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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: list complaints
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 08:37:01 UNDEFINED

.I always wave to Series Land Rovers, but they hardly ever wave back either.

I NEVER wave to Landrovers.
They're driven by (hhhhhk ptttt) FARMERS!

Wouldnt wave to yuppiescum in SloaneWangeWovas or Recoverys either

I have my pride.

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: list complaints
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 08:46:05 UNDEFINED

> >  Sorry, but some of us just really like Series rigs.  We tolerate
> >  RR stuff as we'd expect you to tolerate us.
         [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> You missed the point.  RR & Disco stuff & simple questions are not 
> usually tolerated -- they're attacked.

Behave, people! I dont see any flaming on this list. I see a bit of banter adn 
a couple of folk with ulcers. And a helluva lot of useful information - often  
coming from teh same sources as teh banter.

You want to see flaming? Checkout rec.motorcycles, where it's done by 
professionals. The Landrover list is a much kinder gentler place.

So before you're blood pressure blows your hat off, check whether what you 
are whining about can be interpreted humourously...........If not, c'est la 
vie. (For ignorant colonials, that's Italian - we're cosmopolitan over here.)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 04:51:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:

Mark (a LR True Believer) gets down to the nitty-gritty...

> In the process of rebuilding my SIII ready for the spring. While the
none

YES! This is what it's all about. Pull out the engine yourself. Smear grease
and oil over yourself like war paint. Grease back your hair with Waxoyl! Be
one with your machine.. 

> engine is 
> out I'm replacing the clutch and pressure plate. After removing the old >
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> supposed to be free of oil and grease. anyone got any ideas what to use
> ????

WHAT! Grease and Oil on your flywheel. Wayward grease and oil in a Land
Rover! Un-heard of. Doesn't happen.. Never. We can't have rumors like this
being spread around.. 

Pardon me a second.....  I've just been informed that I may not partake of
the happy sauce for the remainder of the evening...   :(

OK.. since the flywheel is just a big chunk of steel, just degrease it.
Gunk, Kerosene, or what have you. Of course, the real important part is the
face where the clutch disk mates up with. After your done scraping the years
of accumulated grime off, check it out. Is it scored or gouged? Since you've
got it out, why not take it to your local machine shop and see if it needs
to be re-surfaced?  

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 04:51:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: list complaints

John comments...

> I always wave to Series Land Rovers, but they hardly ever wave back
> either.
none

There's a good reason..  We, of the Series persuasion, hardly ever wash our
trucks.. (There *are* a few exceptions... degenerates all). As a result of
this it has become increasingly difficult over the years to determine the
parentage of oncoming traffic. Rather than risk the embaressment caused by
mistaking some mundane Toyota or Ford for the elegant, yet robust Range
Rover, we choose not to wave at all..

Or maybe it's just that we have too many knobs and levers to play with (no
comments from you, Maloney) and don't have a free hand to wave with??

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: Steve Methley <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: tyres, mpg
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 94 9:52:09 GMT

RR tyres:
There seems to be net.interest at the moment, so here's another pearl:
Did you know you can get larger tyres on a 2-door RR than on a 4-door?
(Pause for sound of some US drivers thumbing onwards past BFG 33inch page).

Incidentally whilst on the 2/4 door thing, did you know that much
better mpg is available on the two door?  

There's no disclaimer on these pearls; you can freely cast them amongst
your friends and they'll just suppose you're right;-)

Cheers, 
Steve. 79RR, exV8Lightweight, '70Beetle, 24vCosworth Scorpio, pushbike.

BTW, was it this list where someone asked on the pro's and con's of RR
diffs vs. o/d for Series Landies?  - Get both if you have a V8
transplant, otherwise get the o/d as you won't want to lose 1st low
for off-road work.

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 08:08:41 +0000
Subject: Re: quick question

> Dear LRO Digest
> I'm a new subscriber to Land Rover Owner digest etc.  Is this the 
> appropriate forum to advertise a LR for sale and post a 'wanted' add for 
> a different LR.
> Thanks for your time.

Ryan,

Others (occasionally) post messages of that ilk, so as long as your not 
planning to start a business selling land rovers to us, it should be OK

:-)

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/>      
           Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/>
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I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek.   |Land Rover owners do
Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain.  |  it in the mud.

