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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 04:25:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Defender 90 success

Stephen O'Hearn sez...

> removable hard top for '95. Word from a Denver dealer is that a "limited
> edition" Defender is available. Get this: 100 units, black paint, and
> leather seats! This gave me a good laugh. But the North American spec

Yup... 
Someone at the British Invasion in Stowe, VT had a black Defender for sale.
The sign said limited edition - US only - leather seats. Now the funny part,
the sign also said something like the truck was only three weeks old and had
only 3000 miles on it??.. (maybe I'm wrong) I think the price was $23,500.
Go figure.
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       

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Subject: New RR - Design & Development
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 09:52:15 +0100 (BST)
From: Richard Jones <rich@apricot.co.uk>

Hi All,

Below is the "Cover Story" and "Design & Development" sections from
the New Range Rover Press Pack.  If there is sufficient interest I
will post the rest of the sections.

	Rich

------------------------------< PRESS RELEASE >---------------------------

Land Rover, the specialist four-wheel drive manufacturer, today
(Thursday September 29) announces the launch of an all-new luxury
Range Rover to be sold in all major markets around the world.

The new luxury flagship model not only surpasses the current Range
Rover's legendary off-road capability, but also has greatly improved
on-road ride and handling characteristics to compete with the world's
best luxury cars. 

The original Range Rover, launched 1970, has gained a worldwide
reputation for its classic and elegant style.  It is the only vehicle
in the world to have been exhibited in Le Louvre in Paris as a work of
art. 

In response to customers' wishes, the design team for the new Range
Rover have adopted an evolutionary approach, retaining many of the key
styling features of the classic model.  The commanding driving
position, distinctive bonnet and front end, the large glass areas, and
the split tailgate, have all been retained for the new model.

The new Range Rover is slightly larger than the original with more
headroom, more legroom, a larger rear seat compartment, and 50 percent
more luggage space.  Burr walnut and leather are included in the
interior to give refinement, comfort and luxury. 

The new model is available with three new engines.  Diesel versions
are powered by a derivative of BMW's widely acclaimed 2.5 litre turbo
charged and intercooled six cylinder power unit which has been
specially developed for Range Rover. 

Land Rover's world-renowned V8 has been totally re-designed and
re-built.  It is now available in the new Range Rover in a 4.0 litre
version or in a powerful 4.6 litre unit giving world-class
performance. 

The 4.6 litre unit takes the new Range Rover from 0-60 mph in 9.3
seconds and a top speed of 125 mph.  It produces 225 bhp and 280 lb ft
torque. 

Land Rover engineers have designed a totally new ladder-frame chassis,
new front and rear suspension, and new beam axles to give the new
Range Rover outstanding on-road and off-road performance. 

Automatic versions feature a revolutionary new H-gate system -
developed by Land Rover engineers - to enable the driver to operate
all high range and low range functions with one lever. 

The new Range Rover has a host of features as standard including twin
airbags, side impact beams, electronic air suspension, advanced
anti-lock braking, and a remotely controlled anti-theft system. 

There are three models in the range starting with 4.0 V8 or 2.5 diesel
versions, followed by SE derivatives in petrol or diesel, leading to
the flagship HSE model with the 4.6 V8 engine.

The new Range Rover, the result of a 300 million investment programme,
is aimed at not only traditional loyal customers, but also at people
who buy other luxury models and luxury performance cars.

Design and Development

In the late 1980's Land Rover designers were given a clean sheet of
paper on which to start the design of a brand new Range Rover.  They
were faced with a dilemma - should the new Range Rover be a
revolutionary step forward in design like the old Range Rover, or
should it be an evolutionary design change in keeping with the
vehicle's heritage? 

After a few concepts had been produced it became clear that in order
to develop a new Range Rover the designers would have to take a number
of styling cues from the original classic vehicle.  They were very
conscious that Range Rover customers are an extremely loyal group, and
over the years market research has shown they would be reluctant to
accept major changes in exterior styling. 

There were a number of key styling and design cues which had to be
followed from the original Range Rover to appeal to both existing
customers and new customers from the luxury car and sports car
sectors. 

