" experiences with non-Genuine parts
    from to-remain-nameless parts suppliers, and have come to respect
    the extra value one gets from dealing with Genuine Parts and
    especially when dealing with Rovers North.

    But if Land Rover has just decided to double their prices, I may
    become a convert, an afertmarket parts heathen.  Who can afford the
    "real" stuff at those prices?  If Rovers North is the source of the
    price increase, that's even worse!  (but market forces would correct
    that pretty quickly, making them repair their prices or lose all
    their business...)  I would very much like to hear The Story on
    this, if anyone knows it.

    Duncan

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:03:54 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: The Cost of Inflation

 William Maloney <elsmain!wmaloney@els004.attmail.com> writes:

>I wouldn't mind if they did this and the other vendors went on their merry 
>way, but ABP & DAP etc will look at these prices and say, "hey, if RN can 
>boost their prices, we can surely raise ours".

 And now UK vendors will raise their prices to US customers too!

-Michael Carradine
 cs@crl.com

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: 	Extended warranties
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 18:43:39 EDT

J. Pappas informs us:
> RE: extended warranties 
> noticed someone was interested in info on extended warrs. 18-month extended 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> Its not cheap butgives good peace of mind and if it saves you the cost of a 
> major component failure - then it *IS* cheap!

And, for once, I have a real question.....does the extended warranty also
apply to bodywork (ie rustables)?  How about those step things (they're extras,
I believe) that seem to rot out in under 2 years?

thanks,
rd/nigel

ps and how much was that D110, anyways?     

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Subject: Re: The Cost of Inflation 
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:32:00 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

In message <199508141924.OAA23082@butler.uk.stratus.com>you wrote:
> Or is that the inflation of cost?

[Bill's price comparison deleted]

> I wouldn't mind if they did this and the other vendors went on their merry 
> way, but ABP & DAP etc will look at these prices and say, "hey, if RN can 
> boost their prices, we can surely raise ours".

	Do you actually know that RN is boosting it's prices because that
can or are you making a wild, unsubstantiated poke at RN?  Do you actually
know what Rover's prices to their vendor are?

> I can understand the cost of inflation, but it is currently in the single 
> digits.  I could also understand the fluctuation of the pound/dollar 
> relationship, but it has been steady at $1.60/L.  

	No it is not inflation.  Land Rover decided to increase the price of
their parts.  In your example of the water pump, in LR's 4th quarter 1993
price list, the list price (before dealer discounts) was L72.10 or $119.68
(the pound being closer to $1.66 if you buy less than L10,000) (RN's price
that you quoted was 119.50).  In the 1st quarter 1995 price list that
same water pump (RTC6328 btw) is L173.10 or $287.35 (RN price $225).  Now
LR has a worldwide export price list and each region has a different 
discount and the discounts vary by part.  Another note on this one is that
waterpumps have been impossible for vendors to buy recently from LR and 
just came back (so I assume that they were resourced). 

	Without going in specifics, Land Rover has raised it's price on 
almost every part.  So the vendors will have to reflect this or go out
of business.

	So Bill before you make wild accusations about a vendor, find out what
the facts are.

Ben  (who had just spent hours looking up this stuff for Bill to answer his
      questions, but Bill decided to post it to the list before I could get it
      typed in)

----------------
 Benjamin Smith
 Science Applications International Corporation
 Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake
 bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov>
Subject: Re: Land Rover Cubby Box
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:16:37 -0700 (PDT)

>>>>> Andre Posumentov writes:

> I'm a newcomer to the mailing list, wondering whether anyone can help with
> the following:

> I have a 1985 101 'Defender' (UK spec) and would like to replace the middle
> front seat with a console such as the one fitted to export model Land
> Rovers. Where possible, the one fitted to current U.S. specification
> vehicles.

> Does anyone know of a reliable source from whom I might be able to track
> down either the part no. that I need, or the item itself??

Try Rovers North in Westford, Vermont.  Their address etc:

Rovers North
Box 61 Route 128
Westford, VT 05494
(802) 879-0032
Authorized Land Rover parts supplier
Free catalog

These folks are a bit different from some of the other LR parts places 
in the US, in that they do supply Land Rovers for export from the US, and 
hopefully are ready to do other export sales, even back to the UK.

