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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 08:55:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Mike Slade <SLCN3@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: fuel sender question

Is it possible to rebuild an '88 fuel tank sender?  I have a current and the
guage reads 1/2 whether or not the float is moved.  I disconnect the sender and
I still have a current and the guage still reads 1/2.
 
Occasionally the guage will sporadically jump up and down, but I haven't
determined if that is related to fuel level at all.
 
That's all.
 
Thanks,
 
Michael

PS anyone got a used one for sale????

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 11:05:54 -0400
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Rings & Things

OK, let's see if this thing works...

I'm in the process of rebuilding my spare 2.25 gas engine and need help on two 
things:

Does anyone know of a UK supplier that has oversized pistons with chrome rings 
or just ring sets by themselves?  The US costs are pretty hefty at the moment. 
Aftermarket are OK as long as you think the quality is good and the rings are 
chrome.  I don't know the oversize yet.  The shop will bore it out until the 
bores are clean then recommend the next oversize.  The final bore will be done 
once they have the pistons.

Also I'm looking for genuine lifter (tappet) rollers & sliders.  They're 
astronomical here and I've heard several horror stories regarding aftermarket 
lifter components.

Any ideas on suppliers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a bunch,

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: we're back .....
Date: Mon, 22 May 95 8:15:48 PDT

You don't by chance use the Range Rover with a PTO, to
power Majordomo......

Thanks for all the support
Russ Burns
91 Range-Rover
94 D-90
> OK people,
>   the list was away, but now it is back, well mostly...
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 29 lines)]
> old, and since it isn't that cold here the alarm and clock should not have
> drained it so much so quickly... so off to general tyre...

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From: "John R. Benham" <BENHAM@WFOCLAN.USBM.GOV>
Date:          Mon, 22 May 1995 09:12:44 +1100
Subject:       Blowing Oil

Dave,

    Mine used to do this due to a less than optimal condition rear 
engine seal.  Short of replacing this seal (assuming this is your 
problem), you can use a heavier 20/50 weight oil and vent your 
engine to the intake manifold via a PCV valve.  I found a PCV valve 
at NAPA that works great.  Unfortunately, I do not have the number 
with me at work now.

    I just got back from several weeks in Arizona doing a project 
near Cleator and Crown King.  Through the digest, I met James Howard 
who recently purchased a L/R in Phoenix but lives in Flagstaff.  He 
works at the Naval Observatory there and took us on an extensive tour 
of their new optical project.  Only after after seeing his new L/R 
and discussing local future trip localities.

    We came back via monument valley and SE Utah!  Incredible off 
roads and scenary there!

Later,
John R. Benham - Editor
N.3616 Dowdy Road                 `The Rover Runner'
Spokane, WA  99204  USA               ______
                                     |______\_____
1968 88 IIA Marine Blue      *---   [|_/-\____/-\_|}
  The `BWANA' Mobile           *---    (O)    (O)        

509.747.0692 (H); 509.353.2700 (W); E-Mail: benham@wfoclan.usbm.gov

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 09:19:14 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: UK Source for Toro/Bearmach

 Welcome back Major!

 Does anyone in UK have a source for Toro/Bearmach overdrive
 kits, willing to ship to the US?  Fax numbers appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.500-442-6500
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Unimog 4x4 WWW page at http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

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From: i.mitchell@ic.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 22 May 95 17:23:27 BST
Subject: Re: Serial Numbers

Hi everyone, good to be back!

Is there anyyone out there who knose all there is to know about chassis nos?
My landy is registered as a 'W' i.e. in 1981. (The 'W' bit won't mean anything 
to you guys in the other side of the pool).  However, as far as I am aware the 
numbering of LRs changed in 1979 (or '80) and my number is of the old type.

What is more, just to add to the connfusion, the chassis (or is it serial)  no. 
begins 903....  Now I think 901 means SWB petrol home market, 902 is LHD export 
and 904 is RHD export (or vice versa) but I can't find any reference to 903.
Can anyone help?

This all arose when I ordered post 1980 wheel bearings, only to find out that 
they were the wrong ones!

