Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #198 - 39 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: II Vs IIA Thermostate (Alan J. Richer)
   2. Re: Right v left (Phil Norris)
   3. Re: Rover Rovers (Jim Hall)
   4. Re: Right v left ([email-masked])
   5. Re: Anti-Burst door latches ([email-masked])
   6. Re: Wheel cylinder question ([email-masked])
   7. Re: Wheel cylinder question (Jeff Bieler)
   8. Cricket (Edit 2)
   9. Re: Anti-Burst door latches ([email-masked])
  10. Merry Land Rovermas (Lori Sickley)
  11. Re: Merry Land Rovermas (Alan J. Richer)
  12. Re: Cricket (Richard Joltes)
  13. Re: II Vs IIA Thermostate (Paul Quin)
  14. Re: Dormobile on Ebay (Mark Pilkington)
  15. Re: Merry Land Rovermas (Hope Peter)
  16. Re: Cricket (Mark Pilkington)
  17. Left handed pilots (James Wheat)
  18. Rover Rovers (Fixed) (John Karlsson)
  19. Re: Anti-Burst door latches (Russ Wilson)
  20. Re: Anti-Burst Door latches (Faure, Marin)
  21. Re: Rover Rovers (Brian Horner)
  22. Re: Rover Rovers (Rich Williams)
  23. Cricket (was Right v left) (Faure, Marin)
  24. Re: Rover Rovers (John Karlsson)
  25. power steering christmas wish! (Simon J. Harding)
  26. Re: Re: Pilots and Land Rovers (N Forbes)
  27. Re: Cricket (was Right v left) (Adrian Redmond)
  28. Re: power steering christmas wish! (Isaac Fain)
  29. Re: Where is the World in Series was Left/Right (Peter Ogilvie)
  30. Re: Where is the World in Series was Left/Right (Adrian Redmond)
  31. Re: Cricket (Phil Norris)
  32. Re: Cricket (Phil Norris)
  33. Re: typewriters (Smokey Briggs)
  34. Re: Where is the World in Series was Left/Right (Keith Tanner)
  35. Re: Cricket (M. Tompkins)
  36. Fraud. (William L Leacock)
  37. It's just not cricket! (William L Leacock)
  38. Cranfield Charity Auction - Last Weekend (drisk)
  39. Re: power steering christmas wish! (Winn Bearden)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 03:51:45 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] II Vs IIA Thermostate
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Paul Quin <[email-masked]> wrote:
> My engine is a Series II engine.  S/N date code
> indicates 1959.  It needs a
> new thermostat. 

If you want to use a later skirted thermostat you'll
need to change the two pieces of the thermostat
housing to the SIIa type. i had to do that on one of
Mr. C's early engines - it's not fifficult as the
parts swap right on.

The old bellows 'stat simply is NLA.

I have been told by my cohorts in the UK that the 2.5
'stat can be used but I have not done it myself.

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Message: 2
From: "Phil Norris" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Right v left
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:59:03 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm right-handed drive, a RHD rover on the proper side of the road, but bat
left-handed.  IE I stand w my left side towards the batter, holding bat
mainly with left, controling swing w right....
Happy Christmas and New Year to all....
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Date: 21 December 2001 00:21
Subject: Re: [lro] Right v left

>
>My God, Trevor, You said what I was thinking..................
>Merry Christmas
>
>Easton Trevor A wrote:
>
>>  Now you've really started a flame war. (Flak jacket on) As an expat from
>> the Land of Rover, I've been unable to understand how a country that
takes
>> the game of rounders and turns it into the most boring sport imaginable
can
>> then ask for an explanation of Cricket.
>>
>> Trevor"I'm seaching for a foxhole" Easton
>>
>> Merry Christmas to one and all
>> Have a Roverly time.
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 05:47:28 -0700
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Rover Rovers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I get one now, although I couldn't last night. 3 black dogs in a red and 
limestone rover.

Rich Williams wrote:
> 
> Link doesn't seem to get to a viable image???
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:54 PM
> Subject: [lro] Rover Rovers
> 
> >
> > The Rover Rovers are all ready for Christmas.  You can see them at:
> >
> >          http://users.oco.net/karlsson/
> >
> > Merry Christmas!
> >
> > John
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-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 4
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:28:52 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Right v left
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Now we have a real topic, batting left handed, Cricket.  Sometime you have a
>month or two, could you explain Cricket. 

I was beginning to feel left out of recent postings, not being a pilot and
right-handed to boot. But Cricket! There's a certain elegance about the rules
of cricket. If everybody understood the rules of cricket, the legal system
wouldn't be in such a bad state.

Talking of things we don't understand, how about the World Series? Where's
the rest of the world?