These were:-

Commanding Driving Position
One of the features regarded as important to customers is the
traditional commanding driving position.  The design of the new
vehicle had to incorporate this sense of security. 

Floating Roof
The roof on the Range Rover appears to be floating because it is not
supported by body colour pillars but by distinctive, black pillars
which help give Range Rover its tough 4 x 4 appearance. 

Glass Area
The deep glass area of the current Range Rover gives the vehicle a low
waist line and therefore exceptionally good visibility for both driver
and rear seat passengers.  The glass area gives passengers a feeling
that they are sitting high up in the vehicle - rather than reclining
into the vehicle - and in particular gives the driver a feeling that
he or she is in a commanding driving position. 

Wrap-over Bonnet
The wrap-over bonnet on the Range Rover and the castle features on the
front edge of the bonnet, developed on the original Range Rover to
give strength to retain the wing mirrors, give an aura of toughness to
the vehicle from the side view.  The castle features also are useful
when manoeuvring because the front corners of the vehicle are clearly
visible. 

E Pillar
The E Pillar on Range Rover is very distinctive and its angle
contributes to the unique appearance of the vehicle.  It was clear to
the designers that they would have to retain the distinctiveness of
the E Pillar, particularly from the side elevation, to prevent the new
model looking like an estate car. 

Two Piece Tailgate
It was essential to retain the two piece tailgate which customers feel
is an essential part of Range Rover's convenience and character.  They
use it both as a viewing platform and for picnics. 

Straight Feature Lines
The straight feature lines which run from the bonnet along the front
and rear doors to the tailgate give balance and a sense of proportion
to the existing Range Rover.  Any attempt to introduce stepped feature
lines, or wedge lines, would detract from the classic Range Rover
appearance and make the new Range Rover look too much like a
conventional car. 

Close Wheel Cuts
Some four wheel drive vehicles have wide apertures around the wheels
coupled with large wheel arches.  Range Rover, even with its excellent
axle articulation, has very close wheel cuts giving the vehicle status
and elegance. 

EXTERIOR STYLING
At the Land Rover Design Studio in Solihull, the overall approach was
to create a new Range Rover which would be instantly recognised as a
Range Rover but would also be more modern looking.  Some of the edges
would be rounder to soften the square appearance of the classic model.
It was also vital to retain the elegance of the vehicle and at the
same time develop an exterior styling that would retain its appeal
into the next century. 

The front of the new Range Rover follows the traditional Range Rover
with a black grille widening out to headlamps with directional
indicators on the outside.  The spoiler houses the auxiliary lamps. 

On the new Range Rover the traditional 7" round headlights appeared
too small.  It was decided to select rectangular lights with
twin-pocket round reflectors copying Range Rover's round lamps and
strengthening the appearance of the vehicle.  The introduction of new
unique chunky wiper arms on the square headlights added to the
strength of the appearance of the new Range Rover as well as being
practical. 

The designers decided that a steeply raked front windscreen would have
been out of character with the traditional Range Rover.  The new Range
Rover has a 54 degree rake which maintains the commanding driving
position and improves aerodynamic performance. 

The aerodynamics are further enhanced by an increased tumblehome which
also gives the vehicle a more modern exterior shape.  Its drag
co-efficient (Cd) has been measured at 0.38 and is believed to be the
best figure of any four-wheel drive off-road vehicle. 

INTERIOR STYLING
The design intent of the new Range Rover's interior was that it should
be a viable alternative to a luxury car.  It was also important to
retain the benefits of the existing Range Rover interior which
primarily concern visibility from inside the vehicle and the height of
the seats and seat positions. 

The fascia has been designed in ash grey to complement all trim levels
and to combine luxury car cues with a 4 x 4 toughness and
practicality. 

It had always been the intention to carry over the use of wood and
leather in the interior of the Range Rover and this has been
introduced extensively in top-of-the-range derivatives.   

Another aim was to ensure that all the instrumentation was
ergonomically practical.  The switchgear was divided into primary and
secondary categories with all the primary switchgear within easy reach
of the driver, and secondary switchgear positioned slightly further
away. 

