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1 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 11 | Re: Jon's Steering Relay |
2 | "R. Pierce Reid" [70004. | 15 | The Living Daylights |
3 | Russell Burns [burns@cis | 17 | Re: Famous rover owners |
4 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 14 | Re: The Living Daylights |
5 | Jon Humphrey [jh5r+@andr | 37 | Re: Jon's Steering Relay |
6 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 15 | Re: Dormobiles |
7 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 24 | Re: lro & military Land Rovers |
8 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 34 | [not specified] |
9 | dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on | 23 | [not specified] |
10 | dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on | 26 | [not specified] |
11 | Harry Greenspun [hgreens | 17 | High-wattage reverse lights, gear oil |
12 | "Russell G. Dushin" [dus | 21 | Re: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oil |
13 | "thomas r. coron" [tcoro | 14 | anybody out there??? |
14 | hiner@mail.utexas.edu (G | 23 | That popping, semi-backfiring sound |
15 | Paul Nash [paul@tantrum. | 32 | [not specified] |
16 | "The X Window System | 21 | Re: That popping, semi-backfiring sound |
17 | Jon Humphrey [jh5r+@andr | 23 | Re: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oil |
18 | Morgan Hannaford [morgan | 28 | Re: OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP (fwd) |
19 | "Barry Dudley" [DUDLEY@g | 34 | MY FIRST TIME REALLY STUCK IN A LR |
20 | maloney@wings.attmail.co | 44 | Jon's Steering Relay |
21 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 17 | [not specified] |
22 | "Russell G. Dushin" [dus | 47 | Re: That popping, semi-backfiring sound |
23 | mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne | 13 | Intro with Anecdote(s) |
24 | mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne | 19 | OHV Parks and Trips |
25 | mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne | 50 | OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP |
26 | mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne | 26 | Land Rovers |
27 | mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne | 27 | Land-Rovers (still) |
28 | S|ren Vels Christensen [ | 34 | Re: Intro with Anecdote(s) |
29 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 32 | Re: That popping, semi-backfiring sound |
30 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 26 | Re: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oi |
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Jon's Steering Relay Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 13:51:27 GMT I offer this with a certain degree of trepidation,but..... Is it at all possible that a PO has had the steering relay off,and replaced it upside down? Dont shoota da gun.. Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 28 Oct 94 08:38:00 EDT From: "R. Pierce Reid" <70004.4011@compuserve.com> Subject: The Living Daylights Ian: There is also a 110 Defender "Converted" to look like a Russian GAZ jeep in one of the scenes. As memory serves, "Bond" Prachutes in the Land Rover/Gaz out the back of a C130, lands on the highway, smashes through a stone wall and says "I know a great restaurant in Kurachi." Regards, R. P. Reid ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com> Subject: Re: Famous rover owners Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 8:13:05 PDT j> > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Elizabeth Windsor (et al) - Range Rovers, dicoveries and Defenders > (numbers?) > Queen Elizabeth - A Bronze Green 110 Defender (manual) According to my Mom, I have some releatives across the pond who retired from landrover. One of their functions was to insure the Queens Range Rover was up to snuff. Russ ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Living Daylights Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 13:56:29 GMT > Ian: > There is also a 110 Defender "Converted" to look like a Russian GAZ jeep in one [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)] > Regards, > R. P. Reid Sounds like the OVLR.*No* obstacle allowed to stand between them and the pub.... Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 11:40:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: Jon's Steering Relay Mike suggests: >I offer this with a certain degree of trepidation,but..... >Is it at all possible that a PO has had the steering relay >off,and replaced it upside down? >Dont shoota da gun.. >Mike Rooth Mike, thanks for the suggestion, but by the way the relay is constructed putting it in upside down would be impossible. The way the main housing is cast the two mounting bolts can only be inserted if it is installed to line up with the mounting brackets. This is correct on my truck. It seems to be binding up internaly. Some one has had the thing apart before, so probably I will end up having to tear it apart and put it back together with all the correct parts. It presently is missing the top retainer gasket, and from what I can tell it's also missing the oil seal at the top. Don't know what else? WAIT--STOP I just thought of something, maybe without the gasket it is drawing the top retainer down too tight, causing it to bind. I'm sure going to try that. SO it looks like another Saturday and Sunday are dedicated to Land Rover Renewal but then I love it. It keeps me off the streets or chasing immoral women, but only till next week. PS Don't tell Di. Thanks a lot Jon PPS Bill, I checked that too, The boss on the top drivers side. It is not a plug It is a solid casting. I'll figure this out if it kills me. ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:23:06 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: Dormobiles My only comment is don't worry about the appearance. Paint is cheap, transmissions, engines, and frames aren't. A vehicle that's been prettied up, should have the guts to match. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:23:00 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: lro & military Land Rovers I don't subscribe to LRW (yet), but I do enjoy the "Overland" articles in LRO. I'm not very technical, so a magazine full of "here's how you rebuild this doo-hickey" articles wouldn't be too interesting to me. I don't mind them, but what would *really* interest me is articles on neat ways people have set-up or modified their land rovers. As for the military, I like the photos, but I can't get too interested in the military; I'm one of those San Francisco ultra-liberals who thinks Barney is actually Rush Limbaugh in drag. Sorry. Mind you, as long as the military is using Rovers, especially modified ones, I think there should be plenty of coverage. (Heck send him over here -- our military seems to think they're still at war with someone.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Picking on Land Rovers Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:42:09 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil> > The original question is how usable is a Land Rover on the road and is it > suited for taking long trips. SO far I'm the only one saying they are usable > on long trips, and even usable on the road. Let's see. My SIII 88 and I have travel quite a bit around the coutry. I've driven it from NJ to Pasadena, CA (2700 miles for the nonUS folks) or Pasadena to NJ 7 times, taking about 3.5 days each trip. I've taken it from Pasadena to Salt Lake City and back (to ski at Alta) and to Colorado and back (skiing Keystone, Arapahoe Basin, etc) because I'd rather drive the Rover in the snow than be in the backseat when some yahoo from California is trying drive on snow in his Camaro with racing tires. (Luckily I wasn't *stupid* enough to drive with him. Also, I know that there are a lot of California folks that can drive in snow, I haven't run into to many of them.) So I think that they are fine road vehicles. The only grip is that the 88 has only enough space for two people and their cargo (and parts, tools, etc.) I've done 4, but two of them we small frosh. If you carry two jerry cans and stick to 55 mph (and the engine is running well) you can go 300 to 400 miles between gass stations. So all in all, I think they are fine for long road trips. If you want to have creature comforts like a stereo, get a powerful one. Remember, I'm silly enough to be driving every weekend down to Pasadena and back (150 miles each way). Benjamin Smith bens@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil 1972 SIII 88 (saving up to get a 109) ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Hi all and a bumper Question From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:12:27 -0500 LANDROVER@delphi.com writes: > Can't say that I ever heard of using the front bumper as a water container > but it sounds like a neet idea - it certainly is "roveresque"! Hmmm, never seen water done. I have seen the bumper replaced with a 1/4" walled steel tube and the tube used as a hydraulic fluid resevoir. An interesting idea. Rgds, PS. Yeah the Koenigs are heavy, far to heavy... -- dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers Nepean, Ontario, Canada | 1016 Normandy Crescent, Nepean (OVLR's InterNet site) | Ontario, Canada, K2C 0L4 ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re:Fuel consumption From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:23:46 -0500 "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> writes: > diesel US$ 0.76/litre > unleaded regular (93-95) " 0.97/litre > unleaded super (98) " 1.06/litre > leaded super (99) " 1.12/litre The numbers in the brackets I presume are the octane levels. Is this the R+M/2 octane level? If so, you have some pretty potent stuff compared to, this particular part of, Canada. Unleaded super is 92 octane here. Sunoco has their "Ultra" at 94, but at a significant premium. 98 or 99 has not been seen for decades, (almost) Rgds, -- dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers Nepean, Ontario, Canada | 1016 Normandy Crescent, Nepean (OVLR's InterNet site) | Ontario, Canada, K2C 0L4 ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Harry Greenspun <hgreensp@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> Subject: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oil Now that the flaming has subsided regarding us yuppie-mudfearing-testosterone deficient-greaseless-mechanic hiring RR/D90/Disco owners, I think it's safe to post a question or two. I've been tempted to replace the standard reverse lights on my Disco for higher wattage ones. However, the manual has a generic warning about replacing any bulb with a brighter one. Has anyone done this? Second, question: any recs for synthetic 90W? I've seen Mobil 1 75W90. Thanks. Harry Greenspun 94 Discovery "Finally got a new one, now I need an old one." ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> Subject: Re: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oil Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 14:45:24 EDT > Now that the flaming has subsided regarding us > yuppie-mudfearing-testosterone deficient-greaseless-mechanic hiring [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > for higher wattage ones. However, the manual has a generic warning about > replacing any bulb with a brighter one. Has anyone done this? ......oh, yeah, I forgot about that......all you RR/D90/Disco owners have those wimpy reverse lights that illuminate the trees you are about to back into (or maybe just the mercedes in your driveway)......whilst we *real (wo)men* have mastered the "drive by feel" approach to backing up in the bush......and should we get a new dent, well, we just don't give a...... blah,blah,blah, rd/nigel ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "thomas r. coron" <tcoron@s850.mwc.edu> Subject: anybody out there??? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 15:26:44 EDT Is it just me, or is there a problem with the list? Is it my breath?? Something I said?? Sorry. Tom Tom Coron tcoron@s850.mwc.edu King George, Va. '66' IIA 88 RHD ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:26:18 -0600 From: hiner@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Hiner) Subject: That popping, semi-backfiring sound Petrol 2.25 liter - Weber carb- Not that I'm sure if this is any big deal or not - but when I come off the gas and I'm going at a good clip there is a lot of what sounds like backfiring going on at the rear end. Not quite as loud really but a lot of burbling. Is this normal? It seems that it has been that way for a long time. Is the carb set up wrong? And one more thing - what is the best way to fix (I'm crossing my fingers here that this is not true) a leaking gas tank. I haven't pinned it down but there might be some very small preforation on the front side somewhere above the brackets that bolt to the frame. Whatever it is it isn't major. I checked the top of the tank and all seems to be well there. What about that two part epoxy plugger stuff (to plug it from the outside) ? Best- Greg ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:31:20 +0200 From: Paul Nash <paul@tantrum.frcs.alt.za> > From: "Barry Dudley" <DUDLEY@gate2.cc.unp.ac.za> > 2) Buy a water pipe (150 mm ID) which is galvanised, screw on > ends with taps and just weld on atttachments and bolt that to the > bumper. I'd be wary of putting too much weight in front. I recently broke 1 1/2 of my front springs in Zambia, and it wasn't pleasant :-(. This was with weight mostly in the back -- I didn't even have a spare on the nose! Another potential problem is that you could easily lose your water supply (or part thereof) if you hit anything. In a place like Botswana I'd rather loose a headlight than 30l of water. For what it's worth, I use 25l plastic containers (from the local co-op), which go on the roof when empty, or inside, behind the bulkhead, when full. They're easy to fill, easy to empty, can be put in the shade, etc. All in all, I'd just look for a second-hand bumper -- the rest sounds like _far_ too much work for too little gain. Rather put the time and effort into rebuilding the axles, stocking up on spares or making a roof-rack. After all that, enjoy the trip! It's the kind of thing that everyone should have an opportunity to do. Just don't forget the anti-malarial drugs (Lariam or nivaquine/paludrine, _NOT_ daraclor!). ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 15:50:39 EDT From: "The X Window System: A VMS for the 90s" <brandenberg@wrksys.enet.dec.com> Subject: Re: That popping, semi-backfiring sound >Not that I'm sure if this is any big deal or not - but when I come off the >gas and I'm going at a good clip there is a lot of what sounds like >backfiring going on at the rear end. Not quite as loud really but a lot of >burbling. Is this normal? It seems that it has been that way for a long >time. Is the carb set up wrong? There's no decel shutoff on the basic Weber carb (assuming 34ICH, here) so if you're moving at speed and let off the throttle you pull a very nice vacuum in the manifold which dumps plenty of fuel into the engine giving you a nice burbly, carbonaceous exhaust. If you're running it rich, it just gets worse. Deceleration shutoff valves were one of the first pollution control measures implemented for carburettors. To reduce the effect, use the clutch when you get off of the gas to allow the engine to drop to idle speed quickly. monty ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oil Russell, don't you know that it is enviromentaly unkind to throw gasoline on smouldering embers. You naughty chap. Tsk, Tsk, >> Now that the flaming has subsided regarding us >> yuppie-mudfearing-testosterone deficient-greaseless-mechanic hiring >> RR/D90/Disco owners, I think it's safe to post a question or two. >......oh, yeah, I forgot about that......all you RR/D90/Disco owners >have those wimpy reverse lights that illuminate the trees you are about [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >up in the bush......and should we get a new dent, well, we just don't >give a...... blah,blah, and more blah Have a nice fire later Jon ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP (fwd) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Forwarded message: >From bens@parcival.chinalake.navy.mil Fri Oct 28 11:39:06 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: parcival.chinalake.navy.mil: Host [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol Subject: Re: OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Oct 1994 20:00:33 PDT." Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 11:36:56 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil> > So, it looks as though a spring dirt fest is being tossed around > as a No.Cal. netters get together. Mendocino National Forest seems [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > reservations depending on how many vehicles are interested. Something > Give an e-mail if your interested- Tell give me hard dates and locations and I'll show up. If anyone wants to do some driving on the east side of the Rockies, give me a call Benjamin Smith Science Applications Internation Corp UNIX system support for China Lake Naval Air Weapons Center bens@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Barry Dudley" <DUDLEY@gate2.cc.unp.ac.za> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:36:19 +200 Subject: MY FIRST TIME REALLY STUCK IN A LR Hello netters, I took my two dogs in the LR for a walk along a local river, which had recently been drained and dredged. Parked the LR on what "appeared" dry sand next to the river and walked away to watch the sun set.... On my return found that it had sunk in a little, so engaged 4WD, put some sticks under the wheels and tried to drive her out. WRONG - did not work, wheels just spun round. Offers of assistance were turned down as i would just use the hi-lift, dig a little round the wheels, put logs under it and drive away. WRONG - It is now dark and call in a "4WD team" - dug out the wheels, got railway sleepers under them and a pull from a land cruiser but to no avail (did move 2M!). Finally - it has now been 7 hrs and we give in - call the AA who use a single truck to pull LR out. WRONG - called up a 2nd truck and with both finally got her out! Other than a very bruised EGO, a lighter wallet and lot's of mud everywhere no damage was done at all. WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THIS - Do not take any situation lightly -treat it as if you are on a CAMEL trip; do not try drive out until you are damm sure it will work or you dig your self in deeper and accept all offers of assistance! "Wiser at the end of a long day" Barry Dudley ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 07:36:15 -0400 From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney) Subject: Jon's Steering Relay Jon Writes: none Hey Bill, You were asking about the steering relay. Yea I did get the top arm loose, just as you said. I took out the 4 bolts that hold the top retaining plate. Then I checked each hole and "not one" was drilled or bored all the way through, they were all blind flat bottom threaded holes. So I cleaned up the sealing permatex or whatever that some one had used to try to make up for the missing gasket and oiled it as best I could. It worked pretty good but it's still binding up occasionaly. You aren't going to believe this but I think the temperature affects it. When it gets above 60 degrees it seems to bind more. Like in the morning when it's cold it is free as hell. I park it at work and go out at five and it's bound up again. I know you think I'm nuts but I've been mechanikin for 26.7325 years now and I ain't never seen nuttin lik dis. I'll live with it for awhile till it gets to be too much cause it's colder now and it's acting a lot looser. none Has anyone else found a relay where the top plate securing bolt holes were not drilled through? I have found that either all or at least the side holes were, but Jon is finding that they are all blind. My first thought is that the shaft thrust washer or bush is flush up against the holes, but I haven't rebuilt one myself. Oh, Jon's relay does not have the shaft drilled and tapped and he does keep his steering box and swivel housings full. Bill maloney@wings.attmail.com (I finally got a message with a usable return address) OOPS! Jon, does your relay have another screw in the side of the housing at the top where the raised boss is (LH-Drivers side)? Yes, I know, I didn't mention this the first time (and I didn't look at the Mid Atlantic Meet). I can't say I've ever laid eyes on one but I have seen it set up this way in the manual). Have a look if you brought it to work. Oh, did you try pulling the bottom bolt (LH Drivers side) to see if anything drains out? ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: I have moved Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:42:56 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil> Well, I have finally set up shop in California. For those of you who want to find me, my snailmail address is 269 E. Upjohn Ridgecrest, CA 93555 (619)-375-3011 -Benjamin Smith ---------------- Science Applications Internation Corporation bens@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil bens@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us 1972 Land Rover Series III 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> Subject: Re: That popping, semi-backfiring sound Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 18:08:20 EDT Greg Hiner asks: > Petrol 2.25 liter - Weber carb- > Not that I'm sure if this is any big deal or not - but when I come off the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] > burbling. Is this normal? It seems that it has been that way for a long > time. Is the carb set up wrong? Nigel doesn't actually backfire under these circumstances, but he does tend to gurgle a bit....a few misfires, actually. I attribute this to either carburation (a rochester I've yet to open), slop in the valve timing (although when I