Have fun!
Ian

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Date: Mon, 22 May 95 10:20:50 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: fuel sender question

In message <199505221456.JAA07371@butler.uk.stratus.com> Mike Slade writes:

> Thanks,
> Michael
> PS anyone got a used one for sale????

I have a couple of extra series II under seat petrol tank sender units sitting 
around I get rid of.  Where are you?

I'm looking for 2 series III petrol under seat tanks sender units.

TeriAnn Wakeman              .sig closed for remodeling
twakeman@apple.com         
              
                         
                       

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 14:12:04 -0400
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Disco tire pressures

LROs-
I've got a question about the recommended tire pressures for on-road travel
in Disco's.  According to the manual, front tires should be inflated to 26
psi and rear to 34 psi.  Why is this?  I've never owned a vehicle that
recommended anything other than equal tire pressures all around.  Moreover,
I would have suspected that the front, bearing most of the weight, would
have been the tires with suggested >higher< pressures.  So what's the
reasoning behind the recommended pressures?

I'd also like to comment on the BSROA outing this past weekend.  All in
all, it was a very well run event (but next time let's meet on the beach,
instead of in a parking lot!).  About 20 vehicles showed up, predominantly
discos, with a couple-three each of defenders, RRs, and series beasts.  We
ran the beaches at Race Point, which is on Cape Cod, USA.  The highlight of
the day was when our group came upon a stuck Explorer, who we helped winch
out.  A jeep didn't take kindly to the backup this caused and tried to run
around us closer to the water (nearly running over a child on a blanket in
the process).  No one rushed to help the jeepsters when they got stuck,
even with the tide coming in.  Eventually everyone got on his/her way,
without any major damage, except perhaps to some egos.  I'd highly
recommend a club event to anyone who hasn't gone out en masse.  It is a
very different experience to solo or small groups, and the entourage of
Rovers raised a fuss pretty much everywhere we went.
-Bob

  rvirzi@gte.com             Think Globally. ===
  +1(617)466-2881                            === Act Locally!

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 14:34:42 -0400
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Net Warning on LR Winch installs

Here's something I tried to get out during the time Major Domo was on
strike.  I cannot vouch for the reliability of this info, but I found this
tidbit posted to rec.4x4.  Please reply to,"Stephen C. Gross"
<sgross@enet.net>, not me if you want more info.
-Bob

 ....  Included message starts here ....
rec.autos.4x4
From: "Stephen C. Gross" <sgross@enet.net>
Date: Wed May 10 00:36:34 EDT 1995
Organization: America West Airlines

For those of you that have Land Rover vehicles with factory installed
Warn winches, a word of caution.

The winch installation on my Defender 90 was not a normal Warn
installation.  It was something someone at Land Rover dreamed up... and I
don't mean the dealership- I'm talking about LRNA!  The remote controller
is wired differently (for what reason I don't know}, they use a solenoid
in series with the positive lead to the battery, and they rely on the
vehicle frame for the negative connection.

The result of this rather unorthordox installation is degraded
performance, even to the extent of damage to the winch armature.  My
winch would get so hot that you could not touch the motor housing after
winding in 100 feet of cable with no load on it!!!

I removed the relay, ran a #2 ga. cable to the negative post of the
battery (they at least used #0 cable for the positive lead) and rewired
the remote controller.  The winch runs much faster and cooler now.
The winch is now installed per Warn Industries procedures.

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 15:47:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: reischer@ridgefield.sdr.slb.com (Andy Reischer)
Subject: tires and rims

Hi...

I've got a 100 inch coiler ragtop. Does anyone have recomendations for wheel
/tire combinations. I've heard the Cooper Discovery works well. I am almost 
never on rock. The LR only see's sand, snow and pavement. I currently have the
stock 15 inch rims with 30.5 * 9.5 *15 XCH4's. The LR seems to bounce with these
tires but they are pretty good aired down on sand. I think the tire is too
big for the rim, and the sidewalls are too stiff. There are also at least 3 LR
steel wheels to choose from. I think I should go to a 16 inch rim because the
tire dosn't need to be as big(bouncy) and because I can't find wide enough 
plain steel wheels.(I hate wagon wheels). I also think that I should keep with
the LR offset because they  keep a wider track. Any suggestions ???????