The layout of the switchgear for the electric windows was positioned
in the centre console area by the handbrake to carry on the tradition
from the original Range Rover. 

A four-spoke steering wheel incorporating cruise control and ICE
controls on some models, has been designed to include the driver's
airbag, and the rim section has been designed for comfortable use.
For example, it is easier for the driver to rest his thumbs on the
outside of the rim for comfortable off-road driving. 

The front seats have further improved the traditional Range Rover
armchair comfort, and the extra width of the vehicle means that there
is more shoulder room for driver and front passenger. 

The extra length of the vehicle compared to the classic Range Rover,
provides more leg room for rear seat passengers giving luxury and
comfort to the businessman who wants to be chauffeured.  The rear seat
is no longer over the wheel arch so seating three passengers in the
rear is much more comfortable. 

Luggage space is also improved, not only because of the extra length
and width of the new Range Rover, but also because the spare wheel has
been removed from the luggage area into a position under the load
floor. 

Lower seat belt mounts are attached to the rear seat providing a clean
floor area. 

DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING
Range Rover's off-road capability and ability to operate in extreme
climatic conditions is legendary.  The new Range Rover, equipped with
both V8 4.0 and 4.6 petrol, and 2.5 diesel engines was put through
some of the most punishing test procedures in the world to prove its
toughness and durability. 

Petrol Range Rovers are designed to operate in temperatures up to 52
degrees Centigrade and down to minus 30 degrees Centigrade - standards
far more stringent than those for conventional cars. 

Cold Environmental Testing (CET)
The main purpose is to ensure that all components operate in the most
severe winter conditions.  In Alaska, for example, Range Rovers were
left overnight with their bonnets open in conditions of minus 40
degrees Centigrade to reduce coolant and oil temperatures.  At dawn
Land Rover engineers then plugged in their recording equipment and
carried out cold start tests followed by extreme acceleration and
deceleration tests. 

Engines on CET tests were run for 20,000 miles in sub-zero
temperatures to ensure the Range Rovers can operate continuously in
extreme winter conditions.  Anti-lock brakes and electronic traction
control were tested on frozen lakes in Sweden. 

Hot Environmental Testing (HET)
Range Rovers were driven at maximum speed in temperatures over 40
degrees Centigrade in the hot Arizona desert and in the Middle East to
ensure they could withstand the world's hottest conditions.  The
vehicle's components and trim were also thoroughly tested.  (For
example, the vehicles were subjected to hot desert sunlight to ensure
the trim was not affected by UV light and heat). 

Altitude Testing
New Range Rovers were driven hour after hour in the Colorado mountains
at heights up to 14,000 feet on the world's highest roads.  The Range
Rovers were tested pulling large one tonne trailers. 

Ingress Testing
Some of the world's dustiest roads were used to test for ingress.  For
mile after mile new Range Rovers closely followed other vehicles with
equipment designed to throw up a continuous cloud of dust. 

Off-road Testing
Some of the most extreme off-road driving conditions exist in the
5,000 acres of the Eastnor Castle estates in Herefordshire, England.
Driving on rough, steep tracks results in mud plastering the
under-bonnet area of the vehicle with the result that the mud sets
like concrete around the engine. 

New Range Rovers have been driven for thousands of hours around the
Eastnor estates to check the durability of the engines in extreme
conditions and in particular the operation of pulleys, belts and
electrics. 

The tests at Eastnor also involved wading tests to ensure that the new
Range Rover can be driven in water at depths of 20 inches with the new
BMW engine or the new V8 engines. 

Other off-road testing included driving in sand in the Middle East and
driving on dirt roads and rocky river beds in North America. 

Tilt Test
Both V8 engines and the BMW diesel engine have been subjected to Land
Rover's unique off-road tilt test.  No other manufacturer in the world
uses such an extreme test. 

The objective of the test is to ensure that engines can operate in the
most extreme off-road conditions and that oil supply and pressure
operates correctly at extreme angles. 

