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1 tmot0030@cdc8g5.cdc.poli32Ascii Rovers (late)
2 Mr Ian Stuart [IAN@lab0.20Re: List trivia
3 BwanaE@aol.com 302.6 litre stuff
4 William Caloccia [calocc29forwarded message
5 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em22Re: List trivia
6 Julianbak@aol.com 15Land Rover Cold Starts
7 WB6AGE@aol.com 22Re. synthetics
8 John Hess [jfhess@ucdavi29I'm home!
9 WB6AGE@aol.com 22synthetics
10 Craig Murray [craigp@ocs22Loads of 2.25 diesel stuff!!
11 Craig Murray [craigp@ocs49It's off the road at last!!
12 David John Place [umplac10Re: forwarded message
13 David John Place [umplac18Re: Land Rover Cold Starts
14 LANDROVER@delphi.com 44Re: It's off the road at last!!


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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 13:19:19 +0100
From: tmot0030@cdc8g5.cdc.polimi.it (Ludovico)
Subject: Ascii Rovers (late)

I'm a little late on this,
here's my contribution...

_________________________________________________________

        __________________________
       |--------------------------|            1984
      /____________________________\        Series III
     ||             ||             ||           88
     ||             ||             ||       Land Rover
     ||             ||             ||     Station Wagon
     ||______ ______||______ ______||       
     |______ /    ______    \ ______|          
    |   __  | ___|______|___ |  __   |      
    |O /  \ ||___|______|___|| /  \ O|      
    |O \__/ ||___|______|___|| \__/ O|     
    |       ||___|______|___||       |
    |       | \__|______|__/ |       | 
    |_______|_____\____/_____|_______|
   |__________________________________|
    |    |                      |    |
____|____|______________________|____|___________________

For William Grouell - Sorry for the delay, I'll send you a message with all 
the details you  need next week
Ludo
tmot0030@cdc8g5.cdc.polimi.it 

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 16:41:51 +0000
Subject: Re: List trivia

> 	Land Rover Mailing-List (lro@stratus.com)
> 	Month		messages	size (bytes)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
> 	October		504		905,790
> 	November	575		842,940
And what happened in July/August?

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/>      
           Play -- <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>
#======================================================================#
Pessimists are often pleasently suprised by life, |Land Rover owners do
optimists find it full of disappointments.        |  it in the mud.

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From: BwanaE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 12:14:37 -0500
Subject: 2.6 litre stuff

For any other brave souls out there who are still running the original 2.6
litre NADA 6-cylinder in their LWB SW ( the way God and Solihul intended),
here's a brief note and a question:

To convert from the C-42 generator to an alternator, you need the following:
#587433      Adjusting bracket - alternator
                                                  $ 21.50
ERC2363    Mounting bracket
                                                                        7.50
ERC2364    Mounting bracket
                                                                        7.25
4444           Lucas 70 amp alternator
                                                           249.85

*Note: prices and part numbers are from British Rovers @ 800-327-6837.

Here's the question part: Has anybody out there experience with converting
from the stock pulley driven fan over to a thermostatically-controlled,
electric fan? This is my next project and unless I hear contrary advice, I
was going to order an extra-heavy duty unit from Whitney and give it a go.
Any thoughts?

BwanaE (Eric Cope)   67 LWB SW, 2.6l NADA
                                64 SWB,  "beater"

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 12:48:37 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>
Subject: forwarded message

Date:    10 Dec 94 17:45:14 EST
From:    "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Wheel nuts

Once more to the breach dear friends, where can I buy a gun, this is
driving me crazy trying to send a message.Got some of the mail.

Re: wheel nuts.

Ser 1, 2 an d 2a wheel studs are 9/16 in British Standard
Fine ( BSF ) the spanner size is a Whitworth size, not 15/16 in. Late
2a's were fitted with 9/16 in studs and special nuts hich are 27 mm
accross flats. Near enough 1 1/16 in for our colonial associates.  Ser
3 are fitted with 16 mm dia wheel studs. ( colonials note metric not
inch.  ) and the nut is 27 mm. The larger a/f wheel nuts can of course
be retrofitted to older vehicles but I rec that the fitting of the 16
mm pull thro studs to the earlier vehicles is a major benefit to safety
and security of wheel mounting.  Incidentally whilst on the subject
"DO NOT" repeat "DO NOT" be tempted to weld the small to the back of
the wheel hub. This is extremely dangerous and can result in the loss
of the roadwheel. The welding process alters the structure of the steel
an d makes it brittle and thus very likely to shear easily. Hope this
is worth the typing effort  Rgds. Bill

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 13:16:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: List trivia

On Sun, 11 Dec 1994, Mr Ian Stuart wrote:

> > 	July		309		481,891
> > 	August		615		949,585

> And what happened in July/August?

