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1 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu18Re: Hummers(Hummve)
2 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu15Re: Diesel woes!!!
3 Jimmy Patrick [jimmyp@ck21LR homepage
4 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000428Re: Wheels/Tyres... and no end in sight
5 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em32Re: Solihull
6 BAWILL01@UKCC.UKY.EDU 14 U.S. Army Land-Rovers
7 Bill Yerazunis [crash@ic48Drover vs. Hummer
8 labranch@sybase.com (Jas22Speedometer Replacement
9 RLZiegler@aol.com 9Hess 6cyl. oil adaptor gasket
10 stephen.thomas@tridom.co97Land Rover Rally in North Georgia, USA
11 UncleBrad@aol.com 26Military Surplus Rover news
12 Kelly Minnick [minnick@j23Misc
13 "George S. Reiswig" [ger34Defender 90
14 Russell Burns [burns@cis18Re: Defender 90
15 bfreeman@heartland.bradl15For Sale
16 taylors@hubcap.clemson.e23Series III 88 SPECS WANTED
17 Benjamin Allan Smith [be26[not specified]
18 "WILLIAM L. LEACOCK" [735Wednesdays digest.
19 Steve Firth [steve@firth17Stealth Forces?
20 mtalbot@InterServ.Com (M34Re: Problems with brake lights
21 Andrew Steele [ad158@day29Re: Problems w/ brake lights
22 "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du33Re: Matchbox Land Rover Fire Engine


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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Hummers(Hummve)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 9:57:52 GMT

> miles on a Military hummve.  I spent 4 years in the U.S. Army and drove 
> the sh*t out of my hummer.  Don't take this as a slag on Rovers, god 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 27 lines)]
> ha ha.....;)
> Cheers from Pittsburgh
> Russ
Oh,great.So you try to pass yourselves off as *us*.Then we get the flak.
Isnt that taking the "Special Relationship" a bit *too* far?
I mean,you chaps could always try to join the SAS,you know.No need to
just *play* at it:-)
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Diesel woes!!!
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:07:59 GMT

Dear woefully pissed off....
There used to be a process called metal spraying.It involved
the deposition of new metal on worn areas.I once,many years
ago,had a steering worm built up this way.I dont know whether
the process is still in use,or whether its any good on cast
iron,but it would seem to offer some hope if it is,in fact
still available.
Cheers
Mikw Rooth

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 07:29:02 -0500
From: Jimmy Patrick <jimmyp@cksp.demon.co.uk>
Subject: LR homepage

Lloyd,
My homepage has a picture of Mabel, my 1960 Series II. It also has a
picture of Jon Ward's Rover that I stole from someone else's page. It is
at:

http://www.netpress.com/jimmyp/

Take a look. I will be going on a Land-Rover camping trip in Wales this
weekend. I will take some photos of the other rovers and add a page with
those photos next week.

--

CKS|Partners                                            0344-382114
Advertising & Marketing Communications            fax   0344-303192
                                                  

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Date: 08 Feb 95 09:17:04 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Wheels/Tyres... and no end in sight

>     Are the "1-ton" rims that you are talking about the 101 rims, 
> because they don't fit standard  Series Land Rover hubs. The Series 
> have five wheel studs whereas the 101 (just to be different) had six.

No, no... nothing to do with the 101 Forward Control. There used to exist a
S.III 109 HCPU cab truck 1 Ton, very rare specimen, probably never made an
appearance Stateside. It had rims that stuck out more. These rims, in a
slightly modified form (6.5" as opposed to 5.5" on the 109 HCPU), are
nowadays used on the Defender 130 HCPU, the parts number of those rims is
ANR1534 or ANR1534PM ('PM' meaning that they are finished with black primer).
They fit on any Series hub without a problem, except that it does put a bit
more strain on the bearings and, in the absence of power steering, require
a bit more muscle.
*However* , when suggesting 9.00 tires as a possibility for 16" rims I
forgot to warn that on anything else than a Lightweight you would be
required to put HD springs & shocks all around and have to cut away part
of the front fender to allow for wheel articulation, alternatively to lift
the frame by _at_least_ 4" by means of longer shackles and spring mount
brackets, plus distance pieces under the rubber frame bump stops. That is, 
if you want to maintain full off-road articulation capabilities.

