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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:58:02 +0100
From: ketil@tvnorge.no (Ketil Kirkerud)
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Question

 > 
 > My roommate related the story of a co-worker who had an accident with an 
 > explorer -- rear-ended someone at 15mph.  Did $9,000 worth of damage.  My 
 > roommate did the same thing in his toyota truck at 40mph for $4,000 worth of 
 > damage.  I doubt a Rover would have much at all in the way of damage.

My brother rear-ended a smallish Toyota with my Land-Rover. The Toyo 
was standing still, but took a leap, and hit a car in the opposite lane.

Results : Land-Rover : new glass for indicator light, and a bill of
about $400 for straightening out the lefthand bumper-bracket. The other cars
were totalled.

I'd estimate the speed at about 50 Km/H....

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Ketil Kirkerud			Lillebil
TVNorge A/S			1979 109" Petrol SW.
	

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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:33:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Gregory Brown <brow7767@mstr.hgc.edu>
Subject: Paddock,Craddock, and Mercyside

Erik asks about Paddock:
AEW Paddock is an English supply house of .......... Land Rover parts.  
Also there are two other frequently mentioned on the net Parts 
Houses:John Craddock and Mercyside Land Rover.  Also at the end of the 
digest is a WWW site for the Land Rover home page.  There is a lenghty 
listing of suppliers in the US, UK and the rest of the world.  If you 
need more help and want the telephone numbers and addresses let me know.

Greg
'71 Series IIA 88
Connecticut, USA
Aaah new rocker shaft and rebushed rockers.... Umm oil pressure still poor 

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From: Steve Methley <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: rust off steel
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 20:46:43 GMT

To the person with a rusty chassis:

Try a wire brush in an angle grinder - not the electric drill type,
but one _rated for the grinder speed_.  If you've never seen it you'll
wonder why you did it any other way.  I assume you know the other
safety requirements too, of course.

Cheers,
Steve, 79RR.

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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:53:54 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Reverse Lights Etc.

>Greg asked about Spanish ODs:
>Toro is the brand.  I have heard that they have a bigger oil reservoir and
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>supposedly more robust than the Fairey units.  It's a direct replacement. I 
>don't understand why ABP wants another $100-$200 for them.  

If that's the case, I have (I think) a Toro on my 109", and every one keeps 
telling me that it's terrible, and I should sell it to them for $50...  <g>  
There are some things that make it better than the fairey, but I don't 
remember what they are.  I do know it has a dipstick on the top to check the 
oil.  Wonder why the transmission & Transfer case don't have one?  

If they're available, I'll probably get one for my 88" (when I win the 
lottery).

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:53:48 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Reversing Lights

Why not just wire up a manual switch?  Since the lights aren't stock issue, 
you could probably also remove them.  Silly question here...  Did you check 
to see if the bulbs work?

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:53:51 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: The 'Anti-Christ'

There was an article in the last Aluminum Workhorse about various movies 
starring Land Rovers.  And in the issue before that, some talk about what the 
ultimate land Rover movie is.  

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:12:31 -0500
From: rwegner@fimage.synapse.net (Richard Wegner)
Subject: XMAS gift from my Land Rover

This is my second posting to LRO Digest, and I have a problem which
requires some pondering!  I live up in Northern Quebec, about 40 miles from
Ottawa, with wife, son, dog and a 1974 Series III Land Rover, that I am
trying to keep in good original condition.

I was planning to give my LR a XMAS present by taking it on holidays for a
week, but it look like it beat me to it. The problem started over a month
ago when it seemed to be charging intermittently. I took the LUCAS <gasp>
alternator into a shop in Ottawa to check. They replaced the stator and
voltage regulator to the tune of $150. I put it on and everything seemed
OK.

Last weekend I took it for a longer drive and noticed on the way back that
it had gone off charge. I left it for a week and then went out to check it
for the trip. When it went to start it I noticed the warning light was not
on.

I thought aha!, the warning light is burnt out and because it is directy
connected to the circuit the alternator is not charging. Several hours
later I was convinced that the alternator was the problem. Because if I
took a jumper lead and connected it to the IND terminal on the back of the
alternator, and then to the negative post of the battery (grounding it) the
warning light would come on.

Yesterday being XMAS eve, I was getting desperate and went over to a
friend's place (Dr John Wotton - for those OVLR members) whose poor Land
Rover is now resting peacefully under a crabapple tree, waiting for a frame
restoration.

John was good enough to let me borrow his alternator. Brought it home put
it one! Same problem. John said his alternator was working when he parked
it over a year or two ago. Now is it possible that 2 LUCAS alternators
would both have the same problem on XMAS eve. Decided to investigate
further! After several hours yesterday I have tried the following.

Have checked and bypassed connections on both sides of the warning light.
Everything OK. I can get the light to light up if I ground the connection
that goes to the IND terminal of the alternator.