Engines are tested at varying angles of up to 45 degrees nose up and
nose down, with a tilt of up to 35 degrees either side. 

The engines undergo tests for 25 hours at each of the four extremes at
maximum power and maximum torque. 

Durability Test
Land Rover operates a 900 hour durability test where engines are run
on test beds at maximum power and torque. 

The unique test specification cycle involves 25 minutes at maximum
power, followed by 5 minutes at idle speed, 25 minutes at maximum
torque, and 5 minutes at idle.  It is then repeated. 

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 10:08:48 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

WRT the thread on Defender 90 sales...there is a simple reason why they're
somewhat slow.  Can you say profit margin?  I knew you could.  Good ol'
Uncle Sam takes a hefty 25% tariff bite out of the Defenders backside, so
LRNA makes little to no money on unit sales.  If they raise prices, then
the price point is gone and people buy something else, so methinks that
their hearts (read: wallets) aren't in Defender sales.  The scuttlebutt at
LRNA is that they would like to pull the Defender, especially in light of
all the problems with the ill-designed rag top.  The Defender was mainly a
prelude to the Discovery, anyway.  By comparison, the Disco is *flying* out
the doors...and with a healthy profit on each unit.

As a side note, Chris "The Badger" Laws at Badger Coachworks has landed a
contract to do fix-it, remedial work on the 90s' tops.  At present, he is
working on a proper replacement that may be offered country-wide as a retrofit.

Okay, for you over-the-road gourmands out there...here is a taste-tested
(three times) recepie for manifold cooking.  Take a 2# (or two smaller)
pork tenderloins.  Rub w/ salt & pepper.  Add sprigs of fresh sage and
several dashes of liquid smoke seasoning.  Triple wrap in AL foil.  Cook on
manifold for 3 to 3.5 hours.  The cylindrical shape of the tenderloins is
ideally suited for the 2.25...no need to wire it on, the carb keeps it in
place. Bon apetit.

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 09:02:31 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: 4-cylinder cookery

In message <199409290127.AA13910@crl7.crl.com> Roger Sinasohn writes:

>  I'm thinking of trying brownies on the way out to Scotty's next time I go.  
> (About 45 minutes, should be just about right.)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
> San Francisco, California                               

Brownies?  Did I hear Brownies at Scottys?  Try Saturday after this coming.  I 
sould be droping by to visit my Land Rover and give Jim some more $$$.  

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Subject: root window with a view...
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 11:03:56 -0500 (CDT)

I am not a big web browser, but I was motivated by
Greg Hiner's and Steve Margolis' notes to check `em
out:

  http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/
  http://whitman.gar.utexas.edu/roverweb/roverweb.html

and was quite impressed.  This could be the start of
something big.  I commend Greg and Lloyd for their
efforts.

Of course, couldn't stop there:

-  With mosaic, "open url" to one of above addresses
-  select picture via mouse button -- brings up "xv" viewer
   in picture, right mouse button brings up options box.
   o  click on "maxpect" to get largest size, true aspect.
   o  click on "save" and pick "x11 bitmap"  give it a
      name like "7s1.xdm"
-  on my workstation, anyway "xsetroot -bitmap 7s1.xdm"
   gives a nice repeated root window of the 7 series 1
   landrovers.

Your mileage may vary.

Of course, must experiment some more -- the black 
defender 90 also makes a good root window.

Now, I must find someone with a color scanner so I can
nominate some more photos for the LR-web.

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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
 
         "...you are what you drive..."
 
- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU, aka Experimental)  - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)                   - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                               - xx
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 10:10:05 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re: Defender 90 success

Also, perhaps the sales will pick up a bit when they introduce a 4 door hardtop
version, not subject to the 25% import duty. At least that's what I'm
waiting for! Don't know if I'd really go for one but would be sorely tempted.

John Brabyn
Mill Valley Ca
89RR

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 10:12:08 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re: Defender 90 success

I have seen more 90s than Discos at the dealers; RAB motors seems to have 
plenty of 90s but no Discoverys.

John

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 10:13:36 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  Camel Trophy gear?

Also, does this book mention Range Rovers?

