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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 05:29:28 -0400
Subject: Buffing?

Saw a IIA  posted here that is for sale in Missouri or thereabouts. One of
the descriptions intrigued me. It said "needs buffing". What is a 'buffing'?
Never heard of such a thing! I don't think I have one. Does anyone know the
part number? I seem to remember hearing of someone who tried to put a buffing
on a LR, but gave up because it was too hard. Oh, mine is a LHD.
See 'ya on the old road...
Jim  '61 88" SW / OD, 1 Bbl weber & 16's   (econobox?)
LR....quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! 

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 02:01:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Dumb question: Audio install in a SI

Alan asks..
 
> If one were insane enough to want an audio system of some sort in
> a Series IIa, where's the best place to put it? Obviously, the

I've seen a very nice installation using a custom-made box in place of the
center seat. The box had the radio and space for cassette storage inside and
had a hinged lid which covered the whole affair. 

Cheers
Mike 

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 02:02:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Scum Of the earth unite.

S.W.Brierley, noted scum, states..

> I have noticed that i am become increasingly disliked
> by certain groups of people, and my crime????,
> well, owning a Land rover of course.

Why you terrible person! (You forgot to capitalize Rover)!

> The environmentalists hate me because its a ser III
> with a dirty great gas guzzling V8 (14-15 Mpg) that
> pollutes the atmosphere.

Horrors! Greenpeace activists should be camping out on your doorstep. 

> Land owners hate me because I constantly tear around
> the countryside ripping up your trees and killing
> small animals.... alledgedly.!!

And the fact that you have a bumper sticker that reads:
    "I speed up to run down small animals."
doesn't help any...
 
> And now, parents hate me because I possess a set of
> child killing train lines bolted to the front of
> my vehicle.

NO! Not That! Enough! Cease! Desist! (Where can I get some of those train
lines?? )

> Only kidding guys, hope it didn't offend to many
> people, its just that i'm getting paranoid now!!.

Well.. you can't offend me.. After all, I'm Pond Scum..

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 20:14:08 +1000
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: breaking half-shafts (S2-S3)

It is recommended to check the rover type half shafts *after* any hard work.
Apparently they can twist quite dramatically, at the diff' splines especially,
and then work harden over the ensuing weeks and finally snap
somewhere innocent, like at the shopping centre (mall!)

Lloyd

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 08:27:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Dumb question: Audio install in a SII?

>If one were insane enough to want an audio system of some sort in a Series
IIa, where's the best place to put it?

....on your head.  Get a Walkman & some good, tightly sealing headphones.
 It'll be the only way you'll hear the music.

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Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 16:01:33 +0059 (BST)
From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Buffing?

On Sat, 27 May 1995 JDolan2109@aol.com wrote:

> Saw a IIA  posted here that is for sale in Missouri or thereabouts. One of
> the descriptions intrigued me. It said "needs buffing". What is a 'buffing'?
> Never heard of such a thing! I don't think I have one. Does anyone know the
> part number? I seem to remember hearing of someone who tried to put a buffing

I think buffing comes standard with the 'yuppie trim pack' for Discovery's
and newer Range Rovers.  It certainly comes with the extra-special
aero-effects kit for Range Rovers going to the middle east (these are
advertised in the back of LRO Intl.) and the six-wheel stretched Rangie 
conversion.

I suspect any Disco or Rangie owner can get away with fitting a buffing,
as long as they don't tell their beer-buddies. 

There was never, to my knowledge, such a thing for Series trucks, except
as an aftermarket add-on available through "Taylor's Off-Road
Emprorium"... never seen one fitted though.

Cheers,
Charlie

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Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 09:18:48 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: 2.25l Unleaded Head Check

Can anyone out there tell me how I'd determine if a 2.25l petrol engine 
has had the head rebuilt for use with unleaded fuel?

As a second question, if this hasn't been done what's the likely 
cost/time for doing the work in the US (DIY)?  

The engine probably has about 120K miles on it.  At this mileage is it 
worth performing the head change or should I wait for a complete 
rebuilt/replacement?

Cheers,

Jeremy Bartlett
jjbpears@ix.netcom.com

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From: Frederick_O._Ellsworth@bcsmac.org (Frederick O. Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: Audio Install in Series IIA
Date: 27 May 1995 21:07:21 GMT

I just put a stereo in my 71 series IIA 88".   I used one strip plumber's tape
(approx. 1/2" wide galvanized steel tape perforated with holes throughout its
length - available at any hardware store for $0.50) bent around the sides &
bottom half  of the stereo.  One sheet metal screw through the plumber's tape
on each side fastened it very solidly to the heat distribution box right
above the yellow FWD knob.  It was a tight fit between the gearshift & the
H/L range selector but it did fit and looks like it was made to go there.  

I put speakers in each door panel (I made door panels out of 1/8" plywood and
carpeted them).  I also put speakers in the upper rear corners of the hardtop
in a panel which I also made out of plywood and covered with vinyl.  Looks
OK.

The speakers themselves I got at a junkyard out of a newer Honda for a few
bucks (my brother gave me an old stereo he wasn't using).  

I know all the jokes about stereos in Rovers but this one sounds great, looks
ok and only cost a few bucks.