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:45:17 +0000
Subject: Re: Let's build a glossary

> Fellow Net-Rovers:
> I received the following question from newbie Jason LaBranch
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> >different names for the same thing?  Is there some paper on the net
> >that describes all of this?
I'd like to suggest that we each send in 5 words (plus a 
definition/description?) and Granville compiles the start of the list from 
that :)

------------------- from Granville ------------------------
English English -> American English:

o Bulkhead ->  Firewall. Also refers to other structural cross-body
members separating compartments (as behind the cab area in an 88 = "rear
bulkhead").  

o Gearbox -> transmission.
o Main box is the normal (main) transmission (1-4 + reverse); 
o Transfer box is the transfer case (high/low).
o windcreen -> windshield
o bonnet -> hood
o A hood is the canvas top of soft-tops
o spanner ->  wrench
o paraffin -> kerosene
o petrol -> gasoline
o prise-> pry (Not sure about this one -- prise & pry are slightly different 
actions :)
o carburettor -> carburetor
o aluminium -> aluminum

--------------- From Ian --------------------
Soft-top has a canvas hood; hard-top has a metal upper-body with only one 
row of seats and 3 doors; station-waggon has 2 rows of seats and 5 doors

Green Road Run - An organised drive along a (normally overgrown & disused) 
untarmaced & unclassified road (one that often turns into a stream or a 
ditch :)

Transmission is the drive-train: the collective name for gearbox, transfer 
case, differentials, prop-shafts & axels.

CCT; RTV; Comp. Safari ?

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/>      
           Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/>
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I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek.   |Land Rover owners do
Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain.  |  it in the mud.

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:02:40 +0000
Subject: Re: LR insurance

> Ian,
> My old SIIA has gone to the great big car park in the sky and
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> to post to the LRO mailing list, is it still lro@stratus.com or is
> there a different address now that LRO daily digest exists?
no, it's still lro@stratus.com (or lro@team.net). The digest mode is a 
relativly new system, and used for all new subscribers. If you need to 
change to the per-article basis, email Bill C.
(Pegasus cannot cope with the larger digests, so I had to flip back to the 
per-article system)

> can you recommend an insurance company/broker who knows
> what a LR is and whose rates reflect the fact that it isn't equivalent
> to a Ford XR4i of the same engine capacity?
> position to make it to SLROC events I hope - secure in the
I got insurance group 4 from the AA a couple of years ago (under 300.00 
third party fire and theft, driver & spouce) for a '74 SIII 88

> Thanks - I'll seek you out at a SLROC meeting.
> what a LR is and whose rates reflect the fact that it isn't equivalent
I'm the soaked marshall in the wide-brimmed hat, working from someones 101

BTW -- There is a Comp. Safari 3/12/94 -- phone the hot-line for details.

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/>      
           Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/>
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I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek.   |Land Rover owners do
Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain.  |  it in the mud.

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:57:20 +0000
Subject: Famous rover owners

Here is the current list of famous people with Land Rover vehicles (or 
good connections with them)

Please send and additions/corrections to Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk

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Elizabeth Windsor (et al) - Range Rovers, dicoveries and Defenders 
(numbers?)
          Queen Elizabeth - A Bronze Green 110 Defender (manual)

John Rhys Davies owns four and he says he couldn't be bothered with the 
new Discos or Range Rovers (they're "devoid of panache").  His fleet 
includes:
a IIa 109 with roof-tent in Kenya, an ex-RAF '88 110, a 109 Luten-body
workshop vehicle with Lincoln arc-welder soon to be a 130" and an
indeterminate 109 with advanced frame cancer (a "project vehicle").  The
latter three are at his residence on the Isle of Mann.

Ross Perot - Several  -- Series IIa's and III's

Jane Fonda and hubby Ted Turner also own a pair of the US-spec Defender
110's they keep at their western ranch (i.e., the state of Montana).

Ralph Loren has a couple of NA spec 110's, but painted black.  

