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1 | Mr Ian Stuart [IAN@lab0. | 41 | Re: To Lead or Unlead |
2 | Mr Ian Stuart [IAN@lab0. | 82 | Famous rover owners |
3 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 28 | HRH visits The Colonies |
4 | Mr Ian Stuart [IAN@lab0. | 25 | Film: The Living Daylights |
5 | jimmyp@netcom.com (Jimmy | 23 | burago model |
6 | maloney@wings.attmail.co | 30 | Jon & Di in Pittsburgh |
7 | BwanaE@aol.com | 14 | OHV Parks and Trips |
8 | "Lapa, Hank" [hlapa@Zeus | 50 | Intro with Anecdote(s) |
9 | "Barry Dudley" [DUDLEY@g | 60 | Hi all and a bumper Question |
10 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 42 | Re:Fuel consumption |
11 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 54 | Re:To Lead or Unlead |
12 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 30 | Re:Fuel consumption |
13 | "W. Ray Gibbons" [gibbon | 44 | LR as prosthetic 2ndary sexual characteristic |
14 | "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak | 34 | Picking on Land Rovers |
15 | Jan Hilborn [jhilborn@mo | 46 | Re: Picking on Land Rovers |
16 | rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest. | 12 | Picking on Rovers |
17 | "Jurgen Klus" [PSJK@psy1 | 12 | DISCOVERY CUBBY BOX |
18 | Morgan Hannaford [morgan | 38 | OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP |
19 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 23 | Re: Hi all and a bumper Question |
From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 08:47:48 +0000 Subject: Re: To Lead or Unlead > might be interested in the latest findings of our ever > inane politicains and their even more incompetent "scientists". [ remove info about unleaded petrol ] (BTW: Unleaded contains benzine, causing leukimia. Leaded contains lead, which causes brain damage. Diesel, of course, carries the carcenagenic dust from everything else into your longs & also kills you :) [ remove Mikes Mad Rant ] The latest from the English (and I chose the name carefully) government is that a *3 year* study by an appointed committee has found that "the rise in cars is detrimental to the environment" (Mr Rooth! Stop that laughter!) The committee proposes (broadly): 1) The price of petrol should be doubled 2) The investment in new roads should be stopped 3) Public transport should be made cheaper, better and more frequent The government has taken the report and "will respond after a thoughtful and carefull revue". When asked how soon this response would be, the minister said that it would be a "considered and thoughtful response, thus not immediately" Don't you just love 'em....... ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/> #======================================================================# I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek. |Land Rover owners do Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain. | it in the mud. ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 09:37:17 +0000 Subject: Famous rover owners Here is the current list of famous people with Land Rover vehicles (or good connections with them) Please send and additions/corrections to Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Windsor (et al) - Range Rovers, dicoveries and Defenders (numbers?) Queen Elizabeth - A Bronze Green 110 Defender (manual) John Rhys Davies owns four and he says he couldn't be bothered with the new Discos or Range Rovers (they're "devoid of panache"). His fleet includes: a IIa 109 with roof-tent in Kenya, an ex-RAF '88 110, a 109 Luten-body workshop vehicle with Lincoln arc-welder soon to be a 130" and an indeterminate 109 with advanced frame cancer (a "project vehicle"). The latter three are at his residence on the Isle of Mann. Ross Perot - Several -- Series IIa's and III's Kevin Costner - a black 88 (I, II, III, hybrid?) Sylvester Stallone - 109 Robin Williams - 90 Defender, but used to drive an 88 before Mork Oprah Winfre (sp?) - Defender (90/110?) Sean Connery. Defender 90 at his estate in Costa Brava, Spain. Confirmation please? Anika Rice (UK TV personality) - RR based dune-buggy (UFS 475 Y?). This may belong to the TV company though. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman - Range Rover LWB Demi Moore and Bruce Willis - Range Rover LWB Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid - Range Rover LWB Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith - Range Rover LWB (Now split up? - who has the 'Rover?) Mel Gibson - Range Rover Michael Douglas - Range Rover Jane Fonda - Range Rover Emilio Estevez - Range Rover Patrick Swayze - Range Rover Jack Nicholson - Range Rover Stefanie Powers - Range Rover Michael J. Fox - Range Rover Rod Stewart - Range Rover Cher - Range Rover George Michael - Range Rover Barry Manilow - Range Rover Michael Jackson - Range Rover Rosanne Barr-Arnold - Range Rover Richard Branson - Range Rover (British Army Officer) Col. Hewitt - Range Rover Janet Jackson - Dicovery? (Gift from agent or someone) Sting - discovery ?Kath from EastEnders (UK)? - Range Rover <-- actually, it was her boyfriends. Robert Wagner - ? They Want... Ralph Lauren -- approached LRNA with the concept of a Ralph Lauren RR Chris Evert -- "Andy's [Mills] the art lover," says Chris. "I'd rather have a Range Rover than a $40,000 painting." ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/> #======================================================================# I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek. |Land Rover owners do Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain. | it in the mud. ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: HRH visits The Colonies Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:10:41 GMT Gentlemen,gentlemen,please.Cease this undignified squabbling! Hearken unto me.You're all due for a bitter disappointment. The lady in question positively *dislikes* the countryside. AND drives an Audi coupe.(Are Jon's ears *really* like that?) I should get 'em seen to,mate.As for Cavalrymen,Roy,I dont *quite* know how to break this gently,but.....she doesnt like horses,either. I'm sorry,chaps,strictly a city type this girl.You *may* just get a glance if seated in a LSE Range Rover,but dont hold your breath,you'll burst,like as not.Dont forget her Mother-in Law and family are keen users of the Solihull product,and they arent flavour of the month at present,I shouldnt think. Anyway,we saw her first,and we'd like her returned in good running order,please.None of this Wild Colonial Boy stuff.Try that on Fergie instead.She'd beat the lot of you at your own game! Dont worry about the Cav,Roy.Charles is Royal Navy.His mum owns it you know:-)Mind you,rumour has it his promotion prospects arent good at present........ Cheers Mike Rooth Pottering around emitting quantities of particulate emissions. In a word......Soot! ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 10:48:33 +0000 Subject: Film: The Living Daylights I watched this film again last weekend -- it has a few Rovers in it: In the openning scene, there is a 109 crossing the tarmac the first big chase/fight inolves a series III 88" (35 KA 42, I think) During the attack on the safe-house, there are a couple of 4-door rage rovers and finally, it looks like a LWB series (II, IIA or III) drives into the Russian air base (?) ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> Play -- <http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ian/> #======================================================================# I'm not a computing nerd, I'm a computing geek. |Land Rover owners do Geeks are much higher up the evolutionary chain. | it in the mud. ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:07:49 -0700 From: jimmyp@netcom.com (Jimmy Patrick) Subject: burago model > Last year I was in France and while in Rouen, I spotted a Range >Rover model at a model/train shop (the Minitrain Shop). It is made by >Burago of Italy at 1/25 scale (@ 9 in long). none I got this model at Hamley's in London just 2 weeks ago. I think it was =A35.99. They have lots of other great Land-rover toys in that shop. If anyone is looking for a particular model, that might still be available, I will have a look. Send any info about the model to me and i will make a shopping list. cheers jimmy Jimmy Patrick jimmyp@netcom.com work 0344-382114 jimmyp@rahul.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 08:20:19 -0400 From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney) Subject: Jon & Di in Pittsburgh Mike Rooth writes: (Are Jon's ears *really* like that?) I should get 'em seen to,mate. none Sorry Jon. I should have clarified. ...without the dorky hair AND ears. (Are Jon's ears *really* like that?) I should get 'em seen to,mate. As for Cavalrymen,Roy,I dont *quite* know how to break this gently,but.....she doesnt like horses,either. (Are Jon's ears *really* like that?) I should get 'em seen to,mate. How very unroyalty like of her. She could have learned something from Cathrine the Great. (Are Jon's ears *really* like that?) I should get 'em seen to,mate. None of this Wild Colonial Boy stuff.Try that on Fergie instead. She'd beat the lot of you at your own game! (Are Jon's ears *really* like that?) I should get 'em seen to,mate. Even Steve Denis??? More Baloney from Maloney maloney@wings.attmail.