Fred

                             

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Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 16:44:57 -0400
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: RE: Tune-up Questions

Fred asked:

1)  What exactly is the correct idle speed and ignition timing (8:1
compression ratio)?  The factory shop manual says one thing and the emissions
plate on the radiator panel says something completely different.  

I'm not sure of the correct answer, but I set mine to about 800 rpm and 6 
degrees btc, static timed, after setting the dwell to 60 degrees.

However, the adjustment screw seems to have very little effect on anything.  
As far as I can tell it's all the way closed right now and backing it off even
four or five turns doesn't do much at all. Is this normal?

No.  You may need to rebuild the carb.  The large O ring may be bad.  If the 
top to bottom halves do not mate well (you see plenty of daylight between), 
it will cause a rich mixture at all speeds and make your idle mixture 
screw next to useless.  Carefully use a file to plane down the high spots, 
making it seal as well as possible.  Turning the mixture screw in all the way 
should cause it to stall.  When setting the idle mixture, set the speed, then 
turn the screw in until it starts to stumble, then out until it smoothes out. 
 Reset the rpm if necessary.  Sort out the ignition stuff first.

Since I put the tranny back in it seems to buck and
shudder quite a bit when starting in first gear from a stop.  

This is probably due to the incorrect idle settings (unless you have a loose 
motor/transmission mount).

Good Luck!

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

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Date: 27 May 95 18:49:43 EDT
From: Matt Snyder/CA/MO <71450.2606@compuserve.com>
Subject: sick alternator on 88 RR

My alternator is sick, it has these symptoms:
1.  It whines
2.  It gets very hot to the touch (or is that normal?)
3.  The "ignition warning" light, the one that looks like a battery and is
"connected in series with the alternator field circuit" lights up when I turn
off the engine, and stays lit until it drains the battery.  I checked for bad
wiring, and found that, indeed, where the light is connected to the IND
terminal on the alternator, there is 12V.

Symptoms 1 and 2 would lead me to simply replace the bearings, depending on how
hard that is.  Symptom 3, while pretty strange, would lead me to suspect a
simple failed condensor or relay or something.  The combination of symptoms,
though, worries me.  Any ideas?

-Matt

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Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 09:52:44 EST
From: tonyy@ntalpha.nt.bom.gov.au (Tony Yates)
Subject: Unleaded head

.   >Can anyone out there tell me how I'd determine if a 2.25l petrol engine 
.   >has had the head rebuilt for use with unleaded fuel?
.   >

One of my personal bugbears is the unleaded/leaded fuel debate.

In Australia the government has been trying to persuade those of us with
pre-unleaded vehicles to use unleaded if our vehicles can handle it. They
encourage this by slapping a 2c/litre extra tax on leaded.

Presumably this has also been the case in the UK and US, with much talk
over the years in LRO about unleaded conversions for LR products.

Now for some little known facts:

The tetraethyl lead in leaded petrol is used to boost the octane rating.
Without this compound something else must be added to do the same job 
which, in unleaded, consists of various benzene derived compounds.
These are extremely toxic but are normally removed from the exhaust gases
by the catalytic converter.  Therefore a vehicle running on unleaded with
a converter is fine - almost.  The converter doesn't actually function
properly for the first few minutes until it has warmed up.

The exhaust gases from unleaded are so toxic that it should not be used
in lawn mowers/grass trimmers etc without some sort of face mask.

European legislators are considering making it illegal to use unleaded
in vehicles not fitted with catalytic convertors.

Studies have shown (I'm not sure I believe this one) that lead emissions
from vehicle exhausts are actually fairly harmless due to the lead having
been modified by heat into an inert(?) form.

There is no doubt that many children have been affected by lead, but more
likely from other sources, of which there are many.

So before you convert your LR to unleaded do a little research and ask
yourself if you are really doing the environment a favour. If you do,
then go the whole hog and invest lots of $$$ in a converter as well.

I'm sure I will be jumped upon by all the environmentalists out there but
some feedback from any industrial chemists with experience in this area
would be appreciated.

PS My vehicle runs on LPG which is not only relatively clean but very
very cheap!

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Tony Yates                                                 ()
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Darwin RFC               ph:  (089) 824 724            (       )
Bureau of Meteorology    fax: (089) 824 729             ~~~~~~~
PO Box 735                                              /////
Darwin NT 0801           email: A.Yates@bom.gov.au      ///
Australia                                              //
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From: LR88@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 22:28:18 -0400
Subject: Camel Trophy Daily Logs

I tried to post this out Friday, but my service provider crashed, so I
couldn't get this out...anyway, the Friday daily log wasn't delivered, and I
won't be posting anything until I return to town on Tuesday.  (I'm currently
at Mike McCaig's farm in Buckingham County, the site of the Mid-Atlantic
Rally.)  Cheers.

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 23:03:50 -0400
Subject: re: heater discussions

I've noticed a number of comments about heaters, and I thought I'd toss a
thought out there for anyone who may not know this.
The bracket that mounts the brake pedal/master cylinder has hole in it for
service purposes.
early 2A small in front, late 2A possible III has rwo on the sides.
these holes allow cold outside air and engine fumes especially gas from leaky
carbs to come in by drivers feet. There are plugs in originally, but they
fall out or forget to go back in when worked on.
Hope this helps someone.

Bob Bernard

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From: FourBoyos@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 02:03:36 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

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