Robin Williams - 110 Defender, but used to drive an 88 before Mork 

Kevin Costner - a black 88 (I, II, III, hybrid?)
Sylvester Stallone - 109
Oprah Winfre (sp?) - Defender (90/110?)
Rosanne Barr-Arnold - Range Rover

Sean Connery.  Defender 90 at his estate in Costa Brava, Spain.
                                           Confirmation please?

Anika Rice (UK TV personality) - RR based dune-buggy (UFS 475 Y?). This 
may belong to the TV company though.

Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman - Range Rover LWB
Demi Moore and Bruce Willis - Range Rover LWB
Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid - Range Rover LWB
Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith - Range Rover LWB (Now split up? - who 
has the 'Rover?)
Mel Gibson - Range Rover
Michael Douglas - Range Rover
Jane Fonda - Range Rover
Emilio Estevez - Range Rover
Patrick Swayze - Range Rover
Jack Nicholson - Range Rover
Stefanie Powers - Range Rover
Michael J. Fox - Range Rover
Rod Stewart - Range Rover
Cher - Range Rover
George Michael - Range Rover
Barry Manilow - Range Rover
Michael Jackson - Range Rover
Richard Branson - Range Rover
(British Army Officer) Col. Hewitt - Range Rover

Janet Jackson - Dicovery?  (Gift from agent or someone)
Sting - discovery

?Kath from EastEnders (UK)? - Range Rover <-- actually, it was her 
boyfriends.

Robert Wagner - ?

They Want...

Ralph Lauren -- approached LRNA with the concept of a Ralph Lauren RR
Chris Evert -- "Andy's [Mills] the art lover," says Chris.  "I'd rather 
have a Range Rover than a $40,000 painting."

Historical.....

Paul & Linda McArtney ?

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     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/>      
           Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/>
#======================================================================#
I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek.   |Land Rover owners do
Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain.  |  it in the mud.

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 09:01:49 +0000
Subject: Re: Let's build a glossary

> I've also hear the canvas top on a Landy referred to as a "Tilt".
I always got the impression that the tilt refered to the canvas top for 
the rear load bay in a truck-cab configuration...

> Then, there's the ever popular "boot" (trunk?)
> How about "wing" (Fender).
> One I'm not sure about.. some of my Triumph friends refer to the horn as the
> "hooter".
Old-fassioned term from when the device was a rubber bulb attacked to a 
horn.

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/>      
           Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/>
#======================================================================#
I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek.   |Land Rover owners do
Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain.  |  it in the mud.

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Subject: disc warping / for sale postings / 230+ readers and growing
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 94 07:30:11 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>

Warping disc brake rotors, I reckon this advice would also apply to rovers:  

	One possibility is over or unevenly torqued lug nuts, they should 
	never be put on (fastened/tightened) with an air wrench, but should
	always be finally tightened with with a torque wrench to 
	the manufacturer's specs...  Even if your torque wrench is off a bit,
	but consistant, you'll be better off than taking the random torque
	from an air wrench.  If you do it by hand, w/o out a torque wrench,
	then you'd better hope you're consistant, and don't fade or get
	over ambitious or throw your wieght into it, etc...

For Sale Postings on the list (re: haaland@atm.ox.ac.uk):

	Yes, it is ok to post private 'for sale' or 'wanted' messages on the
	list, a decent description is o.k., but save the service history for
	additional enquiries.  As the posts are archived (available from
	Majordomo@chunnel.uk.stratus.com via mail for the last month), there
	is no need to repeat posts with any frequency.  People will go to
	the trouble of asking for a repeat or finding the original should
	the motor be of interest.

	We do have one subscriber who commercially imports rovers, and they
	periodically make contributions, and they also advise/advertise of
	what they have that is interesting or available.  To date, no one
	has objected, and they have been and have been considerate in
	keeping the details for further enquiries, etc.  With some luck
	they might get some business, and they'll be another Rover owner :-)

	[this paragraph has been added to 'info' for lro-digest, etc.] 

Re: digest -- 
	The trailing '^''M' characters will be removed from this future digests.

Re: digest archives --
	In addition to the file <yymmdd> for the daily digest, there will
	also be <yymmdd>.toc  which will just contain the table of contents
	to allow easier searching.

Re: Majordomo
	Is still happy to service any request for the 'lro-digest' list.

