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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 00:19:46 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal: A new LR club

How about "TechnoRovers" as a name for the list?

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 03:29:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: ADVICE

Ben's got 4-wheel drive!!

> pull down a bar and turn it before you can lock them in. There are two
bars 
> per wheel. I have noticed the past few days there is a little oil dripping
> from the hub of my front wheel. Does this mean I need a new seal or do we
live> 
> with this problem?

Gee.. I've got the same type of hubs on one of my IIA's but to tell you the
truth, I don't know what type they are either. The truck is on my mother's
farm, about 25 miles away. I'll take a look the next time I'm out that way.
Leaking oil.. from the outside? or inside the brake drum? If it's leaking
from inside the drum, I.E., behind the hub, then a new seal is in order.
Probably a new distance piece (the sleeve that the seal rides on) too. If
it's on the outside of the wheel, then it's probably a leak between the
free-wheel hub mechanism and the hub. There's a very thin gasket there.
Unless the free-wheel hub itself is leaking in which case there are probably
o-ring seals or some such nonsense inside.
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 11:35:07 UNDEFINED

Be seeing you all.

I am unsubscribing since I dont have the time to plough through the digest, 
along with all the extra hassle of replying to articles.

Pity. I've had some good info in the past.

Cheers to all

Andy

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 94 06:44:08 EDT
Subject: Subject: Names List Final

For the last time, the voting rules: Voting will start Mon, Sept 5 @ 6:30
am,when I will post a final edition of the list, and will end Mon, Sept. 12
@6:30 am, one week from the posting of the final list. I will post
finalresults no later than Wed, Sept. 14
e-mail me at   spenny@aol.com     put BALLOT in the Subject header

Here is the list of names as of 2:00 am EST 9/3/94
PLEASE NOTE: that the last option is no name for the club, just continuing to
use the internet mail address

1.)   Land Rover Owners Club
2.)   Rover nets
3.)   Low Rangers of the Information Superhighway
4.)   L.R.O.I Land-rovers on the internet (info hiway)
5.)   RoversNet
6.)   IL-RIC - International Land-Rover Internet Connection
7.)   ILRN - International Land-Rover Network
8.)   Rovers in the Ether
9.)   Roving through the Ether...
10.)   Land-Rovers, Internet & Beer, a virtual community.
11.)   low-box net surfers
12.)   Ledgendary Land Rovers International
13.)   Rover 4X4s of the electronic highway
14.)   Raving Rovers!
15.)   The Net Rovers
16.)   Rover Rangers of the Infobahn
17.)   LROC of the Internet
18.)   The Wired Rovers
19.)   Space Rovers
20.)   Cyberspace LAN'd-Rovers
21.)   LROC of the Internet
22.)   CyberLand Rovers
23 )   Land-rover Users Group    (LUG)
24 )   Land-Rover Owners Virtual Register (L-ROVR) 
25 )   Land-Rover Owners Virtual, Internet Group   (L-ROVING)
26 )   Syberspace Land Rover Owners Club
27 )   Society for Landies United Together {Maloney Baloney  ; )  }
28 )   LUGNUTs (Landrover Users Group Network UniTed) or 
29 )   SCREWs (Society of Cybernet Rover EnthusiastS)?
30 )   Car List Rejects
31 )   NO NAME - Keep LRO@Team.Net

Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                                Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA
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1969 IIA SWB Bugeye - The Wayback Machine

Land Rovers on the Information Superhighway!
What will they think of next!

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From: llevitt@idcresearch.com
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 94 07:15:25 EST
Subject: Re[2]: crumple zones

Oops, I forgot to discuss inertia. But as a poorly trained 
physicist (and a well trained marketer) I learned to vary only 
one input -- you know, a frictionless, colorless, airless, 
gravityless, costless, Lucasless world...

Given inertia or momentum, would you rather your car crumple 
around you allowing a slow deceleration or *it* decelerating 
suddenly while you continue *your* forward movement? The 
weight/momentum of your car is a separate issue...Forget the guy 
in the Fiesta, he's toast either way! Too bad for him...

Rolling,

Lee Levitt
llevitt@idcresearch.com

workroom (noun): A place to do stuff your SO won't let you do in 
the kitchen. A place to store stuff you'll need RSN.

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 09:03:11 -0400
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Craftsman Tool Club

For our North American netters, Craftsman (Sears Roebuck & Co.) has a free 
"club" you can join for discounts and coupons on Craftsman tools.  Call 
1-800-682-8691.  It's an automated line and they'll ask for your name, 
address, and phone.  The friend that turned me on to it said the discounts are 
pretty good.