	The counts were done based on the date stamp of the individual
	message files in the aliases newsgroup (fourfold.lro).  Several
	times this past year, the IP link to ocunix.on.ca dropped at
	uunet.ca.  When this happens, mail piles up and is released into
	this domain all at once.  A drop could have occurred at the
	end of July.  If so, you could move some 50-60 messages from
	August to July.  Otherwise, the bulk of us were out having fun
	in the summer months (the few that we get here...:-))

	Rgds,

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From: Julianbak@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:40:49 -0500
Subject: Land Rover Cold Starts

HI,

My 1966 Series 11A with Solex Carb starts and idles great once warmed-up, but
starting the engine from cold requires 5-10 re-starts and much coxing the
throttle.  Does anyone know if the Zenith carb is better with cold starts.  I
am thinking of switching to the Zenith, but only if it improves the
situation.

Julian, Portland Oregon 

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From: WB6AGE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 16:49:42 -0500
Subject: Re. synthetics

Have used synthetics (Mobil products) in all my rolling stock for years with
excellent experience.  Typically I have found that it maintains it's
viscosity at low low temperatures making sub zero shifts and starts easy.
 Also excellent anitfriction qualities, gearbox inspection after 150,000 plus
miles of synthetic gear lube operation found all parts, except synchros, to
be within spec.  I use all synthetic lubes in my 60 SII 88 with the exception
of engine oil, The diesel has a large enough pan capacity and a frequent
enough change interval that my bank account can't afford it.  However I have
used 15W-50 synthetic in our 82 Nissan wagon.  At 132,000 miles the engine
uses no oil and an inspection of the valve area shows no varnish or sludge
deposits, and that is with a full oil change every 20,000 miles and a filter
and top off every 5,000.  Also use all synthetic gear and auto trans fluid in
my 77 Mercedes 300D. Again, 185,000 miles with zero problems.  Go figure.

Bob Cosentino, WB6AGE@AOL.COM
1960 SII 88 Perkins conversion

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 16:21:46 -0800 (PST)
From: John Hess <jfhess@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: I'm home!

Hello everyone!,

The formerly wannbe land rover owner is now at home and IS a Land Rover 
owner!  Call it trial by fire (or stupidity or cheapness??)  but we 
bought the Dormobile in MAINE and drove it home (central valley of 
northern California).

I will be posting multiple messages later but I am modeming now and my 
PPP connection actually makes typing too slow!

Final tally:  maine to california, 1 broken wheel (yes wheel) 1 broken 
speedo cable (keeps the original miles low!)  and one oil leak from the 
engine way in back where I can't see it yet.  Used 6 quarts of oil.  No 
90 wt.  No coolant lost.

Russell id a great host and went above and beyond to help me out by 
phone.  I think he is right now traveling but hope someday he can get out 
to visit me.  That goes for the rest of you too.  I put Ben Smith up on 
our lumpy (too small for him, but so is his 88) futon, and welcome anyone 
else who is in the neighborhood to stop bye.

Thanks, will be posting other stuff  with appropriate subject lines,

John Katherine and Alex (he's 8) Hess.

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From: WB6AGE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 19:46:21 -0500
Subject: synthetics

Have used synthetics (Mobil products) in all my rolling stock for years with
excellent experience.  Typically I have found that it maintains it's
viscosity at low low temperatures making sub zero shifts and starts easy.
 Also excellent anitfriction qualities, gearbox inspection after 150,000 plus
miles of synthetic gear lube operation found all parts, except synchros, to
be within spec.  I use all synthetic lubes in my 60 SII 88 with the exception
of engine oil, The diesel has a large enough pan capacity and a frequent
enough change interval that my bank account can't afford it.  However I have
used 15W-50 synthetic in our 82 Nissan wagon.  At 132,000 miles the engine
uses no oil and an inspection of the valve area shows no varnish or sludge
deposits, and that is with a full oil change every 20,000 miles and a filter
and top off every 5,000.  Also use all synthetic gear and auto trans fluid in
my 77 Mercedes 300D. Again, 185,000 miles with zero problems.  Go figure.