Ian Kelly (Papigno, Italy)
1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
"what kind of bad geographical planning is this"

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Message: 5
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:28:58 EST
Subject: Re: [LRO] Anti-Burst door latches
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have a late model Series IIA and replaced the hook and cup type door 
latches (that Alan so eloquently described - I read it, I did, I did) with 
the Series III types. I don't remember having to drill a hole for the lock 
though as the originals had the lock in the same place, so fitting was 
straightforward. For some reason, the driver's side door took the longest 
time to fit and line up. But once done, I felt much safer.

Ian Kelly (Papigno, Italy)
1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
"what kind of bad geographical planning is this"

>Read the rest of what I wrote, Nate - I described the
>latches you're talking about - they're the interim IIa
>types. They were phased out before the Series
>III...but later in the game than the monsters with the
>hooks (horrids things....).

>Geez...type my fingers to the bone and nobody reads
>it.....8*)

>          ajr

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Message: 6
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:29:00 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Wheel cylinder question
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 11/1/2001 6:46:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

>> When do you and the Rover next share the same zip code?
> 

Jeff,

Sorry, I've been having a hard time staying in the same zip code as my 
laundry, never mind the Land Rover, but I'm heading back this weekend for 
Christmas. Only for four days though. Just about gives me time to wash it and 
see if it will start as SWMBO has plans.........

I should be back at the end of January. Would love to meet up in L.A. and 
compare notes.

Cheers

Ian Kelly (Papigno, Italy)
1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
"what kind of bad geographical planning is this"

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:02:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Wheel cylinder question
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Will do.  Have a happy holiday.

We leave for Phoenix tomorrow to see my folks.

January sounds good.  We, a bunch of us local LR guys and gals, are going to
Truck Haven for the CORVA Poker Run on January 18~20.  Something to thing
about.  It's a good bunch of good people.

Jeff

on 12/21/01 5:29 AM, [email-masked] at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 11/1/2001 6:46:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [email-masked] writes:
> 
>>> When do you and the Rover next share the same zip code?
>> 
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Sorry, I've been having a hard time staying in the same zip code as my
> laundry, never mind the Land Rover, but I'm heading back this weekend for
> Christmas. Only for four days though. Just about gives me time to wash it and
> see if it will start as SWMBO has plans.........
> 
> I should be back at the end of January. Would love to meet up in L.A. and
> compare notes.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ian Kelly (Papigno, Italy)
> 1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
> "what kind of bad geographical planning is this"
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:16:10 +0100
From: Edit 2 <[email-masked]>
Organization: Channel 6 Television Denmark
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Cricket
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Having lived outside England for nearly 2 decades, I have completely
given up trying to explain even the basics of cricket to my European
neighbours, family and workmates. Believe me, for anyone born on
mainland Europe or in the US, this is a completely hopeless task.

Trying to explain that there are the great game involves 2 teams of
eleven, whereby only 2 compete against the other 11 at anyone time, and
that one man only has to run because the other one hit the ball is
difficult. That most of the time is spent getting the 11 men who are
fielding to move to the other side of the ground every few minutes is
also difficult. And describing the lBW rule - even to those Europeans
who can understand footballs offside rules is not even worth attempting.

And then theres the in and out business. That you have to be in before
you can be declared out, and that all those who are out can't be in,
unless they haven't been in and declared out, sort of serves to convince
our overseas cousins that we're all a few bricks short of a truckload.

The usual reply to any attempt to explain cricket to a foreigner is
"That's why you all drive on the wrong side of the road" or "Is that why
you drive that old jeep?

I have even tried to explain that the once all important standard of
measure for territorial distance - the chain - was based upon the length
of a cricket pitch. That doesn't win much sympathy either.

Most Europeans thing we still go round wearing bowler hats and carrying
umbrellas, crying "Jolly Good Show, Old Chap!". They perceive cricket as
a relic from the past which belongs with pounds shillings and pence,
quarts and ounces, five feet nine and seven sixteenths of an inch and a
firkin of ale. I guess the Brits are only understood through the eyes of
Inspectors Morse, Dalgliesh and Barnaby. Europeans think that Dickens is
a contemporary British writer, and that we still use steam trains and
speak in dialects.

Cricket is merely the ultimate symbol of British anarchia, followed
closly by my "jeep".

Bl**dy foreigners!

Adrian Redmond

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Message: 9
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:26:06 EST
Subject: Re: [LRO] Anti-Burst door latches
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 12/20/01 11:04:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> Read the rest of what I wrote, Nate - I described the
> latches you're talking about - they're the interim IIa
> types. They were phased out before the Series
> III...but later in the game than the monsters with the
> hooks (horrids things....).
> 
> Geez...type my fingers to the bone and nobody reads
> it.....8*)
> 

Under appreciated.  That's what it is.  I just re-read your note.  I 
completely skipped the NLA latch part. I gotta get more sleep.

Nate

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:33:26 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Merry Land Rovermas
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hope you all can view this properly *and* know what it is ; )
http://www.simplerthyme.com/pics/2001.html
Happy Holidays!