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

Wayne, NJ USA

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Date:     Thu, 8 Sep 94 9:57:14 EDT
From: Fred Dushin <fadushin@top.cis.syr.edu>
Subject:  Re:  lromail volume

For general consumption:

using the standard mail utility, you can invoke vi from
within the mailer by typying ~v on a fresh line.  That
should run vi with what you have edited thus far in the
buffer.  A :wq or :x will quit vi when you are done and put back
into the mail editor (ed?), from which you can ^D to escape/
send, etc.

Also, a ~r (I think--maybe it's ~f--Can't remember) on a fresh
line with a file name, as in

~r myFile.txt

will insert/read in a file at that point.

Sorry to add to the traffic, but this might be of use to lro netters.

Fred Dushin

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: LULU has a new set of shoes...
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 94 7:21:10 PDT

 Here is a real rover owner... all this work just to get the rims scrached,
and dirty at the Colorado Rally. I am impressed.

Roy, one other question I need to ask, whiched leaked more, the
canvas water bag, or the radiator. And do they both operate on the same
theory....

Russ

> LULU is ready for tall cotton:
> WAS:     15" rims with bias, recaps.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 65 lines)]
> - 80 MGB                   - xx
> -------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: "Rostykus, John" <john@dspmail.Data-IO.COM>
Subject: Re: quick brake fluid question...
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 94 07:46:00 PDT

>        Speaking of brake fluid, I have this nice virgin hydraulic system
>        before me in the little earth pig.  Now to fill with LMA, or go
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>        Rgds,
>        Dixon

About 2 years ago, a couple of local club members went the silicon route 
after a complete brake overhaul, and are still VERY happy with the results. 
 Anyone else have experience with this?

John Rostykus
john@data-io.com

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From: Mark V Grieshaber <mvgrie@shute.monsanto.com>
Subject: Re: Movie Alert!
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 94 10:11:09 CDT

Jan Fisk said:

> I'm still upset that Blockbuster does not carry "The Gods Must be Crazy"!!!

Odd, I rented it from Blockbuster here in St. Louis back in January or February.

Mark
mvgrie@shute.monsanto.com

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From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Holy Rovers
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT)

Getting back to the topic of celebrity Rovers, I was
watching CNN the other night and they were reporting a
Pope tour to Africa (I think).  Anyway, the Pope-mobile 
that they showed was a white 110 pickup with the bullet
proof Pope-enclosure on the back.  I don't know if this
counts since he isn't driving the thing, but hey--it's 
the Pope!

Morgan Hannaford
U.C. Berkeley
'69 88"

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 13:32:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michel Rossey (EC)" <rossey@sunflash.eng.usf.edu>
Subject: mailing list

Dear Sir,

I am very interested in beeing part of your mailing list.  I do not own a 
Land Rover, I own a Toyota, but always admired The LR and maby one day I 
will be able to afford one.  
                                                   Thank you Mike
                                             rossey@suntan.eng.usf.edu

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:45:21 -0700
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: The Man Who Would Be Mechanic

At the Portland meet,on Sunday, many of the Land-Rover owners were off 
enjoying the off-road course most of the day.  I was stuck at my swap-meet 
space most of the day and did not even get over to watch.  I had our 
Land-Rover in the swap space, buried behind a pile of parts.  Due to the 
level of interest in the Rover (none of which has yet yielded a sale), I was 
reluctant to remove the beast from its pen.  Eventually, though, Bennett (my 
son) persuaded me to extricate the dog from the kennel and let him do the 
course. 

After a while, Bennett came walking back, looking forlorn.  He said the 
Rover had died for no apparent reason, just as he was about to attack a 
hill; it would not restart.  I went, with Bennett, to the dead Rover to see 
what I could do.  I couldn't start it either but noticed that the fuel gauge 
read "empty."  This was surprising, as I didn't think that we had done that 
much driving.  Nonetheless, this, I concluded was the problem.  So we just 
hooked up the towbar behind the pickup and headed out. We later put in some 
petrol and tried to restart the engine; it still would not start.

When we got home, I started going through routine tests and was puzzled as 
to what was the problem.  It acted as though the timing was all fouled up.  
After checking the basics and finding that it was getting fuel, was 
correctly timed, that the points and plugs were correctly gapped and clean, 
and that there was spark at the plugs, I feared the worst.  Got to be the 
valve timing; the timing chain has skipped a cog or two.  DREAD.