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 09:44:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Solihull

On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Lloyd Allison wrote:

> Am I correct in thinking that Land-Rover import
> Range Rovers, Discoveries and D90s (which are a special variant)
> into the USA but not D110s or D130s ?

	Correct.

> Can anyone tell me what dates the various imports (re-)started?

	Stopped:  LR = 1974
		  RR = Never imported into USA
		     = 1971 (Canada)

	Started   LR = 1992 (Defender 110, 525 units to USA/Canada)
	          RR = 1987 (USA)
		       1989 (Canada) (two years later than USA)

	Above is official stats.  Lots (100-1000+) of LR's were imported 
	into Canada between 1974 & 1992 by various governments, mining & 
	oil companies et cetera.

> Are V8 D90s still being imported?

	Yes, for another year or so.

	Rgds

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From: BAWILL01@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Date:         Wed, 08 Feb 95 10:15:54 EST
Subject:      U.S. Army Land-Rovers

For those interested, in the 29 December 1992 edition of "The Times" (London)
an article appeared entitled "Land Rover Wins Order For 48 Special Operations
Vehicles From U S Army."  The article, located on page 4D, includes a rather
nice photo of the model as well as an explaination as to why the Yanks wanted
the Land Rovers and what was modified upon them for this role.  Most major
universities subscribe to The Times and your best hope of finding this article
is to check the microfilm archives since most institutions do not yet have the
newspaper on CD-ROM.

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From: Bill Yerazunis <crash@icad.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:07:26 +0500
Subject: Drover vs. Hummer

Well, I went through the "disco vs. hummer" battle last April, when
I needed a new 4WD.

I test-drove 'em both- new vehicles only.  The disco accellerated
like a midsize sedan, maybe a little better.  At 80 MPH
on the Interstate (that is, keeping up with traffic) the noise level
inside was quite acceptable (important for prevention of driver
fatigue).  The seats were comfortable;  I could sprawl out in the back.

Off-road, the disco was, well, weird.  It would go anywhere inside
my "courage limit" (unlike my previous 4WD).  No grinding, no 
revving the engine and modulating torque with the clutch to keep
traction.  It just sorta _went_.  Quietly.  Gently.

The hummer, on the other hand, was loud.  It was loud standing still
and even louder on the road.  It could barely make 80 MPH with a
mile-long running start.   Interior noise was intolerable at 80-
now I *know* why military convoys are typically going only 55- it's
so the passengers can hear themselves think!  And you think a 109
has a big turning circle- the Hummer is worse!

And the hummer was huge, but there was no space inside!  Instead, there's
a center console the size of a large coffee table or maybe a coffin,
and it makes the vehicle clearly a 4-seater at best.  The station-wagon
version had space in the back, but not a lot- only about three and a
half feet vertically- not what you'd expect from a vehicle requiring
a seven foot roof clearance!

The Hummer had somewhat better ground clearance, but this was only
demonstratable with the salesman at the wheel- I refused to attempt the 
path he suggested.  { Courage limit, anyone? }

The final straw: a friend who'd spent four years in the Army suggested
that if I wanted to drive a Hummer, I'd better sign up for a tour of duty
as a Humvee mechanic, because that was the only way I'd be able to keep
one running.  Everything about the critter is weird, you need special
tools for just about everything.  "They work great- but when it breaks,
you need a humvee mechanic.  Really"

And the Disco cost $10,000 less.  :-)

	-Bill  (white 94 Disco, 27Kmiles in 9 months!)

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:20:08 PST
From: labranch@sybase.com (Jason LaBranch)
Subject: Speedometer Replacement

Hey Nuts,

Has anybody ever found/looked for a replacement speedometer for the
series workhorses -- I mean a good cheap replacement as apposed to
the $170 Land Rover one.  (ouch)  Mine is shot.  I oppened it up and
it actually is defective from the factory.  It worked for 18 or so
years but non the less has a production flaw.

While we are on the subject, what are the requirements for the
speedo.  Measurements?  Ratios?  etc...  I have 31" tires.

