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1 Sanna@aol.com 8No Subject
2 Sanna@aol.com 9What Happened?
3 Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D122Ownership of Land Rovers
4 Morgan Hannaford [morgan44good rovers-bad movie (fwd)
5 Morgan Hannaford [morgan50NoCal Rover 4 sale (fwd)
6 Charlie Wright [cw117@mo25Oil pressure sender?
7 Morgan Hannaford [morgan24Another Rover 1st!
8 EvanD103@aol.com 20Re: Correction to "The List"
9 "Mark Talbot" [mtalbot@I21Re: Overdrives.... You want one ????
10 LANDROVER@delphi.com 42109 for Sale


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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 09:44:36 -0500
Subject: No Subject

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 09:44:01 -0500
Subject: What Happened?

Over the last few days my mail box has been nearly empty of Rover news.  Even
my posts to "land-rover-owner@team.net" have not appeared.  Has there been a
change in address?

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Ownership of Land Rovers
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 95 12:34:00 EST

This article was first written in regard to antique tractors by Roger Welch
who lives out in Nebraska. However the similarity between collecting 
tractors
and Volvos was too good to miss so his rules were borrowed and a few words
were changed.
                                                             Tom H.
It was forwarded to me by a friend on the Swedish Brick Network and also 
applies to Land Rovers.

                     RULES FOR COLLECTING LAND ROVERS

RULE l-Collect only one variety of Land Rover, nothing but early SI's
or
SII , for example.  When all your Land rovers are the same color and shape,
it's harder if not impossible for anyone to figure out how many Land Rovers
you actually have.

RULE 2-Never line up your Land Rovers, ever!  Nothing distresses a difficult 
spouse
more than seeing twelve old Land Rovers lined up, looking for all the world 
like a
pile of burning hundred dollar bills. Scatter the Land Rovers around, a 
couple
behind
the garage, one or two in the garage, another beside the garage, maybe a
couple at a friends house, so that it is not possible for anyone (if you 
know
who I mean) to see more than two or three from any one perspective. Your 
hobby
will be less 'irritating' that way.

RULE 3-For pretty much the same reason, don't number your Landies , give 
them
names. You'd be surprised how much less trouble you will have if you talk
about "Nige" rather than 2216122.

RULE 4-Early in your collecting, buy an Land Rover  you don't want. Then 
sell it as
quickly as you can. Don't worry about making any money on the transaction, 
the
main thing is to buy a Land Rover and get rid of it. Then you can say, "Yes 
my
sweet, I do have six Land Rovers in the garage while our car is out in the
weather.
That doesn't mean I will always have six Land Rovers. Remember the one I got 
rid
of?
I'm thinking of selling another one any day now, so we can put our car in 
the
garage". If you have a friend who collects Land Rovers make arrangements for 
him to
drop off a Landie now and again. That way you can say, if anyone asks, that
you
bought it. Then have him haul it off again and say you sold it. With this
system you establish your reputation for moderation.

RULE 5-Pay for your Landies with cashier's checks,or postal money orders, or
cash
which leaves far less evidence than checks drawn on the family account. Once
you have gotten possession of another Landie and paid for it, eat the stubs.
carbon copes  or receipts immediately. Such things have a way of becoming an
embarrassment later,  take it from me! (This also applies to parts purchases 
and shipping labels from the UK)

RULE 6-Now and then buy a wreck for 'parts' even if you don't need the 
parts.
In fact you might consider hauling a wreck or two on the same trailer or
truck,
whenever you haul home a good Landie. This is called 'liability averaging'.
If your significant other says something about having enough money for yet
another Landie, but not enough for a new refrigerator, point indignantly to 
the
Landies on the trailer-the beautiful one, solid and in running condition for
which you paid $1,500.00 and the rusted hulks you got for $50.00 each. Then
huff, "Snookums, I got those for little more than $500.00 each and the one 
in
the back is easily worth $2,000.00. That s a tidy profit of $400.00." See7
Doesn't that make you sound like an investment wizard?

RULE 7-When things get critical. consider dragging home a Land Rover without
transmission or rear wheels. If there's a complaint you say, "Landie?
What Landie?  That's not a Landie! That's only a front end, not even close
to an Landie." Then a couple of weeks later bring home a rear end minus the
radiator, engine and front wheels. "Landie? What Landie? That's no Landie,
that's
only a rear end, not even close to a Landie!" However, don t try this more
than once every couple of years!