Andy Reischer

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Date: Thu, 18 May 95 19:21:52
From: Tim Guy <timbo@hurtwood.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Baby Land Rover

I was at a company in Birmingham,  about 2 months ago repairing a computer, 
On the 
machine was Power point, and within that was a presentation for a 'Person 
friendly' nudge bar (ie, its a fake, it doesnt hurt when you bounce off it)
for the new Baby Land Rover, So I assume the project must be well on the 
way.

Tim Guy - Timbo@hurtwood.demon.co.uk

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 16:26:20 -0500
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Baby Rattles

Welcome back digest and Bill C. I asked this question before the digest
went down and don't know if it made it to the masses.

My SRIIA 88" has a nasty rattle...loose-metal sounding thing...when I'm
going up a hill or the engine is straining. Sound's like it is coming from
the back of the engine. It is a new noise...not one of the usual Rover
noises. Is it a clutch plate going bad, something loose in the
transmission, engine, or my brain?

Chris

Chris Stevens                                   1969 SR IIA 88" SW

BCG Corporate Communications
Towson, Maryland, USA
(410) 583-1722
(410) 583-1935 (FAX)
chrisste@Clark.net

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 17:18:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: fuel sender question

Before you toss the fuel sender, get an ohm meter and put it across the 
terminals of the sender and see if you get a different reading throughout 
the scarle.  If yes the sender is OK and the meter is at fault.  If the 
sender is the problem, look and see if the wire is still intact and not 
too burned.  You may be able to burnish it a bit and get it to read.  It 
sounds like it is coated with an insulating crud and won/\'t read over 
the entire scale.  It it was open you would read nothing.  A bit of very 
fine emery closth or a spray with contact cleaner and a wipe may do the 
trick.  Dave VE4PN

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From: Alan Richer <Alan_Richer.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 22 May 95 18:43:13 EDT
Subject: Info for a friend: What engine swaps are OK?

A friend who is looking into Land-Rover acquisition has
asked me (so I'm an expert, I own one?) which engines
are acceptable swaps into a Land-Rover, and how this
actually gets done.

I will confess to a bit of curiousity myself, as it seems every
Rover in Land Rover Owner's International seems to have
either an Iveco, Rover or other powerplant it didn't leave
the factory with.

Do they sell adapter kits for this?

  Yours, aj"Not with MY Diesel you don't"r

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 17:58:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Land Rovers in Louisiana

I expect to be leaving for Louisiana to do some disaster relief work with 
the American Red Cross.  Is there anyone out there from Land Rover-dom I 
might try to visit with while there?  Also I am looking for some way to 
get into the Internet.  Is there someone in Lousiana who can help me get 
a free or low cost ramp for about three weeks.  I should know within 24 
hours where exactly I will be but I suspect it is where the tornado ran 
over the Sears store.  Dave VE4PN

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Re: Info for a friend: What engine swaps are OK?
Date: Tue, 23 May 95 9:09:02 EST

Hi alan,
        Well, down here in Australia, you can buy adaptors to put Holden (GM)
6 cylinders, v8's, Nissan 4 & 6 cylinder diesels, nissan gear boxes and 
transfer cases, and a whole bunch of others that I don't know about.
Infact, if you want a conversion to put a holden six into a Land Rover, then
I can sell you the one that I pulled out of my Series 1.

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       My car is constipated,
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       It has not passed a 
                                                |       thing all day!!

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Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 00:11:19 -0600 (CST)
From: "S.Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: Bush hog, speedo stutters, tubless tires

Retransmission
Subject: Re: Bush hog, speedo stutters, tubless tires

In message Tue, 9 May 1995 08:06:28 +0200,
  Peter Kutschera <peter@zditr1.arcs.ac.at:  writes:

: Hello!
: I never heared of a "transfer case bottom PTO unit".
: Can you give some details (a picture maybe)?

If you get under the transfer box you will see a sump plate pointing upwards
to the right. If you remove this plate you will be able to mount a hydraulic
PTO. The PTO case is triangular so the bottom will be parallel with the
ground and whole gearbox/PTO assembly will not be any deeper than before.
This sort of PTO is fine for mounting a semi detachable hydraulic winch at
the front (usually). When you detach it partially you will get a better pull
since the winch will point to the object where the wire is attached. A
promotional picture shows a stage one pulling logs for forrestry workers.
You can of course use other types of hydraulic tools with the PTO.