Bennett asked if I had checked the plug wires to see if they were in the 
right places.  I said no, I had considered that but, if no one had messed 
with them and it ran before, how could that be a possibility?  He said what 
about that guy who was trying to help him get it started?  What?  Yeah, the 
guy who said he was a mechanic but didn't seem like one (driving late-model 
Range Rover) WAS fiddling with the plug wires.  No shit?  I looked and sure 
enough they were thoroughly scrambled!!  Got them into their rightful 
places; the engine started right up!  Huzzah!!

So who was this "mechanic"?  We saw a preview for an action movie the other 
night and Bennett said there's the guy who tried to help me with the 
Land-Rover! We appreciate his efforts to help (really) but maybe he needs a 
little more coaching before trying out for another "mechanic" role.

Hell, made the trip more interesting and no harm done.  Good that this 
episode forced me to dust off my rusty mechanic's skills.  Been too long.  
But that is going to change.  Bennett's taking two hours a day of advanced 
auto this year in high school and we are going to do lots of Rover projects.  

Maybe even tackle the Austin Champ soon.  By the way, for any of you who are 
curious about the Champ, the September issue of _Land-Rover World_ has an 
article supposedly comparing the Series I Land-Rover with its military 
rivals, namely the Champ and the Jeep MB.  Nice pictures but very minimal 
content.  Had hoped that LRW would have more beefy content than LRO (always 
a bit fluffy, I thought) but so far, I am not that impressed.  It's still 
early in the game, so will wait and see.
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[ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) L-Rs: 4-88" 1-80" + Austin Champ 4x4]
[ e-mail to: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net              Phone: (707) 485-7220 ]
[ Net-Rovers leave a trail of mud & oil on the information superhighway!  ]
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:53:21 +0800
From: William.Grouell@Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell)
Subject: wading plug

>      As for the wading plug.  I don't have one.  I've never had 
> one.  Until just before the trip willl Bill I'd never heard of 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> 1972 Land Rover SIII 88 that once moving can't stop (with out 
> dying.  Maybe I should rename it "shark")
  

  The wading plug is a standard US  pipe tread (NPT) as are all of the
transmission fill plugs. At least on my '64 SIIa. just go to the hardware
store and buy one. There is supposed to be a bracket* attached to one of
the studs at the bottom of the bell housing. It has a hole tapped to
store the plug in when it's not plugging the hole. These are most often
missing, thrown in the trash by some mechanic working to the standard repair
times, most likley. Locate or make one, it's a good idea, keeps the plug right
there where you need it.

  Anybody going to the All British Car Show in Palo Alto on Sun. 11th?

Regards, Bill G.

PS; I don't remember seeing this bracket* listed in RN or AB cats. They would
know about it if you asked. There is a picture of it in one of the service
manuals. I will give detail dimensions if requested.

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 12:31:27 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Hub ADVICE

The hubs with the twin bars are "Dualmatics" as I have them on mine.  At
last year's ABP meet, it scrounged *A BUNCH* of hub bits and pieces from
the parts dump truck.  Each shaft has a $.10 O-ring inside and that may be
the source of the leak (as mine is doing right now).  The O-ring is
available at any hardware store.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 12:30:58 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Rattles and Rumbling revisited

Joseph Broach writes:
>because its worse in 2wd/hubs locked than any other combunation.

Methinks it's the front prop shaft u-joints or sleeve.  The shaft on my 88
came without a Zerk fitting on the sleeve (the factory manual is quite
specific about over filling) with the idea that if you don't see a grease
nipple, you wont fill it.  Any way...mine eventually developed a bit of
play and was replace with a used unit.

Prop shafts can be disassembled...but pay particular attention to the fibre
(toothed) washer inside the retaining collar.  It is the *ONE* part that is
no longer available on this continent anywhere (ABP, RN, BR, etc.) at any
price.  If yours has torn, it can be carefully super-glued back together.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 12:31:34 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Quick brake fluid question...

Dixon writes:
>Speaking of brake fluid, I have this nice virgin hydraulic system before
>me in the little earth pig.  Now to fill with LMA or go for the silicon(e)
>stuff...