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: BwanaE@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 08:35:32 -0400 Subject: OHV Parks and Trips Morgan Hanniford: Toss my hat into the ring for a springtime northern california Landrover gaggle. We're located in Angels Camp, Ca. out in the Sierra foothills.... a Mendicino trip would be very close by. Keep us nor-cal netters posted. Eric Cope................. '64 SWB Regular w/ 2 1/4 petrol '67 LWB StationWagon w/ NADA 6-cyl ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 08:46:44 EST From: "Lapa, Hank" <hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com> Subject: Intro with Anecdote(s) All, My name is Hank Lapa, new to this list as of yesterday, living in Maryland and working in Virginia. I have owned a 1960 Series II (not IIA) 109", 2.25 petrol, LHD, Station Wagon Deluxe for about seven years, ever since finding it derelict and undrivable in a bad part of town, in Jacksonville, Florida. Originally, this car was owned by the Sheriff of Duval County, Florida, who apparently had organized a 4WD posse to chase moonshine runners back to the Georgia border. After some time, it was bought by a fellow who had in previous years driven them in Viet Nam, where he was under contract building airfields. His sons drove the old gal pretty hard, until it would drive no more, and then she sat for God knows how long (though still registered) with the evidence of frequent brake fluid (wrong stuff no doubt) refills showing in the olive drab paint covering the original poppy red. (The Sheriff had changed the color.) The prior owner towed it for me to the sleepy little town of Green Cove Springs, Florida, where a fellow supposedly had Land-Rover mechanical experience. As it turns out, the gent rebuilding my brakes and accomplishing other basic necessities used to run 'shine from Georgia down into Florida. Perhaps he'd seen the headlights of this same car many years prior! Anyway, up here in the DC area, a place that does sandblasting and powder-coating for me told me a few years back that they had a L-R frame in for treatment, the vehicle being done up for none other than one Billy Joel. I heard that he didn't keep it for long; but some might argue that if you're not man enough to keep Christy Brinkley, you shouldn't be driving a Land-Rover (no offense indeed to the many very fine ladies of fortitude who also own and drive the legend.) My beast wears "Historic" Maryland tags, "XH558," in honor of the world's last airworthy (until last year) Vulcan bomber, which also came off the line in 1960, for delivery to the RAF. That's it for now, and I'll endeavour to keep future postings light, interesting, pertinent, and shorter than this note. Don't Wander, Rove PURPOSEFULLY! With best regards, Hank * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Barry Dudley" <DUDLEY@gate2.cc.unp.ac.za> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 17:27:17 +200 Subject: Hi all and a bumper Question Hello all, I am from South Africa (PIETERMARITZBURG) and have a S111 1983 LWB SW with a ford 3l V6 engine which i intend using for a trans africa trip in mid 1995. At the moment i am learning how to service it, slowly equiping it with the basic's for off road travel and having lot's of fun doing things my old golf just could not do!! The bumper was cut short (for boating purposes it appears) and i would like to put a strong, long bumper on in place of this, and have water transport capacity combined. There are two ways mentioned to do this: 1) Buy a 2nd hand bumper, weld a plate behind it, and get it galvanised; OR 2) Buy a water pipe (150 mm ID) which is galvanised, screw on ends with taps and just weld on atttachments and bolt that to the bumper. l l l _____________________________ l --- bolt bolt--- l*l l*l l------------------------------------- --------------------------------------l top tap bottom tap * = weld Both cost about the same, with the water pipe being stronger and having more water capacity (30l compared to 18l) much heavier. The questions i have for the group are: Has anyone else ever done this either of these two options? What happens to the front springs with the extra weight? Does using a water pipe create more problems than it solves, as a round pipe rather than the more desired flat bumper? What length is advisable? I am currently thinking of 1.7M, so that there is total protection to the LR in the case of an accident. For the converted bumper I would use 2mm (as it just has to hold in water) but with the water pipe what thickness would be required for the joining metal between bumper and chassis? With the water pipe would it be better to have screw on ends or to weld it closed? Where would be the best place for the taps? I thought of putting them near the ends, but if one hits something (especially with the lower tap) it might not work as well, at the end of the pipe or actually in the pipe. In the latter case a screw on end would not work. Of course - is there a third better option I have not thought of? Any comments, suggestions and advice would be appeciated. Barry Dudley DUDLEY@MICR.UNP.AC.ZA ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 27 Oct 94 11:47:58 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Re:Fuel consumption Country: Germany (united and broke) In Germany, and in Europe in general, the price of fuel *as such* is quite cheap, actually. Britain even is a major oil exporting country. The problem in Europe is *taxes-taxes-taxes*. In Germany, taxes (a special automotive fuel tax + VAT) make up 