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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Generator to alternator upgrade Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 9:27:44 BST My two pen'orth,for what its worth.Given reasonably "long" journeys, I would,personally,stick with the genny.For short trips the alternator wins,because of its suprior charging capability.The advantage of a genny is that it is almost infinitely repairable,and,in my view,*much* more reliable.The electronics in the alternator are liable to failure,and in ways which can cosr you a new battery through overcharging.The genny will simply cease to work.Its been my experience that replacing the electronics in an alternator lasts about a fortnight,if you're lucky,whereas I have revitalised a generator that looked as though it was fit for nothing but a doorstop.I must admit to a certain bias,however,since I am of the opinion that there is *no* plce for electronics of any sort in motor vehicles.This is an opinion shared by most mechanics I have spoken to. After all,manufacturers havent yet mastered simple *electrics* yet! Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Temp Gauges
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:49:35 BST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0 (LUT)]
Its perhaps worth realting this...
(Read relating)
I have never,until this weekend,got my water temp gauge to work.
It crept to the upper edge of the white "cold" marker,and stayed there.
Earthing the lead produced full scale dflection on the gauge,so that was
OK.I replaced the transmitter five years ago.No change.In desperation,I
bough a new thermostat,*another* transmitter,and two core plugs(more about
those in a mo').
On taking out the transmitter,and comparing it with the replacement,I
found that the replacement was longer than the one that I took out.
The threaded body was the same,but the cylindrical sensor bit below
it is a good half inch,rather than the bare quarter of the other.This
meant that the bulb was hidden in the iron of the head,and didnt stick
out into the water enough to get the full effect.Its possible that the
old snsor was for a petrol(mines deisel)but tis worth bearing in mind
if anyone has similar problems.Works fine,now.Anyone want a thermostat?
Has anyone any idea how to remove the front two core plugs on a 2.25
diesel,engine in situ?Even with the manifolds removed,and the things
in plain sight,I just dont seem to be able to work out any way of getting
them out.Advice would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Mike Rooth
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]From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney) Date: 11 Jul 94 23:35:56 GMT Subject: Cut Off Message & Other Stuff Dixon, Your message did arrive intact. I just thought there might be more. Vince (my neighbor with the IIA 88) and I made some progress over the weekend with his vehicle. He drained his gas tank and lots of nasty stuff came out. I decided to pull the inspection cover from under the RH seat and remove the sender so that we could look inside, because as he reached in the drain hole and felt around with his finger, he was finding a lot of crud. Once we got the sender off we looked inside with a flashlight and it was caked. My first thought was to spray gunk in the tank and finish up with a garden hose but Vince suggested that we use his power washer. I was expecting some $29.95 gadget, but he had a really nice $200 + high pressure unit, and he showed me how it could clean off concrete, with just cold water! Wow!. He went to work and really loosened the stuff up. When he finished there was only some fine residual stuff left, and we finished off with paper towels on a coathanger. We left the tank open to dry for a couple of days, then went to work bleeding his non-functioning clutch. We cleaned out the master cylinder reservoir then pumped a half a container of brake fluid through until it came out clear. the clutch works well now but we need to keep an eye on it because the reservoir was dry initially and the fluid had to go somewhere. On my 88 I replaced the brake servo check valve (the grommet on the old valve had split and no one sells just the grommet. So $22 and shipping cures the split grommet. I also replaced the fluid in my diff, main box & transfer and OD. I'm glad I bought a case of the stuff last time. Also there seemed to be oil around the base of the distributor, so I replaced the base gasket and used gasket sealer. I didn't replace the cork ring yet as I wanted to see if this did the trick. It didn't. Next chance I have I'll pull the distributor and replace the cork ring. Once we get Vince's 88 on the road, I'll put the whole story together for the newsletter. Bill maloney@wings.attmail.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Gidion's
From: ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it (Ludovico Magnocavallo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:48:00 +0100
WL> Ludovico,
WL> Can you help me find out if this company still exists, so that I can get
WL> some parts.
WL> Air-Camping
WL> Gidion's
WL> Milano (Italy)
WL> Via Archimede, 101
WL> tel 723.196
Hi William,
I could not sort out your e-mail address, so I'm sending this to the list
(sorry...)
The number you gave me is old, I've looked on the telephone directory, but
this place doesn't exist anymore.
Anyway, I have a friend with your same tent, I'm going to ask him where (if)
you can find parts.
I hope to have a reply for tonight/tomorrow.
