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1 "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du22Re: Land Rover 24 Hours of Aspen ski endurance event
2 S|ren Vels Christensen [64Re: Cold Weather help needed
3 S|ren Vels Christensen [28Rhinos & Rovers
4 Russell U Wilson [ruwst+11'72 SIII
5 JFisk1120@aol.com 15Discovery Search
6 dkenner@emr.ca (Dixon Ke22Re: '72 SIII
7 paul@frcs.alt.za 21[not specified]


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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Land Rover 24 Hours of Aspen ski endurance event
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 01:55:50 -0700 (MST)

 
< this a Land Rover sponsered event?  Anyone got any info on it?
< Todd Mills?
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< Benjamin Smith
< SAIC/China Lake NAWC

Sorry, I had not previously heard anything about it.  There is a Land
Rover dealership in Aspen (Pioneer Center), and Tom Collins of Camel
Trophy fame runs a Land Rover "driving academy" there.  One or both
are probably involved in the ski event.  Or, it could be Red Noland,
the Colorado Springs dealer.  He's a ski nut and recently linked his
dealership with the driving academy.

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 11:55:52 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: Cold Weather help needed

On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, Brad Krohn wrote:

> Text item: Text_1
> Need a hand from the 'net in figuring out possible causes:
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> "That would be telling." -The Prisoner              '69 IIA 88" Bug-Eye 
> =======================================================================

Hi Brad.

You seem to have the same problem as me, my brother (88 s3), and most
other people with old carburetted engines.

Before you start to totally dismantel the engine, try to add 1/2-1 litre
of carb alcohol before refuelling. 

When the air is sucked through the wotsisname in english? (nozzle?) the 
pressure is is lower on the other side of the wotsisname. Temperature always
decrease at decompression (and increase at compression). So the air, which 
is already cold (and damp) at this time, gets colder and small ice crystals
are formed in the wotsisname making the microscopic petrol drops less
microscopic. Larger drops and cold air in a cold cylinder doesn't burn well.

When the engine is warm, the exhaust manifold and the radiator are warm.
The inlet manifold sits on the exhaust manifold and the carb sits on the
inlet manifold and is warmed up a bit. Also, -the extremeties of the engine
is more or less warmed up by the engine heat and the hot air from the 
radiator. The hot air is also the air that the engine lives on.

If an eco-freak makes remarks on the vehicle, just tell him/her that not
only is it growing a variety of vegataion in the window channels, it also
recirulates it's waste heat ;-)

Carb alcohol is known to eat the carb because it makes the petrol less 
greasy. It doesn't happen over a week though. Just don't use alc before the
engine gets troublesome. In the spring, quit as early as possible. If your
carb is in good condition now, it will propably last for many years if you 
take some time to experiment with the amount of alc per refuel. And when the
time comes, a rebuild kit is available at a resonable price. The carb can be
redone once.

I don't know much about Lumenition, but i've heard that it's a bit inaccurate
when cold. Perhaps someone else would clarify this?

Note: I'm not using alc myself yet. Perhaps if it gets real cold. My engine
heats up quite fast. Even with the standard fan still in. My brothers 88"
heats up slowly and he even has an electric fan which is off all the time.
He only used it twice this year, off the motorway into town. All Land-Rovers
seems to have it's own personality, that is why i advise you to 
experiment a little.

Good luck and happy snow-plowing.

+----------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Soren Vels                 | 1976  sIII  109"   2.25 petrol |
| velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk     | "Lawrence of Arabia"           |    ((|||))
| Royal Danish Air Force     | Dansk Land-Rover Klub no. 3564 |   ((|||))
| Communications Specialist  | DL-RK: Approx. 1000 members.   |    ((|||))
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 12:22:40 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Rhinos & Rovers

Oi netters.

I just saw a documentaton on South African wildlife reservations.

The park rangers had a shiny new Defender 110. The hard top, doors and
windscreen was removed. Color was olive and it had a rollbar. The major 
project is conserving the rhino's so for safety reasons a gunrack is
fitted where the windscreen used to be. Just reach out, pull the rifle and
it unclips itself.

In one sequence, the ranger and the tv-man parked in a place where rhinos
comes out to be counted and identified. A bull rhino (the two-ton model) 
came over and circled around the vehicle. It was just curious and didn't
charge the rover. Unfortunately T'Anns postulate remains undocumented on 
film. (i think???).

+----------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Soren Vels                 | 1976  sIII  109"   2.25 petrol |
| velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk     | "Lawrence of Arabia"           |    ((|||))
| Royal Danish Air Force     | Dansk Land-Rover Klub no. 3564 |   ((|||))
| Communications Specialist  | DL-RK: Approx. 1000 members.   |    ((|||))
+----------------------------+--------------------------------+__((|||))______
 

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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 10:34:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: '72 SIII

I've found someone selling a '72 SIII with a solid frame with only light 
rust on the outriggers. My question is this, I know it is rough to tell 
with out seeing it but is $3500 a fair price? Way too much or in the 
general range? 
Thanks for any words of wisdom 
Russ

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From: JFisk1120@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 12:09:17 -0500
Subject: Discovery Search

Some friends would like to buy a Discovery....7 passenger... for their
expanding family.  There are none available in our area at this time.

If you know of one, preferably in the Midwest.....please email me as soon as
possible.

Jan Fisk
JFisk1120@aol.com
Springfield, Missouri

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From: dkenner@emr.ca (Dixon Kenner)
Subject: Re: '72 SIII
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 17:09:07 -0500 (EST)

> I've found someone selling a '72 SIII with a solid frame with only light 
> rust on the outriggers. My question is this, I know it is rough to tell 
> with out seeing it but is $3500 a fair price? Way too much or in the 
> general range? 

	Depends exactly where you are.  I bought a 109 ambulance frame
	(for the extra gussetting etc) for a thousand Cdn ($730US)
	a couple of months ago, a gool solid rolling 88 frame (springs
	wheels (15" yuck) etc for $500 last month, and a friend just
	picked up a 109 frame with some surface rust for $500 last week
	(I found it for him).  A frame from the UK will cost you about
	500 pounds plus shipping.  All depends on how soon you want it,
	home much you are willing to wait for a better deal of for one
	to arrive from the UK.

	Rgds,

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Subject: Re: Nigel has a bed to sleep on
From: paul@frcs.alt.za
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 13:30:19 +0200

> Nigel with the intend of making him a bed to sleep on, so to speak.  Papi (my

> built a frame comprised of three pieces of wood, one across the center 3/4 of

I did something _vaguely_ similar for my 109, which has a fibreglass
hardtop.  I cut four pieces of 1/2" ply to fit across the back on the 
ledge left where the hardtop joins the body, and shoved a double 
mattress across the whole lot.  Each piece is full width, but narrow
enough (front to back) to allow easy handling (and manoevering through
the back door).  Works like a treat, and means that my wife (who suffers
from a bad back) can lie in the back and enjoy the view when we go on
long trips.

Very cheap, and quite easy.  The plywood goes on the roofrack when not
in use, and balances across a bunch of ammo boxes to make a large camp
table.

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