75% of the price of fuel the consumer has to pay. The tax also varies according to the type of fuel (leaded, unleaded, diesel, super/premium), therefore fuel prices at the stations are totally artificial (or 'political', if you will) and in no way reflect the real cost of fuel. Prices can also differ up to 10% regionally, with a noticeable increase from the nort-west (cheapest) to the south-east (expensive). The tax is federal and the same everywhere. The overall average prices are diesel US$ 0.76/litre unleaded regular (93-95) " 0.97/litre unleaded super (98) " 1.06/litre leaded super (99) " 1.12/litre Multiply those prices with 3.78 and you4ve got US$ per US gall. (hold your breath...) If none other comes to mind, there4s one reason for you to exclaim 4God Bless America4. Most gas stations have online credit card or eurocheque-card readers installed by now, as few drivers always carry the amounts of cash needed for a fill-up! Another reason is security: The average gas station, at the end of a busy day, would have as much cash in the register as your local bank teller... Gas station robberies are on the increase - no wonder. (The station robs the motorists, the crooks rob the stations, the government robs'em all) Always thirsting for petrol, Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> LROC of Hessen ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 27 Oct 94 11:48:37 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Re:To Lead or Unlead > the aforementioned politicians and scientists remain *totally* > UNdamaged,since their is no eveidence that they had a brain in > the first place. ROFL !!! > <snip...snip..>. They can sort the bloody bottles into clear > and coloured themselves. ...<snip> We have three bottle containers standing on a roundabout down the street (clear, brown and green). Thursday mornings the 'recycling' van pulls up, lifts up the clear-glass container and empties the contents into the van's loadspace. Next the brown glass container is picked and - crash...shatter - emptied into the van on top of the clear glass, and then likewise with the green glass. Finally, the van drives out to the municipal rubbish compound and dumps the whole lot. > Now,ladies and gentlemen,it may be told.Unleaded petrol is *bad* > for you.Apparently the connection between brain damage and lead Watch out, the next step will be a tax increase on the unleaded to raise its price level, on grounds of 'taxing the environmentally harmful'. A similiar trick was pulled by the german government three years ago with _diesel_ in this case. To encourage consumers to buy (new) environment- friendly cars, fuel taxes were adjusted (upwards) to reflect the respective harmfulness for the environment: Leaded - very bad, highly taxed; unleaded, not-so-bad, much less taxed; diesel - excellent! non-toxic emissions, and only very little tax. In addition, new cars meeting certain low-emission requirements were granted a 2-year exemption from vehicle registration tax, and new diesels *automatically* fell into that category. It is, of course, *pure coincidence* that the very same year Mercedes had launched a new big diesel sedan, and that the emission values of that model matched the new tax law's requirements precisely to the second decimal digit (honi soit qui mal y pense). What followed was, obviously, a big run for diesels. Barely three years later, when private diesels made out a hefty 30% of all cars registered, the government suddenly came up with a brand-new expertise, blasting diesel emissions as the worst thing next to agent orange and mustard-gas, and a major cause of respiratory diseases and cancer. The vehicle tax on private (i.e. non-truck) diesels was subsequently *trippled* because obviously, people driving such obnoxious cars must be punished! You now have a situation where, unless you drive more than 30,000 miles a year, it is cheaper in Germany to maintain a Range Rover V8 than to drive a 90 TDi, inspite of the forbidding price of petrol and the much higher consumption of the V8. All this is of course *very* good for the environment... As far as I figure, "environment" in the mouth of politicians is simply a synonym for $$$MONEY$$$ (rip-U-off while-U-wait). Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re:Fuel consumption Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 17:09:35 GMT Stefan points out the German system of instant ripoff.We have the same thing(I wonder who first dreamed it up. Some newspaper recently worked out that the price of a gallon of jungle juice was about 39p a gallon (I think).Fuel tax goes on that,then VAT at 17.5% on the total,bringing it to over two quid a gallon. What amazes me is that the Chancellor of the Exchequer(motto, Whats Yours is Mine,Whats Mine's my Own),has the collosal stupidity to put up fuel prices(for environmental reasons,what else)and *then* to claim the increase is non-inflationery! >From which we gather that some method has been found,unknown to the general public,of running trucks,buses,farm machinery, and diesel locomotives on fresh air.Since,if that were so, breathing would be taxed at normal VAT rates,we are forced to conclude that he's just altered the statistics(again) to exclude transport costs. If there is a chemical engineer on the list,is it still true that Petroleum Spirit is the waste product you end up with at the end of the refining process,ie when everything else has been extracted from a given quantity of crude oil.'Cos if it *is*,they'd be in one hell of a mess if we didnt use the stuff wouldnt they? Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 12:03:09 -0600 From: "W. Ray Gibbons" <gibbons@northpole.med.uvm.edu> (by way of Subject: LR as prosthetic 2ndary sexual characteristic As posted on the British Car list . . . Oh, please, TeriAnn, don't throw me to the LR list. I have enough enemies on the Volvo list. When one is in the proper frame of mind, the chassis has just been greased, and selective deafness has been achieved during many miles at the wheel, I am sure the difference between a Land Rover and a Bentley is hardly noticable. I would like one, but not because it is an ideal highway cruiser. I am upfront about it--I would like one as an image builder. In my mind's eye... ******************************* Debra Winger fanned herself as she hung the laundry on the line. As she pinned up the last of the wash, a dusty, battered Land Rover turned into the drive. The throaty roar of its engine echoed from the side of the barn. It rattled to a halt, coughed, backfired, and died. A man emerged. He was sweaty and none too clean. Several Kodak instamatics hung from his ample neck. As he hobbled nearer, Debra thought, "His body seems soft, pale, wrinkled. Plump and insistent, even though he must be over 50. Well over 50! Look at him move...like a guernsey...no a holstein...no, no, that's not it, like a lynx, that's it...a pregnant middle-aged lynx...or maybe a MERCURY Lynx!" "I'm Raybert Kingibbons," the stranger intoned, in a voice that could lure doves from their cote, "may I take off my shirt? Dusty, battered Land Rovers don't have air conditioning, and my paramilitary shirt is sticking to my sagging pects." Debra struggled to catch her breath. She couldn't have said whether it was Kingibbons himself, the charismatic Land Rover, or exactly what, but she had never felt quite like this before... Ray Gibbons Dept. of Molecular Physiology & Biophysics Univ. of Vermont College of Medicine, Burlington, VT gibbons@northpole.med.uvm.edu (802) 656-8910 ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 11:54:21 -0700 From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com> Subject: Picking on Land Rovers Hi gang, while people are discussing the merrits of various Land Rover toys, and living fantacies on the land rover mail list, there is a thread going on the british car mail list you might find interesting. The original question is how usable is a Land Rover on the road and is it suited for taking long trips. SO far I'm the only one saying they are usable on long trips, and even usable on the road. The engines are quiet if the exhaust system is intact. It's worn gears & noisy tyres that create racket. Two postings are below. Please feel free to provide your expertiese ;*) british-cars@autox.team.net > Kendall Robinson asked about the useability of Land Rovers on the road. > Well, these guys are the people who parodied the Rolls "God this car's [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > I'd definatly drive it everywhere else. I think 10K is a bit steep, unless > it has been very well maintained/restored. > I might as well step in, having once driven a Land Rover several > miles. Several years ago, I learned that a friend was moving to CA and [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)] > I still think the Rover is nifty, and I'd like to have one, but older ones > sure aren't suited for long drives on the interstate. TeriAnn Wakeman Large format photographers look at the world twakeman@apple.com upside down and backwards LINK: TWAKEMAN 408-974-2344 TR3A - TS75519L, MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561 ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:41:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Jan Hilborn <jhilborn@moose.uvm.edu> Subject: Re: Picking on Land Rovers On Thu, 27 Oct 1994, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > The original question is how usable is a Land Rover on the road and is it suited > for taking long trips. SO far I'm the only one saying they are usable on long > trips, and even usable on the road. The engines are quiet if the exhaust system > is intact. It's worn gears & noisy tyres that create racket. Two postings are > below. Please feel free to provide your expertiese ;*) Hmmm, well I feel I have a little experience to add to this debate. Four years ago I drove my 1967 88' (full