One last comment.  Wouldn't it be nice if the LandRover speedo's
odometer went up to 999,999 miles rather than 99,999?

Jason LaBranch				| To find your way, look within!
Parallel Products Group			|	-- AAA Road Atlas
Sybase Engineering  (510) 922-4690	|

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From: RLZiegler@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 12:51:16 -0500
Subject: Hess 6cyl. oil adaptor gasket

>From  parts cat. #4781 (dated 1966) there are 2 gaskets involved between the
adaptor and the 6 cyl. block: Joint washer front #274609 and Jt. washer rear
#274104.  Both will need to be replaced.

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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 14:27:14 -0500
From: stephen.thomas@tridom.com (Stephen Thomas)
Subject: Land Rover Rally in North Georgia, USA

Fellow LR Owners:

I have no affiliation with the following, but I do plan on attending.

>From a flyer:

           First Annual Batesville Land Rover Rally
                              in
             The Beautiful North Georgia Mountains
                         March 5, 1995

You (or anyone else you know who likes to have a good time and is
lucky enough to drive a Land Rover) are cordially invited to attend
the 1st (yes 1st) Annual (optimistic, aren't we) Batesville (Good
Morning America proved that there is a Batesville) Land Rover Rally.
(Well, it's really just a bit of a bumpy drive through the
beautiful, scenic National Forest.)

If will be held on Sunday (the only day the Hennesey [local LR Dealer]
guys can make it) March 5, 1995 (rain or shine, sleet or snow, unless
it's really bad). We plan to meet between 8:00am and 9:00am at the
Batesville General Store (intersection of SR 197 and GA 255, 12 miles
northeast of Helen, Georgia) for breakfast. (The best anywhere around.
You pay.) Then we will leave between 9:30am and 10:00am and take a
beautiful trip (some mountain highways, some single lane dirt). Nothing
too rough, just a bit challenging. The entire trip is about 50 miles
long. We should arrive back in downtown (ho ho!) Batesville about 3:00pm.
(Just in time to grab a burger or bowl of chili. You gotta pay again.)
Refreshments will be served approximately half way through the trip
(included in registration expenses).

So, if you can come, (and we sure do hope you can) then just fill out
the enclosed form and return it to us by Friday, February 17, 1995.

If you have any questions, please give us a call at home 404-343-8283.

We look forward to "rovering" with you,

Margie and Don

Directions:

If you nee more details, just give us a call. Get to Helen, Georgia the
best you know how. Then follow the signs to Unicoi State Park and once
there, continue northeast on SR 356 until it comes to an end and runs
into SR 197. Turn right onto SR 197 and go 1 mile. The Batesville General
Store will be on the right just past the first stop sign. The phone number
at the store is 706-947-3434 (just in case).

Other Suggestions:

The city of Helen is one of the number one tourist attractions in Georgia.
How about coming up early and spending the weekend. The number at the
Welcome Center is 706-878-2181. (Remember to bring your camera.)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
     (Please cut along dotted line ane mail to the address below.)

I or We would like to come have some fun.  _____ YES  _____ NO

There will be _____ adults _____ children _____ four-legged friends

I'm enclosing a check to cover expenses. How about $5.00 for adults and
$2.50 for children. Children under 12 and puppies (dogs) come for free.

I'd also like to order some stuff to remember the fun I just know we're
going to have. So I am including the extra $$$$$ to have these doodads
ready when I get there.

Tee Shirts   ___S ___M ___L ___XL ___XXL @ $15.50 (+ $2.50 for XXL) = $_____

Sweat Shirts ___S ___M ___L ___XL ___XXL @ $25.50 (+ $3.00 for XXL) = $_____

Caps         ___                         @  $8.00                   = $_____

                                                              TOTAL = $_____

Please make your checks for expenses and stuff payable to:

  Don or Margie Nelson
  4010 Camden Way
  Alpharetta, HA 30202-4454

We look forward to seeing you and the fun of experiencing what the north
                      Georgia mountains are about
                              Ya'll come

____________________________________________________________
Stephen Thomas
AT&T Tridom                 Phone: (404) 514-3522
840 Franklin Court          Fax:   (404) 514-3491
Marietta, GA 30067  USA     Email: stephen.thomas@tridom.com