I have tried grounding the alternator directly to the negative post of the
battery. NO change.

I have checked both the the S and + connections to the alternator. OK,
power is going thru them to the alternator.

Does this warning light simply get power from the white wire coming from
the ignition switch and ground thru the IND terminal of the alternator? If
so it would seem that there is a open circuit in the alternator!

This is getting long, so I am going to leave it there. I hope that is enough.

At this point I am still perplexed, so I guess the LR will be resting
peacefully till early January, as we go off in our old VOLVO.

A Hearty Merry Christmas to all LAND ROVER enthusiasts out there!! :-{>

Cheers!

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From: "Jurgen Klus" <PSJK@psy1.ssn.flinders.edu.au>
Date:          Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:45:06 GMT-0930
Subject:       Goodbye

unsubscribe lro-digest
Jurgen Klus    Voice 618 201 2413
               Fax 618 201 3877

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From: "Jurgen Klus" <PSJK@psy1.ssn.flinders.edu.au>
Date:          Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:42:08 GMT-0930
Subject:       Goodbye

Well, all comes to pass. I must bid yee all farewell. I must leave 
this wonderful group of people, who all have such good taste!

Yes, my esteemed employer, (Flinders University), has made me 
redundant. I am so sad, after all these years, thrown upon the heap 
at such a young age (I'm only 36!). What's worse, there goes my 
internet connection!

What will I do with all that grubby money they're going to give me? 
Well, I guess I'll just have to drive my Discovery around and think 
about it!

As Douglas Adams said (Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy), See you, 
and thanks for all the fish.

the best to all of you.......
Jurgen Klus    Voice 618 201 2413
               Fax 618 201 3877

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 18:30:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Reversing Lights

Chris..

Reverse lamp switch.... Atlantic British lists one and I imagine Rovers
North does too... You can probably find a compatible switch at a good
electronic supply place.

As far as repairing the speedo... You could call Rovers North for starters..
Also, pick up a copy of Hemmings Motor News and check the ads for places
that repair guages. If you've never seen Hemmings, its a thick monthly
magazine that caters to the old car hobby and consists mainly of ads for
vehicles for sale. Good source of info on speciaized restoration services.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 18:30:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Dail...

Erik...
 
> Rust and Paint Removal??
......
> and take it to be sandblasted, nor do I want to make a career of wire
> brushing by hand. Suggestions?
> Also, what's the best way to remove the paint from the body panels?

I'm faced with a similar situation with my '65. For right now I'm sanding or
wire-brushing. Once Winter is over I'll be ready to attack the frame. I've
considered sandblasting it, but then there is the problem of getting sand
inside the frame. A few people I know have had thier frames galvanized but
that means you have to haul it somewhere to be done. Have you considered
renting a sandblaster??

> The last question:  What is "Paddocks" refered to in the digest?  More
That would be A.E.W. Paddock Motors Ltd, a supplier of Land Rover parts in
the U.K.  I've had good luck with them, others have not. Not all the parts
they supply are "genuine Land Rover". Prices are pretty good.
 Phone # (0629) 584499, Fax (0629) 584498 if you're interested.

If you can find a copy of "Land Rover Owner" magazine, you'll see ads from
Paddock and other suppliers.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 19:00:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Reverse Lights Etc.

Roger...

> If that's the case, I have (I think) a Toro on my 109", and every one
> keeps 
> telling me that it's terrible, and I should sell it to them for $50...
none

True, true! Rotten piece of machinery... Sell it to me for $50!! I'll even
pay the shipping...  :)

> There are some things that make it better than the fairey, but I don't 
> remember what they are.  I do know it has a dipstick on the top to check
> the 
> oil.  Wonder why the transmission & Transfer case don't have one?  

Actually, I don't know squat about the Toro, but the Fairey I have also has
a dipstick. 

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: FHYap@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:20:11 -0500
Subject: Discovery & Religion

Queries: (1) Would a Discovery have similar damage to the Explorer or Toyota
(what model) if it rear ended another vehicle (as described in a recent
mailing)? (2)  Any comment of the report in CarSmart (by the editors of
Popular Mechanics?) where they test several popular "SUV" and conclude that
the Discovery is an "unacceptable vehicle?"

Note:  There is a recent Wall Street Journal article about Charlton Heston's
Voyage Through the Bible, a CD-ROM version of the bible (available next
Christmas), where Heston traverses the Holy Land in a Land Rover.

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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 00:28:47 -0500
From: rwegner@fimage.synapse.net (Richard Wegner)
Subject: Alternator/warning light problem

Anyone posting advice on my charging problem please post to the LRO Daily
Digest or to me directly. I was not able to send this from home before I
left at XMAS so posted it from my friend's site at "guild@sail.uwaterloo.ca
(Paul D. Guild)".

Just got back today, so have not had time to look at the Land Rover yet!

Cheers and all the best for 95'

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