length canvas, 7.50x16 tyres, working overdrive, and good stereo) around the USA. I drove about 15,000 miles in about 6 weeks. I drove on interstate highways (keeping up with the main bit of traffic, although not racing the hot rods) and on back roads and on no roads at all. The truck held up quite well, I was comfortable (except for a blizzard in Montana when I didn't have my Canvas on tightly enough), and I really enjoyed the trip. So did my dog. Sure, sure, so that was a vacation and vacations are not a fair comparison to everyday, real life driving. When I came home to Vermont I took a job driving all around the west side of the state. I averaged 200 miles a day, 4-5 days a week and I did this job for nearly 4 years driving my Land Rover on Intersate highways, back roads, and no roads at all. Whenever Federales or University bigwigs came to visit our programs they were sent out on the road with me, in the Land Rover, to see the state. I never received any complaints about the ride. (they were probably terrified speechless and unable to voice a complaint...). Certainly Land Rovers are not for everyone. If you want to be buffered and insulated from the world; if you want to be totally unaware of what you are driving or even that you are driving; if you want to feel like you are at home on the couch watching a video of the world go by.... ...then buy a car. i've been driving a land rover for over 15 years and i like the damn things a lot. jan ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 15:18:56 MDT From: rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest.com ( ROY CALDWELL ) Subject: Picking on Rovers Jan, RIGHT ON! But blizzards are not normal weather in Montana. We still don't have snow down below and not much up in the mountains. Roy - Rovers in the Rockies - ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Jurgen Klus" <PSJK@psy1.ssn.flinders.edu.au> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:08:30 GMT-0930 Subject: DISCOVERY CUBBY BOX Why would anyone buy a cuby box? The spot it occupies is perfect for mounting a C.B. or UHF radio for communications between club vehicles. I also mount the remote head for my HF radio there. Running the cables is very easy to that point. Jurgen Klus Tel 618 201 2413 Fax 618 201 3877 When the going gets tough..the tough get Land Rover! ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: OFFICIALLY-UNOFFICIAL TRIP Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 20:00:33 -0700 (PDT) So, it looks as though a spring dirt fest is being tossed around as a No.Cal. netters get together. Mendocino National Forest seems to be an ideal area; lots of rural to semi-rural camping areas. So far we have interest from: Granville, Terry-Ann, Eric Cope and me (Morgan H.). I'm sure other extended bay area folks will be interested, even the "e-mail challenged". Looking at my handy-dandy Mendo-Nat-Forest map it looks as though, depending of the weather, many campground/day use/OHV use areas are open around March-April. My experience up there, I used to work in Covelo (don't be sorry), is that many dirt roads are shut down during winter to prevent erosion/people getting stuck. Also, considering the current state of Granville's and Terry-Ann's Land-Rovers we don't want big fix-it jobs to be rushed. How about we shoot for March 1995. This will give time to tell people not on the net, get trucks in tip-top shape, and maybe make some reservations depending on how many vehicles are interested. Something like a weekend would be nice (i.e. meet on Friday night/Sat. morning at a campground; drive around Saturday; tell tales and top up the 90wt. Saturday night; drive more Sunday; then drive home). CB's could be used so vehicles could locate the party at any time over the weekend. We can pick the actual date later on depending on individual schedules. I'm excited already! A nice change from parking the truck on the lawn at a British car meet. Give an e-mail if your interested- Morgan Hannaford U.C. Berzerkeley '69 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 23:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Hi all and a bumper Question Barry... Can't say that I ever heard of using the front bumper as a water container but it sounds like a neet idea - it certainly is "roveresque"! A lot of older trucks with the headlights in the radiator cowl were rigged to carry jerry cans on top of the bumper, flat up against the front wings. I'll let you do the weight conversions for 10 gallons vs 30l. As a comparison, lots of people run Koenig winches up front and it takes two men and a boy to lift one of those! I don't think the added weight will cause you any grief. For the spigots, I would worry about having the lower one out underneath, near the end of the tube/bumper. More to the middle would probably be safer. Good luck with it! Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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