: I have a Koenig winch on my '68 SIIa 109" LR. Would it with the
: "transfer case bottom PTO unit" be possible to add an overdrive without
: removeing the winch?
Yes (depending on the type of Koenig of course).

You can even have an over drive and two PTO's this way.
Use one to drive hydraulic tools, the other one to drive a water pump for
cleaning up when the hyd hoses leaks :-)
: Thanks, Peter

sv/aurens

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From: UncleBrad@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 19:27:39 -0400
Subject: Film crew seeking Rover owners

I received a call from a fellow in the UK the other day. He works for a TV
production company which is going to be travelling across the US this summer.
They will be working on a film which focuses on  the theme, "Rovers Across
America". 

Apparently this group is covering many British marques and has already done
"Jags Across America". For this trip, they are looking for people in the US
who use Land Rovers in their work. 

If you know of any such people who might be willing to be filmed with their
Rover sometime in September, could you please contact me at:
AW Editor@aol.com
or 510-687-0955

Thanks a million!

Brad Blevins

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Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 08:52:19 EST
From: tonyy@ntalpha.nt.bom.gov.au (Tony Yates)
Subject: Salisbury axle on RR

Before everything went down someone asked about fitting a Salisbury
axle to the rear of their RR.  I have one comment and one question:

Unless a late model Defender axle were used (unlikely), then it would
be fitted with drum brakes.  This is likely to lead to serious insurance
implications unless it were converted to discs.

Can a Salisbury axle be easily converted to discs?  I have a 110 V8 with
drums on the rear. They work well enough when adjusted properly but
keeping them adjusted is a pain. (I know - I'm getting soft, I used to
drive IIAs with brakes that were vague at best).

=====================================================================
Tony Yates                                                 ()
                                                        ()(  )          
Darwin RFC               ph:  (089) 824 724            (       )
Bureau of Meteorology    fax: (089) 824 729             ~~~~~~~
PO Box 735                                              /////
Darwin NT 0801           email: A.Yates@bom.gov.au      ///
Australia                                              //
=====================================================================

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Date: 22 May 95 19:53:14 EDT
From: "MARK C. RITTER" <70472.1130@compuserve.com>
Subject: June 3rd north GA trip

If anyone would like to attend a off road ride on the above date in the north GA
mountains let me know. This will be mildly challenging and non-damaging to stock
new vehicles (been down it in my Disco) so no need to fear. If you need the
particulars E-mail me at:				Mark Ritter
70472.1130@compuserve.com

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Date: Mon, 22 May 95 16:54:57 PDT
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Downeast Rally

All, 

Anyone going to the Downeast Rally in Maine on June 30th ??? There are 3 Land 
Rovers here in SW New Hampshire who are going up about lunchtime Friday. 
Anyone coming over from Vermont, New York, CT, NJ etc who wants to convoy up 
????

Mark    

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Date: Mon, 22 May 95 17:12:39 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  Net Warning on LR Winch installs

Interestingly the winch problem was mentioned in Four Wheeler magazine on their
long term Defender. They too said the performance did not live up to the
usual Warn standards, because of the wiring used. Never mind, the Defender
arrangement could be sold as a Lucas winch.

Cheers

John Brabyn
Mill Valley, Ca
89 RR

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:28:08 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Camel Trophy Daily Logs

Saturday, May 20th - This year's Camel Trophy began amid the three "H's": 
hornets, heat and humidity.  Participants in the 16th annual event had to 
contend with temperatures of 37 C (body temperature) for the initial 11 
Special Tasks held near Lamanai, Belize.  A second set of tasks will await 
the twenty national teams near the end of their two week, 1,700 km traverse 
of the "Mundo Maya" - the Mayan world.

Former Dutch olympic hockey goalie, Erik-Jan de Rooy, was the first 
casualty; he was struck in the eye by a "yellow jacket".  This wasn't your 
wimpy, North American insect, but rather something resembling a two inch 
Kamakazie.  Only quick action by a Dutch journalist averted long term 
problems.  Within an hour, three others had been similarly attacked.  (By 
the way, Belize is home to the Africanized "killer" bee.)

