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1 Mark Perry [rxq281@freen25Hub seals
2 JDolan2109@aol.com 22Lucas 25D4
3 Andy Dingley [dingbat@co41Split charge
4 Sanna@aol.com 30Re: Lucas 25D4
5 sommer@tammy.harvard.edu7Jimmy's board
6 BobandSueB@aol.com 20d90 top hinge/mirror on series L/R
7 BobandSueB@aol.com 12109 beats 88 (speed?)
8 BobandSueB@aol.com 12brake bleeder screws
9 ecoethic@rcinet.com 17Hy-Speed Transfer Cases
10 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr27Re: Hy-Speed Transfer Cases
11 David John Place [umplac10Re: Split charge
12 David John Place [umplac12Use of Propane
13 Treski@aol.com 10Re: The guy with the foward control etc.


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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 03:26:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Perry <rxq281@freenet.mb.ca>
Subject: Hub seals

Recent thread on leaky hub seals and oily brakes was of interest, since I 
will soon be on my third left-rear seal in as many months.
I found the thing leaking in spring, oil all over brakes, etc. (How could 
anyone not see a leaky inner hub seal would do this?) Did the RandR, 
replaced brake shoes, cleaned up mess, replaced seal. The old seal, I 
noticed was metal clad, whereas the replacement (RTC3510) has the metal 
bonded in.
I noticed the seal race/last/distance piece was scored, but hoped seal 
would hold. It didn't: two weeks later, mess again. I had the LR in the 
local garage for some other work (don't ask) and supplied a new seal race 

nonetheless, two weeks later, mess again, and diminished braking again.
I had checked the axle breather the first time and it was clear.
Assuming the installation has been done correctly, seal flush with hub, 
adequate grease, what else aside from defective parts could cause 
such a fast seal failure? It's annoying.

Mark Perry   Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
1966 Ser.IIA 88 Petrol Hardtop 
"Yes, I can see quite well over the spare tire."

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 05:48:50 -0400
Subject: Lucas 25D4

Bill Leacock wrote about the 25D4 distributor.
As a result of sheer/shear desperation, I now operate my daily driver LR with
a distributor from a 68 Rover 2000 SC automatic. It was either that or cough
up the big bucks for a new unit, as I had exhausted all my other rebuild
options. It has been performing quite well for better than 15K now. Are the
specs you mentioned that substantially different? (could differences be
eliminated by switching backing plates, advance weights, etc.?). Maybe these
two specific applications are very similar, or I'm just too numb to notice.
The reason I ask is that I must eventually replace the distributor in the
2000 SC, and thought I'd just 'pop' in a generic 25D unit (most likely from
another Rover product). The best dist. I can come up with will find itself in
the LR, but at this point, I'd rather replace one, rather than swap two. Hope
this isn't confusing.
See 'ya on the old road...
Jim  '61 88" SW / OD, 1 Bbl weber & 16's   (econobox?)
LR....quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! 

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 95 12:49:12
From: Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Split charge

> I want to put a reserve battery into our LR 

If you look at the workshop manual for a later vehicle or Rangie, 
you'll see the official way of doing it, with an ignition-activated 
relay.

I don't like this method; it's controlled by the key being turned, not 
the charge circuit being active. Additionally the use of a relay means 
that if the relay sticks closed and you try to start the engine, 
you'll toast the aux battery wiring by trying to pull a few hundred 
amps from it.

A better solution is to use an alternator-controlled relay to switch 
the aux battery charge circuit on. This only tries to charge the aux 
battery if the engine is actually running, so it's a better option if 
there's a chance the vehicle might sit with its ignition key on for 
some time, but not running.

Another useful addition is a Schottky diode in the aux charge circuit. 
This means that the aux battery can't "back feed" the main battery and 
cause the "starter fire" problem. Using both of these techniques is 
maybe slight overkill, but I'd certainly recommend at least one of them.

You might like to read the Maplin Magazine #81 (Sept '94)
They have a constructional project on quite a sophisticated split 
charge contoller. It's intended for caravan use, so it covers two 
"split" circuits, the aux battery and the trailer socket "fridge power" 
connection. It also allows the fridge to be run from the aux battery.

For your application, I think you'd do well to read the Maplin article
and wire your camper's main fuseboard up to the "fridge" circuit. This 
would give you almost everything you could want. Maplin catalogues 
are available from WH Smiths.

-- 
Andy Dingley                                      dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk                                          

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:38:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Lucas 25D4

>As a result of sheer/shear desperation, I now operate my daily driver LR
with a distributor from a 68 Rover 2000 SC automatic.