John
89RR

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 10:23:33 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  Tail of the panhard bushings.

I can identify with your bushings struggle Russ -- I had the same trouble with mine
mine. They really do take more than a vice or a hammer to get them in. I 
actually broke down and bought a hydraulic press (on sale for $100 at Post
Tool) which did the job perfectly. I did find the new bolts need to be tightened
to more than the manual specifies to hold them still under off road conditions
though.

Congratulations on your ingenuity!

John Brabyn
89RR

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 10:31:14 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  New RR - Design & Development

YES YES YES -- Definitely interested in seeing more!

Many thanks for giving us all this

John Brabyn
Mill Valley, California
89RR

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 10:54:34 -0700
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: First Drive in a Land-Rover

My First Drive in a Land-Rover:

It would be another ten or twelve years or so before I owned my first 
Land-Rover and part of the reason is that my first experience with one was 
rather inauspicious.  

Well, of course, I was aware of Land-Rovers from a young age.  I had seen 
them in movies of Africa and certainly thought that they were neat.  But my 
first personal experience came in 1965, at the still-tender age of 20.  I 
grew up mostly in the L.A. area and had limited off-roading experience 
(mostly in the army, where I actually went to off-road driving school).  I 
had recently moved away from home when my parents bought a 320-acre property 
in southwestern Humboldt County, in North California.  We, of course did not 
own a 4x4 at that time (lived in Torrance=suburb of L.A.).  To get to the 
property, at least until the road could be majorly improved, it was 
necessary to have four-wheel drive.  The slick character who sold them the 
property, the United Farm agent in Garberville, owned a very decrepit Series 
I (an 86" one, I think). 

He loaned us this rig to visit the property the first time I went there.  My 
sister and I went out to see what the property looked like.  Well, the Rover 
leaned very badly to the right.  I asked the owner why.  He said they all 
did that.  The only extra feature it had was a CB radio, reassuring 
considering the apparent condition of the vehicle!  The owner had a suped-up 
base station and assured us that we could stay in touch.

By the time we got out to the property (20 miles northwest of 
Garberville--no one who went there now could imagine what the roads were 
like then, right after the famous '64 flood), it was getting pretty dark.  I 
turned on the headlamps.  Gulp!  What headlamps?  They didn't work.  Not 
even the sidelamps could be made to work.  Fortunately, I was once a Boy 
Scout and did have a flashlight.  This wouldn't have been too bad but for 
the condition of the private "road" into the property.  We had to go through 
a large neighboring ranch to get to our property.  

Once we got to the back side of that ranch, the road went straight to hell.  
No maintenance for years.  A good-sized creek had to be forded (no problem) 
and then a long series of washed-out wooden culverts had to be crossed. My 
sister had to walk with the flashlight ahead of me while I drove the ailing 
Rover along.  We had to stop and pile limbs and brush in the washouts at 
regular intervals (we had no shovel, as I recall).  

We did eventually get to the cabin (every window shot out) about midnight.  
We camped uneasily with the mice and ground squirrels and whoknowswhatelse 
in the cabin with us.  The property was quite beautiful in the light of the 
next morning and the drive out was much easier with daylight and our 
already-repaired (sort of) road.

Unfortunately, this experience jaundiced my young impressionable mind and my 
folks bought a Scout (ugh!).  I eventually discovered that not all 
Land-Rovers should be judged by that one.  It was many years before I could 
get my own 4-wheel-drive and when I did, it was a Land-Rover (about 1977, I 
think).  I have so far had a total of 14 of 'em.
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[ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) L-Rs: 4-88" 1-80" + Austin Champ 4x4]
[ e-mail to: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net              Phone: (707) 485-7220 ]
[ Net-Rovers leave a trail of mud & oil on the information superhighway!  ]
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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Diesel Landrovers
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 19:19:49 UNDEFINED

/I agree with Paul.My 1970 2.25 88" shows all the aforementioned
/characteristics,with the exception of startling fuel economy(How
/do you do it Paul?).I reckon on about 20-23mpg.