visited my timing chain awhile back all seemed tight), or distributor slop (even though at just off idle the timing marks seem *relatively* stable when viewed with a light). This problem (and my solution) are not at all unlike that which I have with my two stroke twin ('79 Yamaha RD400F, in pristine condition that only fell over once and has otherwise never been off two wheels except for when only riding on one by intention). It (no name nor gender) *hates* to run at constant speed or slow down-otherwise it bucks and sputters like all hell......so alls I do is keep the throttle open! > And one more thing - what is the best way to fix (I'm crossing my fingers > here that this is not true) a leaking gas tank. I haven't pinned it down [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > checked the top of the tank and all seems to be well there. What about that > two part epoxy plugger stuff (to plug it from the outside) ? The stuff you are referring to is "JB-weld". It is amazing stuff. I've repaired (or seen repaired) gastanks, radiators (I fixed a 12" blown seam in a radiator on a Dart I once had and nearly blew up), crankcases, cylinder heads (yes!-fixed the head on the '39 ford 9N ten plus years ago and it is still holding...granted it only sees about a 3:1 compression ratio), and more. Surely the more puritan members of this list may disagree, and tell you to remove the tank, wash it generously with mineral spirits, let it completely dry out in the hot sun (which you do still have down there), then have it welded (ie do the job *right*), but hey-you've only got the weekend and you'd like to enjoy it. Get some JB weld and schibe the thing. Then grab a cold frosty and go see "mr feel good". rd/nigel ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:15:21 -0700 From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: Intro with Anecdote(s) Hank Lapa wrote: > Don't Wander, Rove PURPOSEFULLY! none I say, if not wander, why rove? (But, of course, tread lightly...) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) Appraiser, R/W Agent, LR aficionado ] [ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:15:07 -0700 From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: OHV Parks and Trips Eric Cope writes: >Toss my hat into the ring for a springtime northern california Landrover >gaggle. We're located in Angels Camp, Ca. out in the Sierra foothills.... a [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] >Eric Cope................. '64 SWB Regular w/ 2 1/4 petrol > '67 LWB StationWagon w/ NADA 6-cyl Cool, who'da thunk someone from a bitchin' place like Angels Camp would come looking for four-wheeling spots in Mendocino NF? This is beginning to sound like Much Fun. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) Appraiser, R/W Agent, LR aficionado ] [ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:15:47 -0700 From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP Morgan Hannaford writes: >So, it looks as though a spring dirt fest is being tossed around >as a No.Cal. netters get together. Mendocino National Forest seems [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >me (Morgan H.). I'm sure other extended bay area folks will be >interested, even the "e-mail challenged". Yes, I think I can round up several here in Mendocino County, as well as John Kirn, Lynn Helm, Domingos Dias (Camel 110), and probably a few of the farther flung of the "sniveller" group (as Cap'n Camo, aka Gordon Kallio) likes to call 'em... Maybe, Morgan, you and I and a couple of other locals could go sooner and scout the route. I've been on parts of it but need to see some other parts and check out the trails which branch off into the boonies. I have heard that there is a particularly high-pucker-factor trail from Howard Lake to Anthony Peak which we should definitely check out. And we should run some of the trails at the off-road use area at Middle Creek. Interested? If I can't take my Rover, I could ride with you or one of the locals. >How about we shoot for March 1995. This will give time to tell people >not on the net, get trucks in tip-top shape, and maybe make some [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] >so vehicles could locate the party at any time over the weekend. >We can pick the actual date later on depending on individual schedules. Well, yeah, March would be great, as far as I am concerned, but if so, everyone would need to be equipped with adequate recovery gear (I promise to mount my new 12,000# winch) and be prepared for camping in heavy rain and/or snow (I like it). On the previous trip that I mentioned (with the snivellers), we got snowed on pretty thoroughly, at Plaskett Meadows (6,000 feet), on the 28th of May! It can happen. I loved it; not everyone did... Also a distinct possibility that many routes will not be open by March (although if like 1994, they probably would be). Hey, I don't mind "opening" a few... On the otherhand, Memorial Day weekend, when we had the other trip, conflicts with too many other events, so I would prefer sooner than that (that conflict was what mainly killed a repeat the next year). >I'm excited already! A nice change from parking the truck on the lawn >at a British car meet. Hear, hear! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) Appraiser, R/W Agent, LR aficionado ] [ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:16:00 -0700 From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: Land Rovers Keith, of Arkansas, writes; >My SO and I have been looking at jeeps. Living in Arkansas with all those >national forest roads and having our love for camping creates such insane [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)] >wandering about in the woods! And, it may be loud, uncomfortable, slow, etc. >But can it be any worse than a Baja Bug with a zero to 70 time of 50 seconds? About right; the acceleration of a Land-Rover 88, four-cylinder, has been compared semi-favorably with that of a loaded gravel truck. But you're right: It is a wonderful way to wander the woods. I have done a lot of wandering the woods in stock VWs, a "Baja" VW (1953), many different kinds of 4x4s, and in Land-Rovers beyond count. The only thing I'd take over an old Land-Rover is--maybe, only maybe--a new Land-Rover (U.S.-spec Defender 90, that is), although I wouldn't mind trying it, just once, in a Mercedes Unimog or in a Steyr-Daimler-Puch Pinzgauer... Sounds to me as if you have been smitten... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) Appraiser, R/W Agent, LR aficionado ] [ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:18:25 -0700 From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: Land-Rovers (still) Daryl Webb writes: >Like Granville its >Lurk-mode off for me to defend the honour of our beloved >Land-rover no less. Looks like TerriAnn needs all the help she can get! [ truncated by lro-digester (was 27 lines)] >think Mark's 4x4 (OZ) makes an adapter. (The address has been posted on >LRO@team.net, but I could find it if you have lots of time :-) >A Champ ?? You are a sick puppy arent you..... :-) Yes... I... am... >Go on TerriAnn throw Ray to the Crazy Canucks on LRO. Though for his sake >perhaps you'd better conceal his identity! She did, she did. Heh, heh... 8~{> I love Land-Rovers (a lot) but the old four-cylinder, leaf-sprung ones are not my choice for driving long distances, probably partly because She Who Must Be Obeyed would refuse to come... Hmmm, maybe they ARE a good choice... ;*> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) Appraiser, R/W Agent, LR aficionado ] [ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:34:43 +0200 (METDST) From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk> Subject: Re: Intro with Anecdote(s) Welcome Hank! (and hi netters). On Thu, 27 Oct 1994, Lapa, Hank wrote: [snip] > Anyway, up here in the DC area, a place that does sandblasting and > powder-coating for me told me a few years back that they had a L-R [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > you shouldn't be driving a Land-Rover (no offense indeed to the many > very fine ladies of fortitude who also own and drive the legend.) [schnipp] I vaguely remember a music video showing a 90" driving around and wading across a river. Also the camera "accidentally" caught the logo they put on the side of the grille nowadays. Could this be a Billy Joel video?? > Don't Wander, Rove PURPOSEFULLY! > With best regards, > Hank > * * * * * * * * * * * * * +----------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Soren Vels | 1976 sIII 109" 2.25 petrol | | velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk | "Lawrence of Arabia" | ((|||)) | Royal Danish Air Force | Dansk Land-Rover Klub no. 3564 | ((|||)) | Communications Specialist | DL-RK: Approx. 1000 members. | ((|||)) +----------------------------+--------------------------------+__((|||))______ ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: That popping, semi-backfiring sound Greg ponders.... > And one more thing - what is the best way to fix (I'm crossing my fingers > here that this is not true) a leaking gas tank. I haven't pinned it down > but there might be some very small preforation on the front side somewhere > above the brackets that bolt to the frame. Whatever it is it isn't major. Tell you what I've seen here in NY (the land of eternal rust). There is a outer "shell" around the lower half of the front, bottom and rear or the tank. It's a thicker metal than the tank, so I suppose it protects the underside from wayward rocks and tree stumps. Over time, moisture, dirt and what-have-you gets in between the shell and the tank and the resulting corrosion causes pinholes. If that is the case, short of seperating the tank from the shell, you probably can't fix it from the outside. However, you can get a goop that you pour inside the tank to seal it. The good stuff is a two-step process. The first step cleans the metal, the second step seals it up. You can get this stuff through J.C.Whitney. The only problem is that if you have any rust left, or if the corrosion continues, it will probably leak again. (Mine lasted about a year!) There are also companies that specialize in re-sealing fuel tanks. Try the yellow pages. Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: High-wattage reverse lights, gear oi Harry sez... > I've been tempted to replace the standard reverse lights on my Disco > for higher wattage ones. However, the manual has a generic warning about > replacing any bulb with a brighter one. Has anyone done this? The generic warning is probably due to: 1. The demon Joe Lucas -or- B. The fear of melting the plastic housings. :) As an alternative, you could check out your local Central Tractor (or whatever similar agricultural store) and pick up a tractor flood light. Mount the bugger up high on the back somewhere. Tons of light! Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941029 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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