Bye
Ludovico
P.S.-I could not send mail to eng.sun.com or Eng.Sun.COM, what is your host
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]From: llevitt@idcresearch.com Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:35:06 EST Subject: Re: Jory's burning rubber smell. > Jory writes: > I am occasionally smelling what seems like a burning rubber smell, > but I cannot find anything amiss. Anyone have any ideas? I stopped > several times and checked everything... none Sounds like bad gas to me. Must be the midwestern food... ;-) ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: llevitt@idcresearch.com Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:46:17 EST Subject: Re: there I go again John (who else?) writes: > TDI! TDI! TDI! John, from your phone number I can tell that you live in oft-cold New England. Any comments on how the LR tdi engine would fare in subzero temperatures? Better than other diesels? Any drawbacks? TIA, Lee ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: leefi@microsoft.com Subject: Defender 119 for sale (was: 300Tdi in the US?) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 07:50:44 Andrew Steele <ad158@Dayton.wright.edu> writes: ... | Now the tragedy, to afford a Defender 110, I would have to wait until | some used ones show up on the market. I would perfer a 90; but my dog | (Great Dane) I am sure would perfer the 110. and as it turns out, in the sunday Seattle Times had a US '93 Defender 110 for sale (not mine!). the vehicle had 12,000 miles on it, no price listed, phone number 1.206.827.6649. ps: the first person that gets the digest version of LRO to *work*, please speak up. thanks. __ Lee Fisher, (not a spokesperson for) Microsoft Corp., Redmond, WA, USA leefi@microsoft.com, +1.206.936.8621, 74750.776@compuserve.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 09:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "walter swain (wcswain@ucdavis.edu)" <dcn00067@chip.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Defender 119 for sale (was: 300Tdi in the US?) What is the address of the LRO digest? If I can find it, I may be able to get it to work. Walter Swain DAVIS, CA On Mon, 11 Jul 1994 leefi@microsoft.com wrote: > Andrew Steele <ad158@Dayton.wright.edu> writes: > ... [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)] > Lee Fisher, (not a spokesperson for) Microsoft Corp., Redmond, WA, USA > leefi@microsoft.com, +1.206.936.8621, 74750.776@compuserve.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: /G=Hui/S=Ben/OU2=IL02M/OU=ILBH/P=MOT/A=MOT/C=US/@email.mot.com Date: 11 Jul 94 12:15:00 -0600 Subject: ohhhh theee heattt does anyone of you vetran rover goers know of any remedy to dissipate the heat created by the exhaust under my feet. it has been unbearable the last couple of days since its gotten over 25 degrees. my truck is already topless, althought it helps it is still way too hot under there. i would also like to know what the normal opperating temp is in the city??? my truck gets in the middle of the n-h area and somtimes frightens me, should it get that hot? there doesn't seem to be a water leak and everything looks good so what could be bothering the cooling system. thermostat maybe???? one more thing i think the flex hose for the clutch slave needs replacing. every time i drive in the city and the truck gets hot i have some serious problems engaging into any gears as in can't get em into 1 2 and r i was told that maybe the flexhose is expanding due to the heat in the area??? any help would be appreciated. thx ben series 69 iia swb ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Windscreen problems....
From: ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it (Ludovico Magnocavallo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:38:00 +0100
I have spent all the afternoon trying to take the windscreen off
my 88. I followed the workshop manual, unscrewed all the nuts
and bolts that fix it to the roof and body, but I could not take
it off.
So I unbolted the roof structure, trying to build some play
between it and the windscreen, only to find that the previous
owner sealed the windscreen with TONS of silicone, glueing it
to the roof.
What can I do?
Burn the silicone? Do I risk any damage to the roof/windscreen?
Take off the roof and jump on the windscreen?
Help.....
Ludovico
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Subject: Gidion's
From: ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it (Ludovico Magnocavallo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:36:00 +0100
WL> Ludovico,
WL> Can you help me find out if this company still exists, so that I can get
WL> some parts.
WL> Air-Camping
WL> Gidion's
WL> Milano (Italy)
WL> Via Archimede, 101
WL> tel 723.196
Hi William,
I could not sort out your e-mail address, so I'm sending this to the list
(sorry...)
The number you gave me is old, I've looked on the telephone directory, but
this place doesn't exist anymore.
Anyway, I have a friend with your same tent, I'm going to ask him where (if)
you can find parts.
I hope to have a reply for tonight/tomorrow.