Lori in NE PA
http://www.simplerthyme.com/store/LR.html 

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:45:12 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Merry Land Rovermas
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Lori Sickley <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hope you all can view this properly *and* know what
> it is ; )

A snow-covered UFO landing strip?

        aj"8*)"r

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:59:34 -0500
From: Richard Joltes <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Adrian said:

[...]

> Most Europeans thing we still go round wearing bowler hats and carrying
> umbrellas, crying "Jolly Good Show, Old Chap!". They perceive cricket as
> a relic from the past which belongs with pounds shillings and pence,
> quarts and ounces, five feet nine and seven sixteenths of an inch and a
> firkin of ale. I guess the Brits are only understood through the eyes of
> Inspectors Morse, Dalgliesh and Barnaby. Europeans think that Dickens is
> a contemporary British writer, and that we still use steam trains and
> speak in dialects.

In all the time I lived in Old Blighty I saw precisely two men wearing
bowlers; one of these was a fellow who was either very well off (but 
then why was he on the Tube?) or a tremendous poseur--fully turned out
in a black suit, bowler, white ascot over black topcoat, gloves held
primly in one hand, chin tilted slightly up in a faintly regal manner
--yes, it made an impression since it was so unusual.  I heard exactly 
one bloke say 'cheerio' (though 'cheers' is an extremely common 
substitute for 'thanks') and saw zero examples of men wearing black 
socks with hold-ups, shorts, and carrying a 'brolly.  But the fake
Cockneys at the outdoor markets like to mess with the tourists' heads
by firing off rapid streams of rhyming slang, and there are others who 
trade on the 'British mystique' in similar fashion.  They're also
located close to tourist attractions for good reason.

On the other side, one American friend who was coming to visit said
she 'knew not to wear Nikes or any other kind of running shoe,' to 
which I said 'so why did I just buy a new pair at the store on Oxford
St?'--I've still no idea where she got this idea.  Another visitor
asked if it was proper to bow or curtsey when passing Buckingham
Palace (what? what???) and yet another asked if people stood to sing
'God Save the Queen' in formal restaurants (if they're particularly
stupid and quite drunk, perhaps).

> Cricket is merely the ultimate symbol of British anarchia, followed
> closly by my "jeep".

I ended up in a pub one evening, talking with an 18-year old bloke who
played on Wales' cricket team.  He gave me a quick explanation of the
game, which I still don't understand altogether, and then said that the
USA was probably going to be the new cricket powerhouse within a few
years...that our team (I didn't know we had one!) was very good and
improving all the time.
 
> Bl**dy foreigners!

Damn their eyes!

d "bloody foreigner" j
1974 SIII Airportable, 'Smudger'

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:07:34 -0800
From: Paul Quin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] II Vs IIA Thermostate
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks Alan,

I know someone in Vancouver who has a few bellows types to spare, but I
think that I may as well just upgrade to the latest technology ;-)

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>

>
> --- Paul Quin <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > My engine is a Series II engine.  S/N date code
> > indicates 1959.  It needs a
> > new thermostat.
>
> If you want to use a later skirted thermostat you'll
> need to change the two pieces of the thermostat
> housing to the SIIa type. i had to do that on one of
> Mr. C's early engines - it's not fifficult as the
> parts swap right on.
>
>
> The old bellows 'stat simply is NLA.
>
> I have been told by my cohorts in the UK that the 2.5
> 'stat can be used but I have not done it myself.

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:25:45 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Dormobile on Ebay
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Yes,
    That is mine.  It is a gem.  Bid to buy, as they say.......................

Kind regards,
Mark Pilkington

Brian Horner wrote:

> Incase you were not aware - there is a Dormobile for sale on Ebay.  Does
> anyone know anything about it? Looks like it is out near Sacramento.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=599446549
>
> Ciao!
>
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Message: 15
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Merry Land Rovermas
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:24:19 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

very cool photo lori.

Pete

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:40:56 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Adrain,
    That was very accurate and very amusing old bean. You forgot about an
"Over" being over when it's over, and the cucumber sandwiches in the
Pavillion with tea when it rains.
    We colonized most of the planet and taught them all cricket and now they
soundly beat us each year.  This is why Rounders was developed in America so
that no-one else plays it and the "World Series" is only in the USA (if that
is the Rounders game, or is the World Series, the modified Rugger game
called football with padding)
    To anyone not British, all of the above is gobbledegook.
The best.
Mark Pilkington.  (Abidextrous Brit, colonial, Ex-Pat and a Jolly good chap
to boot)

Edit 2 wrote:

> Having lived outside England for nearly 2 decades, I have completely
> given up trying to explain even the basics of cricket to my European
> neighbours, family and workmates. Believe me, for anyone born on
> mainland Europe or in the US, this is a completely hopeless task.
>
> Trying to explain that there are the great game involves 2 teams of
> eleven, whereby only 2 compete against the other 11 at anyone time, and
> that one man only has to run because the other one hit the ball is
> difficult. That most of the time is spent getting the 11 men who are
> fielding to move to the other side of the ground every few minutes is
> also difficult. And describing the lBW rule - even to those Europeans
> who can understand footballs offside rules is not even worth attempting.
>
> And then theres the in and out business. That you have to be in before
> you can be declared out, and that all those who are out can't be in,
> unless they haven't been in and declared out, sort of serves to convince
> our overseas cousins that we're all a few bricks short of a truckload.
>
> The usual reply to any attempt to explain cricket to a foreigner is
> "That's why you all drive on the wrong side of the road" or "Is that why
> you drive that old jeep?
>
> I have even tried to explain that the once all important standard of
> measure for territorial distance - the chain - was based upon the length
> of a cricket pitch. That doesn't win much sympathy either.
>
> Most Europeans thing we still go round wearing bowler hats and carrying
> umbrellas, crying "Jolly Good Show, Old Chap!". They perceive cricket as
> a relic from the past which belongs with pounds shillings and pence,
> quarts and ounces, five feet nine and seven sixteenths of an inch and a
> firkin of ale. I guess the Brits are only understood through the eyes of
> Inspectors Morse, Dalgliesh and Barnaby. Europeans think that Dickens is
> a contemporary British writer, and that we still use steam trains and
> speak in dialects.
>
> Cricket is merely the ultimate symbol of British anarchia, followed
> closly by my "jeep".
>
> Bl**dy foreigners!
>
> Adrian Redmond
>
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Message: 17
From: "James Wheat" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:54:52 -0800
Subject: [lro] Left handed pilots
Reply-To: [email-masked]

There is another consideration that has not been mentioned. Instructors
routinely fly from the right seat and will use right hand for the yoke, left
for power and flaps. Then switch to left seat with the opposite effect. I fly
my supercub with my right hand on the stick, and Cessna's with left hand on
the yoke. I really don't even think about it; its just like driving my RHD
Rover, you just seem to be able to do it.

Jim Wheat
1970 Dormobile
Piper Supercub on floats
1959 Morgan Plus 4

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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:19:07 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Rover Rovers (Fixed)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The Rover Rovers are fixed ... uh, er, probably not what you're thinking.

Now you can see them at:  http://users.oco.net/karlsson.

John

John Karlsson
956 Main Street
P.O. Box 1023
Hope Valley, RI  02832

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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:22:15 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: Russ Wilson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [LRO] Anti-Burst door latches
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Having established the desirabilaty of these bits (I've wanted them for
>years) here's the real question:  where can I get them cheaply enough not
>to go broke fitting 5 doors w/ em?  All the prices I've seen have made me
>decide that my IIA latches that actually work now better than ever (last
>roof re-fit must've been charmed) are all I need.
>
>bill
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-- 
Check with the U.K. parts houses that take in older rovers and break 
them for parts.  Blanchards is one that folks have had good luck with.

RW

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Message: 20
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Land Rover Mail Group'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:57:59 -0800
Subject: [lro] Re: Anti-Burst Door latches
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Can someone explain the difference between SII & SIII latches?  Is it a
>practical and reasonable safety upgrade to convert from the stock Series II
>stuff to the Series II parts?  Or do they really make a difference?

The newer "anti-burst" locks are better, partly because they
offer a higher level of protection from doors coming open 
unexpectedly, and they also make it easier to shut the door.
A co-worker broke the lock on the passenger door of 
my SIII a few years after I bought it.  The catch worked 
fine, but the locking mechanism was compromised to the 
point where I couldn't trust it.  I opted to replace it with 
an older-style catch and lock.  While the lock itself 
is certainly positive, with a bar swinging down to block
the handle from being lifted from the inside, it has two 
big disadvantages.  It cannot be unlocked from 
the inside, and you have to slam the door pretty hard 
to get the tongue or whatever you call it to slide over 
the door jamb part of the lock and secure the door.

The anti-burst catch as fitted to the SIII does not take 
much force to close it fully, and it can be unlocked from 
the inside with the little sliding tab.

The only drawback to the anti-burst latch I can think 
of is that the locking mechanism does not seem as 
strong as the very positive system used on the earlier 
latches.  While I've not examined the inside of an 
anti-burst latch, the opening mechanism can be 
forced past the locking mechanism if there is any 
fault with the latch at all.  This is what happened 
to my passenger door, and is a problem on my rear 
door if I don't "jiggle" it just right when I lock it.  
It may be that the problem can be solved with 
an adjustment, but I have never taken a 
latch mechanism apart to find out.