RULE 8-Have a dealer or friend call you now and then when you're not at 
home,
and tell your spouse, "Bob told me to keep an eve on the Land Rover going at 
the
auction on Saturday but it sold for $15,000.00, and I know there s no way a
financially cautious and responsible guy like Bob would pay that much, so I
didn't even make a bid on it for him."  Not only will this make you look
really
good. but the next time you buy a Landie say something like, "Luvi-bear, 
this
beauty only cost me S1,000.00, which means we are $14.000.00 ahead of where 
we
d have been, if I'd have gotten the one before. If I keep saving money like
this, we'll be able to afford to go on that Caribbean cruise next winter." 
If
you say it fast enough, it might just work!

RULE 9-If your mate insults your work calling it "Mud Pile", laugh a
lighthearted laugh, making it clear that Land Rovers are NOT to you what 
shoes
were to Imelda Marcos.

RULE l0-If your situation worsens to the point where your mate asks, "Who do
you love more, me or your Land Rovers?" Whatever you do, don't ask for time 
to
think it over!

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:22:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: good rovers-bad movie (fwd)

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 10:19:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: good rovers-bad movie

Another movie to add to the list!

I watched Lethal Ninja last night, and I'm really embarassed!
But I looked up the subject in the T.V. listings and it said
a ninja dude rescues damsel in Africa.  There has to be a Rover
in this one.  And there was, several.

I don't want to ruin the plot for you, in fact I can't remember
what the plot was- but, here are some interesting points:

1) Ninja hiding in the back of a topless 109, gives guy the death
grip!

2) 2 blown up Rovers 1 88 and 1 109 (as per above).

3) cool Ser. III 109 SW, military green with big tires!  This is
driven by the heroes (zeros).  Although I cringed when they said
"get the jeep".

4) Squeeling tires from the 109 SW on dirt roads!  Cool chase scene
when the 109 SW does "Rockford Files" type manuevers.  Does the 
Rovers North off-road school teach how to do a reverse 180 sliding
turn in a 109?  

5) Cool braking technique to avoid going off the cliff, roll the
Rover.  Then get out the back door that opens the wrong way (hinges
exposed and all).

Joe Bob would say "check it out", if he owned a Rover.

Ciao,

Morgan

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:23:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: NoCal Rover 4 sale (fwd)

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 10:24:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: NoCal Rover 4 sale

Anyone who cares:

I'm sure I'll be arrested for insider trading info. but
I have a line on a Rover for sale.

I was parked outside a Mexican restraunt in Napa Calif. (my
home town), dining inside.  A kid (~20) comes up to my table
and asks, "do either of you guys own the Land Rover outside?"
"why yes" I reply.

This kid wants to sell his '69 IIA 88", 89,000 original miles,
mostly original mechanics (Rover engine), new interior and
window tracks, it is red with a white top and has 5 new B.F.G.
Mud Terrains on it.  He wants about $6500 for it, but he says
he spent $5000 on it, fixed up the interior, etc.

When we said (I was sitting with another LRO) "why", he claimed
that he "wants something that goes faster than 60mph".

hack, cough, hack hack..............

My smart alec mother said "like a Honda"? and the kid gave an 
afirmative gesture.

So, if you have a spare $6000 (I'm sure he is flexible) or a
nice Honda that will go faster than 60mph give this guy a call.

Matt Biair, (707)224-1650.

He also said it has a "kick ass stereo in it".  To which we replied,
"well you have to have one to hear it, in a Land Rover".

****************************************************************** 
By the way, my mother wondered why he only approached our table in
a crowed Napa restraunt?

Ciao,

Morgan

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 21:32:06 +0001 (GMT)
From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Oil pressure sender?

This should probably go to UK only, but I've already addressed it.

The infamous oil sender has packed up on my IIa (an annual tradition) diesel 
again, and I've once again begun a quest for a real pressure guage.  None 
of the basic aftermarket versions (for the XR3i/Golf GTI crowd) have an 
adpator that fits the odd sized take-off from the oil filter housing.