Bye
Ludovico
P.S.-I could not send mail to eng.sun.com or Eng.Sun.COM, what is your host
name? __________________________________
Ludovico Magnocavallo
ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it
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]Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:29:35 -0500 (CDT) From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA> Subject: Re: Generator to alternator upgrade Now is the time to go to the alternator. They will charge at idle while a generator needs some revs to get a charge on. If you own a winch, you really need an alternator. There are ones used in N.A. called Delcotron which have a built in regulator. They are the easiest to use. I have seen a number of alternators advertised which require only one wire to the battery. This would really make change over easy. Boat companies use this type quite often so try one in your area for a cheap one. I have changed my 64 over, using a bracket off a IIA on a II block. I drilled the hole normally used to hold the ong bolt for the generator and I used a grade 8 bolt to attach the unit. It is strong and it really works great. I hope you do the change, it is worth it. I run Ham Radio stuff in my vehicle and I really find it great. Dave VE4PN. ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:39:47 -0500 (CDT) From: David John Place <umplace@CC.UManitoba.CA> Subject: Re: Delivery Report (failure) for lro@com.straus.transfer (fwd) Core plugs. Drill, tap, put in a bolt, use a jimmy bar and it will pop out with a bit of work of course. I will look at my diesel block in the shed this evening and see if anything else will move it, but this is how we have done some V8s here and it works. Dave VE4PN ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Re: Re: Generator to alternator upgrade
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 9:14:19 EST
> My two pen'orth,for what its worth.Given reasonably "long" journeys,
> I would,personally,stick with the genny.For short trips the alternator
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> Cheers
> Mike Rooth
If I was you, I would go with the alternator, my alternator has only
let me down once, when every thing inside it was stuffed, and I mean every-
thing! The alternator I have got has an external regulator on it, so you
could probably wire it up to the one existing on you car. As for Mike, if
you are talking about the eletronics only lasting two weeks in an alternator,
I take it you are talking about a lucas Alternator, which just about every-one
I know told me to avoid, while I was looking at what to fit to my 2.25 desiel
(Alternator/generator), so I fitted the Bosch Alternator off my holden motor.
Now as for it being unreliable, my alternator lasted about two months less then
the Holden motor, which died through dust inhalation, which just shows how
mush shit they can put up with.
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Craig Murray 1955 Series 1 86"
mail: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au 2.25 desiel (Soon!)
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 17:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: James B Russell <jrussell@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Generator to alternator upgrade
I vote for the alternator. I recently changed my '66 IIA over to an
alternator and wonder why I didn't before. Actually, it was a tough
decision because I had nursed the first Lucas C40 through something like
ten years and it's replacement another seven. Alas, the third one
recently went out on me and I decided it was time not to have to worry if
I was stuck in traffic at night or wanted to add some electrical
accessory.
I went with the Lucas 16ACR because I wanted a minimum of hassles. That
way I knew that the bracket, alternator, and all the assorted bits would
fit my 2.25L. The only hassle was having to remove the frint engine
pulley to replace the bracket.
On the other hand, there are likely some very good alternator options --
the Lucas beats the 22 amps of the C40 but not by much and it is
expensive. In my case I didn't have the time nor inclination to mess
around with trying to get a bracket, etc., etc.
My gut feeling is that alternators are quite reliable.
By the way, I would add to the "is repairable" comment, "...and can
usually be fixed in the field enough to get you home."
Jim Russell ==== jrussell@netcom.com
(Seattle -- San Francisco)
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]Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:16:56 PDT From: Vance Chin <vance@xnet.ssl.Berkeley.Edu> Subject: British car meet in Hayward, California I just got a letter from British Pacific about a meet in the S.F. bay area. According to the Aluminum Workhorse this is supposed to just be a swap meet. The flier says that they will have a place for landrovers. I am thinking about going, but would hope that other landrovers (and their owners) would show up. Vance Chin Series III 88 P.S. please email if you are going. COMPLETE FLIER TEXT: THE BRITISH CAR MEET CAL STATE HAYWARD - JULY 17, 1994 This new event is run by our old friends from the Morris and Mini clubs (organizers of Palo Alto, on September 11th this year). The usual selection of fine (and somewhat less than pristine) British oil leakers will be on display, as well as parts vendors, food, and entertainment. Bring your Land Rover (any model, year, or condition!) and look for our booth. Cars will be allowed in at 10 am, and spectatros are admitted free. REGISTRATION: $15 per vehicle, and 'for sale' signs are permitted. Price includes pepople's choise awards and an event gift. Land Rovers will park in a special section, next to our booth . DIRECTIONS: From 280, 101, or 880, take Higghway 92 (San Mateo Bridge) east. A few blocks esast of the 880 you will find Harder Road. Turn right on Harder and follow it around past Mission Blvd. and onto the campus. Look for signs. INFO: 510-370-1956 or 310-392-6605 note from me: the directions are ok, but take a look at a map. For there are better ways to get there i.e. from SF and the valley. ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Spenny@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:31:52 EDT Subject: Re: ohhhh theee heattt Ben Writesx does anyone of you vetran rover goers know of any remedy to dissipate the heat created by the exhaust under my feet. it has been unbearable the last couple of days since its gotten over 25 degrees Rovers North offered a solution a while ago in one of their newsletters, cutting holes in the door skins, and installing vents. if you cant find it or dont have it i can send you a xerox of the article Spenny Spencer K. C. Norcross Spenny@aol.com Haverhill, Mass. USA ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== 1969 IIA SWB Bugeye - The Wayback Machine Land Rovers on the Information Superhighway! What will they think of next! ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Re: ohhhh theee heattt
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:50:01 EST
> does anyone of you vetran rover goers know of any remedy to dissipate the heat
> created by the exhaust under my feet. it has been unbearable the last couple of
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> area??? any help would be appreciated. thx
> ben series 69 iia swb
The series 1 had a heat shield which acted like a tropical roof, its just
a piece of sheet metal that is held away from the actual exhaust pipe.