The first special task involved a canoe race across the Rio Azul lagoon in 
traditional dories.  This was followed by an orienteering run, the recovery 
of symbolic Mayan relics from the bottom of the river, and a run up the 
tallest Mayan pyramid.  In the heat of the day, this was difficult; team 
doctor Mike Irani cautioned everyone to drink a litre of water an hour.

The tasks continued into the night for 30 hours straight, with the toughest 
orienteering runs held during the coolest part of the day - just the time 
that all the wildlife comes out.

Sunday, May 21st - After 30 constant hours of efforts at the special tasks, 
the Polish team of Marek Klar and Wojciech Stawowiak emerged as the early 
leaders.  But the teams had little chance to savor the completion - in a 
little over an hour after the completion of the special tasks, the teams had 
to grab a bite to eat and pack their Discoveries for the start of the 
expedition.  Target by Monday is the Guatamalean town of Rio Azul where the 
team will depart for an 8 km trek on foot to an uncharted archaeological 
site.  There, the participants will assist researchers in mapping the extent 
of this unexplored site.  Stay tuned!
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: 22 May 95 21:30:15 EDT
From: "Stephen O'Hearn" <72700.3262@compuserve.com>
Subject: D90 break in

Pierce writes:

>I have the same thing on my D90.  It's getting better with miles (only 2K so
>far) .   I am treating it as part of break-in, not regarding it as a problem.

>I had the same on a Ford Bronco I had a few years ago... for the first few K
>miles, it was hard to shift into first and even second and the transfer case
did
>not like to lock in place.  It went away after a while and the vehicle never
>gave me a bit of trouble.

My experience is that after 7,500 or so things shift very nicely indeed.

- Stephen (finally an LROA member!)

p.s. It's nice to see the list back on line :-)

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Stephen O'Hearn               1994        LAND-            Tread Lightly |
| El Segundo, CA, USA         DEFENDER        -ROVER         on Public and |
| 72700.3262@compuserve.com      90     The Best 4x4xFar     Private Lands |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 18:33:30 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Info for a friend: What engine swaps are OK?

 Alan Richer <Alan_Richer.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> writes:

>A friend who is looking into Land-Rover acquisition has
 asked me (so I'm an expert, I own one?) which engines
 are acceptable swaps into a Land-Rover, and how this
 actually gets done.
>I will confess to a bit of curiousity myself, as it seems every
 Rover in Land Rover Owner's International seems to have
 either an Iveco, Rover or other powerplant it didn't leave
 the factory with.
>Do they sell adapter kits for this?

 Scotty in Concord, California (510-686-2255) sells Chevy 250 adapter
 plates, and various other engines.  He says that the 250 is more than
 enough power for a LR.  After you blow the transmission, transfer case,
 and differentials, he'll fix those too! :)

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.500-442-6500
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Unimog 4x4 WWW page at http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

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From: vogel@shrsys.hslc.org
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:52:22 EST
Subject: D90 in Four Wheeler

The June issue of Four Wheeler magazine not only contains a Defender 90
long term update, but also an article on modifying D90 and other coil-
sprung Land Rover suspensions.

Tom Vogel
Gladwyne, PA
SWB III 1972

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From: HIM88@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 23:09:56 -0400
Subject: subscribe

Subscribe.

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From: JWootton@eworld.com
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 00:22:38 -0700
Subject: Re-build vs buy again

This question is to be ignored by anyone with masses of time, or money, or an
insatiable appetite for fixing (not driving) landrovers...

I have a 1974 series III '88, which is currently a lawn ornament under my
apple tree. The frame and the firewall are shot (as is the patience of my
family who would like to use the space for soccer, etc ). The question is:
would it be better ( read, easier, cheaper) to buy another series III in
slightly better shape, or bite the bullet and order a new ( ah, galvanized)
frame and firewall, and spend the rest of my evenings 'till the millenium
getting the job done. Has anyone else cut this Gordian knot, and what was the
decision?  Also, why did my family name my landrover "FOLLY"?

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