Go with the silicone...though expensive ($8 US) a pint, it's superior to
the Castrol glycerine-based stuff as it is not hygroscopic...it won't suck
moisture out of the air and all those mud bogs ya'll flog through.  This is
especially important if the vehicle sits up for the winter.  Silicone
retards rust/corrosion in the cylinders as well.  Other than the expense, a
better mousetrap.  Just be sure the system is absolutely clean.  I filled
my old (but cleaned) reservoir with 95% isopropyl alcohol and pumped it
through the lines (wheel cylinders were disassembled) then blew everything
clear with compressed air and rebuilt the master.  Rebuilt the entire brake
system (including the dual master) for less than $22...but the fluid cost
me $28!

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 14:07:58 -0400
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Land Rover Ads

Recently Jon Humphrey posted a note on a company specializing in old car ads. 
I responded expressing interest in Land Rover ads, specifically the ad that 
goes "At 60 MPH the only sound you can hear is the roar of the engine".  Well, 
I received that ad and more.  About 42 more (they send all the ads on approval 
- pay for what you keep + $2.90 postage and send back the rest).  At first I 
wanted to keep them all then realized the B+W ads were $2.00 each and the 5 or 
6 color ads were $3.00 each - that sure adds up.  I wound up keeping about a 
quarter of them including an ad that touts the usefulness of Land Rovers in 
bank robberys and other criminal activities.  Very amusing.  The best ads were 
the humorous American ads which are not included in the book "Advertising Land 
Rover".  Now I need to get some kind of binder to store them in.  Geez, this 
stuff sure is a sickness.

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

none

From: Bill McBride <jumpingfrog@delphi.com> 
Subject: Original Magazine Ads for Sale 
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:26 -0500 
 
We offer original magazine ads for vintage cars, trucks, etc. to you on 
approval. Here's how it works: you email us your specific wants (Example: 1965 
Imperial ads; 1937 Packard ads, 8cyl. only; Pontiac ads 1946-48, etc.) We send 
you a packet of original ads from Life, POst, Car&Driver, Sports Illustrated, 
etc. that meet your needs. Ads are priced $3.00/color page; 2.00/ black- 
and-white page.  Postage is $2.90 per shipment, U.S.A.; extra for 
international shipments. On receipt of our packet, you select the ads you 
want, return the ones you don't along with a check or moneyorder or Visa or 
Mastercard # & expiration date for the value of the ads you keep. We've been 
offering this service to the Old Car hobby since 1976 but this is our first 
adventure on Internet. Hope it works. We ask that returns be made within three 
weeks of our mailing date. We need your postal address as all shipments are 
made via Priority Mail for speed and safety.  Please: no requests for lists of 
ads we have for sale. Our stock of over 175,000 ads makes list-making 
impossible. We will, however, accept your list of ads you already have and 
send you only ones you don't have listed. By the way, Corvette ads are not 
sold on approval; we send a catalog once a year; prices run $8.00/color page 
and $5.00/black & white page for Corvette ads only. Let's hear from you-all 
about your ad needs from 1899-present. Best, McBride Auto Ads, 585 Prospect 
Avenue, West Hartford CT 06105. 

none
 

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: James B Russell <jrussell@netcom.com>
Subject: Portland, etc.

Made it to Portland with a scare when the lead came off the ignition 
coil, one ripped up tire (dunno how that happened), and a stop just south 
of Ashland to replace the rocker arm cover gasket which was leaking, oh, 
maybe a quart every 150 miles or so.  Now, in Seattle, the handle for the 
right door latch broke (temporary fix with super glue).  So far, so good.

Portland was great.  Did anyone come up with a final count?  All I can 
say is that my Land-Rover hasn't seen so many of its own kind since it 
left the factory some 28 or so years ago.  Wish I could make it to the 
meet in California this weekend but I won't be back down there in time.

Just voted for the group name but my choice isn't listed.  I rather like 
land-rover-owners@team.net, the alternative to lro@team.net (isn't it?).  
Net Rovers isn't too bad.  I can see the t-shirt now, Net Rovers (and in 
somewhat smaller print) land-rover-owners@team.net.  Oh well...

Having been forced to the digest version of the list because netcom is
having mail problems, I'm still not sure I like it since it makes it a bit
more akward but I will stick with this 'till netcom gets their act
together and then probably try to get back to the real time version of the
list. 

                  Jim Russell   ====   jrussell@netcom.com
                         (Seattle -- San Francisco)            

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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Subject: Speaking of Hubs...
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 13:56:35 -0500 (CDT)

Speaking of hubs:

I have qty=2 Fairy locking hubs of which one has the
inner cluster dog-thing broken.  I can get this part
from RN, but it costs about $65.  Tough to rationalize.