Jim - Good choice.  Many years ago with many miles on my IIa, Lulubelle, the
little quarter-size coupling that connects the distributor's drive shaft to
the cam gearing wore enough to send vibrations up through the distributor.
 The net effect of this was to break the counter-weights loose so that they
were whipped around, dragging on the inside of the distributor housing.
 Then, a few miles west of Spencer, Iowa, the dang little weights cut the
aluminum casting in half, tossing most of my distributor out onto the highway
behind me, and stranding Lulubelle and me in front of a Cambell's Soup
chicken farm.  Well the kindly farmer took us in, and I earned my keep for a
week tending to 60,000 hens while I went at getting the LR back on the road.
 This was 1974, just after British Leyland pulled out of North America and
before there was much choice in parts houses.  At that time Atlantic British
was the only game in town, and they had no distributors.  What I finally did
was to rob a distributor off a junked TC2000 and fit it to my IIa.  That same
distributor is still on her,  21 years later and at a third of a million
miles.  It may not have been an exact match, but the car has always run well,
so maybe it'll work for yours too.

Tony

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 95 11:47:00 -0400
From: sommer@tammy.harvard.edu (Michael S. Sommer)
Subject: Jimmy's board

Does anybody know how to access Jimmy's picture file without the use of the
world wide web?  Thanks in advance, Michael

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 14:35:34 -0400
Subject: d90 top hinge/mirror on series L/R

I recently read where Someone put the top hinge for a defender on a series
L/R to get the better mirrors, but the door opened like a gull wing.

A friend just experienced the same thing, and as he was looking at the left
door that he had just put it on, he was reading the unopened box for the
other side. The problem was it said LEFT on it. So when he put them on the
correct side, they fit just fine. They work ok with tie original bottom
hinges.

The thing here is they are left and right oriented.

Bob Bernard
LROA/NA Membership.
Paradise CA.

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 14:35:33 -0400
Subject: 109 beats 88 (speed?)

One possibility for the different speeds is , what about the final drive
ratio? doesn't the 109 hav a higher ratio (lower gear) than the 88? 

This could have better acceleration but lower top speed.

Bob Bernard

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 14:35:29 -0400
Subject: brake bleeder screws

When I am in the brake cylinder area, I use anti seize compound on the bleed
screws so they will loosen at a later date.

I also put it on the brake drum retaining screws,

Bob Bernard

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From: ecoethic@rcinet.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 22:48:25 -0400
Subject: Hy-Speed Transfer Cases

Does anyone have any opinions about the modified Series I cases being 
produced in England that offer a higher-geared high range with low range the 
same? Are they dependable and quiet? Are they preferable to using the overdrive 
units? I would appreciate any opinions good or bad.

Walter Pokines
Tipp City, Ohio

60' Ser II 88'
67' Ser IIa 88'
Two Ser III 88's, 1972.

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 20:55:59 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Hy-Speed Transfer Cases

 Walter Pokines <ecoethic@rcinet.com> writes from Tipp City, Ohio:

>Does anyone have any opinions about the modified Series I cases being 
 produced in England that offer a higher-geared high range with low range the 
 same? Are they dependable and quiet? Are they preferable to using the
overdrive 
 units? I would appreciate any opinions good or bad.

>'60 Ser II 88" and '67 Ser IIa 88"

 Contact Mike Hoskins, owner of Mid America Rover, Kansas City, MO,
 816-763-3797.  Mike imports rebuilt Rover engines and transmissions,
 etc direct from L.E.G.S. and Allens in the UK, as well as a high
 speed transfer case dispensing the need for an overdrive.

 PS- Tell him I sent you! Maybe he will get persuaded to join the net. :)

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.500-442-6500
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 23:34:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Split charge

If someone was going to use two batteries why wouldn't you just use a two 
battery isolator available from any RV centre.  They prevent all the 
problems of overcharge and dead battries without all the relays and the 
switches.  I think in our part of the country, about $40 would do the 
trick and you don't have to worry about fires etc. Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 23:42:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Use of Propane

Can anyone tell me how the MPG between petrol and propane compare.  I 
expect that if propane has less btu per gallon you would need lots more 
propane to go the same distance.  I have a chance to get a propane 
conversion unit very cheap and I wondered if anyone has tried it on a 
Rochester carb just feeding the propane into the air cleaner inlet on the 
carb.  If I installed a gas line cutoff could I have a two fuel unit with 
little trouble?  Dave VE4PN

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From: Treski@aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 00:56:39 -0400
Subject: Re: The   guy  with the foward control etc.

hi  mr   rover lover!     where did you get , and where can i get a FC  in
the us?     i know many rover fanatics in the K. C.  area, including   JIM
 merriam.    any one know him??   or  Bill bruce?     if so  write back!
     thnaks  and include  110   add ons that you have.    Tre

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