I have obtained a replacement SIII-type catch and 
lock from Rovers North as well as new barrels to 
retrofit the driver and rear doors so that all three 
doors will use the same key again.  Right now I 
have a third key for the old-style passenger door 
lock.  As I recall, the cost of the latch and new 
barrels was not all that high.  As my SIII came 
with anti-burst locks, I don't have to cut a hole 
in the passenger door for the replacement lock 
because there already is one.

_________________________________________
C. Marin Faure
(original owner)
1973 Land Rover Series III-88
1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:00:16 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Rover Rovers
From: Brian Horner <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Great shot - I love it!

Brian

On 12/20/01 8:54 PM, "John Karlsson" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> 
> The Rover Rovers are all ready for Christmas.  You can see them at:
> 
>        http://users.oco.net/karlsson/
> 
> Merry Christmas!
> 
> John
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Message: 22
From: "Rich Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Rover Rovers
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:04:19 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

As a fan of all dogs - this is a classic photo.

Good Show!

Rich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brian Horner <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] Rover Rovers

Great shot - I love it!

Brian

On 12/20/01 8:54 PM, "John Karlsson" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> 
> The Rover Rovers are all ready for Christmas.  You can see them at:
> 
>        http://users.oco.net/karlsson/
> 
> Merry Christmas!
> 
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Message: 23
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Land Rover Mail Group'" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:16:13 -0800
Subject: [lro] Cricket (was Right v left)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Right v left
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:30:51 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Sometime you have a 
month or two, could you explain Cricket.

I'm not going to explain the Cricket laws (they're 
called laws, not rules), because I'm not that familiar 
with all of them.  But I bought a book in London
a few years ago which is sort of a "cricket 
made easy" explanation of the game.  I 
think the title is something like 
"What in the World is a Googley?"
Anyway, having read some of this book, and 
having watched people playing cricket near 
some of the towns we've cruised by on our 
narrowboat holidays, I've come to the conclusion 
that cricket is a very enjoyable game to 
play.  While there is little relationship between it 
and baseball, the skills employed are similar.

I'm not sure watching a cricket game would be 
as enjoyable unless you were a player and 
could appreciate what was going on.  As to the 
length of the game, well, I used to run camera 
on some of the Seattle Mariners games back in 
1979 when they were a pretty miserable team.  
Occasionally, they would play an equally miserable 
team.  I recall one game between the Mariners and 
I think Houston.  If there were 500 fans in the Kingdome, 
I'd be surprised, and the game went for 15 or 16 innings.  
And each inning was like watching molasses flow uphill 
on a cold day.  I would take cricket over something 
like that any day.

But I will say that you have to have a fairly good 
understanding of the cricket laws, and there are 
a LOT of them, to understand the game.  You cannot 
figure out its basic objectives by simply watching it 
being played for awhile.
_________________________________________
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:43:05 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Rover Rovers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Jim,

Count them again!  There are four dogs.  Just couldn't get them all up at 
the same time.

John

At 07:47 AM 12/21/01, Jim Hall wrote:

>I get one now, although I couldn't last night. 3 black dogs in a red and
>limestone rover.
>
>Rich Williams wrote:
> >
> > Link doesn't seem to get to a viable image???
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:54 PM
> > Subject: [lro] Rover Rovers
> >
> > >
> > > The Rover Rovers are all ready for Christmas.  You can see them at:
> > >
> > >          http://users.oco.net/karlsson/
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas!
> > >
> > > John
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > [email-masked]
> > > http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>--
>Jim Hall
>1966 88" Elephant Chaser
>http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
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>with Jim." Mitch Stockdale
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Message: 25
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:39:50 -0800
Subject: [lro] power steering christmas wish!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Twas the night before Christmas and I, Timm Cooper and Steve Schuback and a
couple others are jonesing for some saginaw power steering boxes and pumps.
If anyone on list is willing to sell and ship, please provide me a price for
yours with shipping to 97204 (Portland, OR, USA).  If you have em, I'll take
as many as five, assuming a reasonable price.  If you know someone who has
one, please advise.  Leakers gladly accepted.  These units are  apparently
more plentiful in the east due to Scout II's dying of rust.  The sources
I've found have been overpriced or have fizzled or flaked out.  The yards
I've called or gone to have had none (notwithstanding their assurances on
the phone that they had one....).

If I don't reply soon, its because I'm out until the 27th or 8th.

If this has been on the list in the last week or so, sorry.  I havent been
reading the digests regularly.

Merry Christmas to all!

Simon

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Message: 26
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: Pilots and Land Rovers
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:05:21 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Marin said:
>Here's another one to ponder.  Most of the pilots I know,
>and almost all of the really good pilots I know, are
>left-handed.  1.  Why is that? and 2. Are the majority
>of Land Rover owners left-handed?