Real heat is when you have a hole in your radiator, and it is about
40 degrees, and you need to have both heaters on and stop every five minutes
to let the motor cool down, while climbing out of a vally with climbs of up to
40-45 degrees, that is when the cabin gets real hot!
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Craig Murray 1955 Series 1 86"
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Subject: ohhhh theee heattt
From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:38:23 -0500
/G=Hui/S=Ben/OU2=IL02M/OU=ILBH/P=MOT/A=MOT/C=US/@email.mot.com writes:
> does anyone of you vetran rover goers know of any remedy to dissipate the he
> created by the exhaust under my feet. it has been unbearable the last couple
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> a water leak and everything looks good so what could be bothering the cooling
> system. thermostat maybe????
The Swamp Beast runs about 80c in city driving in Ottawa whhen the
ambient outside temperature is around 30c. In the woods on a hot
day, it is normal to see it sitting around 90c while idling before
a mud hole and awaiting the extraction of some poor unfortunate
before me. The interior temperature is something better not
related, but it does keep away the black flies and mosquitos...
It has never burned yet, and I don't see it doing so. At least up
here, the petrol engines run rather hot.
Rgds,
Dixon
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dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
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]From: stevensh@cuug.ab.ca (Stevens) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 23:26:21 MDT Subject: Nice to be back, but no LR for me yet. It's great to be back on this list, although it took a little longer than I thought to get plugged back in following my trip back to Calgary from Boston. Haven't got my .sig file reconstructed here yet, but hope to once again subject the list to my rough rendering of a Land Rover nose on. I have to say I was a little disappointed with the Land Rover content of my cross-Canada trip, seeing only one of Solihull's best between Beantown and Cowtown. That was a red 88" on the south side of the Trans-Canada, I think in Ontario. (Sorry I can't be more specific on the location, but I was taking a turn at navigator and had just woken from a nap.) That was it. One lone individual. However, I have seen a few since returning to Calgary. There is a big MG gathering here this week, the Gathering of the Faithful - West, in Kananaskis, and while I was out registering my '64 B I spotted a lovely, bright yellow 88" SW, belonging, I think, to one of the MG Car Club of Calgary people. I've seen another 88" driving by, but I always seem to be a block or two away when it goes by, and there's a 109" nearby. It's an unknown configuration to me (newbie LR fan that I am). Not a truck body, but not a station wagon either. It has a full-length hardtop body on the rear, with what look like a couple of afterthought windows in each side. Is this common? I can get more details if anyone's interested. Until next time, cheers. -- Henry Stevens (ex: hstevens@mgb.tiac.net) stevensh@cuug.ab.ca ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu> Subject: Re: Windscreen problems.... Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 23:36:44 -0600 (MDT) Ludovico scribe, < I have spent all the afternoon trying to take the windscreen off < my 88. I followed the workshop manual, unscrewed all the nuts [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] < What can I do? < Burn the silicone? Do I risk any damage to the roof/windscreen? < Take off the roof and jump on the windscreen? Taking off the windscreen, but not the roof? Not sure I'm picturing this correctly... but anyway... Assuming you have only unbolted the roof at the windscreen, go ahead and unbolt the rest of the roof. Then lift the roof from the rear. If the silicone still won't yield, prop the rear of the roof up as far as it will go without actually bending any metal. Then chisel into the silicone. I had the same previous owner experience, but perhaps not so generous with the gunk. The chisel easily separated roof from windscreen with no damage to either. Then you should be able to do whatever else you are trying to do with the windshield. If the windshield has not been moved in ages, the rubber seal at the base has probably petrified and will stick a bit before you can bend the windshield forward. You will most likely need to replace that seal if you don't want water dribbling in your lap. Ciao! T. F. Mills tomills@du.edu University of Denver Library 2150 E. Evans Ave. Denver CO 80208 USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 940712 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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