So, anyone out there in NET-land:
  1.  Have one Fairy hub they would sell me.
  2.  Have some Fairy hub parts they would sell me --
      I could get more specific on the part.
  3.  Have only one Fairy hub and want to buy mine.

The bad thing is that I bought the Fairy hub rebuild 
kit ($7est) long ago and feel somewhat committed on
this course of action.  (so no Fairy flame-ing needed).

If so, communicate with me in private and we can make
a deal...
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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
 
         "...you are what you drive..."
 
- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU, aka Experimental)  - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)                   - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                               - xx
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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 14:58:35 -0400
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Rubbers For Bill & Ben

Hi!

Ben and I need a couple of rubbers.  No, not the glow in the dark extra 
ribbed kind, but the kind that envelop the distributor and keep the water 
out.  ABP used to sell a kit with a distributor cover, coil cover, and spark 
plug covers for $12 but no longer stocks them.  Rover's North said they don't 
carry them but to use a bead of silicone around the base of the cap to keep 
the water out (a useful idea).  Dixon was kind enough to check the Merseyside 
catalog for me and came up dry also (at least dryer than Ben and I this 
weekend).  If anyone has any leads/prices we'd really appreciate it.  We both 
are responsible off-roaders and need those rubbers to practice safe wading.

Thanks.

Bill 

maloney@wings.attmail.com 

(Mr. Denis, from the looks of the photos of you with the hood up after the 
water hole at the reservoir run at the ABP ralley a few years ago, I KNOW 
that you didn't use a rubber)

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:33:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Clutch, so far no luck

The clutch will require some real muscle to get it loose...try 2nd or 3rd 
with the clutch pedal stuck down with a stick....kinda go out and *drive* 
the beast....foot to the floor up a hill has worked wonders for 
me..(actually,with the 109,I'm *always* foot to the floor.....)
the wading plug is the cheapest thing on the vehicle ....go to the hardware 
store and get an 1/8 inch pipe plug...presto! one wading plug! 29 cents.....

steve.....

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 17:11:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Rubbers For Bill & Ben

For those who want rubbers for the distributor and coil, surgical gloves
do a great job.  The five fingers pass the four coil wires and the centre
lead.  Condoms do well on the coil.  I actuall have the real kit now, but
I have run the other and it workks just fine.  Fact is, the real think is
a pin to get the wires through and into the cap.  On the rubber glove, you
cut the fingers the length of the coil tower and then a bit longer so you
can use the waxed nylon string used to tiewrap electrical wires.  If this
is not available, use nylon tiewraps available at Radio Shack etc.  Dave
VE4PN    That should be pain not pin--can't edit this thing :-)

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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:00:13 +1200
From: hugh@nezsdc.fujitsu.co.nz
Subject: Re: Thanks, Helper Springs and Movies

R. Pierce Reid writes:
>Finally... My add-a-leaf kits arrived last night and I will be installing them
>over the weekend.
...
>I'll let everyone know how the project goes parts ordered, etc.  This looks like
>an easy suspension modification.  I plan on picking up some film and
>photographing it, too, so I may pot together an Aluminum Workhorse tech piece.

I wonder what this will do to the vehicle roll over angle.
Do some tests and let us know eh?

Cheers,
Hugh.

(Just kidding about the tests.  Do you need the extra height for
better tyre clearance, in which case what tyres are you running?)

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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:56:37 +1200
From: hugh@nezsdc.fujitsu.co.nz
Subject: Re: Rattles and Rumbling revisited

>The shaft on my 88
>came without a Zerk fitting on the sleeve (the factory manual is quite
>specific about over filling)

Ooo, what does it say about over filling?  I was working on my prop shafts
not so long ago and just stuffed them both full o grease.

wonderingly,
Hugh

(The Haynes manual doesn't mention anything about it.  One of these days I
probably will invest in the factory manuals...)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 20:24:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: carb question

Kurt inquires...
 