Well duh! You live on the left coast. Over here everyone is right-handed!!  
;-)

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 27
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:02:10 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <[email-masked]>
Organization: Channel 6 Television Denmark
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket (was Right v left)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I don't see why folks outisde the UK find cricket so hard to understand
- yes the rules may seem complicated - but most team games have
complicated rules. Cricket is really no harder to understand than - at
least conceptually - than baseball. The team which is batting must hit
the ball as far as they can, and when they do, then can run. Hitting and
running score points. The team that is not batting must try to prevent
the batting team from scoring points, both the scoring and the
preventing are visually obvious. So what's the problem?

And for spectator fun - it beats watching paint dry...

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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Message: 28
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:17:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Isaac Fain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] power steering christmas wish!
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Simon - you may try posting a message over on www.binderbulletin.org, or
possibly www.NWBinders.net.  There are parts sources on those two sites; I
could also can post over to a Scout email list if you'd like.  There are a fair
number of scouts running around in WA and parts appeared to be somewhat
plentiful when I was looking for them.  Boneyards proved to be the worst place
for IH parts hunting.  Most are sitting around in someone's garage, and
sometimes it takes a little finagling to go home with them.

 . . . just be sure to get a price from the seller before mentioning they're
for Rovers  - or it will go up instantly!

isaac fain
'91 RR "Gatsby"
(ex '80 IH Diesel Traveler)

--- "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Twas the night before Christmas and I, Timm Cooper and Steve Schuback and a
> couple others are jonesing for some saginaw power steering boxes and pumps.
> If anyone on list is willing to sell and ship, please provide me a price for
> yours with shipping to 97204 (Portland, OR, USA).  If you have em, I'll take
> as many as five, assuming a reasonable price.  If you know someone who has
> one, please advise.  Leakers gladly accepted.  These units are  apparently
> more plentiful in the east due to Scout II's dying of rust.  The sources
> I've found have been overpriced or have fizzled or flaked out.  The yards
> I've called or gone to have had none (notwithstanding their assurances on
> the phone that they had one....).
> 
> If I don't reply soon, its because I'm out until the 27th or 8th.
> 
> If this has been on the list in the last week or so, sorry.  I havent been
> reading the digests regularly.
> 
> Merry Christmas to all!
> 
> Simon
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Message: 29
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Where is the World in Series was Left/Right
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:21:52 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Baseball's only redeeming value was the fun of watching the grass grow on 
the Diamond.  All the covered stadiums ruined that exciting aspect of the 
sport unless you consider watching them vacuum the carpet.

Despite all our insularity, Baseball is no longer the World Series of the 
United States.  It now should be called the World Series of Central and 
North America, the Carribean and Japan.  Even though the teams are still 
overwhelmingly from US, the players increasingly come from outside our 
borders.

On a more philosophical not, should we consider the impending downsizing of 
Professional Baseball as an event of the same magnitude  as the Brit's 
giving up India.

Gas Mileage on my 2.5 cam, weber 32/36 carbed, 2 1/4 in the 109 is now up to 
15mpg.  Just about the same as before adding the cam and fiddling with the 
head.  Even more reason to make the upgrade for all you out there wondering 
what to do with the Christmas money and all that time on your hands.

Mele Kalikimaka
Peter O.

>From: [email-masked]
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: Re: [lro] Right v left
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:28:52 EST
>
>
> >Now we have a real topic, batting left handed, Cricket.  Sometime you 
>have a
> >month or two, could you explain Cricket.
>
>
>I was beginning to feel left out of recent postings, not being a pilot and
>right-handed to boot. But Cricket! There's a certain elegance about the 
>rules
>of cricket. If everybody understood the rules of cricket, the legal system
>wouldn't be in such a bad state.
>
>Talking of things we don't understand, how about the World Series? Where's
>the rest of the world?
>
>Ian Kelly (Papigno, Italy)
>1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
>"what kind of bad geographical planning is this"
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Message: 30
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:29:28 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <[email-masked]>
Organization: Channel 6 Television Denmark
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Where is the World in Series was Left/Right
Reply-To: [email-masked]

John Cleese once summed up the difference between us Brits and you Yanks
-

We speak English, you don't. Our head of state doesn't have to go down
on the carpet before her subjects. And when we host a world championship
we invite teams from other countries to participate.

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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Message: 31
From: "Phil Norris" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:00:23 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Naah, si'thi....wots rung wi'accents then, lad, eh?
(walks in with flat-capand donkey jacket, whippet in tow heading for a pint
of Boddies!)
BTW the most fanatical cricket enthusiasts these days seem to be folks from
the countries that were colonies at the turn of the century.  I recently
worked for a travel company that was amazingly cross-cultural, and it was
the indians, barbadians and the south-africans that were most passionate.
Most of the english lads were footy fans....
PhilN
-----Original Message-----
From: Edit 2 <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Date: 21 December 2001 14:16
Subject: [lro] Cricket