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From: UncleBrad@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:01:22 -0500
Subject: Military Surplus Rover news

I think the guys I finally ended up talking to are South American mafia
types. After going around about the DOT & EPA requirements, I got the sense
that they were uncomfortable talking more about these Land Rovers. Like maybe
I was some sort of government spy trying to catch them in some illegal
activity. I got a call back later saying that the vehicles are NOT in the
country and are NOT for sale in the country and would I please NOT pass out
their phone numbe (That's why I haven't given it out). Maybe they are worried
that they could get into trouble even selling these vehicles here. Even
later, I got a call from someone else telling me that he had called them up
trying to arrange some sort of international deal and was told pretty much
the same thing. He said that those guys mean serious business. I don't think
they trusted him either, after being interrogated by me so recently, so he
lost the opportunity to work anything out with them as far as I know.

Bottom line on that avenue is "dead end". (I hope that's not an unfortunate
choice of words.)

See ya!

Brad

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From: Kelly Minnick <minnick@joker.chinalake.navy.mil>
Subject: Misc
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:07:18 PST

RE: Misc questions/comments
I have some misc. questions/comments:
1.  Most of the people I know are running stock Rover rims without tubes.  This
has not been a problem for me in the last 5 or so years.  Are they suppose to
leak?  Maybe you shouldn't have told me!
2.  Bladder for the 88" side tanks?  If I get hit that hard from a side impact,
will I still be alive?
3.  Starter leads.  I only have two.  One ground wire and one to the relay.
4.  Seems to me that if I only change the diffs from 4.7 to 3.54 I will have
a 30.1 overall in first. (compared to 40:1)  I've found in rough rock heaps
that I need even slower than 40:1 to keep from tearing the vehicle up. Traction
seems to be the problem, hence my ARB locker dream.  You can have the torque
to pull the 30:1, but I wouldn't want the limitations on slow-speed crawling.
(hence back to my RR trans/transfer & diffs!)
It's not easy, but it's FUN!
Kelly Minnick  '73 88" Safari
Ridgecrest, CA

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 14:46:06 -0700 (MST)
From: "George S. Reiswig" <gereiswi@NMSU.Edu>
Subject: Defender 90

Hello, all.  
	Forgive me for signing up prematurely, but I may own a Landy
someday.  I was hoping to find out a bit more about them from the experts,
who are bound to give me their objective, unbiased opinions!
	My current vehicle does very well off road, and on road as well. 
I test drove a D90 in Colorado Springs at Christmas, but could not take
the thing anywhere where challenging terrain presented itself.  
	My Isuzu has a rear locking dif, 500 mile range with the stock
tank, an apparently tighter turning circle, and is more comfortable on-road.
	The D90 was more comfortable on the tiny amount of dirt we DID
find.  I also like the utilitarian demeanor of the beast.
	So, all you D90 owners...why should I plop down such an
exhorbitant amount of money for the D90?  The salesman said that lockers
or limited slips were unnecessary, due to the wheel travel.  Well, maybe I
shouldn't believe a claim like that from a salesman...what do you think?  
	Also, how available are additinoal parts for it, such as a larger
fuel tank?  I will appreciate all input.  As I am in digest mode, it would
be most kind of you to e-mail me directly.  Thanks again in advance.
_______________________________________________________________________________
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
George Reiswig - '90 Isuzu Amigo                      Red Rock Four Wheelers
ARB Rear Locker, Warn XD9000 Winch                    Southwest 4WD Association
32X11.50-15 BFG Moab MT, air tank                     Las Cruces 4WD Club
Body armor and scratches
WANTED: V-6 conversion, 
front limited slip, transfer case
modification for lower final                  "God is dead..." - Neitzsche
drive ratio.                                  "Neitzsche is dead." - God
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Defender 90
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:25:13 PST

1: It will pull a trailer.
2: I drover an 88 Isuzu trooper around the canyon lands, and my
Range Rover could drive circles around it. I plan to test the d-90
in march.
3: Aluminum does not rust.
4: You can eat breakfast on the flat fenders
5: overbuilt 6000lbs GRVW
6: They have a personality (some blame this on the lucas electronics)