Good luck,

Walter Swain      1967 IIA 109 Safari SW, petrol
Davis, CA         1988 Range Rover

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: LR web pages moving
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:19:00 -0600 (MDT)

I am moving my web pages to a new location.  They involve fourLand Rover 
documents:

landrover.html
camel.html
lrsigs.html
lrstamps.html

at http://www.du.edu/~tomills/

Please update your links and bookmarks.  Thanks.

 
T. F. Mills
tomills@du.edu                               University of Denver Library
http://www.du.edu/~tomills                          Denver  CO 80208  USA
(NEW HOME PAGE LOCATION:  please update your links and bookmarks)

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:38:51 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: RIP Jerry

> The events of today reminded me not to put off those things that I really 
> want to do.  

I too am in the same boat.  I missed out on seeing a true Grateful Dead 
concert.  I will do my best, though, to make sure that Jerry, his music, and 
his good works won't be forgotten.  I only didn't get to see a concert;  there 
are kids who don't even realize what has been lost. 

I have been honoured to have been mistaken for Jerry Garcia on several 
occasions (I look a bit like him when my hair is long; I only wish I played 
like him).  Those are precious compliments to me.

I got on BART Wednesday evening, and sat down.  An older gentleman across the 
aisle looked at me, and handed me the front page section of the paper, the one 
with the headline.  As I read the articles, I began crying, and continued for 
most of the trip home.  

Even without being a true deadhead, Jerry's influence has shaped my life, 
sometimes without even my knowing it at the time.  

I will miss him, and I will mourn his passing for a very long time.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:20:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: MISC.

Jim sez...

 
> There it was... *authentic recreation* #12 - a series one open top with
> original dark green paint, silver wheels, and tan driver behind the RHD
> wheel! Packaged in a blister pack - the vehicle sits atop an authentic
> Matchbox collector box. Really neat! About $2.50/copy. They had eleven
> of them in stock. Now they have none.
/

You can get them here at Central Tractor. Lots of BIG toys too, like Hi-Lift
jacks, 5 gallon pails of 90Wt, mud flaps which make good floor mats, etc,
etc.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney")      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: JDPUTNAM@aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:36:22 -0400
Subject: Two simple questions

Hello again,

Once again I have 2-1/2 simple questions.

1) My '70 SIIa has pre 69 door latches on the 2 front doors.  The back door
apears to be the correct style or the SIII style ( the barrel fits through
the hole in the skin and not in the handle area as on the early style ).
 Part one, is the late SIIa door latch different from the SIII style and if
so, how?  Part two, how do i replace the tumbler ( I have the newer style
replacement tumbler )?

2) How do I water proof my distributer?.  I have tried the vasaline trick and
it does not help a bit.

Thank in advance

John Putnam
Green and alum. '70 SIIa
Beaverton, OR

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:38:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: The Cost of Inflation

I sure wouldn't buy any seals or bearings from any Land Rover dealer in 
Canada or the US.  I have noticed that any I have taken off can be 
replaced in Timkin or similar at jobber prices that are half the dealer 
prices.  I have a friend in the business and told me that for any seal or 
bearing he can measure he can supply a replacement so why go stock and 
pay through the nose.  With the new silicon glues and the old standby 
aircraft gasket maker I don't often buy ordinary seals unless the ones I 
have are really necessary.  I have purchased a set of hollow punches and 
sheet cork, rubber and synthetic gasket material and in most cases with a 
little time and patience I can duplicate most seals.  Head gaskets 
unfortunately are another kettle of fish.  Murseyside told me when I 
tried to order some locking tabs that they only use loctite now and that 
lock tabs were old technology.  I rebuilt with Loctite and the rig is 
still together.  The trick is to really clean the parts of oil before you 
put the Loctite on.  For window wiper motors drop in to your local marine 
dealer.  The chrome ones for boat windshields are just right for real 
safari doors.  They have long shafts that reach through the door glass 
surround and have a nice finishing nut.  They self park as well.  Dave VE4PN

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Subject: Hose advice
From: brian.imdieke@iotp.com (BRIAN IMDIEKE)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 20:36:00 -700

Looking for some NET wisdom here.......

OK all, how often should I replace my cooling system hoses?  My car is
three years old with 45,000 on the clock.  I live in Phoenix, AZ (HOT).
It's time to change the coolant (three years) so I'm wondering about the
hoses.......

You've heard from.....

        Brian Imdieke           <brian.imdieke@iotp.com>
        Phoenix, Arizona
        USA

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