>
>Having lived outside England for nearly 2 decades, I have completely
>given up trying to explain even the basics of cricket to my European
>neighbours, family and workmates. Believe me, for anyone born on
>mainland Europe or in the US, this is a completely hopeless task.
>
>Trying to explain that there are the great game involves 2 teams of
>eleven, whereby only 2 compete against the other 11 at anyone time, and
>that one man only has to run because the other one hit the ball is
>difficult. That most of the time is spent getting the 11 men who are
>fielding to move to the other side of the ground every few minutes is
>also difficult. And describing the lBW rule - even to those Europeans
>who can understand footballs offside rules is not even worth attempting.
>
>And then theres the in and out business. That you have to be in before
>you can be declared out, and that all those who are out can't be in,
>unless they haven't been in and declared out, sort of serves to convince
>our overseas cousins that we're all a few bricks short of a truckload.
>
>The usual reply to any attempt to explain cricket to a foreigner is
>"That's why you all drive on the wrong side of the road" or "Is that why
>you drive that old jeep?
>
>I have even tried to explain that the once all important standard of
>measure for territorial distance - the chain - was based upon the length
>of a cricket pitch. That doesn't win much sympathy either.
>
>Most Europeans thing we still go round wearing bowler hats and carrying
>umbrellas, crying "Jolly Good Show, Old Chap!". They perceive cricket as
>a relic from the past which belongs with pounds shillings and pence,
>quarts and ounces, five feet nine and seven sixteenths of an inch and a
>firkin of ale. I guess the Brits are only understood through the eyes of
>Inspectors Morse, Dalgliesh and Barnaby. Europeans think that Dickens is
>a contemporary British writer, and that we still use steam trains and
>speak in dialects.
>
>Cricket is merely the ultimate symbol of British anarchia, followed
>closly by my "jeep".
>
>Bl**dy foreigners!
>
>Adrian Redmond
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Message: 32
From: "Phil Norris" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:03:00 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

good oh!!
PhilN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Date: 21 December 2001 16:40
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket

>
>Adrain,
>    That was very accurate and very amusing old bean. You forgot about an
>"Over" being over when it's over, and the cucumber sandwiches in the
>Pavillion with tea when it rains.
>    We colonized most of the planet and taught them all cricket and now
they
>soundly beat us each year.  This is why Rounders was developed in America
so
>that no-one else plays it and the "World Series" is only in the USA (if
that
>is the Rounders game, or is the World Series, the modified Rugger game
>called football with padding)
>    To anyone not British, all of the above is gobbledegook.
>The best.
>Mark Pilkington.  (Abidextrous Brit, colonial, Ex-Pat and a Jolly good chap
>to boot)
>
>Edit 2 wrote:
>
>> Having lived outside England for nearly 2 decades, I have completely
>> given up trying to explain even the basics of cricket to my European
>> neighbours, family and workmates. Believe me, for anyone born on
>> mainland Europe or in the US, this is a completely hopeless task.
>>
>> Trying to explain that there are the great game involves 2 teams of
>> eleven, whereby only 2 compete against the other 11 at anyone time, and
>> that one man only has to run because the other one hit the ball is
>> difficult. That most of the time is spent getting the 11 men who are
>> fielding to move to the other side of the ground every few minutes is
>> also difficult. And describing the lBW rule - even to those Europeans
>> who can understand footballs offside rules is not even worth attempting.
>>
>> And then theres the in and out business. That you have to be in before
>> you can be declared out, and that all those who are out can't be in,
>> unless they haven't been in and declared out, sort of serves to convince
>> our overseas cousins that we're all a few bricks short of a truckload.
>>
>> The usual reply to any attempt to explain cricket to a foreigner is
>> "That's why you all drive on the wrong side of the road" or "Is that why
>> you drive that old jeep?
>>
>> I have even tried to explain that the once all important standard of
>> measure for territorial distance - the chain - was based upon the length
>> of a cricket pitch. That doesn't win much sympathy either.
>>
>> Most Europeans thing we still go round wearing bowler hats and carrying
>> umbrellas, crying "Jolly Good Show, Old Chap!". They perceive cricket as
>> a relic from the past which belongs with pounds shillings and pence,
>> quarts and ounces, five feet nine and seven sixteenths of an inch and a
>> firkin of ale. I guess the Brits are only understood through the eyes of
>> Inspectors Morse, Dalgliesh and Barnaby. Europeans think that Dickens is
>> a contemporary British writer, and that we still use steam trains and
>> speak in dialects.
>>
>> Cricket is merely the ultimate symbol of British anarchia, followed
>> closly by my "jeep".
>>
>> Bl**dy foreigners!
>>
>> Adrian Redmond
>>
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Message: 33
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:57:46 -0600
Subject: Re: [lro] typewriters
From: Smokey Briggs <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks to all for the advice. I'll let you know how it turns out. BTW, at
the bottom of the pile of used typewriters was an unopened cardboard box.
Inside was a new-in-the-box Remington manual typewriter as shipped from the
factory to the local office supply in 1954. Kind of cool. In certain strange
dreams that I do not tell SWMBO about, I find a larger crate in a barn, and
inside.... Well, ya'll know what is inside.