Russ Burns
92 Range Rover
94 D-90 

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 17:20:40 CST
From: bfreeman@heartland.bradley.edu (Benjamin Freeman)
Subject: For Sale

Dear friends I've found a larger LRR4^[[D(opps)Land Rover to
replace my 88 with. So I must part with my first pride an joy to
pay for the new one. I hope that you'll be able to help me as such here is my ad.
 '73-SIII 88 Limestone in color it's quite original in condition
I have a spare engine for it I've replaced the original seats
with Trakkers in Moorland. It;s Limestone in color(tan) and has
all the original parts it came with Yes, it's a show winner.
So if you or anyone you know is interested please e-mail me or
call or wirite
write me Ben Freeman (206)3653514

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From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland, III)
Subject: Series III 88 SPECS WANTED
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 18:39:01 

Hello,
I've recently put myself in the market for a Series III 88, and I would like 
any specs anybody would like to give such as, gross weight, height to top of 
roof, minimum ground clearance, avaiable instruments.  Also I wouldn't mind 
any pro's and cons about the Series III, just so as any cons are followed by 
which vehicle would provide a better item.  Also, what would be the best year 
to look for?

Thanks.

-- 
       One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
       One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
       In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie. 

<-> C. Taylor Sutherland, III <-> taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu      <->
<->  <-> IRC Nick:  NIV       <-> taylors@gamma.phys.clemson.edu  <->

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Subject: Military Land Rovers
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 15:51:02 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

	I was picking up some stuff I had bought yesterday at the gov't surplus
auction on base yesterday and was talking with one of the fork lift operators.
we were commenting on how the two M-151 jeep trailers had been sold for 
$375 (for one with out a tire and rim on one side, a flat on the other and
no tail lights at all) and $400 for a mostly intact one. (IMO they were worth
no more than $100).  Anyway the fork lift guy was mentioning that Edwards
Air Force base was dumping all of their trailers because of they had gotten
rid of all of their jeeps and bought Hummers and Land Rovers.
	Now I did have my Land Rover with me, but I don't think he was ever
in the position to be able to read any of the tags that said Land Rover.  So
as far as I could tell this was a completely unsolicited comment about 
Land Rovers from a guy who usually works at Edwards.  I tried to press him
on the matter, but he was called away to deal with another person. 
	I have never been to Edwards, so I can't even attempt to confirm the
rumor.  	 

-Benjamin Smith
----------------
 Science Applications Internation Corporation
 China Lake Naval Air Warfare Center
 bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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Date: 08 Feb 95 19:57:28 EST
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Wednesdays digest.

The 2 litre cylinder diesel cylinder head will fit a 2 1/4 petrol or diesel
block, but watch out for the water jacket drain holes, use the head gasket to
compare patterns  and add the appropriate holes, can't remember which way the
drilling is required, it was 20 years ago, the head will not fit with the later
timing case cover, the thermostat housing is bigger on the early heads.  It is
possible to build the 2 litre crank, cam, head, pump, timing cover etc onto a 2
1/4 block,
 The timing cover of the later 2 litre diesels are sought after by the 2 1/4
racers because they were made from aluminium.

 The loose hot spot damage to the block is best repaired by changing the block.
I have seen a weld repair and liner job done but it is more expensive than
changing the block. The petrol and diesel engines use the same block.  I have
one in Cleveland UK that you can have free.
The head can be salvaged by a competent machinist by boring the hole to a larger
dia and fitting a sleeve to reduce the bore to take a new hot spot. I did over
50 k miles on an engine with such a repair before selling the vehicle.

 The Ser 2a and 2B 110 wheelbase forward controls of the sixties and early
seventies, the ser 2a and 3 1 ton 109's   and the current 130 models were/are
fitted with a 7.00 wide wheel rim with the standard 5 stud fixing. The same rim
as used on the 101 with a 6 stud nave plate ( i have seen plenty of 101 wheels
in which the standard  nave plate was fitted to enable the rim to be used on a
standard vehicle in the days when 1010 rims were cheap and the FC rims were
expensive.)  the rims are designed for the 9.00 x 16 tyre  but are fitted with a
7.50 x 16 tyre on the 130's

 In the UK the radial tubes are lighter than the bias tubes 

  Regards   Bill  Leacock     Limey in exile.