 	I've talked to majordomo about the 'lro' vs the 'lro-digest' thing,
	and he'll still not deal with requests for 'lro' very well, but I
	have left instructions to contact me before doing any 'add lro' 
	operations, so instead of blowing up while attempting to write to 
	an non-existant 'lro' list, I ought to get a mail notification that
	someone is trying to subscribe to it.
		
    Happy Turkey Day for you stateside folks !

    Cheers,
	--bill	caloccia@Team.Net	caloccia@Stratus.Com

      1  3     dl OD  L           "Land Rover's first, becuase
      |--|--+  o  |   |            Land Rovers last."
      2  4  R     N   H           '72 Range Rover ++ '69 S.IIa 88"

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From: RAMAGEM@carleton.edu
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 10:01:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RoverWorks Comments

I've dealt with Roverworks for a number of years , and even worked in 
the shop briefly.  My experiences started off well, but have been going
downhill ever since.
	It's a long story that none of you want to here, but the end
result was that I trailered my 109 to Roverworks expecting to do
put a new frame under it while working there.  I had ordered the new frame 
six months earlier.  Well, the frame wasn't there, and Later I found out that
Bill (owner) hadn't even ordered it. (He had assured me earlier it was
in a container on its way).  I had to go back to school, and had no place to 
store the Rover, so he offered to buy it (new drivertrain and sundries).
Well, one year later, I haven't seen any money for it, and he doesn't
return my phone calls.  So I'm going to go down and pick up what's
left of it \(If anything).
	So, my experience (and it's considerable) tells me that the people
at Roverworks are smooth talking rip-off artists, with little attention
to timeliness or honesty. Their work is good, but not that good, 
and I would never go there to buy parts unless they could show me them and
I could drive away with the same.
	So, Russell, good luck to your friend.

Michael Ramage

1971 IIa 88
1967 IIa 109 SW (Roverworks botch job)

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From: mtalbot@interserv.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 08:33:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Getting parts from england

All, 

I have been getting parts from England for a number of years. I have got 
things like a Bull bar for the Range Rover and all my parts for my two SIII's. 
Despite the shipping, I still save $$$ 

The best way to save $$$ is to make a large order and send it over by either 
ship or fed ex, 5 day. 

I use Craddocsk, Paddocks and also Merseyside Land Rover, all have saved me 
money over Rovers North even with shipping. I also have the luxury of having 
my parents in England, Dad a Lanr Rover nut. I can get things sent to him, and 
he forwards to me via regular mail, also cheaper. 

As I mentioned before, we should all group together and order parts and save 
on the shipping. 

Mark    

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From: mtalbot@interserv.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 08:33:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Waving back

I ALWAYS wave at ALL Land Rovers, most Series don't wave, I have had a few 
Range Rovers wave back. Last year the wife and I took the Range Rover up Mount 
Washington, I we passed two, both waved back. 

I do agree that MOST Range ROver owners don't wave back or even know just what 
they are driving, MOST can't be bothered with the waving stuff. Sad but true. 
I have a neighbour that lives 1/4 mile down the road who just got a DISCO, he 
went to Canada to get it, the reason why ? because the wife wanted one because 
she didn't want a JAP 4x4 like everyone else !!!! I asked them if they waved 
to other Land Rovers etc, they said why would we want to do THAT ! 

Personally, I think they got a DISCO cause we have a RANGE ROVER.... only 
joking.

We in West Swanzey NH now have a Range Rover, 2 Series III's and a DISCO in 
less than 1/4 mile. 

I go off road in my Range Rover, and I wave back.   

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From: dkenner@emr.ca (Dixon Kenner)
Subject: Re: Getting parts from england
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 12:12:05 -0500 (EST)

> As I mentioned before, we should all group together and order parts and save 
> on the shipping. 

	We already do this here in Ottawa.  Srings and rims and such
	weight quite a bit and sending by ship (three - four week
	delivery) is the cheapest way to go.  I have five or six
	people right now I am putting a show boat order for.