Bob Cosentino, WB6AGE@AOL.COM
1960 SII 88 Perkins conversion

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Loads of 2.25 diesel stuff!!
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 13:07:22 EDT

Hi all,
        I tried re-timing the motor so that it blew less smoke, so I 
tried to move the distributor pump while the motor was running, and I 
could not get the pump to budge at all!, so I tried the spill method, it 
worked! it blew less smoke, but I managed the impossible, I reduced the 
power out put, (I hear you ask, how can he reduce the power when there is 
none to start with!), but it would only slugishly accelerate(If thats the 
right word!) down hills!!!! so I moved it back to its smokey old position.
I'm just about to give up, and paying some-one to get it right!

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                            1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                              2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia                    I slow for hills!
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                         but not of my own will

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: It's off the road at last!!
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 13:35:47 EDT

Hi all,
        This sunday I finally took my little series 1 four wheelin'.  The 
first decent mud hole I came to, I got stuck in, have to get used to 
using the load pedal (Very load in fact) and that thing they call momentum.

Then along some tracks until we came across a tree down across the track, 
and being the wise packers that we are, we said, ho, we don't have a 
chain saw, or an axe, so we got out to see if there was a way round, this 
is were disaster struck, my normally good hand break decided it was not 
going to work, so my vehicle rolled into the tree, noramlly this would 
not be so bad, but the tree was in the air, and bent the top of my snorkle,
(Spenny do you want me to take new photos so that they have a snorkle 
that looks not so new or just the ones I've already got?)  So we 
eventually turn around and take another track that by passes the tree, 
and take a wrong turn, down this really over grown track, and being a hot 
day, I had decided to take the door tops off, ouch! what a mistake! my 
brother, ended up sitting in the back of the shortie to stop all the 
branches from scratching him! This scrub also broke my mirror!  
Eventually we got back on track, and while we were having a break for 
lunch, I noticed that one of the windows in the rear quater panel, was 
falling out!  I think the window seals are little passed their used by date!
After lunch we drove a few more tracks, through a particularly shallow 
(Unfortunately) river, and then on to an interesting hill, not long, but 
steep, and it looks like a creek bed going up hill!  I managed to pick my 
way up it though, and I did not even need my diff lock!  After that I 
drove through some more mud holes.  Later after crawling down a hill into 
a crowded picnic ground, I just got out of sight of the campers when my 
front prop shaft fell off! talk about timing, so I high tailed it home 
after that.

But I really like the diesel for driving in the bush, a lot more that my 
holden boatanchor, I mean motor.

By for Now.

P.S. next week the 1000 Mile service!!!!!

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Craig Murray                                            1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                              2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia                    I slow for hills!
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                         but not of my own will

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 23:07:34 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: forwarded message

I have a question about these wheel nuts.  I have 8 Land Rovers with both 
the double beveled nuts and the single beveled nuts and in almost all of 
them the thread did not come through the top of the nut.  In fact I would 
say the studs on all of them are too short for the nuts Land Rover 
supplies.  Has anyone ever checked to see why this is so? Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 23:11:17 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Land Rover Cold Starts

Don't change carbs yet.  See the last copy of Alum. Workhors and make a 
heat oven for your carb.  It should solve the problem.  If it doesn't, 
try checking the choke plate to make sure it is closing properly.  It 
sounds like you need a richer mixture for a minute or two till you get 
heat. Dave VE4PN

On Sun, 11 Dec 1994 Julianbak@aol.com wrote:

> HI,
> My 1966 Series 11A with Solex Carb starts and idles great once warmed-up, but
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> situation.
> Julian, Portland Oregon 

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 01:27:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: It's off the road at last!!

Craig has a really fun day at off-roading...

>         This sunday I finally took my little series 1 four wheelin'.  The 

Oh, yes.. the *first* time off-road.. sorta like your first kiss...
....And then the fun started!!

> first decent mud hole I came to, I got stuck in, have to get used to 
....slurp
> is were disaster struck, my normally good hand break decided it was not 
> going to work, so my vehicle rolled into the tree, noramlly this would 
> not be so bad, but the tree was in the air, and bent the top of my
> snorkle,
....bang
> and take a wrong turn, down this really over grown track, and being a hot 
...sweat
> branches from scratching him! This scrub also broke my mirror!  
...crunch
> lunch, I noticed that one of the windows in the rear quater panel, was 
> falling out!  I think the window seals are little passed their used by
...crash
> a crowded picnic ground, I just got out of sight of the campers when my 
> front prop shaft fell off! talk about timing, so I high tailed it home 
> after that.
...clunk

Obviously, the smile never left your face!!  :)

Aw Gee, Craig.. that sounds like fun... And here we are.. the start of the
bloody winter... snow flying.. temperature below freezing and falling..

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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