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1 Pierce Reid [70004.4011@15Weight Plate anyone?
2 Steven M Denis [denis@o24Re: strength issues
3 Steven M Denis [denis@o29Re: Click and Clack
4 Steven M Denis [denis@o31Re: Just curious on Series I
5 jan [jhilborn@moose.uvm.20Re: Click and Clack
6 robdav@sunshine.vab.para25Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
7 robdav@sunshine.vab.para40Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
8 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000421Pontificating Landy
9 LANDROVER@delphi.com 19Re: Click and Clack
10 LANDROVER@delphi.com 22Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Dige
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Date: 27 Dec 94 08:31:00 EST
From: Pierce Reid <70004.4011@compuserve.com>
Subject: Weight Plate anyone?

Howdy all:

I have a request...

Does anyone have a bridge weight plate for a Series IIa Military Land Rover?
This is a pie-plate-sized yellow disc that goes on the front of the wing.  

Thanks!

R. Pierce Reid

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 09:12:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: strength issues

Holy breakage Winchman!...the "grab" handles on the rear ar *NOT* strong 
enough to winch  from ...(the 110's have *aluminum* handles yeeow!) the 
welded on brackets that seem to be strong but too small are the hinge 
mounts for the tail gate...don't use these! the best place to pull from 
on the rear is the hitch plate with clevis pin..a trailer hitch ball is 
not strong enough to support an 8000+ pull..it says 3500 lbs for a 
reason...I've put that and more on one...but if it had failed.......
if you haven't a good crossmember, use a shackle on the spring 
hanger...and do not pull too hard.....it won't break, but you can twist 
things all out of line.......

steve.....

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 09:25:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Click and Clack

Ok...I heard the original piece...Peg calls up and asks for help on 
wording an car advertisment..."Yeah,great, we can do that" say click and 
clack..."what kind of car are you selling?"..."I'm not really selling a 
car, I'm trying to meet a guy..." says Peg....with out missing a beat, 
theses two radio clowns/mechanics go on to discribe the type of guy Peg 
is looking for."careing, intelligent outdoorsy (good speller?) well 
traveled etc......She agrees completely...."*OK*" say Tom and Ray.."do 
you have a piece of paper?" "This is how the ad is going to read: 1959 
Land Rover, good condition...."....................<grin>
they go on to tell her how to tell the guy that she has just gotten back 
from Africa and needs a faster car for going back and forth to the 
university or some such thing.....*I* for one would *not* have been 
pleased  to find that this (insert nasty name for a female here) had 
wasted my time .....and really one would have to wonder about someone who 
would start a realationship on a false premise......
But it was a fun bit...
steve......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 09:38:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Just curious on Series I

"We'er here , we're *here*!" (courtesy Horton hears a Who)

I have a 1957 107 sw....and it had some *really* goofy lights on the 
back...like black cones (inverted) with front parking lamp lenses glued 
on....I picked up some replacement lamps at craddocks that are *very* 
near to the original USA spec lights..they are plastic lenses and have a 
clear section for the licence plate light....they do not match the Home 
Market lamp, but in the series one workshop book they show *this* lamp 
for USA....and I believe that they are made by the oem supplier......
they have the 2 filiment bulbs and the turn lamp switch is of the type 
that uses the stop lamp for the turn signal (normal early USA system) my 
switch is the dampened lever type mounted on the dash...and if it wears 
out, I install the spare one....
.As for the axels, I have the originals and a spare set...I'm told that 
the shafts for a lightweight may fit this...I dunnno....

steve......

PS..we are still short the original engine tho.....

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 09:46:50 -0500 (EST)
From: jan <jhilborn@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: Click and Clack

On Mon, 26 Dec 1994 LANDROVER@delphi.com wrote:

> Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers
>  "Click" and "Clack" are actually two brothers (Tom and Ray) who run a
> repair garage in the  Boston, Mass area.
none

 with a name like Loiodice and you don't even attempt Tom & Ray's last name?
   coward...

 jan hilborn

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 94 10:30:27 EST
From: robdav@sunshine.vab.paramax.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re:  The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