	Rgds,

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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 14:35:40 -0500
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Jurgen's Brake Rotors

Jurgen,

Re your question about brake disks warping frequently, there can be more than 
one cause.  The common one that you seem to have ruled out is excessive heat. 
This can be caused by heavy braking over long distances, lot's of extreem stop
and go, and left foot braking (how many times have you seen someone barrel 
past you in the fast lane with their brake lights on?), where ressting one's 
foot on the pedal can heat them up real fast.   If you continue to drive after
really heating them up, all should be OK.  But when you come down a long hill 
or after other heavy braking situations, and come to an extended stop, you run
ito problems.  The rotor at this point is red hot, and you've got a small area
clamped down by your brake pads.  The entire rotor begins to cool except for 
the area clamped by the pads, which is well insulated.  Differing levels of 
cooling/contraction = warped rotors.

The other more likely cause is improper use of an air wrench when replacing 
wheels.  An inexperienced/uncaring operator can really screw up your lug 
tightness.  And even an experienced operator is subject to the variances of 
supply air pressure caused by the compressor cycling on and off and the load 
of other users.  So what I would recommend is that if you ever have to have 
anyone besides yourself replace a wheel, give him an extra Mark or dollar or 
whatever you call those silly things with the Queen Mum on them that Uncle 
Mike uses, and ask him to tighten it by hand.  

Bill 

maloney@wings.attmail.com

via modem from home on a very frustrating mail package.

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Date: 24 Nov 94 19:42:23 EST
From: Keith Steele <75126.1123@compuserve.com>
Subject: Broken swivel ball drain plug

While crawling around underneath the Land Rover on a winterizing project 
I discovered that the last so-called mechanic who changed the oil in the
right front axel swivel ball housing had broken off the drain plug at the 
point that the threads meet the head of the plug. (Very bad for my blood 
pressure).  The thread portion of the plug is still in the housing.  

Anybody have any ideas on how to remove the remaining part of the plug, 
preferably without getting any metal inside the housing?

Keith Steele
'72 Series III 88 since new
75126.1123@compuserve.com

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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 09:26:04 +1000
From: rwalker@dolphin.fen.qut.edu.au (Rodney Walker)
Subject: Series I Heaters

Does anyone know of a rough price for a heater (orig. smiths type pref.)
for a 54-58 series I landrover.

How readily available are they in the US/UK. They don't seem too 
readily available here in Australia.

Rod

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: list complaints
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 94 17:55:43 PST

> John comments...
> > I always wave to Series Land Rovers, but they hardly ever wave back
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
> Rover, we choose not to wave at all..
> Or maybe it's just that we have too many knobs and levers to play with (no
> comments from you, Maloney) and don't have a free hand to wave with??
Ah hell... we all know that is the 15 inches of play in the steering,
one takes his life in his hands when trying to drive a series one
one-handed..

Russ

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Date: 24 Nov 94 21:28:03 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Tod Mills on US National Rally in LRW

...er, could it be that I missed out some messages or a digest? Did anyone
already comment on the report of the National Rally in the Dec. issue of LRW ?
Like which car belongs to whom... and the feature of OVLR on page 111...
Just curious.

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 24 Nov 94 22:56:13 EST
From: "Stephen O'Hearn" <72700.3262@compuserve.com>
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving

Here's a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on the list regardless of what
they drive. I will wave or blink headlights for any Land Rover I see
assumming I see you in time when you're going the other way and I'm
doing 86mph <g>!

Stephen O'Hearn
'94 Defender 90

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Tod Mills on US National Rally in LRW
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 23:28:15 -0700 (MST)

Stefan writes: 

< ...er, could it be that I missed out some messages or a digest? Did anyone
< already comment on the report of the National Rally in the Dec. issue of LRW ?
< Like which car belongs to whom... and the feature of OVLR on page 111...
< Just curious.

Looks like you did miss out (about 2 weeks ago).  That's Dixon's 109
on p.111.

I have bounced my insider's scoop on the national rally photos to Stefan.

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 22:34:40 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Let's build a glossary

I dunno if these are in the Haynes glossary, but here's a few:

Wings           Fenders
Boot            Trunk (I know, Rover's don't have 'em, but you might want
                       to buy parts at a boot sale, so there.)
Sticks          The metal frame that holds up a Hood (soft top), also...
Hoodsticks      see Sticks
Courgetts       Zucchini (Don't ask me!)

I'll add more as I think of them...

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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