Re: [lro] problems at start up

From: Jeff Bieler (mrbieler@earthlink.net)
Date: Sun Mar 02 2003 - 18:12:28 EST

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    Thanks.

    Jeff

    on 3/2/03 2:48 PM, Bob & Sue Bernard at bobnsueb@saber.net wrote:

    >
    > Jeff,
    > When you try to rotate the rotor, you will "usually feel a springiness in
    > one direction.This is the centrifugal advance moving.
    > When the weights fly out the distributor cam turns a bit to advance the
    > firing spot.
    >
    > Bob B
    >
    >
    > At 02:26 PM 3/2/2003, you wrote:
    >
    >> True, but when I apply suction, the advance works fine and springs back to
    >> it's original position. I'll look at it again though.
    >>
    >> Time to do some fiddling...
    >>
    >> Jeff
    >>
    >> on 3/2/03 2:08 PM, Bob & Sue Bernard at bobnsueb@saber.net wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>> OK, but don't the pertronix mount on the same plate as the points? Therefor
    >>> the centrifugal advance weights could still be stuck out keeping it too
    >>> advanced at idle.
    >>>
    >>> Bob B
    >>>
    >>> At 09:10 AM 3/2/2003, you wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I'll try backing off the timing. I run a Pertronix ignition.
    >>>>
    >>>> Jeff
    >>>>
    >>>> on 3/2/03 8:47 AM, Bob & Sue Bernard at bobnsueb@saber.net wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Hi,
    >>>>> I'd wonder if the timing is too advanced so that it tries to fire the
    >>>>> piston backward. This commonly feels like a weak battery.
    >>>>> The advanced weights can get stuck from lack of lubrication over the
    >> year,
    >>>>> because they are hidden under the points mounting plate.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Bob B
    >>>>>
    >>>>> At 08:25 AM 3/2/2003, you wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Lately, I've been experiencing an odd problem at start up.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> When I hit the starter button, the engine will turn over, slow, and then
    >>>>>> surge. Best way I can describe it. Similar to what it feels like to
    >> start
    >>>>>> the engine with the hand crank. Turns easy, gets harder as compression
    >>>>>> builds, and speeds up once you've gotten to the down stroke. Repeat.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> This only happens with the ignition on. The engine turns over without
    >>>>>> hesitation when I just hit the starter button with the ignition off (no
    >>>>>> spark). Based on that, I don't think it's starter related or due to
    >> a bad
    >>>>>> ground. I've got plenty of battery power.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Any thoughts? Other then wanting a bit of choke and gas first thing
    >> in the
    >>>>>> morning when it's cold (cold being a relative at 45o), the truck has
    >> never
    >>>>>> failed to start, even with this new symptom.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Jeff
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