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1 Steven M Denis [denis@o38Re: sleeze rovers
2 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu28Re: sleeze rovers
3 CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR 30Mid-Atlantic Rally
4 Steven M Denis [denis@o32Re: sleeze rovers
5 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak32The Green Rover status report
6 Randy Parker [75300.265442Range Rovers and Virgin
7 DEBROWN@SRP.GOV 48Discovery - changed flat tire.
8 "Steven Swiger (LIS)" [s9Re: T-Shirts
9 brabyn@skivs.ski.org (Jo23Re: Brush Bars and Light Protectors
10 brabyn@skivs.ski.org (Jo8Re: Brush Bars and Light Protectors


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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 08:36:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: sleeze rovers

   
> The Gonads Must be Crazy?  
> John Holmes in Kenya?  
> Thelma & Louise & Peter North in Zimabwe?  
> Steve Denis: An Authorized Biography?    <---- Ummmmm ,Bill?.......      

 
> Bill :-D

It is my unfortunate duty to inform all those on the net of Bill 
Maloney's *approching* demise.... <grin>
seems a fella can't even leave the room w/o some chap stabbing him in the 
back.....Those folks going to the meet in Stowe should find Bill 
early..to say "good bye" ...He'll be easy to find.....Just look for the 
guy with a 109 station wagon.....*PARKED ON HIS BODY*

:-)

and just so this isn't as total waste of bandwidth...
I put a oil filter adapter from a 2.5 petrol 90 on the old 2.25 ....all 
is well except...the fittings for the oil pressure sender/gauge is a 
different thread ...the original sender on the adapter is broken....can't 
use the old gauge fitting....the question is.....did any later vehicles 
use a mechanical gauge like the old combination set up on the 2a,and if 
so what do I ask for when ordering this from the UK?
right now the only oil pressure indication I have is the size of the 
puddle underneath :-0

steve......

"NICE KNIFE,MISTER!"..."UH,Yeah kid...um,will you go get Maloney for me?"

It's "NOTAJEEP"........

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: sleeze rovers
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 14:15:36 BST

Steve,
Question.Is the oil pressure gauge on your 2A original
equipment,or aftermarket?No 2A (or 3 come down to it)
I've seen over here has a gauge fitted as standard,just
the warning light that warns you your big ends have gone
already and your mains are out to lunch.But...many years
ago,before you were born:-) you could buy these tee piece
adaptors so you could run a gauge *and* the lamp.If I
remember rightly,I wished I hadnt......
I ask because a)It never ceases to surprise what they put
on export stuff to pander to you lot,and we hed to put up
with what we were given b_
b)Could be difficult to find the part over here,t'aint in
*my* manual
c)The whole thing sounds like a bloody good idea and why
didnt I think of that?

Is it to be a private murder that you've just announced
or is a ritual one,and if so,will it be on the telly?
Are you selling tee shirts for the event?
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:34:36 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Rally

Everything is coming together for the rally...and for those who came in
late, it's the Columbus Day weekend, October 8-10 in central Virginia.
E-mail me directly if you want further directions/info, as I'm in digest
mode right now.

Got a nifty item that's going on the silent auction table at the
event...the 8,000# model of the "Pull-Pal" (over $200) that has been
donated to us.   For those who haven't seen this wondrous invention, its
for all those times that a tree or other secure point is beyond the reach
of your winch cable.  (Trees have a nasty habit of growing in the wrong
place!)  The concept is similar to the Scottish-made "Bruce" anchor if you
do any sailing, except it comes apart and folds flat.

The Pull-Pal people also have a nifty attachment for the campers out
there...a 12 v. pump and heat-exchanger so your Rover can power/heat a
shower!  Water source can be a stream, bucket, lake or river.  A clever
device.  What will they think of next?!?

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 10:08:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: sleeze rovers

The combination gauge with the oil pressure and water temp. *was* an 
option...but I've yet to see a 2a w/o one.....
the adapter is a a hollow bolt thingy with holes in the side that line up 
with the "banjo" fitting for the gauge line,and has the end threaded to 
take the original switch for the lamp...(that light should have a $ sign 
on it 'cause when it comes on,thats what it really means. :-o)
In my case the threads on everything are different...I was thinking that 
the militay units with the oil coolers and such *might* have a mechanical 
gauge....but the more I thought about it i realized that people who can't 
avoid the draft proably can't read a gauge anyway... :-)

and for the record....I never,ever did *ANYTHING* in,on ,under,around a 
land rover.....Bill,however....... :-}
I hope I've not started a new thread, 'cause I know "Mum" will get upset 
w/ me.....can't have that ,nope,just can't have it.....(really?,in an 
88?,*where?*...*how?*...oh,never mind...)

steve...
ps I'm not on the net...But, some "helpful"people post me when they think 
I should know.....

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 09:59:24 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: The Green Rover status report

Well, I just got the news from Scotty about my Transmission.  The lay shaft made
a clean break and my gears were not damaged (I like to think it was because I 
did not try to use 1->3rd after I became aware of the problem).  he said you can
see a bubble in the metal at the break.  All it will take is a new lay shaft & 
its bearings to be on the road again.

Brad and Scotty are going to drop the engine's oil pan together to try to find 
my engine noise.  My worst fear is that a local Land Rover owner may have 
deliberatly sabatoged the engine by pouring some dirt down the oil filler pipe 
as I was doing the final assembly of the engine that Scotty built for me.  He 
was trying to force me to give him the sides of my hard top (which is why it is 
currently locked to the body) while the engine rebuild was in its final stages. 
There were multiple times I know he was at my house messing around with my car 
while I was at work (Luckally I live in a place where neighbors notice strangers
driving by) and he was not good at leaving things as he found them.