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:16:10 +0000
From: Steve Firth <steve@firthcom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Stealth Forces?

Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu> wrote:

>>So I'd say that they were going to do something somewhere that they were
>>not supposed to be and needed a vehicle that would not scream  HERE COMES
>>THE AMERICANS..<<

Yes,and I hear that the Rangers are tought to only give name rank and
serial number in the event of capture, accompanied by the words "Ektually
old chep, we are British"

--
Steve Firth, '81 109" SIII Safari 2.25 petrol.

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 17:46:46 PST
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Problems with brake lights

All, 

Hear is a real electric problem for you all lucas gurus. Just put a new 
battery in the SIII and started getting everything connected up. Almost 
everything works fine !!! except the following :

When I hit the brake pedal, the front side lights and brake/side lights come 
on, when I put the side lights on, all the side lights come on as they should. 
However, the brake lights also come on !

I have replaced the brake switch and the same things happens. I have had the 
brake switch out of the housing and manually pressed it, same thing happens. 
When I connect up the brake switch with the ignition on, all the side lights 
come on.  

I have taken the connector off the fuse for the brake and checked the lights, 
the lights all work fine. I found the lead to the fuse for the brake, took 
that off and tried the lights. Lights work fine. 

I'm real puzzled by this. One other thing, the Land Rover is not running when 
I do all this. It seems as though the brake lights are wired into the lighting 
system somewhere, although I can't find it. Any ideas ?????? Is there a bullet 
connector somewhere where this could be connected by mistake ???? 

Also, does anyone know the colour of the wires to the reversing lights ? My 
Haynes manual does'nt show reversing lights, I think its Green, but EVERYTHING 
is @#$%*&^ GREEN !!! even the line to the brakes !!!

Mark

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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 22:29:34 -0500
From: Andrew Steele <ad158@dayton.wright.edu>
Subject: Re: Problems w/ brake lights

Mark,

The only advice I can offer is a comment, that come next Christmas, if you
don't have the problem tracked down yet, that the inclusion of your Rover into
the front yard Christmas display is sure to make it a winner in the
neightborhood light decoration contest.

Otherwise, (no Land Rover experience here) look for:
        1) crudded up fuse box/connectors where several wires are grouped 
           together.

        2) look for any group of wires close to a heat source that could have
           melted them together.

        3) If all else fails, it's never considered defeat to systematically
           replace problem wire runs (and grounds) with new colorcoded/labeled

           wire.

(Jeeeze, typing without an editor is a real pain)

Andrew
Dayton, OH
Hello, calling all diesels, would one of you like to come home to Ohio?)

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Matchbox Land Rover Fire Engine
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 23:40:49 -0700 (MST)

Mad Uncle Roger writes:
 
< Matchbox has come out with a remake of a 1948 Land Rover Fire Engine.  It's 
<  1/43 scale, and costs $26.95. It's only available via mail order, or 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
< The phone number to order or get more info is (800)858-0102.  I've ordered 
< one, and will let you all know when it gets here.

For those of you in the US who have "USA Weekend" as the Sunday magazine
supplement to their metro daily, this Rover (80" with a trailer) is
depicted in all its glory in an advert on Feb 3/5.  It purports to be
Australian (UK being represented by a Bedford), but none of the models have
particular fire dept insignia.  It is one of six in the "Official
international fire engine collection".  The ad offers them on subscription
basis at $24.50 each.  1:43 scale is identical to the recent very fine
Dinky AA Series I, but this model looks far more detailed and handsome
than the Dinky, and certainly more so than the smaller runofthemill
Matchboxes.  Definitely looks like a superb collectible.  Besides the same
1-800 number, ad also gives address:  Matchbox Collectibles Inc.,
Portland, OR 97207-0639. 

The ad makes no mention of these being available singly.  Roger, where 
did you hear about it?

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA
      http://mercury.cair.du.edu/~tomills (under construction)

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