My 90 gets 29 in winter adn 33 in summmer. Recently it has had no short trip 
and has returned 35mpg on several successive tankfuls.

/already been noted.A valve stuck open is immediately fatal,where on
/the petrol it isnt,necessarily.I speak from experience,there:-((

Also on teh 2.25s, teh injection chambers can fall into teh cylinders, making 
a helluva mess - con rods EVERYWHERE.......

/The advantages are,lots of low down "grunt",long life(given Paul's simple

This was proved nicely yesterday evening.

I was sitting up near Llyn Blaenmelyndwr, watching Startrek, when there was 
this SCREEEEEAAAQAAUUUNNNNCH! sound. 

Looked in teh miirors adn some dickhead had managed to go off teh straight 
road at high speed adn was now on his doors in teh ditch :)

Must be a real star. God knows how he managed it. His wife looked really 
pissed off, adn the baby just looked bemused.

After I had massaged away teh pain in my side from laughing, I was impressed 
how the lorry didnt even notice teh weight of dragging the car out of its 
hole..

Laughing so much I forgot to charge him any money :(

/precautions),mechanical cruise control,otherwise known as a hand throttle,

These are an option on teh 90s. An option I didnt get :(

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: TDi problems
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 19:33:55 UNDEFINED

/The 200 and 300 TDi's have a potentially severe problem with their 
/air intakes. On both types of engines, forund in the Defender and 
/Discovery range, the air is taken inside the front guard/fender. This 
/leads to a rapid deterioration of the air filter.

Is this true!!!???

It may do a lot more than that!!!!!!

When Tonka^H^H^H^Hoyota Hilux (4runner in teh US?) pickups first came out, 
4x4 did a comparative test of their diesel vs a few others. One of teh things 
they did was to drive em thru a stream - like you tend to want to do with 
4wds....

SlurrrpppBAAAAAANG!!!!!

The air intake was under the front wheel arch.

Water doesnt compress too well.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 14:54:01 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Rocker Covers

Just doing my 90,000 mile servicing, I noticed a slight oil leak from one
of the rocker covers. I found the 4 screws that hold each cover on were all
less than finger tight -- I guess gravity was holding the covers on! I don't
know if it's my imagination, but the engine seems to sound better with them 
tightened up!! I guess those off-road jaunts can loosen anything.

John Brabyn
89RR

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 14:59:16 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Steering Box Leaks

There was a thread the other day on RR and Discovery Power Steering Boxes.
Mine is starting to leak more annoyingly than before. I obtained a set
of oil seals for it but puilling the box apart to put them in seems a bit
intimidating. I have a couple of questions, in case anyone here knows:

1. Is a catastrophic failure likely/possible or will the leak just gradually get
worse? (If it failed, I am sure it would choose a lonely trail 50 miles from help
).

2. Can you put the seals on the input and output shafts without dismantling
the box? If so, would it help or is more drastic action needed?

Many thanks

John

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Rocker Covers
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 18:46:43 PDT

John,
I think that loose screws are a factory option on the Range Rover.
I retorqed almost every screw I could see at about 30K. It was
the loose hose clamps that that got me started, then the rocker covers,
the oil pan ..... About the only bolts which were not loose were the
ones that had an electrical wire as a lock washer.

Russ
P.S. 
I am looking for an hydrlic press

> Just doing my 90,000 mile servicing, I noticed a slight oil leak from one
> of the rocker covers. I found the 4 screws that hold each cover on were all
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> John Brabyn
> 89RR

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:32:30 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Weber 2-barrel Carb.

>Dear LRO's,
>    I recently installed the Weber 3236/Pierce manifold/K&N air filter 
>setup on my 1968 2.25L SWB L/R
none

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>Thanks,
>John R. Benham - Editor
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>  The `BWANA' Mobile           *---    (O)    (O)        
>509.747.0692 (H); 509.353.2700 (W); E-Mail: benham@wfoclan.usbm.gov

This is the Weber 2-barrel carb that everyone seems to get 16+mpg with?  Is 
there an affordable source for these?  (As opposed to $500 from BP?)  Thanks 
in advance...

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