David John Place wrote: "I too have pictures of these vehicles... Ron Mowry
...lightweights and 109s..."
David:
with all due respect, you do not have pictures of the 90s and 110s we've been
discussing.  Pete Kersman bought one of the vehicles that Mowry was trying
to sell in the US (all series III 109s and leightweights not 90's and 110s).
I too have pictures of the vehicles you mentioned which were complete and
still in Canada. Some rather nice too.  Without going into the character of
Mr. Mowry the stuff in Montana is junk.  Let me repeat it again JUNK.
None were complete and some had been used for target practice, run over by
tanks, and then further destroyed by the army (on purpose) before being 
purchased by "our man" in Montana.
Apples and oranges sort of speak.
Again let me repeat this very clearly be careful with what you buy in
Great Falls Montana.  Your pictures are from a different person/outfit.
Ron was only acting as a broker for someone in Canada selling Series IIIs.
Ron is in Maine the Series IIIs in Canada Calgary area I think anyway
the 110s and 90s belong in a landfill and are in Montana and not associated with Mowry.
No offence just two separate lots of vehicles, or should I say Series III vehicvehicles and 90/110 bits, pieces, and other worthless junk.
R&D.

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 94 10:59:01 EST
From: robdav@sunshine.vab.paramax.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re:  The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Bramen wrote about tailgates, hatches and so on.
Bramen to install a rear door you need only remove the rear hatch, tailgate
chains, and other hardware and hang the door.  I've done this several times
with good results.  Make sure the rear door has the correct hinges.
With the hinges attached fit the rear door into the rear body.  Have someone ininside prop the door up until the lower edhe no longer rests on the rear body.
I use a wife and have her shove rags under the door until I'm satisfied
with the door height.  Then i swing out the hinges and mark the holes with
a marker.  Then I drill the holes througt the body slightly higher at the top
(to allow for the weight of the door to pull down on the hindge.  Then I remove
the door, drill the top hinge bolt holes and bolt the door up and see how it
fits, ususlly OK.  If not try to adjust the hindge ar the door and then by
using a small round file through the body holes.  Then drill the lower 
holes through the body.  Install the lower bolts, striker, and rubber in the 
gaps left by the big black tailgate rubbers.
Most people like the hatch/tailgate, espically when they replace the top
with canvas in warm conditions like summer.  I don't like the hatch.
I'm over 6'2" and once walked right into an open one (just above my line
of vision).  After recovering I decided the hatch was not my thing.  Let
me caution you, the odds are in favor of you smacking your farehead, event-
ually.  Rear glazed (with glass) doors are available, and vary in price.
Rovers North has then as well as a number of suppliers here and in UK:
Craddack, Paddock, and so on.  You can even get heated rear glass, which
almost works to defrost the rear window.  Rear hatches are also known for
breaking the brackets that attach the inside prop rods to the brackets on
the body and involve a few minutes of fiddeling around to get the back all
the way opened.  Most think they are more trouble then they are worth.
Mike and others would trade you for a good rear door.
I liked what Bill Parks did to his son's 88.  Bill cut off a rear door and
added some internal supports, then capped it with a piece of the galv molding
from the front of the rear body.  Cut out the handle area and added a top
hindge (center hinge for his full rear door).  Then just switches rear
doors from full to half when removing the top for warm periods.
Simple and effective.
Good Luck,
R&D

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Date: 27 Dec 94 18:54:10 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Pontificating Landy

Just FYI, on page 36 of the Dec.26 issue of TIME magazine there's a rare
and historic photo of the Pope taken on his visit to Nigeria in 1982
standing quite profanely on the loadspace of what is obviously a S.III
88" truck cab painted in bright Vatican-yellow and white - "the Man of the
Year and the Car of the Year" - or its predecessor, anyway. If you look
close, there's another dark Land Rover following the Pope's cavalcade,
a bit obscured by dust - probably a security vehicle.
To my knowledge the Pontiff, after a short and probably well sponsored
excursion into the Dark Empire of Mercedes, is now back to Land Rovers,
using Discovery-based armoured Popemobils on his foreign visits. And,
at least according to dogma, *the Pope cannot be wrong* ...  right?

Hope you all had a groovy Christmas!

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 20:36:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Click and Clack

Oh, geeeeee.... Jan's giving me a hard time.....

> >  "Click" and "Clack" are actually two brothers (Tom and Ray) who run a
> > repair garage in the  Boston, Mass area.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>    coward...
>  jan hilborn

Damm right... The best I can manage is something like Mariachi or Marchione
or something like that... I'm soooo embarassed!

Cheers
Mike

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 20:36:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  The Land Rover Owner Daily Dige

Robert Davis discusses installing rear doors...

> I use a wife and have her shove rags under the door until I'm satisfied
> with the door height.  Then i swing out the hinges and mark the holes with
> a marker.  Then I drill the holes througt the body slightly higher at the

Gee... do you use any old wife or is there a specific variety? I had a couple
of those but they were too much trouble to keep around.  :)

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 21:47:28 -0500
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