> I now have a solex on my 62 IIa 88.  I'm not happy with the fuel
> consumption.  Has anyone heard of conversions to Rochesters?  Any
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> Any comments on performance, fuel consumption or potential
> problems with such a conversion?  
Rochester carb is (or was) a pretty common conversion. I put one on mine
because the zenith or whatever was on there made a much better doorstop than
a carb! I believe the Rochester you need is from about a mid 1960's Chevy
but you will need to re-jet it with a smaller jet - sorry, I don't really
know what size. There is a brass tag on the carb with the numbers 
"1013029"  "J7"  "30" stamped on it - for what it's worth.
The only problem you may run into is rigging the throttle linkage to work
right. I have three Rochesters.. one on the truck and two in the parts bin
and all three have differant linkage setups. 
You're supposed to get a little more power with the Rochester, or so I've
been told. On *good* days I got maybe 15 MPG but even on bad days it always
runs better than the previous carb did.
Good luck with it.
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 20:27:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: carb question

Subject : Tailgate
Has anyone tried the swing gate conversion Rovers North showed on page 6
of their winter 94 flyer?  I have the tailgate but I wondered if I bought
the hinges and latch if it would make a good unit.  I often like to keep
the hard top on just before it gets warm enough to use the canvas top, and
a swing gate would allow me to leave the top open.  I presently have the
delux station wagon door on mine.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 17:44:44 +0800
From: William.Grouell@Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell)
Subject: Re: Rattles and Rumbling revisited

> Ooo, what does it say about over filling?  I was working on my prop shafts
> not so long ago and just stuffed them both full o grease.
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> (The Haynes manual doesn't mention anything about it.  One of these days I
> probably will invest in the factory manuals...)
  Hitting a good bump in the road with the sliding spline section of the
drive shaft *packed* with grease could damage; the shaft, the diff, or the
transfer case. The shaft must get shorter when the axel goes up, but if the
space where the spline slides into is full of grease, there is a little hole
for the excess grease to escape, but a hard bump, the grease can't get out
quick enough, so... crunch.

R, bg

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 23:30:31 -0400
From: Andrew Steele <ad158@DAYTON.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject: Sweepstakes w/ Defender 90

Hello all,
I just opened my October edition of OUTSIDE magazine and on page 171 found the
River Wild Sweepstakes.  Mindyou, I never bother to waste the $0.29 to enter
these damn thing; but in this case....

"If you think you can handle a vacation on The Rive Wild, then take one" 
Universal Studios.  The River Wild Sweepstakes = grand prize: one 1994 Land
Rover Deender 90 in bright double AA yellow plus a 5 day Grand Canyon
whitewater rafting trip for two.  Sweepstakes open to residents of U.S. 18 yrs
or older.  

For a copy of official rules, send self-addressed stamped envelope to "The
River Wild" Rules, P.O. Box 56436,  Sherman Oaks CA 91413

Mail entries to PO BOx 6044, Sherman Oakes, CA 91413.

{It does'nt say if a blank card can be sent in rather than the card}

Drawing on 11/15/94.  This seems to be a promotion for Hign Seas Adventure on
the Discovery Channel, Sept 23-25 beginning at 8 p.m.
{I don't have cable so someone will have to post if they have any Rovers on
the show}

Standard disclaimer -- I don't have any relation to the above; except it's
contained in my copy of the magizine etc....

In case I don't win, I'm still looking to find a Diesel ?.  If you run across
one, please let me know.

Andrew/ Dayton Ohio  
87 RR and one mixed Grey Hound/Great Dane.

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Subject: clutch is free
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 22:42:04 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu>

     Well, I got my clutch freed up today.  But as with 
everything I feel like I took two steps forward and one step 
back.   When I went out to start the Rover for an another attempt 
to break the clutch free, I found that there was no resistance on 
the clutch peddle.  The master cylinder turned out to be empty 
(brand new brake cylinder!)  so i put in new fluid and bled the 
clutch.  Seem ok now, but we'll see what happens.  Maybe the 
slave cylinder is dying.
     So a set off by coasting down the driveway and into the 
street.  I got it into gear and onto a quite street.  Then I 
started sudden accelerations followed by slamming on the breaks 
while in first gear low, 4WD and the clutch peddle depressed.  
After the 3rd cycle, the engine reved and there was not increase 
in speed.  So when the rusted flywheel and pressure plate let go 
there was no bang or anything.  It was a smooth transition.  
Thanks to all for their suggestions.  I was almost read to tie 
the Rover to a tree and then take off.

Benjamin Smith
ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
1972 Land Rover SIII 88

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Subject: Land Rovers in the Movies
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 22:43:24 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu>

egarding Land Rovers in the movies:  "A Far Away Place"  ( 
Disney movie about 2 teen agers and a bushman who attempt to 
cross the Karhari Desert) has a number of Land Rovers in it.
     As for the Gods Must be Crazy II, the only cast member from 
the first movie was the bushman.  I don't recall any Land 
Rovers.  I found the first movie to be more entertaining.

Benjamin Smith
ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
1972 Land Rover SIII 88

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