I have been finding sand like grit in my oil filter housing during oil changes. 
The engine, while having good oil pressure, has sounded noisy since it was first
started up.  It continued to be noisy after the exhaust system was attached.

I hope it isn't so  I hope it isn't so  I hope it isn't so  I hope it isn't so

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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Date: 16 Sep 94 12:57:27 EDT
From: Randy Parker <75300.2654@compuserve.com>
Subject: Range Rovers and Virgin

Bet that subject line got your attention!   See news clipping below.

In case anyone missed it, Branson's life was preserved by his RR, and quite
appropriately he has decided that what's good enough for him, is good enough for
his customers.   Fly Virgin!

The below courtesy PRNEWSWIRE.

-- Randy Parker,   rparker@world.std.com, 75300.2654@compuserve.com

 LANHAM, Md., Sept. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- The next time you fly to London, you could
find yourself being whisked from the airport to your hotel or country estate in
a Range Rover, Britain's finest four-wheel drive vehicle. 
   Virgin Atlantic Airlines has announced that it will purchase 640 Range Rovers
over the next two years to replace the company's current limousine fleet.  The
luxurious sport utility vehicles, world renowned for their superior on- and
off-road handling, will be used in the airline's door-to-door transfer service,
available to all Upper (or Business) Class passengers flying into or out of
London's Heathrow and Gatwick airports.  The contract is valued at nearly $40
million. 
   "Over the last two years our business market sales have been increasing
steadily.  The Virgin Atlantic agreement underlines our commitment and success
in this area," said John Towers, Chief Executive of Land Rover's parent company,
Rover Group.  "Virgin's Range Rover chauffeur service is unique within the
aviation industry.  To ensure the best possible service Land Rover will train
every driver in order that they are aware of the vehicle's full potential both
on and off the road," he added. 
   Virgin Atlantic Chairman Richard Branson, a Range Rover owner himself, chose
Range Rovers for the company fleet as a result of his first-hand experience with
the vehicle's safety, quality, durability and comfort.  "We were the first
airline to offer limo transfers to business passengers, so it is only right that
we should be the first to offer luxury Range Rovers for this purpose." 
   -0-                  9/9/94 /CONTACT:  Bill Baker or Jeff Curry of Land
Rover, 301-731-9041/ 
  CO:  Land Rover North America, Inc.; Virgin Atlantic Airlines ST:  Maryland
IN:  AUT AIR SU: 
    Copyright 1994 

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 13:51:07 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Discovery - changed flat tire.

FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist
       AM/FM - PAB204 X-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Discovery - changed flat tire.
I was on my way to the local Land Rover dealer to have them appraise my
car as a possible trade in on a Discovery on order, when I see a
Discovery drive by in the direction that I'm waiting to turn to. I say to
myself "WOW! I hope I can catch up to it"! Well, I got my wish, because
just 1/2 mile down the road I see that it pulled over, and a woman was
exiting the vehicle. Naturally, I pull over to offer help (with plans to
talk about the Discovery). I didn't even notice the flat tire that the
woman had, but then offered to help and change the tire for her after
she pointed it out. We talked the whole time I changed the tire, and
then some, totaling around 20-25 minutes. The whole time, she never even
turned the vehicle off! Anyway, she LOVED the vehicle, and only had one
complaint about it, that the drivers door mirror keeps falling. She said
something about a ball joint that holds it on doesn't hold it well
enough. Also, that it takes forever to get parts, and that the vehicle
is very hot. (We live in Phoenix Arizona, 120+ degrees in summer (45
Celsius).) I noticed that she had the dual air conditioner, and asked if
she ever uses the rear air. She said "no" that it'd probably use too
much fuel. (I don't think so, since the same compressor pumps throughout
the whole system, but I couldn't convince her of that.) Then after I
removed the tire and looked for the puncture or tire damage, she noticed
the tire was no longer "flat" and asked where the flat spot was. I
managed to refrain myself from laughing out loud while I explained about
the weight of the vehicle not present on the removed tire. (No, she
wasn't blonde! ;-) )

I thought you might enjoy the ignorance (oh, poor choice of words, how
about "innocence") of her and the "flat" tire, as well as empathize with
my summarization: What a SHAME that such a great vehicle will probably
never see anything less than a paved road! Makes me want to cry!

BTW, the vehicle had leather, automatic, dual sunroofs, dual air, jump
seats, CD changer, rino bars, tinted windows, and tail light protectors.

Have fun!

   #=====#              "Never doubt that a small group of individuals
   |___|__\___           can change the world... indeed, it's the only
   |   |   |  |          thing that ever has."
"  "`O'""""`O'"                                          -Margret Mead

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 17:58:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: T-Shirts

Please write me in for an XL.  Email me with the address where I need to 
send the check, and I also need to know the price (including shipping)

thanx, STeve

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 15:57:11 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  Brush Bars and Light Protectors

Good to hear your opinions on this from practical experience. I too think
they can look cool, and am genuinely curious about whether they are useful.
Last week I lost a rear bumper end cap on a trail near Mono Lake; however
I suppose none of the available attachments would have prevented that. With
brush and bushes, I find most of the damage is scratches along the side of the
vehicle; I am not sure how brush bars help with this unless they can smash 
the brush and render it harmless before it gets alongside! I can see that
side bars could protect the rocker panel and trim, but at the expense of ground
clearance.

I'm open to opinion

Cheers

John Brabyn
Mill Valley
California
89 RR

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 15:59:44 PDT
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re: Brush Bars and Light Protectors

Finally a use for them! I thoroughly approve

John

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