Thanks and Merry Christmas everyone,

Smokey Briggs
Pecos, Texas

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Message: 34
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:59:43 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Where is the World in Series was Left/Right
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm assuming that everyone knows that the World Series is actually named 
after a newspaper?

I played on a cricket team whilst living in Australia. I still don't think 
I could explain LBW, but it's more fun to play with your friends than 
baseball is.

Keith

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Message: 35
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:35:12 -0500
From: "M. Tompkins" <[email-masked]>
Organization: M&M Stained Glass
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Cricket
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm a Yank that was stationed in England
for quite a few years or as I was described
by the blokes in my local "Over paid, over
sexed, over here!"
We set up a match against a local cricket
team. First leg on our base playing softball.
The Brits weren't too proficient with gloves
but would wear them to look the part and
throw them to the ground when a play
came their way. They carried the bats as
they ran to first base and in the end didn't
do that bad although they lost. The second
leg in their village at the local cricket ground.
We were in first and they took it easy on us.
It was hard to remember to carry the bat as
we ran. Most of us just tried to clobber the ball
for a six. Some didn't do that bad but in the end
we were all out. We all tried to take a turn at
bowling, and I think we were so awkward and
slow that it was hard for them to get into any
sort of rhythm. We did lose but it was so much
fun it was turned into an annual event.

Cheers,
Mike

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Message: 36
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:53:38 -0500
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Fraud.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Trevor writes _ Now you've really started a flame war. (Flak jacket on)
As an expat from
the Land of Rover, I've been unable to understand how a country that
takes
the game of rounders and turns it into the most boring sport imaginable
can
then ask for an explanation of Cricket. 

 And an English " schoolgirls"  game at that.  Doubleday was a fraud!

Regards
 Bill  (TIC) Leacock

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Message: 37
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:50:59 -0500
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] It's just not cricket!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Peter writes - Now we have a real topic, batting left handed, Cricket. 
Sometime you have a 
month or two, could you explain Cricket.  

 My TIC response-  Sorry, but I do not think the average colonist would
understand the game.  Cricket is a game for gentlemen!  and for
Yorkshiremen. (the two are not synonymous - that should stir up some
controversy amongst the English listers!)  Personally enjoyed playing it
, I qualified by place of birth, rather than parentage!.  It's my opinion
that it is, like most sports,  more fun playing than watching.  The names
of the fielding positions are particularly interesting, slip, silly mid
off etc.  I think there was a record made a lot of years ago by some
comedian trying to explain the game.  Which has nothing whatsoever to do
with land Rovers.

Regards  
Bill Leacock
Yorkshireman in exile!

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Message: 38
From: drisk <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:56:01 -0400
Subject: [lro] Cranfield Charity Auction - Last Weekend
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi

This is the last weekend of bidding in the Charity Auction benefitting John
Cranfield and his family!  Current great deals include (in US$):

$10  Mountain Equipment Co-Op Day Pack (NEW)
$19  Anniversary Edition Swiss Army Knife (NEW)
$38  Strong Arm 4.5" angle grinder (NEW)
$14  John Cranfield/Muddy Special Edition T-shirts
$104 4 Range Rover 3-spoke Alum Rims with Michelin Tires
$29  RRC Tailgate
$13  Disco running boards
$10  NOS Series Wiper Blades
$29  Wipac Headlight Buckets for Series Rover (NEW)
$12  SIII Speedo Cable (NEW)
$44  Spin-On Oil Filter Adaptors from Rocky Mountain
$38  New Metal Replacement Grille for Series III

There are also plenty of fantastic LR Collectibles and Paraphnalia are
available at low, low prices!  

The auction is available here:  
http://www.maritimerovers.org/auction/john.htm

Happy Bidding and Thanks!
Dave Risk 
for the Maritime Organization of Rover Enthusiasts

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Message: 39
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:54:04 -0500
From: Winn Bearden <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] power steering christmas wish!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I gave one that I was hoarding to Steve (dixie land rovers) for a Christmas
present just yesterday.  Call him, he might sell it.

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:

> Twas the night before Christmas and I, Timm Cooper and Steve Schuback and a
> couple others are jonesing for some saginaw power steering boxes and pumps.
> If anyone on list is willing to sell and ship, please provide me a price for
> yours with shipping to 97204 (Portland, OR, USA).  If you have em, I'll take
> as many as five, assuming a reasonable price.  If you know someone who has
> one, please advise.  Leakers gladly accepted.

--
Winn Bearden          19XX SIIa/SIII/RR 100" Hybrid
P.O. Box 464          2- 1967 NADA 109" SW (both in pieces)
Americus, GA 31709    1998 Disco LE7
                      1990 110 Tdi SW

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