Anyone know a compatible sender/guage unit from say a Sherpa van or 
similar?  What fits?  Does anyone do a little brass adaptor?  I'm tired 
of buying the 'idiot light' version as a maintenance item.

Any ideas/comments welcome

Cheers,
Charlie

C. R. Wright                                    Dept. of Genetics
+44 (0)1223 333970 telephone                    Univ. of Cambridge
+44 (0)1223 333992 telefax                      Downing Street, Cambs.
cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk                        CB2 3EH, England

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:42:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Another Rover 1st!

I forgot who first posted the National Geographic Rover sitings,
but I went and looked up the March, 1961 issue "We drove Darien
Gap".  This is a fabulous article, very timely in its prose.
The article explains that the Darien Gap on the Pan-American
Highway in Panama has been a barrier travel.  Even pack animals
are frequently freighted around the area.  This article follows
two vehicles that attempt to drive it for the first time:
a Willy's truck and a blue Series II Land-Rover 88".  The drivers
of the Land-Rover are Richard Bevir, of Toronto, and Terence 
Whitfield of Australia.  They drove all the way from Canada to 
meet up with this expedition, and in doing so became the first
vehicle to drive from North America through to South America.  The
Jeep started in Panama.

Makes me proud.........

Ciao,

Morgan

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From: EvanD103@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 17:35:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Correction to "The List"

Two minor corrections to my/my Land Rover entry in last weeks list.  My
Series III is a 1973, not a 1993.  I live in Stone Mountain, Georgia, USA,
not Charlotte,NC, USA.  I suspect I'm responsible for the error in the year,
but don't know how my home changed.....
My Rovers resurection is on hold while the US Customs decides whether to
release my parts or not.  At first they wanted my Social Security Number,
then they wanted to know what "Land Rover Spares" meant in American English.
 "Car Parts" seemed to satisfy them and FedEx says I should get my parts
tomorrow.  It's only been 18 days since they were shipped..... At least they
didn't ask what the country of origin was as with Kelly's headliner and rear
seat.

Erik van Dyck
'73 Ser 3 88"

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 95 15:30:45 PST
From: "Mark Talbot" <mtalbot@InterServ.Com>
Subject: Re: Overdrives.... You want one ????

All, 

I have struck a deal with Merseyside Land Rover in Liverpool England for new 
Fairey Overdrives for series Land Rovers. If we can get an order to purchase 
10 then I can get a break on the price, to be arranged. The discount will be 
in the 20-25% range. Anyone interested ???? 

I'm not sure if we can deliver to the UK. Because of the VAT. However, if 
those in the UK want a peice of this I could always get delivery here then 
ship back ! 

Let me know ASAP, I need to know how many by friday. So bend the wife's arm. 

We should be looking in the $550-$600 price range.

Mark

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 23:37:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 109 for Sale

I was driving around today and found a 109 in my area that I had never seen
before.. Of course, I had to check it out. Turned out to be for sale. The
details are:

1963 109 Station Wagon - Diesel - About 80,000 miles on the odometer.
Fairey O/D, Warn F/W hubs. The truck is extremely clean underneath - the
frame is black and smooth. Body is very straight although the paint is
flaking off in a few places. The interior is very clean. The only things out
of place that I could see (on a quick inspection) are the exhaust system is
not correct (it exits out ahead of the rear wheel) and it's missing the
rearmost seats. 

The owner lives in Scotia, NY but the truck is at his mother's house in
Johnstown, NY. I spoke to the owner on the phone briefly. He has had the 109
for 4 or 5 years. It previously was in North Carolina and he has never
driven
it in the winter.   (Judging from the condition of the frame, that sounds
right.)  Before he bought it, it had been repainted and the injector pump
was rebuilt. Since he has owned it he has replaced the rear diff (still has
the old one), rear axel half-shafts, fuel pump and generator. He says he has
a brand new set of glow-plugs still in the boxes. The truck is currently
licensed and insured and runs - by the looks of the soot on the snow by the
exhaust pipe it was started up within the last two or three days.

Asking price is $5,000. Call Dave Acker at (518) 377-9466

If someone wants more information, this truck is only 5 or 6 miles from my
house. Let me know and I'll be glad to check it out a bit more thoroughly.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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